The meeting was held today at 3:45 eve time on coalition comms. In the following video Skip to 14:55 for the start of the actual meeting (beforehand is just music)

A few notes i took for those of you who prefer reading:

– This war started off because of Solar blueing Stainwagon and deploying to KDF-GY
– n3 feel this is an incredibly aggressive approach and from this point they would be able to hit the majority of immensea, instead of standing around waiting for this they have decided to go on the offensive.
– At the moment n3 feel that Stainwagon outnumber them especially in the early eu timezone.
– N3 let stainwagon take their space back and even helped them by moving emp up north for example, they have been in friendly discussions with them and felt things were going well.
– N3 feel that stainwagon thought they needed a war, N3 also think that Stainwagon are not ready for this (i.e not having cyno jammers up in staging systems)
– Stainwagon have blued Solar/Black legion and razor (not confirmed and for what purposes this could be)
– Stainwagon told n3 “right to their face” they were not going to do a sov war, and this is what this is (based on N3 opinions)
– Russians (in general) do not like N3 and their community has something against it
– Alot of n3’s timers are set to early us tz, the worst possible place for russians and the best possible place for n3, also good time for black legion but this should generate content.
– N3 are looking to provide content out of this war by producing alot of fights and trying to win the majority of those fights to give their members alot of fun.
AAA are at this point DD pets.
– N3 expect this to become a dogpile.
– Stainwagon is not has big as N3 and has less competent FC’s.
– N3 should be able to win this war, in the beginning at least.
– Winter is no longer coming, it is here.

They then go on to ask some questions:

Q. How is N3 logistics?
A. Fine, takes a little time to get rolling but should be ok. We are moving different alliances to different locations in null sec at the moment. We operate better in alliance run fleets with coalition doctrines on coalition comms rather then the coalition all sharing fleets.

Q. Is the plan to take over catch?
A. The plan is to keep fighting, solar/black legion are not too great of allies with Stainwagon so this is just mainly a message to Darkness of Despair to ditch them.

Q. What will be the coalition fleet comps?
A. Mainly what we have been using before (i.e ishtars and proteus) also malestroms which will become our lower sp/utility option, junior fc’s will run the maelstrom fleets because they are easier to fc.

Q. What about provi-bloc?
A. Not to be offensive to the guys but they are not really relevant, we have been talking to them but fighting isn’t their thing. They are more about small gang stuff 10-20 man (Journalist note: Have they even been reading the news?) we’ve been farming them for a while now but we can say that they are 100% not on the side of AAA.

Q. What are goals for harassment, small/medium gang stuff?
A. We dont want to do the CFC thing of making you guys bash towers in bombers, main goals will be disrupting their logistics and getting as many fights as possible out of these guys.

Q. What about PL, will they join in?
A. PL has PL’s interests at mind and that is how PL works, may or may not see them but they said they support any conflict against AAA/DD. (Journalist note: There is 0% chance PL will not get involved on the side of N3 in this conflict, 0%.)

Q. Are we expecting the CFC?
A. Why not? It would be wise to expect the CFC to come, they will dogpile on the conflict in any way they can.

State of the coalition then ends as they form up into fleets for the 17:10 (eve time) timer on the I-HUB in GE-8JV.


  1. Dark Distric

    Note: Journalist should not be adding notes, or making claims about how one alliance will react in the middle of a Q&A. Q&A doesn’t stand for questions & answers and what some random scrub thinks about those answers. If the writer wanted to make his/her opinion known he/she could have done so in a summary.

    November 2, 2013 at 5:38 pm Reply
    1. SUp

      i actually think its nto so bad, he is givign his opinion but making it obvious that it is nto part ofteh meeting

      November 2, 2013 at 5:39 pm Reply
      1. Stating the obvious

        There is nothing wrong with him giving his opinion, but it kinda goes without saying that the middle of Q&A is not really the appropriate to write that opinion.

        November 2, 2013 at 8:32 pm Reply
      2. Ghost

        Combined with some factual inaccuracies and (apparent) bias in flatterpillo’s other post (the one on the fight in GE-), I think it might be wise to at least try to get this message through to him.

        November 2, 2013 at 8:38 pm Reply
    2. cheese to your whine?

      omg this is evenews24 get used to it already…..if you want to see good journalism dont read the stuff here….

