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Yesterday Red Alliance announced that they will be joining the upcoming Winter War. They will team up with Solar, BL and Stainwagon, almost reforming the old Russian Coalition. Their focus will be the northern space that N3 holds making it harder for N3 to defend the old russian home.

The following announcement was sent out:

Translation:

Since October 31st, when big war begun many of you wondered “when RA will join the fight?”. I can congratulate you all – the time has come.

We all wanted to help to destroy empire called N3, this is our chance, finally! We can spill our rage and grudge on those who took our home from us, threw away 6 month of our efforts. We were worked hard on improving our fleet participation from 30 to 100. Time to use what we’ve got.

We are moving to Curse to hit Insmother/Wicked Creek/Scalding Pass. Our main targets will be DSP/INC.

Goal is to paralyze these regions, kill everything that moves. You can find out more about campaign from your directors and CEOs.

Main reason behind moving to Curse is that Geminate residents are not willing to attack N3. We cannot just sit in anomalies and watch how carnival passes us by.

So pack your bags, sharpen your knives, refill alcohol supplies! It will be hot winter!

-Bobmon

265 Comments

  1. GFY

    Woot!

    November 12, 2013 at 8:47 am Reply
    1. Lucy

      I think you mean “toot-toot”.. because here comes the Russian wreckingball :D
      Us non-russians in this coalition is just the naked disturbed girl clinging to that ball.

      November 12, 2013 at 8:51 am Reply
      1. N3 Fanbud

        Russians never managed to get something wrecked. Not in rl and not in eve. It’s a question about money. So Russians actually have no money. So this answers many questions, especially about who will win this shit.

        November 12, 2013 at 1:02 pm Reply
        1. Lucy

          Not sure what hole you just crawled out of there bud, but Russia probably have more money than most other countries. And by money i don’t mean a bottomless hole of debt like USA, who is printing/borrowing money like mad just to have their “dream” not becoming a nightmare just yet :p

          But GL with that old boring propaganda.. :p

          November 12, 2013 at 1:39 pm Reply
          1. N3 Fanbud

            U sir are an idiot. I don’t ever said money in rl. They have no money, In rl America is bankrupt, but they would spend their last bucks just for war. In case it comes to that. So. Ingame, N3 has tripped amount of money as all those Russian faggs together. And there is monthly more that’s being generated. So even if we could speculate about all this stuff, Russian entity’shave no chance to win the isk war. and even their numbers are mostly shit. If it comes to close fights, Russians won’t stand a chance, especially not in us an aut tz. Even if the renter empire might fall, there’s enough isk to fight ur asses back into the grave u where thrown in last year. Russians won’t stay long like they’re doing now.

            November 12, 2013 at 2:27 pm
          2. wekickamericanass

            u forget friend we had long time to gather isk,and most of us are old eve players

            remember DRF? we kicked your MM+pets ass back then too,now we come again

            nobody took down DRF we disbanded internaly,nobody will stop us now

            November 12, 2013 at 3:27 pm
          3. DRF lol

            You mean the DRF which was lead by PL and NC.?

            November 12, 2013 at 4:43 pm
          4. formerdrfmember

            PL was on contract for drf as far as i remember, NC. was one of the few english speaking DRF memebers,and were granted tribute for their service

            November 12, 2013 at 5:06 pm
          5. Lucy

            You mentioned both RL and EVE.. and since i, unlike you obviously, have no idea how much isk each person, corp and alliance in Stainwagon + friends have i can not comment on that.
            Who will win this war is anyone’s guess at this moment. There will be a lot of fighting, and that’s a win no matter what side you are on imo.

            And stop calling people faggs, it makes you look like a 12yo who is a few words short of being able to express hes anger :p

            November 12, 2013 at 3:55 pm
          6. This is a Fact Jack

            hard to lose a war when n3 runs away. at least nulli isnt using pos shields to hide its ishtar gang anymore.

            November 12, 2013 at 5:59 pm
          7. Sneaky SOB

            Russia has a failed economy that no one is willing to invest in because of the lack of a functioning judicial system (judges for hire) and endemic corruption. The only think keeping her from collapse is circa $100/bbl oil. The USA is heading for energy self sufficiency as early as 2018 and will be an energy exporter after that. As soon as Europe can tap into North american oil and gas they will abandon Putin (Ooops I meant Russia).

            Soon there will be an increase in Russian RMT players they need to get all the sov they can hold.

            November 12, 2013 at 2:37 pm
        2. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

          Except themselves

          November 13, 2013 at 12:04 pm Reply
      2. Washi Meisei

        Russian wrecking ball ROFL.
        The ONLY ones that could even be called that was Gypsy Band. Unfortunately Krom got too busy IRL and left. Then Gypsy Band disbanded.

        November 13, 2013 at 2:08 am Reply
  2. redisntrelevant anymore.

    Oh no hasbeenalliance is joining the fight, what ever shall we do With their fleets of 30men running around.

    November 12, 2013 at 9:06 am Reply
  3. RAfodder

    What system are they moving to? Those of us who would enjoy reintroducing ourselves to RA would like to know.

    November 12, 2013 at 9:10 am Reply
    1. Loot Fairy

      Everyone that’s moving to Curse has been moving to G-0 so…. take a wild guess

      November 12, 2013 at 10:42 am Reply
      1. Curse resident

        XX9-WV

        November 12, 2013 at 11:24 am Reply
    2. Curse resident

      they are moving to XX9-WV
      Gorgon Empire will support them
      +other russian-speaking curse residents like Darkside. will probably join sometimes for fun

      so you better be careful with ~introducing yourself~ :)

      November 12, 2013 at 11:24 am Reply
      1. Jaime Gomes

        xx9? ur shitting me? 1 titan jump away? fa-bu-lous!

        November 12, 2013 at 2:06 pm Reply
        1. Bring the Pain

          Roxor

          November 12, 2013 at 3:16 pm Reply
      2. Washi Meisei

        Darkside loves shooting RA. They did it when RA 1st ran to Curse after we evicted the back stabbers.

        November 13, 2013 at 2:09 am Reply
  4. N3 WarHQ

    OH NO! NOT RA! Now we are really doomed.

    November 12, 2013 at 9:12 am Reply
    1. Necromonger

      This attitude if what will be the downfall of N3/PL.
      PL shitting on their own ally’s like EMP.
      PL Shitting on Nulli calling them a bunch of baddy’s and retards.
      N3 trashtalking to anyone, known for backstabbing when the time is right.

      RA even tough one of the more ancient alliance’s out there and maybe not the force they once were are still very capable of forming fleets and posing a threat, specialy with all Russians combined.
      Maybe you guys should stop the hate among each other and create something called a coalition like the CFC, you know the CFC that Vince Draken wants to destroy.
      Gues we will never see that day as it might be the Russians that destroy you.

      No1 can tell, but looking in your direction it seems you got angry Russians and a little bit off CFC circling around you.
      Your renting empire is about to collapse and with it a large chunk of your income.

      Sure you are to elite to give a shit about anything a lesser enity says, but when your time is up its up.
      And PL just drop you guys like a rotten sack of meat when shit hits the fan.

      Sad as i always tought the final battle would be CFC versus the rest of Eve.
      But to much elitist attitude is destroying you from within.

      November 12, 2013 at 10:20 am Reply
      1. Nobody

        Interesting read necro. After being in the CFC for a year and a half what you actually detailed very well is how life in the CFC is if you are not a Goon. Correct me if I’m wrong but I haven’t heard of any N3 member alliances being replaced because they where not to the main house masters liking. Please do keep spewing your propaganda about though as you are really getting somewhere with the hearts and minds bro.

        November 12, 2013 at 12:00 pm Reply
        1. Necromonger

          No need for propaganda sir, just ask your line members how many times PL and NC.dot trashtalk about those “lesser’ entity’s within your coalition.
          BoB version 5.6 ?
          Seems you already absorbed most of the old BoB corps so it doesnt suprise me one bit.

          What is more damaging then spitting on your coalition members in local for all to read and see.
          There is no propaganda needed here buddy, everyone can see how PL and NCdot lash out to EMP / Nulli.

          And i never said CFC doesnt have problems or doesnt lash out to each other, but we do it on our own coms and not local chat.
          And sometimes its even hilarious on coms as we know we are all bad at Eve and often the joke is on our own.
          Thats a big diffrence there m8.

          November 12, 2013 at 2:16 pm Reply
          1. This is a Fact Jack

            Nulli will be the reason why n3 loses all of their space.

            November 12, 2013 at 5:57 pm
          2. Simon pieman

            It amazes me how often BoB comes up, they are a old alliance that died years ago, yet every big hitter is compared to them, its all rather gay you know.

            November 12, 2013 at 7:24 pm
          3. Chris

            TBH, I’ve even seen the non-NCdot N3 alliances shit on nulli for being bad.

            November 12, 2013 at 7:35 pm
          4. Jaime Gomes

            Yeap. shit posting. keep propaganda.

            November 12, 2013 at 10:57 pm
      2. Phreeze

        everybody shits on EMP. EMP are shit.

        November 12, 2013 at 12:13 pm Reply
        1. gorgy

          yes we are

          November 12, 2013 at 4:28 pm Reply
      3. dtfgrunt

        rus would never blue PL or any of n3 again,you took our space

        if you want blue,applogize and transfer all rus sov to russian hands

        then we can talk

        November 12, 2013 at 3:14 pm Reply
        1. Bring the Pain

          Maybe they should just give all back to Atlas and see where it goes from there. Didn’t they hold it for a long time?

          November 12, 2013 at 3:15 pm Reply
        2. zenoidan

          Omg…..this can only be a russian retard.

          Have fun grinding all that tons of regions and the SOV in US-TZ…..will be harder to be succesful than survive a russian winter.

          Dead RA Supercap fleet (if some are left to kill) before X-MAS!!

          November 12, 2013 at 5:41 pm Reply
        3. Washi Meisei

          Is that crying I am hearing?
          If you are from Solar. Well you lost your space because you pissed off other Russians who initially formed the coalition to fight you, along with threatening INK and Whyso. Then after N3 formed they joined in along with PL. Of which they don’t like Solar that much, for reasons stated many times in other people’s posts.
          If you are from Red Alliance….. well your leadership thought it was a good idea to attack Darkspawn. Which RA was warned stop attacking DSP and continue hitting Solar.

          So either way you lost your space due to the leadership of your own alliances. Quite the whining already.

          November 14, 2013 at 2:06 am Reply
  5. Grunt

    “Our main targets will be DSP/INC.”

    I think they forgot that those 2 kicked them out of Insmother faster then a rubicon ceptor. Lol..this is gonna be hilarious.

    November 12, 2013 at 9:24 am Reply
    1. Danny Payne

      Well i guess all those n3/nc. supers who helped you’s didn’t have anything to do with it i guess …

      November 12, 2013 at 10:02 am Reply
      1. N3 WarHQ

        And the same supers are still ready to kick your ass again, so why don’t you do your self a services and just crawl back into your grave again.

