I know, a silly question. We are clearly never going to be “done” with Delve. We come back every year.

But the current campaign seems to be dragging a bit.

Never enough of this though

I realize we haven’t actually been working on Delve all that long, but every siege fleet you go on seems to add another week to your internal time perspective of the campaign.

Not that going out with siege fleet is the absolute worst thing in EVE. You are still part of a team and are doing something that will make a difference of some sort in the mixed up world of null sec sovereignty. And the graphics are kind of cool.

Another Black Ops Jump

But believe me, every defense fleet called up to drive off Pandemic Legion, or whoever else decides to show up for a fight, is a breath of fresh air.

We actually moved our staging base over one system last weekend, hopping from 1DH-SX to F2OY-X just to stop PL from “hobo camping” us all the time. I mentioned in a previous post how a PL pilot was docked up in the station in 1DH, which is NPC owned so anybody can dock up, and then undocking, bubbling the undock, and docking back up. We were apparently done with that and we owned a station just one jump over.

Anyway, it was with some relief that I saw this morning that the sovereignty map had gone mostly yellow for Delve and Period Basis.

Delve Area - Sep. 13, 2013

Delve Area – Sep. 13, 2013

There is still a little patch of TEST in Delve, as well as a system in Period Basis and three more in Querious. Though, since Black Legion and SOLAR FLEET seem to be conquering Querious, I am not sure that we will need to do anything with those three systems.

We will be done soon. Just a few more fleets. And then… what?

As I understand it, Delve will be turned into a vast swathe of rental space for the Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere as space communism harnesses the power of space capitalism to pay for all of the things to which we have begun to take for granted like ship reimbursements and capital ship subsidies.

The Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere is also on the sovereignty map now, up in the north-east of null sec.

Renter's Paradise

Renter’s Paradise

And, judging from Mynnna’s occasional exasperation, there are actually people interested in renting from Goons. It must be the splashy and easy to understand graphic that talented Marne Deville, creator of some of the most memorable propaganda from the war in Fountain, put together.

Quick Guide to Renting

Quick Guide to Renting

You can read more about that in one of the official rental posts in the EVE forums. I am just waiting for the conspiracy theories to start up about the fact that the group running the rental program has decided to call themselves the Rental Management Team (RMT). I am sure that Dinsdale Pirannha is out there feeling vindicated by that naming scheme alone.

So just a few more ops and I hope we will be done with the sovereignty grind and on to something else.

Wilhelm Arcturus

Wilhelm Arcturus, he’s played internet spaceship related games since the early days of MegaWars III, and expects to get the hang of things any day now. He reports on EVE from an individual capsuleer’s point of view at TAGN.


  1. Akrasjel Lanate

    Beacause you will insted treat your renters beter then other alliances( russians, ect.) and won’t make them a buffer zone… oh wait

    September 17, 2013 at 8:21 pm Reply
    1. My Perspective

      Out of all the alliances iv been in, have rented from many -a- etc and been treated like shit. Issues went unresolved for ages.
      The best party we rented from and continue to do so is with Ncdot.
      In the Dotbros war they fought for their lands and ours against significantly outnumbered odds. Granted Elo was the star child, the misconception that BL. Did everything extremely incorrect since BL. Is nothing special, it’s a few specific members that make BL. It is the rest are scrubs from Thorn/ test and other average/shit alliances.
      My point being is it was one of the first times that as a renter we have offered to help and defend space with our protectorates.
      Again when the huge sov drop happened, we wanted to again help secure and retake the space in record time.
      There’s always room for improvement of course, but Ncdot/N3 are by far the best we have rented from.
      Renting from goons, ehh let’s just say their renters look to be meatshield between southern/eastern borders so the rest of cfc can easy mode eve as per usual. Putting the likely scams that will take place aswell I’d not want to rent from goons.
      If something ain’t broke, don’t fix it, will stick with Ncdot/N3.

      September 17, 2013 at 9:39 pm Reply
      1. best_burek

        Even though PL and NC. come off as assholes, I have to say that they are actually the best to rent from.

        September 18, 2013 at 12:18 am Reply
      2. Na

        BL only a few people?. We will see what you have to say, when the time comes.

        Have a wee chat with PL and see how they are fairing versus BL. and BL so I have heard are in easy mode. Just settling in their staging system, so will check your killmails while you assist N3/ :) can’t wait.

