Now that we’re about a month out from the release of Rubicon, I’d like to start writing about the features in the expansion that I’m personally a fan of.(1)  That starts with a feature that’s probably going to end up being overlooked in the grand scheme of things: the new certificate system.  Thanks to the SOMER Blink thing, the dev-blog in question is already a couple of weeks old.

I myself started playing EVE with friends, some of whom had a good handle on game mechanics, others of whom came into the game with me and didn’t know any more than I did.  As a result, I did a lot of reading of out of game sources (rather sparse at that time).  But when certificates were introduced in late 2008, I found myself at a number of cross-roads in terms of training and I found the certs to actually be a valuable tool for deciding what order to train things in.  Such things were much less precise than they are now; skill queues were still a few months away: once a skill finished training, you had to be around to load up the next one. 

This seems ridiculously primitive to me now, but this was how EVE was.  EFT was around, but it was much harder to manage because you had to plan your skills to come out at times you could actually be on-line to update your training.  That sometimes meant training a quick pile of short skills while you were on-line followed by a longer train once you headed for bed or whatever.

And for this kind of thing, certificates actually seemed quite helpful!  They were just the thing to point to new career paths that you could pick up basic training in quickly.

Only now with the benefit of longer experience in the game can I see how limited and sometimes how silly and wrong many of the existing certificates are.  But the theory is still incredibly sound: “here are the skills that you’re going to need to be good at X,” the game wants to tell you.  It’s EVE… trying to be helpful!

…I know, right?

So when I heard that certs were going to be revamped for Rubicon, I was instantly a fan.  At the summer summit, I was pretty chatty during most sessions but I was particularly chatty for this one.  😉  In particular, I begged and begged to get the specific details of what skills go with what certificates in front of players as soon as possible.  I’m thrilled that CCP Ytterbium and the rest of the team did that.  The forum thread on this feature will take you to a Google spreadsheet that has the details.  And I want to express huge thanks to Ytterbium and the rest of the team for doing this!

If you haven’t already, I urge you to go out and give the spreadsheet a once-over.  It’s not that hard to understand what you’re seeing once you play around with it a little.  And the great thing about this new feature is the players have the opportunity to make sure that these certificates make sense.  That way, all those new players out there that are relying on this information for their early training will make smarter decisions than we made.  If that’s dumbing down the game… guilty as charged.  But it’s dumbing it down in a way that I for one can live with.

Of course, this is a nice step along the road, not the destination.  Sooner or later, we’re going to need corp and/or alliance certificates.  The standard Rote Kapelle Ares fit, for instance, uses auto-cannons.  And our standard Rapier fit only rarely requires target painters and almost never requires weapons.  So for these special cases, it’ll be handy to have certificates as a more specific training guide.  But where we are is a great start.

It’s certainly not one of the flashier features in Rubicon.  But from a long-term perspective, it might end up being one of the more important ones…

More about my thoughts on other upcoming features over the next few days.

(1) As well as the opposite eventually, of course.  I’m afraid that starts with “M” and continues with “arauder.”  But, another time.

– Ripard Teg

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  1. wtf

    didn’t read but is another useless thing

    October 17, 2013 at 4:44 pm Reply
    1. Jot

      Like your pointless, bitter comment. How some players muster the IQ to make it to the login screen utterly escapes me.

      October 17, 2013 at 5:30 pm Reply
      1. wtf

        didn’t read but tested on sisi and if ppl has no IQ , they will love it.

        October 17, 2013 at 6:02 pm Reply
        1. lol

          Judging by your spelling and grammar here, seems like you should absolutely adore it!

          October 17, 2013 at 10:44 pm Reply
    2. Chris

      How is this useless? Maybe if you’re an oldfag to eve it doesn’t matter, but it will significantly help the newer players with their skill training.

      October 17, 2013 at 6:00 pm Reply
  2. charlie

    I’m really looking forward to this, just takes all of the pain out of perfecting a fit and choosing new ships to train for.

    October 17, 2013 at 5:15 pm Reply
  3. Billbo

    How bout you get on those summer minutes before they start being lrrelevant.

    October 17, 2013 at 5:26 pm Reply
    1. Scott Lockwood III

      CCP has them, and has to approve them for release. you’re yelling at the wrong person.

      October 17, 2013 at 6:17 pm Reply
    2. Guest

      Minutes are always irrelevant, because you will get all the news from devblogs anyway. Minutes are basically just a tool for voters to check what “their representatives” asked/didn’task when at CCP.

      October 18, 2013 at 7:57 am Reply
  4. Chris

    I personally have no use for certificates, but I completely support ccps decision to include this in rubicon. It was a long time coming.

    October 17, 2013 at 6:01 pm Reply
  5. guest

    So long CCP don’t try to turn certificates in what Greyscale originally meant for them, then I don’t have any hate towards them. I just don’t want achievements in a sandbox, since those are kind of telling players some accomplishments are more relevant than others.

    October 17, 2013 at 8:21 pm Reply
    1. Enderas

      Think i’ve read in the dev blog that the option to make certificates open to public is gone in rubicon. So there’s no way to check if other people have certain certificates.

      Which i think is one of the issues you have with achievements :) You can’t get denied to x because you don’t have y certificate

      October 18, 2013 at 12:48 pm Reply
  6. Guest

    Just posting saying that I want to congratulate whoever’s job it is to make headline pictures for articles. That is the most dynamic chart I have ever seen.

    And no, I’m not sure if I’m being sarcastic either

    October 18, 2013 at 7:56 am Reply

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