        November 12, 2013 at 10:09 am Reply
      2. Grunt

        That was a one or 2 time event to quickly clear a few SBU’s. Why do yous till have that in mind? All of the fights were won by DSP/INK. Not a single fight, if i remember correctly, was lost to RA/GE.

        November 12, 2013 at 10:12 am Reply
  6. RA dude

    It surely takes skill to piss off this many rus alliances which normally are neutral or even hostile to each other. Some people dreamt about Russians joining together and removing Goons. But oh look, N3 became more desired target instead. Well played, N3!

    November 12, 2013 at 9:28 am Reply
    1. Necromonger

      Thats what you get when you are to elite to act normal to other entity’s.
      You get hated, hated so much that even Russians combine their firepower and forget their grudges and hate among themselves.

      November 12, 2013 at 9:43 am Reply
      1. N3 WarHQ

        Why should we act normal to trash like you?

        November 12, 2013 at 10:12 am Reply
        1. tara read

          Says the neutered PL pet.

          November 12, 2013 at 10:14 am Reply
          1. N3 Fanbud

            Wondering which entity calls u pet.

            November 12, 2013 at 12:52 pm
      2. rusrus is rusted

        you will fail hard just like the ussr did. Next i see romanian legion announcing they are joining the war. Keep failing at being relevant RA.

        November 12, 2013 at 10:19 am Reply
      3. insider

        i doubt that it has anything to do with elitism of the n3s . n3 kicked solar out because solar wasnt neutral in the tribute war (read: actually helped goons) –> solar wants revenge

        pl kicked -a- out –> they want revenge too

        and for the rest … guess they like shooting alot (who could blame them for that?)

        goons are beeing spared because they didnt kick out any rusians (whitenoise doesnt exist anymore and rightly canot lead a revenge campaign against goons)

        a

        November 12, 2013 at 11:34 am Reply
    2. plow

      well if ra weren’t a bunch of idiots and try to take dsp and ink space they likely would of not found themselves in such a situation.

      November 12, 2013 at 2:03 pm Reply
    3. Washi Meisei

      RA would still have their space if they weren’t a bunch of idiots. We warned RA about attacking DSP. RA didn’t listen so you lost your space. Now you expect Solar to take you back with open arms when you were a part of removing them from their space?

      November 13, 2013 at 2:15 am Reply
  7. Just Saying

    INK/DSP did beat the crap out of them and chased them out of their home however, they did so while having NC. super support on stand-by. Unless INK/DSP has grown their super cap assets or at least amassed a good number of dreads in the last few months, I fear INK/DSP will have a hard time holding back RA and eventually Gorgon Empire.

    Let the fire works begin :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

    November 12, 2013 at 9:42 am Reply
    1. superspy17

      In case you haven’t noticed – INK is now a full N3 member. They do not hold sov to defend (all now NA) – and yes, they probably have 2-3 times the amount of SCs today than when they last engaged RA/GE… not that that number is significant. RA is a scrub alliances that fails to engage or mobilize it’s member base. It’s also a GE pet.

      November 12, 2013 at 10:32 am Reply
      1. LOL

        RA where actually given space by xdeath jus shows how much scrubs they are lol btw RED ALLIANCE U CANT WIN WARS CLOAKED

        November 12, 2013 at 12:59 pm Reply
      2. Just Saying

        Good to hear. Although i criticize INK at times, I still love them Nerds. Having flown with them since the FAIL war till the last RA war, i know what INK is capable of given there is good member turn out. GL INK/DSP

        November 12, 2013 at 5:25 pm Reply
      3. Washi Meisei

        Correction RA is now a XIX Legion of Death pet.

        November 13, 2013 at 2:17 am Reply
  8. Danny Payne

    Eh RA is still alive ? i’m not trollling i actually thought they had snuffed it :/ lol

    November 12, 2013 at 9:46 am Reply
    1. somedude

      rusian aliances seem to be imortal in eve . -A- was believed to be dead many times over the years , and same goes for RA, and even Solar .

      November 12, 2013 at 11:25 am Reply
  9. trolololo

    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    November 12, 2013 at 10:30 am Reply
  10. Northern Vet

    Lol the Russians really hate us don’t they? Jesus

    I just hope DSP/INK start getting there numbers up and I wonder if Legion of XXDeathXX will help DSP/INK out aswell maybe not directly but just there to shoot RAs ships

    November 12, 2013 at 10:35 am Reply
    1. Russian

      I don’t think there is much hate, it’s just those lands you’re sitting on historically belonged to Russian alliances, and now they want them back I guess.

      November 12, 2013 at 12:06 pm Reply
    2. Not russian

      xXDeathXx gave systems to RA in Geminate this summer. Don’t know if they’ll turn around and shoot them now, but I don’t think DSP/INK. need their help for good fights.

      November 12, 2013 at 4:26 pm Reply
    3. Just Saying

      Being a former INKdude i know that once INK has a fire under their ass, they start mobilizing and members come out of the woodwork to join fleets.

      November 12, 2013 at 5:28 pm Reply
  11. Leicester

    In response to Red Alliance joining the war N3 has announced they will be deploying RANE to defend the northern area, casualties are expected to be light.

    November 12, 2013 at 10:57 am Reply
    1. Grunt

      I lol’d. But, it is true.

      November 12, 2013 at 10:58 am Reply
    2. nc.#1

      lol thats true

      November 12, 2013 at 11:08 am Reply
  12. randomn3

    cool. hilariously stupid kms inc.

    November 12, 2013 at 11:07 am Reply
  13. DDgrunt

    Amusing news! The arrogant elitism that is Pandemic Legion infects and corrupts anything it touches. They ride the coat tails of the mega blobs, suck them dry and abandon their rotting corpses…DRF, TEST and now N3. With Nulli and PL on the same side, its not are hard decision to shoot them.

    November 12, 2013 at 11:19 am Reply
    1. Mohamad's Comment

      I see it so funny that CFC dudes are impersonating DD pilots just to spin the propaganda at a coalition that they can’t destroy themselves…
      Now the mittani will wait few weeks and when both sides weakens.. he will take N3 space… and later… no one to fight but Russians.. so we will get their space too.. and game over ;)

      November 12, 2013 at 12:53 pm Reply
      1. AAA

        Yes, CFC will happily hold Catch and NPC Stain. Please don’t excite me and give me wet dreams!

        November 12, 2013 at 11:11 pm Reply
  14. AAA4ever

    Ahhhhh….a glorious new war! and I get to shoot PL yet again :)

    November 12, 2013 at 11:21 am Reply
  15. LOLS

    Stopped reading at

    “We were worked hard on improving our fleet participation from 30 to 100. Time to use what we’ve got.”

    Our Corp has more Industry Alts that that ….

    November 12, 2013 at 12:11 pm Reply
    1. one guy

      You live in…
      wait…
      Highsec right?

      There are big differences between accounts, players and fleet participation…
      Accounts says nothing about the amount of the real players behind them.
      And even pure number of Players says nothing about Activity.
      And active Players and active joining a fleet is also a difference you know? ;)

      November 12, 2013 at 1:46 pm Reply
  16. Random CFC Grunt

    On No! RA hopped on the bandwagon (erm…Stainwagon) Now the N3 coalition is DOOMED!…yeah… RA right now is beyond even AAA levels of shit, fuck them, hope they finally die sometime.

    November 12, 2013 at 12:46 pm Reply
    1. Guy

      They might be garbage, but it’s still another seventy or so F1 pushers added to DTF fleets.

      November 12, 2013 at 12:47 pm Reply
      1. JIeoH Mocc

        That would be the day. Can’t imagine them in any DTF fleet. Who’ll take them in?
        Mactep =) ?

        November 12, 2013 at 2:28 pm Reply
        1. random passerby

          Well, for one they do have a decent bomberwing with a good FC. So they don’t really need an invitation.

          November 12, 2013 at 3:44 pm Reply
          1. stainres

            We have Old Hroft.

            There’s no need for any other bombing FC, ever.

            November 12, 2013 at 4:46 pm
          2. nope

            Sadly, Hroft doesn’t pull enough numbers. There are barely enough people to bomb foxcats without instacane support. You do need more people in bomberwing. Otherwise any decent antibomber support will reduce Hroft to a glorified scarecrow.

            November 12, 2013 at 7:22 pm
          3. JIeoH Mocc

            Which would preserve the status-quo as is, DTF fleets aside, RA fleet aside.
            Also kind of managed to miss the successes of RA bomber wing, any battle reports?

            November 13, 2013 at 7:34 am
    2. Random N3 grunt

      When are you guys joining in? How about a 2nd front? Come put us out of our misery!

      November 12, 2013 at 12:53 pm Reply
      1. Random CFC Grunt

        Personally I’d like to kick DD and AAA’s teeth in but I’m not into the politics and these, who are hate N3 much more. Ask them.

        November 12, 2013 at 1:02 pm Reply
  17. The Man in Black

    All you F1 pushing grunts need to take a step back for a moment. A united russian front is fucking scary, and you should be concerned. You can’t failcascade the russian alliances like others, they are willing to grind, fight at crazy off hours if necessary, and will do crazy shit to win. The only reason solar lost their space is because of thw dog pile. Throw BL and possibly some goons in the mix and shit just got real for N3.

    RA joining is symbolic more than strategic. A united russian front should control large swaths of null, and and might in the long run pose a serious s threat to Goons. Russians are the only ones who could match the Goons in their wars of attrition.

    November 12, 2013 at 1:15 pm Reply
    1. Random CFC Grunt

      Yeah… now only xXDEATHXx remains to join… oh wait… they won’t because of the butthurt between them and SOLAR. Guess we’re safe then.

      November 12, 2013 at 1:19 pm Reply
      1. This is a Fact Jack

        xxdeathxx is aligned with n3. they are blue. havent seen them on the field yet, but rusrus tz.

        November 12, 2013 at 5:43 pm Reply
        1. 9uy

          They have been lm field. In Mallers.

          November 12, 2013 at 10:48 pm Reply
    2. Random N3 grunt

      You exaggerate! I agree with you that a united Russian coalition can be a significant force to face off with. But to say they would easily take out N3, I doubt it. To say they can match the Goons, I doubt it even more. The only way the Russians can take down N3, is if CFC decides to fully commit against N3…WITH the Russians. If that happens …its game over for us. But why would the CFC do that? Russians and N3 fighting each other only helps the CFC in stacking up their strength and wallet even more. They don’t even have to fight to win anymore!

      November 12, 2013 at 1:29 pm Reply
      1. The Man in Black

        As you said, Goons will commit some forces, enough to tip the scale only. They want the Russians to weaken N3, not win outright. Goon interest is to keep the other major blocks strong enough to hold each other down, not strong enough to pose a threat to goons.

        My guess is Russians take back some old Russian space, then the goons stop helping.

        As for the Russians posing a threat to Goons, I said in the long run (think years), if they take their current holdings + large chunks of good southern space to rent, they might have the funds and will to pose a threat years from now. Right now N3 lacks the willpower to ever beat goons in a straight up fight, a long drawn out war would grind N3 down resulting in Goon victory. The Russians lack the money to fight a prolonged war against the Goon war chest. But in Eve, ISK is a lot easier to get than solid player moral.

