Some wormhole alliances preach one thing to the Eve community and practice the opposite. During April 2013, “Operation Patty Cake” was launched in the home system of Transmission Lost. Wormhole forces from two distinct sides fought, content was created, and an enormous amount of tears from the side taking heavy losses ensued.

These nourishing clear drops of virtual life-nectar centered around one of the largest fights in wormhole space to date. Many thoughts were shared on how all alliances living in wormhole space should not invade or remove other “PVP” alliances from wormhole systems, and how many on the disadvantaged side deemed it cowardly and sub-par to participate in these actions against another. Many conversations were almost entirely lead by the wormhole alliance Kill It With Fire, starting and participating in six threads and almost three hundred individual posts across several forums presenting these positions to the community with great zeal:

Before I start, I want to make it 100 percent clear. I am in no way speaking for Hard Knocks or any other corp or alliance that took part in the defense of TLost or my home system in December. I am here as a simple wormholer wanting the opinions of other WHers, or K-space dwellers, on the recent events in W-Space.

As you all know there has been a lot of teaming up recently in W-space on one side of some dispute or the other. While I personally see the need for it given the current state of WH politics, I am not 100 percent happy with it. Don’t get me wrong, I am very grateful for the guys who came out during the HK invasion and would gladly put my caps on the line for someone else’s hole. I just feel that if just ONE of the groups that invaded us attacked alone, we wouldn’t have needed to call for backup. The final fight for that invasion would have looked something like 50 v 30 with us having a massive capital advantage. (Not disrespecting either groups that attacked btw, you attacked with what you assumed were sufficient numbers.)

The same can be said for the TL invasion. Its been said that polarized were the brains behind this OP. What would have happened if only Polarized attacked TL and our side didn’t form up a massive fleet to try and roll for holes? Would Polarized still have been successful?

Blue lists are something that every group refuses to use. The proof of this can be seen every time we form up for some kind of op. You will see us on a kill together one week, and the next, we end up killing 15 billion in caps and a small tech 3 fleet of the same people.

What is the opinion of the standard John Q WHer?

As for me I personally dont like huge blobs of people… However I know that they are necessary. Any time there is an invasion, the attackers usually bring a much larger force than is needed. This causes the defenders to call on their Bros from other holes (I know it doesn Rhyme shut up). Sometimes we succeed, sometimes we fail. I only question the necessity of forming up more than tripple the numbers of the group you are attacking when you decide to invade. Note that I only personally list attackers because the defensive groups only form up when we hear that there is a possible major fight to be had.

Then there is bob. What does he think about our form ups. Is he angry that we form up to fight a stronger enemy thus diluting our victory? Does he then smile as the other side team up to slay the mighty beast? Or is he simply happy that the blood of the WHer is spilt? Does he choke on the blood easily poured from an open wound? Or does he simply drink it all up and savor in the taste? SSC might be able to answer this one the best. Father Herrbert I look to you for guidance in these matters. (Sorry bert, couldnt resist)

[Original Post]

Fast-forward to September, a wonderful time of the year where the air starts to crisp in the northern hemisphere, leaves drop, and an alliance in wormhole space tends to die by fire. This time around Kill It With Fire is actually bringing the burn to wormhole alliance R.E.P.O., in exactly the same manner they were ideologically opposed to just a few short months ago. Overwhelming numbers from a six hundred player alliance vs an under three hundred defending force from R.E.P.O. certainly does not seem to show much concern over fair odds that Kill It With Fire have preached about in the past with such strength. Should we expect other alliances to join in the fray? You can bet your furry little batphone ass. Rumors have it several mercenary alliances are already involved for pay on both sides and are planning a series of counter-attacks.

From a neutral perspective, Kill It With Fire is not only using the same methods they spoke so loudly against, and clearly have planned this move well in advance, but they are encouraging the community to take sides once again with themselves as the instigator. The question is: how will wormhole space react to this move? Will they lash out to hold the principles so widely encouraged only four months ago, or will they sit back and watch the show?