      November 3, 2013 at 5:53 am Reply
      1. Me

        If you are implying that the other site is any better about this stuff, clearly you haven’t got a clue. Why do you think most of their writers that are not from their blue list don’t last very long? The editors change all their work to be CFC rose tinted, and stamp their name on it as so they can have their token N3, or BL dude or whoever to point at and say “Look guys we’re not bias”. It’s comical that you didn’t know this.

        November 3, 2013 at 6:35 am Reply
        1. Yoloswaglord mad-dog 2020 #lyf

          You’re really pathetic. Link the most biased piece of work from that site. I dare you.

          Typical fucking retards getting all worked up because the goons are the best. #yolo

          November 3, 2013 at 7:42 am Reply
          1. Rational EN24 reader

            (Editor’s Note: Alliance Updates are aimed at
            internal audiences and usually are considered the gospel truth by their
            membership but vile propaganda by everybody else. You should definitely
            know this by now. This is a CFC Update from The Mittani.)

            November 3, 2013 at 5:02 pm
          2. yoloswag mad-dog 2020 #yolobra

            That you’re a complete and utter moron. That’s an ALLIANCE UPDATE. Like a SOTA? Those things that are always aimed at the members of the alliance, not the general public. They release these things because they are news, just like they release N3, Solar and TEST SOTAs.

            So basically, you chose a GOONSWARM ALLIANCE UPDATE as an example of biased news reporting? My god that’s embarrassing for you, should have expected as much from EN24 fans though.

            November 3, 2013 at 5:11 pm
          3. Puks


            Written by an IRC member, story changed by a CFC editor, story title changed by a CFC editor, all for rose tinted spin for CFC members. Writer quits TMC.

            November 3, 2013 at 5:58 pm
  2. Billbo

    Min mark 18:50 “Vince is an Asshole” Gee you finally got that memo eh?

    November 2, 2013 at 5:59 pm Reply
  3. Sanchesco

    User joined your channel, User was moved to your channel, User joined your channel User joined your channel, User joined your channel,

    November 2, 2013 at 6:21 pm Reply
    1. lol

      Seriously, how fucking hard is it to turn that shit off before the meeting…

      November 5, 2013 at 12:19 am Reply
  4. Alison King

    Quick evac to stain

    November 2, 2013 at 6:33 pm Reply
  5. Duh

    Just remember N3- this is Vinces fault hahahahahahahaha

    November 2, 2013 at 9:37 pm Reply
  6. Your Mum

    I wonder what side made up this load of rubbish…

    November 3, 2013 at 1:34 am Reply
  7. Yala

    The bullshit in this address is incredible.

    November 3, 2013 at 3:22 am Reply
  8. TEST Grunt

    TL;DR: NC is paranoid as shit about SOLAR.

    November 3, 2013 at 3:47 am Reply
    1. lol

      Stainwagon being helped by the CFC means the entirety of eve is blue, 100k+ people, except N3

      November 3, 2013 at 6:51 pm Reply
      1. YOLO

        Yup, Stainwagon solar BL cfc vs N3 Ncdot/PL pretty much a 3rd of the map against the last 2 3rds.
        Stainwagon will have numbers advantage with 2:1 but that only makes the fights almost equal since N3 side have already been showing that they are killing a lot more against the odds just not holding the field due to the mass against them.

        You could say its cowardice you could say its desperation or you could say its stupidity that Solar Stainwagon BL CFC group up on the premier coalition that likes to bring content to eve.

        N3 and Stainwagon are much alike in fairness both love to fight an always will. Solar is retarded simply because Macteps at the helm and cfc is just carebear safe zone for the hoarde of lemmings that like the game on easy not having to learn anything or be challenged, they’re members enslaved to do mittens bidding, wich is surface to say create a good tern over of rmt etc for cfc leadership.
        Mugs are always going to be played!

        November 3, 2013 at 11:43 pm Reply
        1. Soulxlight

          -cfc is just carebear safe zone for the horde of lemmings that like the game on easy not having to learn anything or be challenged-

          And yet N3 is the coalition with one of their principle fleet doctrines being Ishtars . . .