        November 12, 2013 at 3:48 pm Reply
      2. This is a Fact Jack

        you are losing space already. ask your scrub friends in the south how they are doing. when you talk about this war, make sure you include all the crap that you are towing around with you. borders are changing and systems are being lost. you are already losing this war. incompentece and stupidity will lead n3 to lowsec then to fw.

        November 12, 2013 at 5:42 pm Reply
        1. Random N3 grunt

          Ok! We are loosing and will continue loosing so hard that we will get back in low sec doing FW. K cool! It will surely happen because you said it. RL will suck so much because our space pixel empire will be completely destroyed!!

          November 12, 2013 at 7:27 pm Reply
    3. N3. best dot.

      As if Solar (who we fucked up in a month and took the entire east), BL (who are terribads and rely on 1 single fc), -DD- (who are so terrible that they don’t deserve a comment) could take on N3.

      Yeah buddy, keep dreaming. We’re just letting them get all uppity so we can get some action while sitting on 1T/month in rental isk. Being awesome at this game is hard k?

      November 12, 2013 at 1:57 pm Reply
      1. JIeoH Mocc

        you mean when you’re not busy bitching about blobbing and all that, and you not needing your sov anyway etc. etc.
        Yeah, sounds legit.

        November 12, 2013 at 2:50 pm Reply
        1. really?

          let me guess you are one that cries to daddy mittens to bring 1000 dudes to bail you out then cries more when it crashes nodes?

          November 12, 2013 at 5:41 pm Reply
          1. JIeoH Mocc

            Nah, not really. I don’t contact anyone to get anyone, due to being a non-factor. I also would like to point out that your sentry carriers create each the lag of tens of people by releasing drones onto the grid. I also would like to stress the point that i don’t blame anyone but CCP for the node crash, though i do intend pun at those who claim that the node crash didn’t save at least one titan. But then again I’ve already seen N3 people admitting that, so that can be put to rest.

            November 13, 2013 at 7:33 am
      2. This is a Fact Jack

        As if n3 can do anything without PL, holding your hands.

        November 12, 2013 at 5:40 pm Reply
      3. CFC SUCKS and their blue donut

        Black Legion is good. Don’t under estimate them because elo has a huge ego.
        They stupidly fell for a couple traps resulting in Black Legion losing their supers, carriers and a good part of their dread fleet.
        The unfortunate thing with Black Legion is they can’t seem to stand up to the Russians and tell them to fight their own battles. Yes I know they are mercs….. but even mercs tell ones to go screw themselves over the money they could make.

        November 14, 2013 at 1:37 am Reply
    4. bahahah

      wow more lies i see. You see the russians cant even mach n3 that is why bl and cfc had to be called to help them. bl and cfc alliances bring 400+ ships to every fight they have

      November 12, 2013 at 5:40 pm Reply
      1. BL>N3

        BL and CFC bring 400 ships. Keep dreaming. THE MOST WE HAVE HAD IN A BL FLEET IS 150 people, thats including dread alts/scouts and links.

        CFC have been fucking around but no where near this 400+ ships to every fight.

        Truth is you cant count and dont know whats going on.

        November 12, 2013 at 6:04 pm Reply
        1. lalala

          so, BL is able to field 10%+ of their members. N3 is not able to field significant more than 2% on a good day. so, don’t use the CFC bullshit as excuse that you are outnumbered, N3 is not able to motivate their members from start on.

          November 12, 2013 at 7:48 pm Reply
      2. bitch

        also its not like AAA/DD asked for help from cfc thats just what they do… so quit using that as an exuses like AAA needs them cause it aint true.

        November 12, 2013 at 11:52 pm Reply
    5. Barkaway

      The biggest problem the russians have is that they don play well with people from other countries, which makes them vulnerable because their primetime is so small, 1 of the reasons to why N3 had it so easy against them, when solar fought Legion it was different, it was russian against Russian.

      November 12, 2013 at 7:42 pm Reply
    6. lalala

      N3 are no F1 pusher, they are assign drone faggots.

      November 12, 2013 at 7:44 pm Reply
    7. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

      A united Russian front SHOULD control large swaths of null, but they won’t. They’ll backstab each other like before when N3 starts god-smacking them and it will be the same story as all the other times.

      November 13, 2013 at 11:42 am Reply
  18. Chris

    I totally just read the translation in a russian accent. Left satisfied.

    November 12, 2013 at 1:26 pm Reply
  19. Grey

    RA are possibly the worst alliance in the game, and when they previously worked with N3 were utterly worthless, this should be entertaining especially now they think that they are relevant

    November 12, 2013 at 1:42 pm Reply
    1. dichzor

      i agree. although both DSP and INQ are really bad as well, RA takes the terribad crown, so to speak. i think even glorious elitepvp’ers from FA outrank the current reincarnation of RA.
      So not much news, RA wants to get onto some killmails, going to put some afk cloakers in some systems and maybe a fleet or two whelped now and then. How is it news, i dunno. Tomorrow they’ll announce that 2 homeless cripples from xXxLegionxXofxXUaxxxDeathxxX also joining this war. i suppose that will be newsworthy as well. Imo RA should join n3, if they want to inflict any meaningful damage upon them.

      November 12, 2013 at 1:49 pm Reply
      1. -_-

        SHHH dont mention FA or like a imp dave will show up!

        November 12, 2013 at 2:26 pm Reply
        1. Dave from FA

          Muhahahaa

          FA run CFC etc etc we aren’t mittens sheep etc etc out purpose isn’t to fill mittens RL wallet by keeping a safe rmt environment etc etc

          November 12, 2013 at 9:50 pm Reply
          1. Washi Meisei

            ouch my ribs hurt from laughing to much.

            November 14, 2013 at 1:12 am
      2. GSection

        Yes, INK is terrible with its 80% efficiency.

        November 12, 2013 at 6:00 pm Reply
      3. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

        ROFL… How true…

        November 13, 2013 at 11:35 am Reply
    2. Jaime Gomes

      EI dont be like that. RA spent countless nights grinding sov while n3+pl were shooting solar.

      November 12, 2013 at 2:07 pm Reply
      1. truthofit

        WRONG the truth is ra would bring 50-90 ships and either jump in solo without saying anything and get whelped in 30 seconds or get bombed EVERY TIME off field. Now the grinding was done main by n3 as they hit 20-30 systems every single night as i was there and it was very boring.

        November 12, 2013 at 5:39 pm Reply
  20. slo

    more like your chance to lose billions worth of caps like usual. the worst useless alliance out there.

    November 12, 2013 at 1:59 pm Reply
  21. Joshua

    Red alliance as always waited for blue wagon to form, now they want to jump in. The real question is will SF and DD plus em or will ignore em :)

    November 12, 2013 at 2:26 pm Reply
    1. JIeoH Mocc

      My bet is on ignore.

      November 12, 2013 at 2:29 pm Reply
  22. old eve

    well they are rus,we will probably blue them,insmother is theirs by right after all

    November 12, 2013 at 2:58 pm Reply
    1. russobad

      they lost all rights after attacking friendly space when n3 gave them the space they had which they did not even earn really

      November 12, 2013 at 5:37 pm Reply
      1. AAA baby

        RA owned insmother for years before NC. was formed idiot

        November 12, 2013 at 11:48 pm Reply
      2. Washi Meisei

        in 2011, RA had a large portion of the south. Scalding Pass, Wicked Creek, Insmother, Detorid, Tenerifis, Omist, Impass, Immensea, Cache, The Spire, Etherium Reach.
        RA lost it all after the Russian civil war. RA then traded space with Cascade (Cascade got Detorid, while RA moved to Delve). While Solar Fleet got Insmother, Scalding Pass, Cache, Etherium Reach etc. and Gypsy Band got Wicked Creek.

        November 14, 2013 at 1:07 am Reply
  23. LaMuerte

    Ooo NO! Now Eve is a zombie game! The Red Corpse is awakening again!

    November 12, 2013 at 3:03 pm Reply
    1. riverini

      I chuckled, +1

      November 12, 2013 at 3:42 pm Reply
      1. lolhard

        what is dead can never die,it can only sober up :)

        btw riverini can we now expect you to go back to RA or?

        November 12, 2013 at 4:04 pm Reply
  24. na

    Hopefully RA/GE side campaigning, focusing on DSP/INC will cap some of the bigger tidifest timers. So im all for it, go and get them RAge….

    November 12, 2013 at 3:13 pm Reply
    1. stainres

      most likely ra/ge will reach some kind of agreement with DTF and join DTF fleets when there are more important timers

      November 12, 2013 at 4:02 pm Reply
      1. stainres

        Why are you posting as me? And why would anyone in DTF want to fly with the incompetent husk of shit that is RA?

        November 12, 2013 at 4:43 pm Reply
        1. LOL

          because they are just as shit? i mean look they had to get daddy mittens and bl to help just to make it even slightly challenging

          November 12, 2013 at 5:36 pm Reply
          1. This is a Fact Jack

            otherwise you would have just blobbed the fuck out of them like you did when you took Solars space. Congrats on being the people being blobbed now. what comes around goes around. so you better pack your stuff and move to low sec. I hear minny FW needs help. better start working on those FW standings.

            November 12, 2013 at 6:01 pm
          2. Russian Excuses

            Your opinion however retarded is opinion never the less.

            Solar as brighter bees in the hive have already established, lost their space for a number of reasons. Ill list for your slow brain.

            The drone war Solar failed due to:

            1. Solar didn’t speak to their allies very well.
            2. Solar back stabbed some allies didn’t help others.
            Solar went from having a bigger bloc and more numbers in fleets at start of the war to rarely fighting on their own.
            Nobody but Solars fault that happened.
            3. Solar needed far more space than their numbers needed soley for rmt/botting.
            4. Solar pissed NCdot off by trying to Jew NCdot moons, trapped NCdot carrier fleet and tengu fleet whilst trying to save a moon Solar RFd. Which sparked off the initial war which NCdot/evoke own vs a larger Solar bloc, solar lost this conflict.
            Then when Dotbros were fighting cfc massively outnumbered, solar again thought greed and tried jewing NCdot moons & conveniently started 2nd front, wich Dotbros held off both aggressors for almost 4 months.

            NCdot did not forgive or forget Solars cowardly actions in this.
            Cannot blame NCdot for helping N3 to evict Solar bloc.

            Why Solar attacked NCdot moons in the first place???

            That’s easy, because they are greedy first and foremost, plus blamed NCdot/PL for helping RA/xXxdeathXx, who were Contracted by RA/xXdeathXx the same way Solar contracted BL. No difference AT ALL.
            You also forget it was Solar who back stabbed WN/RA/xXdeathXx and took what space they wanted.

            So Solar have no real reason to blame some one due to them losing at their own dirty game.

            November 12, 2013 at 8:45 pm
          3. stainres

            So the basics here are “SOLAR did a bad game of diplo got blobbed.”