        September 18, 2013 at 1:20 am Reply
        1. nc.

          bl vs pl happens often and bl always runs away lol unless they have tons of meatshields on field in which case they just snipe in nados…. bl arnt too impressive they are just all competent fleet members… the likes of which pl and nc. are… with the exception of us having way more fleet members and supers

          September 18, 2013 at 4:27 pm Reply
      3. Random CFC Grunt

        My friend, you ARE a meatshield, you don’t actually think that NCDOT are doing guard duty on the borders of their “empire”? The fact they claimed the space right back after the S2N Citizens disband is purely for profit from people like you (no anoms? I won’t pay you!). You are meatshielding the CSAA’s hidden deep in the dronelands in renter space. Don’t think for a second that NCDOT cares for you, they care for the income you provide (plus the CSAA cover) and absolutely nothing else. I’m not saying that CFC would care for you any more. We probably (surely) wouldn’t. Renter space is always a buffer/crumple zone, the EXPENDABLE space making the actual staging systems/regions that much harder to reach. I was a renter once, renting from a various of slumlords and this was always the case. Other than that, had I been in your place, I’d consider renting from CFC once they open up Delve to renters, purely because that’s a better space than the fucking dronelands (hate drones so much it’s unbelievable). But of course – you won’t because being NCDOT’s bitch works for you and you’re adamant being CFC’s bitch won’t. Have it your way.

        September 18, 2013 at 8:30 am Reply
        1. Nobody's Bitch

          The difference is N3 don’t create alts to farm their own renters out of boredom, CFC on the other hand…well lets just say a renter corp is far safer in N3 space than anywhere controlled by bored Goons who hate the very idea of renters.

          September 18, 2013 at 10:56 am Reply
          1. Random CFC Grunt

            You sure about that? AAA did that, same with WN. The transition period between “we hate renters” to “we hate renters but we love their money” will take time but I think there isn’t a lot of that (the alt thingy) happening. I went on a sightseeing tour across the renter space a couple of days back and they were happily ratting in every system, no neutrals present, so your belief might be a bit exaggerated (maybe NCDOT influence?…) Remember that renters are a great bait for small gangs, and we’d certainly like some of those roaming through vale or delve.

            September 18, 2013 at 1:54 pm
          2. right.

            random cfc lying scum-sucking feltching excuse for a sock-puppet.
            i love you.

            also, -a- never farmed own renters. we farmed uaxdeath’s.
            stain empire dropped our renters, true. but not while we had + status. as for WN, what the fuck are you talking about? i personally made like 5 alts for awoxing, heh. but never our own renters, fuck no. wheres the profit in that?

            CFC on the other hand are retarded enough for that, yes. Another case of pot trying to sway public opinion against kettle, mmm?

            September 19, 2013 at 9:41 am
          3. Random CFC Grunt

            Butthurt much? You are blatantly lying. Add to that the fact when iberians and/or PHEW were hired by Triple shit to camp the Keberz-Agil pipe, so that renters refine in nullsec instead of hisec. That’s about I’ve got to say to you. Oh, and one entity I rented from was not doing that – SOLAR. Other than that you’re full of shit. Toodles :*

            September 19, 2013 at 1:51 pm
      4. bestshot

        please keep telling everyone bl isn’t a threat

        September 18, 2013 at 5:52 pm Reply
  2. In the CFC people are starting to get annoyed with the face that there is no one to kill within 30 jumps from us. So the slow erosion of the CFC is starting to happen.

    September 17, 2013 at 10:07 pm Reply
    1. MrSeb

      I hope that this starts soon. Having big blocks that control half the Universe is the end of fun in EVE.

      September 18, 2013 at 8:22 am Reply
      1. CFC

        We want to destroy the game, remember?

        September 19, 2013 at 2:54 pm Reply
        1. MrSeb

          I do. Your basic need for security and stability has driven you to CFC. But this is not the essence of this game.
          It is conflict that drives the gears in EVE not peace.

          September 19, 2013 at 7:12 pm Reply
    2. some german guy

      dream more.

      you like the 5000000000000000000000000000000000th butthurt publord that said that.

      September 18, 2013 at 9:09 am Reply
    3. Filip Viruk Drab

      then do a staging somewhere near -A-, or somewhere near stain and you’ll have plenty o’ targets :)

      September 18, 2013 at 1:24 pm Reply
      1. well the problem with that is we deploy, then everyone is like oh I want to deploy as well. then we have like half the coalition staging there and then our enemies no longer want to fight so we take their space.

        September 18, 2013 at 4:20 pm Reply
        1. Filip Viruk Drab

          first world problems 😀

          September 18, 2013 at 8:07 pm Reply
          1. lol they really are

            September 19, 2013 at 4:56 am
        2. d

          Dumbass, CFC has squad deployments which those squads can fit upto 130ppl only, unless youre saying a coalition deployment but thats basicly a war declaration

          September 19, 2013 at 2:52 pm Reply
          1. poor troll be trolling

            September 19, 2013 at 5:10 pm
    4. xxxxx

      Kick exe.

      September 18, 2013 at 9:05 pm Reply
  3. Uncle_Bob

    Just remember that renters go under the bus first!