At times, wormhole space is truly the wild west of Eve, where high-brow point of views are only valid until your opponent turns his or her back on you.

Max Leadfoot, Executor – Disavowed

Disavowed Mercenary Alliance accepts contracts in wormhole space. In an effort to better serve you and your interests, we accept cash, tears, and exotic dancers as payment for services.


  1. Mr Twinkie

    Wormholers… Jews with guns thinking they’re elite pvp

    September 9, 2013 at 4:55 pm Reply
    1. ScaReMoNgeRinG

      Null Pilots think they elite PVP because they can fleet numbers and hot drop them into opt range and escalate the fight to the point were its not even pvp anymore its just like a pve Op but sure …..all hail the blue ball…

      September 9, 2013 at 6:40 pm Reply
      1. WHsarejustnullwithoutlocal

        As a wormholer, I relax to 50man fleetfights, pressing f1 from time to time and get dem KMs coming. Sometimes I just assign sentries and go scanning on another account.

        September 10, 2013 at 12:29 am Reply
        1. Regular WH Guy!

          As just a regular wormhole guy I think kill it with fire needs to die!

          September 10, 2013 at 10:48 pm Reply
  2. StarfleetCommander

    IF there is a fight im sure people will come lol, Its a fight.

    September 9, 2013 at 5:10 pm Reply
  3. ForgotPants

    You should read your own articles sometime. You quote someone who starts off with, “Before I start, I want to make it 100 percent clear. I am in no way speaking for Hard Knocks or any other corp or alliance that took part in the defense of TLost or my home system in December. I am here as a simple wormholer wanting the opinions of other WHers, or K-space dwellers, on the recent events in W-Space.”

    Then you go on to post, “This time around Kill It With Fire is actually bringing the burn to wormhole alliance R.E.P.O., in exactly the same manner they were ideologically opposed to just a few short months ago.”

    No hable ingles?

    Also, if a 300 man alliance cannot even field a fleet of 50 people in proper ships to defend themselves…well that’s just bad. KILL fleet of about 100ish people entered the system including caps but there were generally around 50-70 people online at any time. That’s not really overwhelming odds.

    September 9, 2013 at 5:20 pm Reply
    1. stierkobb

      Seems like Max does not understand the concept of quotes.

      September 9, 2013 at 5:43 pm Reply
      1. ScaReMoNgeRInG

        Or the logistics of a WH alliance getting to a certain WH to defend it from a invasion

        September 9, 2013 at 6:33 pm Reply
        1. blackbrock

          you could try all living in the same system like you’re not pubbies

          September 9, 2013 at 10:40 pm Reply
          1. Craggus

            So you want our fleets being 40+ on a regular basis?

            September 10, 2013 at 1:24 am
          2. Gary Bell

            LOL DEERPP^^^

            September 10, 2013 at 12:37 pm
    2. Butthurt by logic

      Pilots make up corporations, which make up alliances. It is quite silly for tons of people to sit back and say “I am only speaking for myself”, while they all say the same thing. I’m sorry, but this is not a pharmaceutical commercial and you do not get a free pass by having a disclaimer on each and every ridiculous thing you happen to say.

      September 9, 2013 at 11:41 pm Reply
      1. ForgotPants

        Actually, if you had used a little common sense, you would have realized that when this was posted, HK was not part of KILL.

        Also, I am a standard member of the corp who joined a couple months ago. I hereby announce that HK is moving to high sec because we love level 4 missions.

        I hope I get quoted **fingers crossed**

        September 10, 2013 at 9:51 am Reply
    3. sadsada

      “Also, if a 300 man alliance cannot even field a fleet of 50 people in proper ships to defend themselves…well that’s just bad. KILL fleet of about 100ish people entered the system including caps but there were generally around 50-70 people online at any time. That’s not really overwhelming odds.”

      it seemed to be a problem when polarized did it :) ur funny

      September 10, 2013 at 4:19 pm Reply
  4. The Real Hole

    Kill It With Fire should be burned out of the WH they live in. We have enough problems getting targets, we don’t need amateurs running around trying to burn out other amateurs. This reminds me of a fight back in high school where a retarded kid fought the wimpy kid. Sure, it’s entertaining… but at some point there really isn’t much of a point.