            Yet suddenly when they play a good game of diplo it’s bad because “LEET SPARTAN WARRIORS” in N3 are getting blobbed?

            OK.

            November 13, 2013 at 4:00 am
          4. Jara Mulkka

            Well said.

            November 14, 2013 at 5:26 am
          5. Washi Meisei

            Well said.

            November 14, 2013 at 1:00 am
          6. disband the CFC

            @ this is a fact….. WTF are you smoking? go back to high sec goon, null is too hard for you to understand.

            November 13, 2013 at 4:21 am
          7. xxxxx

            Denial is the first stage.

            November 13, 2013 at 2:13 pm
          8. disband the CFC

            denial of what?
            I am not denying that CFC is shit, nor am i denying that RA is shit.

            November 15, 2013 at 12:55 am
        2. NC.

          also you and many may not know this… But RA have survived longer then you’ve been playing eve. They have had their ups and downs but I can tell you this they are not incompetent or noobs, they can field a hundred man bs fleet no prob and will be a great ally to fly with their russian brothers. But yeah RA used to be the shit, easily rivaling pl in supers etc… you epople dont know shit about alliance histories

          November 12, 2013 at 11:47 pm Reply
          1. stainres

            I joined Eve in 2006. I know RA used to be decent, but now they’re useless.

            Evil Thug was forever better than anyone in their alliance and I’m glad to have flown with him.

            November 13, 2013 at 12:57 am
    2. Washi Meisei

      RA/GE couldn’t do a thing months ago. What makes you think they can do anything now? RA is useless. They were useless in the war against Solar, they failed to pay the sov bill MANY MANY times when their TCU’s came online, they failed to listen to either Krom or Space Chutney when they lead the coalition against Solar. When N3 formed and joined in the fight against Solar, RA was shit.
      When RA back stabbed DSP and attacked DPS, they were told back the fuck off and continue hitting Solar or be reset. They made the choice to ignore their orders and continued attacking DSP.
      Solar Fleet, Red Alliance made their mistakes, but blame everyone else for those mistakes.
      Oh yeah and don’t forget GE backstabbing Gypsy Band, INK, RA and the rest of the coalition early in the war against Solar, when they backed out of the war as soon as they gained a couple systems for themselves.

      November 13, 2013 at 1:50 am Reply
      1. Jara Mulkka

        RA aren’t as bad as most people think/remember them to be. I’ve seen a few BRs in the past 2-3 months of them practicing bombing and they’ve become pretty decent at it. Seems like they’ve learned a thing or two from Gorgon who do have decent pvp pilots.

        November 14, 2013 at 5:25 am Reply
        1. Washi Meisei

          Yeah but a few lucky bombing runs doesn’t win the battle nor does it get you the sov. We’ve flown with Ra, and yes they are shit.
          Gorgon and Solar were farming RA for their good pvp pilots. RA is no more. The only thing left for them to do is disband. Even if Solar/DD/-A- pushes N3 out….. RA won’t get squat….. no one trusts them anymore.

          November 15, 2013 at 12:54 am Reply
          1. Jara Mulkka

            That’s not true, bombers can totally win a fight for you. They can give you the edge right in the heat of battle. N3 was recently complaining that CFC bombers won DTF the fight in E-Y just two days ago. And don’t forget the opening battle on Nov.2 in G-E where N3 bombers were absolutely decisive in giving N3 the slight edge in ISK efficiency (although overall losing the fight).

            November 16, 2013 at 2:34 am
  25. blob bystander

    I love how n3 is now at war with every portion of nullsec, I wonder how that happened? :P

    November 12, 2013 at 4:28 pm Reply
    1. geeiwonder

      Easy, everyone want to dog pile, eve has always been about fighting when you outnumber and running if now. Why would anything change?

      November 12, 2013 at 4:37 pm Reply
    2. one guy

      arrogance, and simply not be trustworthy, because backstabbing former friends…

      November 12, 2013 at 4:51 pm Reply
      1. truth

        the truth is -a- was given space by n3 under conditions that they not work with solar then they turned around and gave solar a staging system in catch. Also RA was given space by n3 when solar was taken out and then they turned around and started attacking friendly space so they were removed. So the russians are the ones that can not be trusted as you see

        November 12, 2013 at 5:35 pm Reply
        1. stainres

          No, just no.

          The agreement that -DD- would not blue SOLAR and give nulli KW for a logistics stepping stone and N3 would not interfere with our removal of TWATs from Catch. You repeatedly interfered in our affairs so we no longer felt bound to any of our agreements. Thus the war.

          Get the fuck over yourself.

          November 13, 2013 at 3:59 am Reply
          1. Washi Meisei

            He was semi right about RA, Though RA was given space (the half of Scalding Pass taken from Imperial Legion and Insmother). THEN N3 joined in the war against Solar, where then RA got parts of the Spire, and Cache. Then RA fucked up and attacked DSP. They didn’t want to listen to their masters, so they were reset and evicted. Then they whined in the mittani and here on EN24 claimed they were the ones stabbed in the back. ROFLMAO

            November 13, 2013 at 4:13 am
    3. YOLO

      Because when theirs only 2 other blocs Rus target the bloc that easier to deal with.
      Let’s face it Rus can demonise all they like, they are puppets in Mittens show.
      Confirmation of Rus being nothing but a brief show is RA joining lol.

      The weak gather to fight the strong always been the way.

      Rus just making excuses for their own failures, there own instances where they have either back stabbed their allies or not helped them. There’s obvious examples of this with -a- Solar and RA.
      Demonising here is nothing but grasping at straws propaganda.

      November 12, 2013 at 6:32 pm Reply
      1. nc.

        because Russian allainces have been far more independent then cfc who just blueing everyone to boost their blob. and they dont stab their allies in the back idiot, yes maybe AAA didnt help Atlas when they were being pummeled which in my oppinnion was AAA’s biggest backstab. Nulli for example betrayed AAA for ditching them while they were trying to defend nulli space… they ditched because AAA wouldnt commit its super fleet to fight hbc and cfcs supers which obviously included pl… long story short people hating on russian alliances for no reason or evidence, do not know what they r talking about and quite frankly diserve to be tortured :)

        November 12, 2013 at 11:44 pm Reply
        1. anonymous

          Not going to say it is a nationaility thing but Russians have their own fair share of betrayals of both others and themselves. Is your memory so short that you do not remember the Russian civil war in the dronelands?

          November 12, 2013 at 11:49 pm Reply
          1. Sigh

            Yup like yesterday Solar and friend stabbing WN/RA/xXdeathXx in the back and then hating PL/NCdot for being contracted by former mentioned alliances.
            This is where the hate starts for Solar against PL/NCdot, the hate stems from a simple fact in wich they can’t admit. This fact is PL/NCdot were contracted the same way Solar have contracted BL.
            No different at all.

            However all of a sudden Solar take it personally.
            Solar was the one that back stabbed in the first place an took a lot of the east for their rmt.

            Those kids are fucked riiiiiiight up with how they think. Need to take the dirty ruski coke at a slower pace me thinks…

            November 13, 2013 at 12:13 am
          2. Jara Mulkka

            Um, what? The hostilies between SOLAR and LOD started when a Director left SOLAR and stole something like 900 billion ISK as he transfered over to LOD. If I remember right, it had something to do with the NeoCortex Industry corporation (they are in No Value now). SOLAR wanted the money back and when LOD declined, SOLAR declared war on LOD. Suffice it to say, LODs reluctance to give up what SOLAR viewed as a criminal meant that “friendly relations” between LOD and SOLAR must have been already declining before this incident to the point where they became just neighbours rather than friends. So, when SOLAR decided to declare war on LOD, they were no longer backstabbing a friend, more like a neighbour that screwed your wife.

            For all the people that think Rus backstab any more than other alliances in game, how was this situation that much different from the whole NC. and BL affair over Wicked Princess? Both alliances had an argument over the actions of one pilot, and that’s all it took to break their friendship.

            November 14, 2013 at 5:22 am
  26. N3 Dude

    I say bring it lets have all the russians come and try to rain on N3, when shit hits the fan you know who your true allies are so this is a good test to see who is loyal to N3 and who is loyal to this new RUS coalition. I find it funny though ppl keep squacking about N3 being un-trustworthy yet time after time these RUS Coalitions stab each other in the back and Fail Cascade. Just bare in mind that certain entities are taking the big risks in this fight on the Russian side while others just sit quiet, waiting for other to push a fight and take all the risk. You also can’t tell me BL has been enjoying this war so far went from elite to so so once they started fleeting with these guys.

    November 12, 2013 at 4:51 pm Reply
    1. NC.

      buddy you clearly underestimate the russians… LMAO i will admit that pl/nc. contain the elite American and Western European countires members…. But russia has many elites and have at one point been larger and far more powerful then goons. The russians are also far more determined and will not give up… even if they lose their space they wont failcascvade you idiot since they have never before… RA, xxdeath, solar, AAA, are all alive and kicking and doing quite well for themselves. and im sure bl will vouche that these Russian alliances they r working with right now are far far more capable then cfc was lmao. stupid cfc scrubs think they are great… Cfc will fall someday and I hope the new power players denies every cfc member access to their alliance and nullsec. Cause cfc members just want access to null cause they are all brainless carebear bitches

      November 12, 2013 at 11:39 pm Reply
      1. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

        The Russian Alliances have survived because nobody else will have them.

        November 13, 2013 at 11:19 am Reply
  27. RelaxItsjustEVE

    Eve attracts shitty people; people that have been shit on their entire lives in RL and now all they want to do is shit on others. Alliances don’t make any sense here, as its a game about kicking people while their down and shitting all over them. These same people will cry about being ‘blobed’ and will themselves ‘blob’ someone else 5 min later, but that’s ok, as long as they are the ones kicking someone while their down and shitting all over them. Oh and there is no lack of internet touch guys here either, everyone is a retired marine or special forces or mma or insert whatever bullshit you want. Welcome to eve, a glorious steaming shit pile. So why are you people sticking your fingers in this shit pile and then complaining that it sticks?

    November 12, 2013 at 5:05 pm Reply
    1. xxxxx

      lol, this is awesome.

      November 13, 2013 at 2:10 pm Reply
  28. Michael Meio

    The only problem I see here is motive.
    Being the reason for engaging in winter attempts nothing but selfishness and fallen eagle’s nostalgia, I believe RA should have a closer look. For it would indeed become the last charge of a doomed cavalry.

    November 12, 2013 at 5:13 pm Reply
  29. anonymous

    I am all for this. Now Solar can deal with the same incompetence we had to put up with when Red Alliance was on our side.

    November 12, 2013 at 5:25 pm Reply
    1. RA c'est dommage

      Was going to say something along these lines.

      November 12, 2013 at 5:29 pm Reply
  30. wow

    LOL ra turned around and started attacking friendlys after they were given by space by n3 and when n3 put them in their place they get butthurt funny and they think 100 people will do anything? that is a small roam for n3

    November 12, 2013 at 5:32 pm Reply
    1. AAA

      ha more like nc.’s entire cta fleet

      November 12, 2013 at 8:45 pm Reply
      1. Lawl

        Mcdot don’t need 100 dudes to ass rape -A- on their own.