          November 4, 2013 at 6:15 am Reply
        2. Jara Mulkka

          SOLAR is retarded for trying to beat the shit out of the alliances (NC./PL) that have tried on two occasions to dogpile and evict SOLAR out of their home instead of attacking a coalition (the CFC) which has quite literally done nothing against SOLAR for the longest time now? Well bud, something’s retarded here for sure, but it ain’t SOLAR, me thinks you’ve gone full retard bro.

          What, is SOLAR simply supposed to forget about NC. and PL’s history of aggression towards them and buddy up with them to attack the CFC, as if it’s their sacred moral duty to the EVE universe to help destroy the CFC (conveniently, N3’s enemies)? Since when did NC. or PL ever care about moral duties? Did NC. care about the sacred moral duty of destroying the CFC disease when they abandoned Raiden? And how many times have PL simply fucked off, abandoned their allies or switched to the winning side (especially their history of collusion WITH the CFC) whenever it suited their interests? Where was their/your sacred moral duty to destroy the CFC then? Or how about Nulli? Packing their bags when shit got tough against HBC/CFC? Doesn’t sound like they felt much of a sacred, moral duty to stand their ground at all costs and destroy the CFC. Your hypocrisy is astounding, and fully retarded bud.

          November 5, 2013 at 2:09 am Reply
      2. stainres

        the cfc has 35k and staingwagon has 10k. Even if we blued the entire CFC we’d be nowhere near 100k and as it sits we’ve only blued RZR.

        So 12k characters v. N3s 30000 with cameos from a hundred other CFC here or there. N3 should outnumber us but keep getting their shit pushed in.

        November 4, 2013 at 2:41 am Reply
      3. Jara Mulkka

        Dumbass, Stainwagon are shooting CFC whenever N3 are not on the field. Stainwagon and the CFC are not blue. Only RAZOR has blued SW. N3 is just as big of a blue donut as the CFC is, they both got about 30,000 risk averse nurds.

        November 5, 2013 at 2:12 am Reply
  9. DD-Grunt

    >Stainwagon is not has big as N3 and has less competent FC’s.

    >At the moment n3 feel that Stainwagon outnumber them especially in the early eu timezone.

    Am I the only one who sees contradiction here?

    November 3, 2013 at 5:46 am Reply
    1. Just saying

      The writer of this article is an idiot, and has poor English skills I suspect. In the recording the guy said…. “Right now we expect them to have about 1000 nerds online, and we don’t have that many people online at the moment” He was paraphrasing that quote when he wrote “At the moment n3 feel that Stainwagon outnumber them especially in the early eu timezone”, but he clearly didn’t understand what was being said.

      November 3, 2013 at 6:49 am Reply
      1. flatterpillo

        listen to the state of the coalition, the speaker says both of those things, i am simply writing down what he said. go call him an idiot.

        November 3, 2013 at 12:09 pm Reply
        1. mmmmmm

          He actually doesn’t. Thanks for making be listen to it twice.

          November 3, 2013 at 5:52 pm Reply
          1. An unsubbed N3 guy

            Maybe what the speaker says is: “In theory, we (N3) should be bigger then Stainwagon but, A LOT of our members are not logging in the game atm (for some reason).
            Maybe there is a significant number of N3 dudes like me who are currently un-subbed but…still listed as members of N3.

            November 3, 2013 at 8:37 pm
          2. Just saying

            Yeah, he was paraphrasing, but he didn’t word it right, he should have wrote it like: “At the moment(early eu timezone) n3 feel that Stainwagon outnumber them”

            November 3, 2013 at 8:42 pm
  10. Same old same old

    History repeats itself:
    > Southern and eastern Euro dudes collapse for good fights
    > CFC jumps on fight to ensure leveling the war takes more time and consume both parties resources…
    > South and east have a break from war and turn towards CFC
    > CFC blues more allies and buy some to ensure his isk empire doesnt collapse

    Someone tell me something new

    November 3, 2013 at 7:35 am Reply
  11. stainres

    Remember NCDot, -A- and -DD- are recruiting.

    RUS to -DD-, English speakers to -A-. Make it happen. ^_^

    November 4, 2013 at 2:42 am Reply
  12. ready for this war

    english please

    November 5, 2013 at 2:22 am Reply

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