    September 17, 2013 at 11:42 pm Reply
  4. DubbaYooArr

    These giant renter empires are going to get boring fast for the lords who have no one to shoot on their entire ‘hemisphere’ of the Eve Universe. Yes, renters are good for getting people into null but having giant blue zones is a boring and bleak prospect.

    September 17, 2013 at 11:49 pm Reply
    1. Chib

      Serentiy meet tranquility

      September 18, 2013 at 5:14 am Reply
      1. Ur Stupid

        Please CCP, please.

        September 19, 2013 at 12:01 pm Reply
    2. Bang Bang

      What do you mean by “no one to shoot”. We’ve got you, and every other pub lord in EvE.

      September 18, 2013 at 6:59 am Reply
  5. some german guy

    Meh , your bitching about “nonone to shoot” is pointless.
    Somebody from the CFC will get reset soon enough anways. Because thats how it goes…

    Shit we have too many blues . Reset the worst alliance in the coalition and farm them.
    Plus we have the locals in NPC Fountain and Pure Blind … and Syndicate to have some mid-size small gang PVP with.

    FW Space is not too far either

    Plus Jump Bridges….

    Stop beeing delusional scrublords please.
    If you want PVP you will find it.

    September 18, 2013 at 9:13 am Reply
  6. CFC are Really Really Dumb

    Wow CFC line members are so stupid it’s unbelievable. There is no one in EvE who will PvP with the CFC at any time in the future. Not because the CFC are good or have “won” but because they are incompetent and stupid like sheep. No one wants to fight 100 v 1 and no one is going to. No one wants to fight in 99% TIDI and only the CFC is stupid enough to play EvE in a way that leads to that. Wake up CFC stupid line members how much sov grinding are you going to do before you realize you have no choice but for the CFC to fight itself, or for your members to all leave EvE though boredom. I am one of EvEs elite PvPers, I can actually play the game well and don’t need overwhelming numbers to fight. I have enough spare isk to buy a titan and have over 100 faction fit PVP ships. What do you stupid people think you are going to “win” against players like myself? I can literally do anything in EvE and if you think you are going to PvP people in EvE like myself at odds off 100 to 1 because you are so incompetent and stupid that you need to play that way, or actually think playing that way is fun, you really are deluded.

    September 18, 2013 at 9:28 am Reply
    1. Solai

      This was the most entertaining EN24 comment I’ve read in a while. It’s just… so perfect..
      The only thing it lacks is the usual reference to RMT.

      September 18, 2013 at 10:37 am Reply
      1. BS

        And very true too. The only winning side is the goon dictatorship, directors etc. All the grunts are too stupid to find fun in eve by themsefs. They are told what to do and what fun is.

        September 18, 2013 at 4:26 pm Reply
        1. The Truth Hurts

          Very True indeed.

          September 18, 2013 at 4:31 pm Reply
      2. xxxxx

        I think he got a little ahead of himself talking about how elite he thinks he is and forgot to throw in the standard RMT rant. Next time!

        September 18, 2013 at 6:06 pm Reply
    2. Mad Fanny

      This comment is going in my scrapbook.

      September 18, 2013 at 1:32 pm Reply
    3. xxxxx

      The tears in this comment make grinding all that sov worth it. I thank you.

      September 18, 2013 at 2:43 pm Reply
    4. CFC

      So basicly what youre saying all the coalitions are stupid because the CFC attacks and the defender choses to defend it and the result is 99% tidi or the defender can just drop sov make it easy for the CFC ^^

      September 19, 2013 at 2:49 pm Reply
    5. kitten roars

      What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo

      September 21, 2013 at 2:55 am Reply
  7. ffs

    sick of ppl taking regions just to rent out, its a very bad direction for eve. You take space you should be made to live in it, prosper in it or lose it by default.

    September 18, 2013 at 9:29 am Reply
    1. Daisai

      Sandbox, people can do what they want with it.

      September 18, 2013 at 2:32 pm Reply
      1. ffs

        The sandbox owners can change the rules too. Hope they do. :)

        September 18, 2013 at 9:55 pm Reply
        1. Daisai

          If they do they might make it stop being a sandbox.
          Thats the problem in managing a game like eve, because there are so many easy solutions in fixing null sec or anything for that matter.
          However most of these solutions make the game stop from being a sandbox.

          September 18, 2013 at 11:02 pm Reply
    2. Ur Stupid

      There is a lot of un-used space. The moons simply do not give enough income anymore due to the tech nerf and r64 rebalance. Add the two together, and renting is a good idea. Besides, there is a lot of renter tears to be collected. The bottom-up income model is definitely better than the top-down.

      September 19, 2013 at 11:57 am Reply
  8. Kern

    Be proud of being a CFC grunt. shooting structures with Stealth Bombers…. biggest blob in Eve and they dare not to use capitals… really… glad im not in CFC… i would die… but be proud if you are :-)

    September 18, 2013 at 11:18 am Reply

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