        November 13, 2013 at 5:13 am Reply
  31. INK Recon

    F yeah! Killing RA again.

    November 12, 2013 at 5:33 pm Reply
  32. f1 pusher

    INK is shit

    November 12, 2013 at 6:20 pm Reply
  33. Madness

    -A- and DnD just need more bodies to throw at N3 whos twice our size. So come on in Russians!

    November 12, 2013 at 6:25 pm Reply
    1. Sperging Rusk

      Lol they are converging with several shades of shit already, in addition numbers from cfc deeming the majority of fights Rus/BL/cfc siding 2:1 odds.

      So not only assistance from worthless excuse making retards like RA, Rus forces has had help of sansha incursion for last 2 days allowing Rus to undock dreads and go at several structures. Free of N3 cap/super fleet that’s been restricted due to the incursion cyno jamming.
      Also as solar are know to do a lot, there’s been a lot of DDosing of NCdot comms.

      Russians just don’t like fighting the game do they!
      DDosing siding with cfc, kind of pathetic in all honesty.

      I play the game for war and gfs. Sort your self out and man the fuck up!

      November 12, 2013 at 6:38 pm Reply
      1. srsly, learn to spell

        Cancer… your writing gave me it.

        November 12, 2013 at 7:40 pm Reply
        1. Urgh

          You gave me a std from your words & Ignorance.

          November 12, 2013 at 8:25 pm Reply
          1. AAA

            you all are shit

            November 12, 2013 at 8:44 pm
      2. Jara Mulkka

        CONFIRMIGN THAT RUS HAVE HACKED SANSHA TO HELP RUS VS. N3. SANSHA ARE ALLIES OF DTF, CONFIRMIGD. CFC/SANSHA/DTF WILL FINALLY CONQUER ALL EVE.

        November 13, 2013 at 7:02 am Reply
  34. Observer

    Ok a lot of wanna bees saying that Rus could be a threat to cfc.
    Fact being is Rus back stab each other all the time, with that in mind they are nothing but Mittens puppets currently.
    They would never be a threat as would break up in a matter of time.
    Wich is the same likeliness here and now.

    You have Solar blaming N3 for their space being lost and getting blobbed. Fact is they lost their space due to not talking to their allies , back stabbing some and not bothering to help others. Solar are selfish. Solar went from having more numbers than N3 to being on their own, their fault nobody else’s.

    -A- blame every one for everything when they on numerous occasions again back stabbed and did not bother to help their allies (nulli) but deem to blame other for their mistakes.
    -A- even like to forget that cfc blobbed them to shit with test & PL

    Same way RA attack allies and wonder why they get booted out, all excuses for selfish attitudes and (possible adults) thinking like children.

    The whole focus is on very pathetic demonising propaganda to reinforce the very fact that this war started off, suprise suprise with -A- going back on an agreement, after being allowed unapposed to take much of their old space.

    But as an observer here facts dictate towards Rus actually being the party who are ironically calling some one a back stabber, untrustworthy, blaming N3 for all their failures, when in fact they are contradicting exactly what they say by being the ones who are doing it.

    November 12, 2013 at 8:02 pm Reply
    1. I've Bleeped

      N3 are by no means innocent bystanders here as they have been the power vacuum that took some of -A- space when they were disbanding.

      They worked more as a sole entity to defeat Solar bloc, breaking up many of Solars allies one by one.

      NCdot cannot be blamed for helping N3 against Solar after solar attempted on 2 Seperate occasions one before the Dotbros war and as everyone knows during the Dotbros to Jew moons of NCdot. Solar failing on both occasions and wondering why they lost their space.
      NCdot did not take kindly to coward tactics of Solar starting second front while they were already Significantly outnumbered by cfc.

      So small percentages of Rus propaganda are true, majority is nothing more than excuses though, propaganda drive to try and demonise the enemy.
      As long as people can sort the shit from the pile it’s ok.

      I’ve got to say man the fuck up.

      November 12, 2013 at 8:11 pm Reply
      1. Jara Mulkka

        Ugh, what mental retardation. So, it’s “cowardly jewing” by SOLAR to take advantage of a great financial opportunity to try to take a few moons from a previous aggressor (NC.) fighting outnumbered/disadvantaged in a war, but when NC. did the exact same when they agreed to be hired by LoD to dogpile SOLAR, that was what? Dollars to donuts, I’d bet you’d be too dishonest and biased to call it what it is, “cowardly jewing,” at least if we’re using the same standard. But that’s the problem, you’re not using the same standard, are you? You’re using a double standard, a classical propaganda technique intended to demonise the enemy, while valourizing your own side for doing the exact same thing. Ironically, you end up doing (demonising the enemy) precisely what you criticized in your own post hypocrite. Talk about propaganda BS, you’re hardly the one that can separate the shit from the pile it seems.

        Let’s be truthful for once and call it for what it is. What SOLAR and NC. did – and really what all major, successful alliances have done/continue to do – is make astute decision-making based on what is in the interests of the alliance members. Decisions aren’t always perfect, things don’t always go the way you plan, emotion can get in the way etc. That was why SOLAR was evicted last year, and why Dotbros fell apart etc.

        In the end, N3 propaganda is no less biased than DTF propaganda. Most great lies/the best propaganda has a kernel of truth to it upon which is built a shit ton of lies. That kernel of truth makes the rest of the stuff built onto it more believable and the lie appears as truth.

        November 13, 2013 at 6:33 am Reply
        1. anonymous

          When we were hired by Legion of Death it was not because LoD was winning. It was because they were getting their asses kicked and needed us and PL to turn the war around for them which we did for some time. What Solar did to us was dogpile onto a war we were already losing.

          November 13, 2013 at 7:06 am Reply
          1. Jara Mulkka

            As I recall, LOD hired NC. and PL shortly after the war with SOLAR began when the situation could have gone either way. LOD+allies heavily outnumbered SOLAR, but SOLAR were fighting like RUS vikings much like the Dotbros were against the CFC and were winning the majority of the engagements, yet due to the numbers disadvantage (let’s remember, SOLAR only had 1200 dudes back then, even LOD outnumbered them) found it difficult to translate that into sov success. The intervention of NC. and PL on LODs side was what turned the war heavily against SOLAR. As I understand it, NC. was in a similar predicament, they were winning the majority of the engagements but couldn’t make much of a dent sov-wise because of the heavy numbers imbalance.

            The intervention of NC., PL and SOLAR against one another in these two instances was motivated by the same sense of “blood in the water,” they both took advantage of an opportunity to make some money and get some fights against an already embattled opponent.

            November 14, 2013 at 5:15 am
      2. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

        When are you idiots gonna realize that NC. is one of the “N’s” in N3?

        November 13, 2013 at 11:11 am Reply
    2. Feeling ham

      Excuses aside this Random speaks much the truth.

      Who would’ve known it N3 being the better man in the argument.

      November 12, 2013 at 8:23 pm Reply
    3. DDgrunt

      Such utter bullshit!

      “….did not bother to help their allies (nulli)”

      Its only the completely delusion tards in Nulli that believe this. Everyone else in EVE saw Nulli break and quit the fight, move to empire while the rest of their allies like RA and AAA kept fighting. I mean AAA lost 10+ supers in Nulli Delve fighting TEST long after Nulli had run away. Add to this the fact that they also ran away from the north after being ass kicked by CFC alone and then their switching sides and invasion of AAA space alongside HBC.

      Nulli will burn and rightfully so. They have a glass chin and a long tradition of quiting wars when they get tough.

      November 12, 2013 at 10:36 pm Reply
      1. asdf

        Sorry, I can’t hear you over the echoes of Maka screaming “you do NOT talk back to -A-” and the sound of you fellating Mittani.

        November 12, 2013 at 10:57 pm Reply
        1. Rtlan

          You do realize Maka is in PL?

          November 12, 2013 at 11:48 pm Reply
        2. Easy to say when ur a Cunt

          Your a retard.

          With that fact out the way.

          Nulli fought on their own with their allies pangu etc for a fair while and received little to no assistance from -A-. Yes -A- helped first of all, but they stopped. With that in mind Nulli bravely fought test/pl created an actual challenges where cfc had to be called in.
          Nulli saw this, admitted defeat as. I support was coming from -A- so cut their losses.
          Cannot expect nulli to fight for -A- when they did not uphold their part of the bargain if you like.
          Then you refer to nulli running away in the north. Yet again your a retard.

          Dotbros fought both cfc who greatly outnumbered them, also fighting Solar bloc on a second front for almost 4 months.
          If you go back to the news of that war. There is no other entity of that size that would have held out as long as they did in the game. Dotbros raped cfc fleets time and again, only to an hour later kill Solar fleets backed by cfc. No other entity would have fought as ferociously as Dotbros did and done as well against the odds they were faced with. No other entity would have had the skill heart or drive.
          So don’t tell us that nulli ran away when you more than likely are the kind of faggot that would not of hung around for a week before jumping ship.

          November 12, 2013 at 11:48 pm Reply
        3. Easy to say when ur a Cunt

          Oops replied to wrong person, ruddy mobile.
          Redirected to DD chump.

          November 12, 2013 at 11:51 pm Reply
      2. Easy to say when ur a CUNT

        Your a retard.

        With that fact out the way.

        Nulli fought on their own with their allies pangu etc for a fair while and received little to no assistance from -A-. Yes -A- helped first of all, but they stopped. With that in mind Nulli bravely fought test/pl created an actual challenges where cfc had to be called in.
        Nulli saw this, admitted defeat as. I support was coming from -A- so cut their losses.
        Cannot expect nulli to fight for -A- when they did not uphold their part of the bargain if you like.
        Then you refer to nulli running away in the north. Yet again your a retard.

        Dotbros fought both cfc who greatly outnumbered them, also fighting Solar bloc on a second front for almost 4 months.
        If you go back to the news of that war. There is no other entity of that size that would have held out as long as they did in the game. Dotbros raped cfc fleets time and again, only to an hour later kill Solar fleets backed by cfc. No other entity would have fought as ferociously as Dotbros did and done as well against the odds they were faced with. No other entity would have had the skill heart or drive.
        So don’t tell us that nulli ran away when you more than likely are the kind of faggot that would not of hung around for a week before jumping ship lol

        November 12, 2013 at 11:50 pm Reply
        1. PL Dude

          Or as -A- used to like to say “we won’t play the game now, we will hide in lgk-, when your the other side of the map, then we will come out and play the game”
          No wonder I couldn’t stand it in -A- pussy footing about, not willing to risk efficiently to inevitable welps against better Pvp alliances.
          -A- would do it all the time, I got sick of it an left. Was a better move to PL since hate them all you like at least we fight regardless. Don’t hide in fucking station twiddling thumbs making shit excuses.

          November 13, 2013 at 12:00 am Reply
          1. stainres

            You realize mostly the entirety of AAA followed you as well, right? Same mentality, different alliance. If you hated it in -A- you get the same shit in PL.

            November 13, 2013 at 3:57 am
          2. Yawn

            Not really since you mix things up, give them a can do attitude not an attitude frequently expressed by Rus community of blaming people for their own mistakes and making wild excuses.
            Put that to one side and focus on a can do attitude and you turn into a more positive alliance mixed in with the usual members to incorporate the transition of attitude and expectance.
            The leadership and FCs can only do so much , the attitude of a group of people say a lot to how successful they are.

            November 13, 2013 at 5:11 am
        2. melosh

          so who is the problem here who do we have to burn. n3 or the Russians or is it cfc.
          Russian: really who doesn’t like shooting Russians even Russian like shooting Russians
          thats why they are not a problem.

          n3: is a bunch of loose base alliances that wants to see eve burn
          they will shoot each other eventually because why not

          cfc: they want a opec
          they can control the flow of isk
          ?????

          November 13, 2013 at 3:23 am Reply
  35. Sigh

    Rus/BL/cfc have RFd a number of stations etc. you know why?
    N3 comms have been constantly DDossed last few days.
    N3 have had their staging systems jammed by the sansha incursion last few days wich has allowed Rus dread fleets to come out of hiding, and go relatively unopposed rfing stuff.
    Looks to be that eve is giving Rus an advantage, as well as them playing dirty aswell.

    GG expect more, if you can’t hack the game man up instead of DDossing.
    Solar are aweful for it. Worse than cfc by far.

    November 12, 2013 at 8:59 pm Reply
    1. lalala

      so you want to explain us that that your whole “every alliance has an own stageing system somewhere” falls with getting an incursion in the NCdot stageing system ?

      November 12, 2013 at 9:27 pm Reply
      1. Erm what u saying?

        Huh?

        November 12, 2013 at 9:43 pm Reply
    2. Matthew

      Either get with the meta-gaming, or get out of the way.

      November 12, 2013 at 10:07 pm Reply
      1. Time to disband the CFC

        Meta gaming is for the scrubs that don’t know how to fight. Instead of meta gaming they should either get off their asses and fight or evac to high sec. As fighting in null sec is too hard for them unless they can have 10 to 1 odds. Anything less they get their asses handed to them.

        November 13, 2013 at 12:16 am Reply
        1. Mittens minion

          Put your money where your mouth is and try to disband the CFC i dare you to.
          Ahhh thats right N3 was formed to destroy the CFC and how did that make for N3 in Fountain.

          November 13, 2013 at 3:14 pm Reply
    3. lolz

      More tears from N3 :)

      November 12, 2013 at 10:30 pm Reply
      1. Logic

        Fact of the matter is cfc will stay head blob since they are the boring no content zone.
        Whilst N3 and Rus ping pong sov for ever more.
        Rus may, unlikely take some sov from N3 now, only to at a later time lose it to N3.
        At no point will cfc rule both parties space, they would implode.

        November 12, 2013 at 10:37 pm Reply
    4. time to disband the CFC

      Typical of CFC, since they don’t know how to actually fight in EVE. They DDOS the comms of others. Look at the fountain war…. CFC were getting their collective asses kicked, until they activated one of their spies to disband nulli’s renting alliance, which caused all those systems to be dropped. So N3/PL had to quickly regrind them. And with Test being well…… SHIT. Gave the CFC the opening they needed.

      November 13, 2013 at 12:02 am Reply
      1. Mittens minion

        The CFC is the best war machine in eve online by far.
        Only a fool would think otherwise.
        Multi streight campaign wins against the best alliances in eve.
        In fountain they came out with green KB even when fighting even odds against NC/N3 Test Tribe PL and a few other alliances.
        The CFC won every major decisive battle in fountain, even in the begining of the campaign.

        Morale was never higher even when they lost a battle or 2.

        Their logistics and strat planing is inequaled
        Only a fool thinks the CFC is bad at war.

        November 13, 2013 at 3:08 pm Reply
        1. Time to disband the CFC

          CFC best war machine???!!!! ROFLMAO.
          Time to lay off the drugs eh.
          The ONLY thing the CFC does is DDOS attack their oppositions comms when they can’t fight with 10:1 odds or greater. The only thing the CFC is good for is their funny propaganda. Almost as bad as the soviets with their silly propaganda. The only other thing the CFC are good at, is ganking unarmed miners and freighters.

          November 15, 2013 at 12:24 am Reply
  36. Paul

    Well it looks like the CFC have now won Eve, nothing can stop them from taking over all of Eve not now that Mittens has the Russians eating out of his hand again, Redswarm mk 2!!!!!!!

    November 12, 2013 at 9:30 pm Reply
    1. lolz

      Tears from those occupying Russian regions :)

      November 12, 2013 at 10:30 pm Reply
  37. former png

    red alliance, poor sobs. 100 people in a fleet. welcome to drone lands.

    November 12, 2013 at 10:16 pm Reply
  38. CVA Grunt

    time to activate those mining accounts the price of minerals is about to jump Red is going to loose a crap load of ships very soon .
    love this war .

    November 12, 2013 at 10:42 pm Reply
  39. Washi Meisei

    Well Red Alliance, you would not have been evicted from Scalding Pass and Insmother IF you listened to your masters, and stopped attacking Darkspawn. Don’t forget the ass kicking that Red Alliance received at the hands of INK and DSP when we reset you. Ready for another ass kicking for round 3?

    Red Alliance is only worth disbanding now. They have no FC’s they have no pilots who know how to pvp. They have only the coattails of others to hold on to now since they became pets of Legion of Death. OF which did you guys clear it with your new masters if you can join the fight?

    I doubt very much, that IF solar wins this war that red alliance will be getting anything, since you were in the war against solar fleet. Mactep may be crazy, but he isn’t stupid. He knows not to trust red alliance.

    November 12, 2013 at 11:57 pm Reply
    1. Back Stab O'clock.

      Mactep is very special, mentally special, but he can hold it together long enough to make decisions at a months sight at a time, doesn’t have the sence of making good long term decisions though.

      But yes a Russian knows to never truly trust another Russian in eve. Always watch your back.

      November 13, 2013 at 12:05 am Reply
      1. Washi Meisei

        Russians not trusting other Russians goes back to the soviets where everyone and anyone could be a KGB informer.

        Mactep is very stubborn. Trying to role play as an EVE stalin. If he canned the silly role playing, he could be pretty effective. His biggest down fall was surrounding himself with pet alliances that would bow down to him. They were all carebears, not pvp warriors.
        Now had he treated INK and Gypsy Band with respect instead of resetting them, just because they were helping NC. and Nulli against Goons when that tech moon started. INK and Gypsy Band were there for the fights. But mactep made the mistake of resetting Gypsy Band and INK.
        Then when the storm clouds of war were looming, mactep with the help of -A- RF’d a station that INK took from Cascade when Cascade lost their little war against INK. Mactep threatened INK, ‘BECOME SOLAR and -A- pets or be evicted!” Mactep lost. Mactep is butt hurt over losing to pvp’rs.

        Mactep has better space now in which to rebuild Solar. But no he still wants the shitting drone regions back.

        November 13, 2013 at 12:35 am Reply
        1. Jara Mulkka

          The irony here is that, everything you castigate MACTEP for doing, NC. has done just about the exact same since they kicked SOLAR out and expanded N3! NC. and the other core PVP alliances of N3 (Nulli, PL, Kadeshi) have surrounded them with endless hordes of pvp underachieving carebears and renters. Look at the participation rates and pvp inability of alliances like Nexus, Pangu, Whyso, Darkspawn, INK etc. They are the REAL reason why N3 are consistently fighting outnumbered and losing the war so far, NOT because of CFC’s participation.

          Consequently, N3 have a bit of an elitist problem within their coalition because there’s a big divide between their top-tier pvpers (PL, NC., Nulli etc.) and scrubs (Darkspawn, Whyso, Insidiious, Pangu, Nexus, East India Co. etc.). I’ve heard rumours that it’s starting to lead to an internal rift. Participation from Insidious has TANKED since last week from 200 to 60 pilots now, allegedly because of crazy trolling from PL. You also have PL shooting blues like this JF from East India Co. which was followed by 200 ppl leaving East India Co, about 25% of that alliance. I can’t guarantee that the events are connected though, but these rumblings do seem to be reasonable.

          http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20443014

          As much as people like to stereotype Russians (esp. SOLAR) as habitual backstabbers, these recent events and PL’s/NC.’s history with blues/former allies makes them appear just as untrustworthy and likely to backstab their allies as SOLAR or any of the other Russian alliances. After all, most of the time, all alliances try to do what is in their own interests.

          November 13, 2013 at 6:58 am Reply
          1. Join the bigger blob!

            If you had any idea of what’s going on you would know these “scrubs” have been at war for over a year. One fight after the other. One CTA after the other. It drove off the finest PvP players these “scrubs” had. What else did you expect? And now you blame them? For what? losing numbers due to a consistent war? What did you expect? Ah you want them to be pinned at a computer 24/7? For what? Pixels?

            Either way … they didn’t have too much of a choice if they all wanted to stay where they were. It was either to join the N3 coalition or get roflstomped and eventually be absorb into one of those alliances. Go figure … Especially with pandemic losers siding.

            If you’re looking to blame something or someone. Blame the puppetmasters who fabricated this during the techwars in Geminate. They knew people would get tired after fighting this long. Eventually joining the bigger blob, going to highsec or leaving the game completely.

            So this is the result. All out war in laggy circumstances with absolutely no gain. Some PvP game this turned out to be …

            November 13, 2013 at 11:27 am
          2. Kirk Otsito

            For gods sake PL is NOT N3 we are bros with NC. Yes but untill recently the rest of N3 was neutral we have recently light blued the rest of n3 for the RUS war thats it.

            November 14, 2013 at 8:00 pm
          3. Jara Mulkka

            Thank you, that only reinforces my point. PL IS a part of N3 for this war and so belongs in any discussion people have about N3 vs. DTF, including my own.

            And let’s not kid around, even before this war, apart from a few Nulli SC gankings, PL were a part of N3 in everything but name due to their buttbuddy relationship with NC. Let’s be honest, the only reason why they didn’t formally join is because they are SC kill whores.

            November 16, 2013 at 2:30 am
        2. D'INKed

          Washi do you seriously believe the absolute BS you just ranted there? Please tell all the readers that you are trolling… because some pour sap might actually believe INK actually played any real impact on the war with Solar. Heres a hint, they didn’t.

          November 13, 2013 at 7:44 am Reply
          1. Washi Meisei

            Then you weren’t there. You were in 1 of the corps that was kicked because you’d rather be carebearing, than fighting.
            INK did play a major part in the war. Especially the 1st half of the war. We were part of the force that RF’d the 1st system in that war 28Y. After Krom left EVE for RL. Space became the leader of the coalition. RA as usual kept fucking things up. After N3 took their space in Imensea, and joined the war against Solar, then INK took a back seat to things.

            Please get your facts straight eh.

            November 14, 2013 at 12:49 am
        3. noooooo

          Please tell Cuntney to get his facts straight when he tells a story from the past …

          You think INK was the only one rolling with Gypsy? Think again.

          The first station that got reinforced was in F-EM. Alongside a POS which was building a titan.

          Don’t be like these sperglords please …

          November 13, 2013 at 11:11 am Reply
      2. Dennis the Dreamer

        What happened in russia stay in russia…. Green Arrow.

        November 13, 2013 at 5:45 am Reply
    2. RA dude

      “you would not have been evicted … IF you listened to your masters, and stopped attacking Darkspawn.”

      1.) DSP openly expressed hostile intensions, so they’ve been declared enemies and pre-emptively attacked.
      2.) There’s been rumors later that DSP conspired with N3 to aggro RA and give N3 the excuse for reset and eviction should RA refuse N3’s demands to stop the war.
      3.) Screw space. You can play your BDSM games with your pets. We aren’t fans of master/pet relations.

      November 13, 2013 at 11:49 am Reply
      1. Somebody

        Lol, better say u are pets without masters, no one wants you ;)

        November 13, 2013 at 1:57 pm Reply
      2. Washi Meisei

        1. DSP didn’t attack RA…. it was RA who attacked DPS.
        2. There was no rumor. We knew that RA was going to attack DSP and we warned RA back off. RA continued to attack DSP. RA was warned once more… BACK OFF OR BE EVICTED….. RA responded with ‘we are no one’s pets’. So RA was evicted. Enough of the whining that you lost your space.
        3. When you were in the coalition to hit solar fleet. RA was very bad at following orders. Which cost the coalition in that Solar was able to take back some systems that RA screwed up on. No fans of the master/pet relationship eh… RA used to be masters, backstabbed your own allies which is how you lost your sov in the 1st place. Sent packing to Delve, where you pissed off your new masters…. lost your space for the 2nd time…… Joined the war against Solar….. then pissed off your new masters yet again and lost your space. RA is very bad at EVE, time to disband already.

        November 14, 2013 at 12:39 am Reply
  40. Na

    We don’t care RA/GE can have some space if the so wish, sov is shit. Fighting, backstabbing, threatening, begging and rape hugging makes eve what it is.

    November 13, 2013 at 1:16 am Reply
  41. Drkydrky

    Small update on the war:

    A turkeyshoot involving 30+ bill N3/PL loss occurred today. Minor losses suffered on DTF side.

    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=24535

    Thusfar, DTF massacred N3PL side on subcap battles when DTF had equal or greater numbers. However, N3PL only seems able to achieve this feat when their capital ships are deployed.

    November 13, 2013 at 1:59 am Reply
    1. stainres

      Idk where the N3 USTZ is.

      That fleet was a miracle size for us and tiny for N3. *shrug*

      November 13, 2013 at 3:54 am Reply
      1. KDF

        Solar Ddos, so no pings could be sent. Pretty sad that this is what people do to win, and still can’t take station?

        November 13, 2013 at 3:29 pm Reply
    2. Guy

      How is this possible? I thought n3 only lost when they were outnumbered 80:1 with 1500 CFC in system after being metagamed?

      November 13, 2013 at 4:22 am Reply
      1. Washi Meisei

        you are thinking of the CFC, they can’t win unless they have 10:1 to 80:1 odds on the opposition. Anything less than 10:1 they dock up. Then because they can’t win in fights, they play the meta gaming with spies to awox, disband renters of the opposition etc. N3 and PL can handle 1:1 odds and kick ass. Even outnumbered N3/PL use better tactics to win. No need for the childish meta gaming, like the CFC does.

        November 13, 2013 at 5:06 am Reply
        1. Guy

          It was a joke, buddy.

          November 13, 2013 at 5:24 am Reply
          1. Somebody

            Behind every joke is a part of true ;)

            November 13, 2013 at 1:51 pm
        2. -_-

          I would hardly call meta gaming childish. It just has another set of rules and takes someone a bit more creative. Its certainly a valid form of game play shady or not, meaning you must get even better at eve to overcome it or use it yourself.

          November 13, 2013 at 3:46 pm Reply
          1. Washi Meisei

            meta gaming is childish, when you are too busy blue balling fights while you are trying to meta game. Either fight…. or get the fuck out of null sec. Simple. Meta gaming isn’t fighting.

            November 14, 2013 at 12:30 am
    3. Yawn

      Lmfao you mean DTF/BL/CFC only manage on rare occasion a decisive victory.

      Yes you win the isk war here, this was mainly because of cfc bombers not because of DTF/BL in this fight.
      Numbers wise, due to Rus DDossing NCdot comms, wich has further more put forums and jabber out of action, communications arnt as smooth as we would like, due to this the numbers we would usually have due to them not getting pings. We are relying on who’s online at the given moment.
      All issues should be resolved soon though.
      Solar have DDossed our comms on various occasions before, it’s sad that underhanded tactics have to be employed, but obviously Rus feel it needed to help them.

      That aside the station was flipped back into our control, no fucks given.

      P.s. Majority wise of equal fights N3 come out on top. DTF/BL/CFC are still only managing very few decisive victories when more or less 2:1 odds.

      November 13, 2013 at 5:01 am Reply
    4. Cowardly Cowards

      Rus logged off other day in system when N3 was chasing them in proteus.
      Cowards be logging.

      November 13, 2013 at 5:02 am Reply
    5. N3 Dude

      Difference between us and the Russians is that we dont give a shit about ISK. We will burn 30 billion every hour and we’ll still be in shiny hips the next day ready to send you back to the hell hole you came from with the soviet sickle firmly routed up your ass.

      November 13, 2013 at 8:56 am Reply
      1. Guy

        30 billion an hour for shiny hips? I’m sold.

        November 13, 2013 at 10:47 am Reply
    6. mr nobody

      and you still couldn’t capture the station

      November 13, 2013 at 11:44 am Reply
  42. Dennis the Dreamer

    Welcome to tidi.

    November 13, 2013 at 5:39 am Reply
  43. violins

    I’m not sure N3 can survive losing 3 wars in a row. This may be the last…

    November 13, 2013 at 6:29 am Reply
    1. N3 Dude

      This is not the Dotbros coalition.
      The only war they have lost is Fountain, which wasnt really their war anyway.
      We have little friends left, but still a powerful coalition. The Solar/SW bloc dont stand a chance on their own, but when CFC get involved…

      November 13, 2013 at 8:53 am Reply
      1. Sigh

        Rus with BL. No chance vs N3 with cfc support as is happening at the moment, and the constant disruption of out of game comms/forums by the Russians, that stems a significant advantage.

        Quite sad that Rus have to go as low as DDossing, unable to play the actual game have to take things a lot further than they should.
        Very sad for their image.

        November 13, 2013 at 11:40 am Reply
        1. stainres

          And since when have we been anything but the “bad guy” in Eve?

          November 13, 2013 at 1:58 pm Reply
          1. Meh

            Well cfc is the bad guy, the abomination of eve if you like.
            Both parties would gain much from defeating cfc, eve community would gain much aswell. Will it happen, one day, no time soon :(

            Rus do back stab each other and make invalid pathetic excuses for doing so, however there is nothing wrong with war, nothing wrong with content creating.

            To that extent is where Rus/N3 greatly differ.
            They want to create content, want to have gfs mainly.
            Cfc on other hand dislike meaningful content, any content they make is false and highly doctored to keep their grunts from boredom all the time.
            They won’t put anything on the line, they have no idea AT ALL what a good fight is.
            Risk adversity, and safe haven for rmt/botting for cfc leadership to reap the rewards, that is CFCs purpose.

            November 13, 2013 at 2:22 pm
          2. YOLO

            Don’t you mean N3/Rus not differ in that regard. They both like creating content, challenges fights, wich is unlike the cfc.

            November 13, 2013 at 2:43 pm
          3. Meh

            Oops yea what I ment, am bad.

            November 13, 2013 at 2:44 pm
          4. Mittens minion

            Are you on drugs?
            The CFC has made more content in the last 3 years then any other sov block.
            You must of missed the war against White noise, Rad. NC tribute, SOCO,Test and everybody else in fountain, also burn jita x 2 and hulkgeddon just to name a few.
            And tell my why is the CFC an abomination?
            They take in and help more new players into null then any other so called leet sov alliances.
            They are very good and fair in the distribution of wealth to the alliances in the CFC. All the CFC asked of its members is have fun, and when on deployment have fun destroying our enemies and shitting up local.
            Their members are also very loyal and helpfull to even very new players.
            Ive seen titan pilots patiently explaining to a new player how to bridge, and when the noob got it right every one in fleet cheared him on.
            Anyway not that i give a fuck about what a bunch of circle jerkers think about us in the CFC, since ill most likely be having a beer with my very bad at eve CFC mates, while i piss on your dead body after the CFC butt fucks N3 AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.

            November 13, 2013 at 2:50 pm
          5. Whatever

            It’s somewhat funny you call the grinding of whitenoise, raiden, and soco space “wars”. Those were one sided grinds, and nothing more.

            November 13, 2013 at 3:23 pm
          6. Sigh

            Your wrong cfc only has made doctored content when it suites them. They put nothing on the line they go into nothing for the challenge, expecting to overweening with numbers as is the case in every single war.

            Real content comes in means of GFs challenges and a to a degree moral correctness of pursuits.
            CFCs whole purpose is to create a safe haven for rmt/botting for leadership to reap the rewards while cfc grunts get given an appreciate the little they are given.
            The cfc grunt is a lazy breed, they will wait for others to do something and tag along they are in cfc for the sole reason that it’s the safest place in eve to be a carebear.
            The weak gather in droves for protection, this is natural, but due to this getting out of hand it is a real problem for content in eve.
            It’s a real issue when CFC manipulate nerfs etc for their own gain.
            So many examples of this, cfc manipulating Titan nerf, yes they needed a nerf but not to the degree they were nerf batted. It’s irresponsible manipulation that creates one element of the issue with cfc.

            November 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm
          7. Necromonger

            All i can say is Goonswarm came a long way.
            Fought against the tirany of BoB.
            Almost got destroyed in the process.

            Fought bigger enemy’s with cheaper ships and brought Eve a whole new breath of fresh air where the Rifter pilot made a diffrence.

            No elite attitude, no bullshit.
            here have a rifter and have fun.

            Offcource all those elite boys in the hood werent happy with the swarm.
            They changed the landscape of Eve.
            And The Mittani adopted a simple but brutaly effected strategy.

            Take a few alliance’s bound by blood and stick together no matter how tuff shit gets.
            Conquer and divide.

            I know most CFC haters want us gone.
            But you will get BoB back the moment we pack our bags and leave.

            Reikuku and Finfleet with NCdot are ready to fill that gap in a heartbeat.
            And i think people forget how bad Eve was those days.

            But hey whatever floats your boat.

            Thing is i realy tought that N3+PL+HBC would forge an offensive against us.
            But their own greed blinded them so hard that they rather sucked Mittens donkey then attack us with all they got.

            Now its to late and CFC can only be beaten from within, and that aint going to happen anytime soon.
            As we are all very happy with each other.

            Even newbro’s that join us and dont know shit about eve have a place among us.
            We guide them trough their first steps, from frigate to cruiser to battleship to carrier.
            Most join us and never look for another home.

            We won Eve the moment The Mittani forged this coalition.
            Its up to our enemy’s to break us apart.

            o/ fly dangerous

            November 13, 2013 at 7:05 pm
          8. Paul

            I personally perfer the Bob days over the CFC anyday of the week.

            November 13, 2013 at 7:55 pm
          9. xxxxx

            Wow, like a breeze of fresh air from all the shit posting from the N3 turds in here.

            November 13, 2013 at 8:04 pm
          10. Paul

            Goons got lucky, Bob would of been around for alot longer if that disgruntled bob director didnt press the disband button and defect to Goons.

            It seems now Goons are now the Big Bad Evil of Eve.

            November 14, 2013 at 6:34 am
          11. Necromonger

            That Director was “spying on Goonswarm and joining their fleets only to found out he had tons of more fun in Goonswarm then he ever did in BOB.
            hance why he pushed that button and disolved all hangers / sov.

            And thats what i am trying to say, you have alot of fun in CFC, but i gues from the “outside” we might look as BoB as we also control Eve almost the same way they did.
            Exception is that from within our structure is much better and we do not use slave master style politics like BoB did.

            But one day……the cfc might go their own way……but not yet.

            November 14, 2013 at 7:10 am
          12. Paul

            CFC or no CFC, there will always be content, The north is as peace, and has been since White Noise fell apart. Every time I look at the map, the CFC have taken another chunk of space, Tribute, Branch, Dek, Cloud Ring, Fountain, Delve and Period Basis, all owned by the CFC….where next?

            Please tell me of any serious campaign against the CFC, there really isnt, not when it comes to their space. The CFC have become stagnant, and a joke in my eyes.

            The second you become a member of the CFC, treated fairly or not, you are a puppet of the Mittani, and as soon as you do something he dosnt like, he will sh*t on you and boot you out of his coalition, and the thing is, he would not be where he is today if he didnt.

            All this coming from a ex CFC member now N3, where as a mere grunt, I am more than happy to sh*t on the CFC every day :o)

            November 13, 2013 at 7:53 pm
          13. Washi Meisei

            CFC’s only content they make is griefing everyone in game. With your silly burn jita, hulkageddon, ice interdictions etc. CFC is just a bunch of geeks who want to role play as the bullies, but run away from the fights unless they can get 10:1 odds or greater. Because yes CFC can’t fight worth shit if the odds are any less than that. And when CFC runs away, they do the lame ass meta game of DDOS’ing comms of their opposition, getting spies to disband renter alliances, and other silly propaganda.

            November 13, 2013 at 11:53 pm
          14. Washi Meisei

            VERY well said.

            November 13, 2013 at 11:31 pm
    2. Washi Meisei

      Might want to lay off the drugs. N3 haven’t lost any wars yet. The war in Fountain was lost to TEST, because they would rather carebear instead of defending their systems. This war is about Mactep being butt hurt over losing the crappy drone lands.
      Red Alliance is jumping into it when they have lost their space 3 times within a year, They ran to curse to try and fight INK/DSP and lost their space for the 3rd time, then they became Legion of Death pets and moved to Geminate. Instead of disbanding like they should have long ago, they keep trying to hang on. There is no one left within RA that is of any quality pvp wise. They have no isk, they have no ships, they have no FC’s. What was once the might Red Alliance empire in the south is no more. No one trusts RA any more. Don’t humiliate yourselves anymore than you already have.

      November 13, 2013 at 11:11 pm Reply
      1. Jara Mulkka

        I’m surprised to see the “kings of content creation”, N3’ers complaining about other alliances and players trying to create content, i.e. MACTEP trying to take back SOLARs home regions and destroy their enemies. It seems that according to N3, only N3 are allowed to make content in the game, when everyone else does it by developing new allies/coalitions, starting wars, and taking territory from other coalitions, it doesn’t count because that’s all just butthurt, backstabbing and stupid, selfish decision-making (i.e. SOLAR/Rus only doing what is good for SOLAR/Rus). But when N3 does it, it’s content creation that saves the game from death by boredom. All hail our saviours, N3! Oh spare me.

        Of all the coalitions in-game, N3 suffer from the greatest sense of arrogance and delusions of grandeur. Not even CFC come close. Seriously, people are tired of N3’s unending obnoxious, self-righteous and hypocritical behaviour. That’s part of the reason your shit’s getting pushed in.

        November 14, 2013 at 1:37 am Reply
        1. Washi Meisei

          Not against making of content. Just laughing at the whining of solar fleet and red alliance ‘you guys took our space”.

          As for arrogance. CFC still tops that.

          Hypercritical….. hmmmmm that sounds like Red Alliance. yeah well join coalition kick in solar fleet. then shoot an ally, then whine that they are being evicted. ROFL

          November 15, 2013 at 12:15 am Reply
          1. Jara Mulkka

            What whining? SOLAR and RED lost their space to N3, it’s a fact. They don’t like that; neither did Nulli when they lost theirs. They use that as the reason/motivation for this war. Where’s the whining there? It would be whining if they kept bitching and did not do anything about it. Obviously they are.

            If you’re not whining about content creation, then I hope to hear all the bitching about being “blobbed” disappears. That’s a part of the content creation, you can either bitch/whine about it and go home or actually do something. N3 outnumbers DTF at least 2:1, there’s no excuse for having fewer people in fleet. Get those Nexus dudes (2000 people!) showing up in more than just 10 ships max for example.

            No way, I hardly hear a word from any CFC grunts about how powerful the CFC is, all I hear is: “N3 are Spartans” “CFC/DTF is shit/blobbers/RMTers/game destroyers that need 10:1 odds to beat us” “help us N3 so we can rescue the game from the CFC, we are the goodies” bla bla bla…

            The examples you listed for RA are not examples of hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is for example, telling everyone that doing “x” is bad, but then going ahead and doing “x” yourself.

            November 16, 2013 at 2:25 am
  44. gibson

    gj guys… both n3 and solar/sw/aaa/whatever… goons controling like 3/4 of eve and you fight with each other…just perfect… welcome to frekkin yellow eve like in few months…

    November 13, 2013 at 3:02 pm Reply
  45. Get a life

    So funny to read all the childish interventions on the forums about this conflict:
    “You took our space!”, “You backstabbed us!” “You are the bad guys!”, “No you are the bad guys!” “You guys are scrubs!”, “Well you guys suck!” “We hate you!” “We hate you MOAR!!”
    FFS guys this is a game!! Some of you guys must have a really bad RL to take this game so seriously!!

    November 13, 2013 at 3:09 pm Reply
    1. Redeem_Incarce

      you do realise this is an RPG right? If everyone just sat back and said “it’s just a game” do you really think anyone would do anything?

      November 13, 2013 at 3:22 pm Reply
      1. Get a life

        I recognize Role Playing when I see it. Some of the posts I read seem to go beyond RP. It really sounds like some people are butthurt over something(whatever that is) and it is fucking hilarious. Now as for your comment that lack of RP would lead to lack of conflicts in EVE, I would say that most people enter conflicts and war for the strategical and tactical challenge it provides. Some may be RPing it. Others, like I said, take it a bit too seriously.

        November 13, 2013 at 5:23 pm Reply
        1. Redeem_Incarce

          I agree that sometimes things are taken a little extreme but I think the whole roleplaying aspect of eve is vital for this kind of thing. If people don’t pretend they are fighting a war, and act as if there is a little importance in the actions they undertake then no one would bash a POS or move hangars of ships to new deployments.

          People will always need an enemy to focus efforts on and to do that requires a little RP. As really we’re all just geeks sat at our computers pretending to shoot another geek’s imaginary space ships to win an imaginary war.

          November 13, 2013 at 6:47 pm Reply
          1. discussted

            “As really we’re all just geeks sat at our computers pretending to shoot
            another geek’s imaginary space ships to win an imaginary war.”

            yes

            November 20, 2013 at 7:10 am
  46. BigSako

    Oh Shit.

    Red Alliance still exists? In EvE? On TQ?

    November 13, 2013 at 4:57 pm Reply
  47. Jara Mulkka

    Some recent DTF vs. N3 fights:

    1. E-YJ8G, Catch, 2320-0100, November 12-13, 2013: An even fight!!! 690 DTF (already incl. 87 CFC) of 170 BL (Maels/Zealots/bombers), 125 RZR (Maels), 100 DARK (Rokhs), 80 AAA (Rokhs), 75 SOLAR (Tengus), with 87 CFC (bombers) vs. 690 N3 of 160 NC. (Maels), 125 PL (Domis), 120 Insidious (Domis), 100 Nulli (Maels), 70 INK (Maels). DTF losses were moderate, 120 ships, of which 47 were BS’s, the rest being 40 bombers and then support, total = 56 billion ISK (??? Not sure how eve-kill calculated that number from so few losses). N3 losses were significant (approximately double DTF), 230 ships, of which 160 were BS’s, 3 carriers, and the rest support, total = 66 billion ISK. Result: DTF Victor.

    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=24555
    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20452399

    2.ZFJH-T, Scalding Pass, 1610-1620, November 13, 2013: 155 DTF with 85 DD (Rokhs), 30 AAA (Rokhs), 25 RZR (Tornados) vs. 205 N3 with 55 FRAT (Domis), 50 Nulli (Ishtars), 20 Caladrius (Domis). DTF losses were significant, 53 ships killed including 20 Rokhs and 9 Tornados, total = 10 billion ISK. N3 losses were minor, 17 ships destroyed including 9 Domis, total = 3 billion ISK. Result: N3 Victor.

    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=24557
    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20457866

    Notes: BL has some crazy participation rates for an alliance of only 1,000 people, pulling almost 20% for a fight! Also, finally we have some direct evidence of an even fight (counting CFC as DTF) between DTF and N3 where N3 “Spartans” are defeated 1 on 1 by Rus-vikings and their Aussie alcohol drinking buddies :). Hopefully, that shuts up all the Spartan talk.

    November 14, 2013 at 4:53 am Reply
    1. anonymous

      You do realize that is including all of N3’s numbers from an hour or two later when we returned to retake the station right and that you did outnumber us by nearly 150 people during the fight.

      November 14, 2013 at 5:02 am Reply
      1. Jara Mulkka

        I can only go as far as the BR let’s me unfortunately as I’m not a participant of these fights :). But, looking back at BR doctor, you do appear to be correct in that N3 reformed at around 0100 which boosts their ship count. The number of unique pilots for DTF was 642 and for N3 it was 517, so N3 was slightly outnumbered. Thanks for the correction.

        November 14, 2013 at 6:18 am Reply
  48. Spy

    Hey! This is secret hypnotoad trailer created by Red Alliance –> http://youtu.be/RZwisdUakKE
    Accessible only by URL!

    November 14, 2013 at 11:13 pm Reply
  49. ^_-

    http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=82218
    I think everyone in N3 is sincerely happy to see Red Alliance.

    November 15, 2013 at 5:49 pm Reply

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