    September 9, 2013 at 11:47 pm Reply
    1. Tis

      If you were as baller as you seem to think you are, and us as crap as you say, then you wouldn’t be posting anonymously. Suck it up, buttercup.

      FYI every corp in KILL lives in its own hole, a fact which any relevant wormhole corp is aware of. You’re welcome to try for any of them.

      Can’t really disagree with us being retards though…

      September 10, 2013 at 5:25 am Reply
  5. jerzii

    EN24 = eve’s version of FOX

    Just to be clear Max, are you comparing ONE ALLIANCE (yes we’re bigger by x2 in member count) verse ONE ALLIANCE, to a COALITION of (Polarized, Exiled Ones, Ash Alliance, The Last Chancers, REPO, The Nameless Alliance, Existential Anxiety) verse ONE CORP in TL?! Max was part of the large Coalition in this fight.

    Also – for someone who wasnt even there, wow are you sore Max. Plain and simple, you **** someone off enough, no matter how big or small yours or their corp are. The will try and come kill you. This was that case. BUT – they redeemed themselves and were not evicted.

    REPO = Still in WH Space

    September 9, 2013 at 11:54 pm Reply
    1. Holy What?

      It is funny as on a inside track, while you were shooting REPO, there was talk about invading your home system to TEACH you a lesson

      September 10, 2013 at 10:35 pm Reply
  6. Jordan Geldart

    I don’t see the problem?

    All the KILL Corps have run into R.E.P.O over the last few months and every time they ran and hid. Even when they had superior numbers off they went to hide behind POS shields. They were told over and over that if they want to live in a C5 they must fight or face eviction.

    The no eviction unwritten rule came about because of a lack of good fights. If R.E.P.O wont put up the good fight they aren’t covered.

    Anyway, we invaded them and they did the normal run and hide. The only problem was this time we weren’t leaving. All POS into reinforced with zero resistance.

    We really hoped R.E.P.O would try and fight back so we laid a trap. We got people to slowly log off and sit at the login screen. From R.E.P.Os point of view it looked like we were slowly heading to bed. They set up a big gank to wipe out our hole control. They executed really well, but weren’t expecting us to instant log on. We lost a few caps, they lost a load. BUT THEY FOUGHT. GFs were called in local and the diplomats started to do their thing. A few hour later we started to leave.

    R.E.P.O gave the good fight they should have been giving all along. E-honour restored. They get to keep their hole. As a line member I want to say thank you to all the guys in R.E.P.O who kept it classy after their loss, I know on our comms people were really impressed.

    September 10, 2013 at 12:02 am Reply
    1. Craggus

      Hopefully they will start putting up a fight. R.E.P.O. did stay cool when it was all said and done. Keep it up R.E.P.O.!

      September 10, 2013 at 12:14 am Reply
    2. Daníel Sigurson

      What exactly does good fight mean? from what i understand what you guys think it means is just feed you kills even if people are outnumbered by you like hell.

      I’m not in repo but im in a smallish c5 alliance that needs to disengage fairly often because we just don’t have the numbers, unless you guys are logging in only 10% of your numbers then i don’t see how repo is outnumbering you ever unless they have some crazy activity numbers. I’ve always thought this picture described the different spaces fairly well but it feels like wh space is becoming more and more like 0.0 in that you feed kills to the big alliances to “keep them happy” and if you don’t they come and either force you to feed them kills or burn you to the ground

      September 10, 2013 at 12:56 am Reply
      1. sorany

        we honor T1 cruiser arranged fights all the time, if you are cool we are cool.

        September 10, 2013 at 1:00 am Reply
      2. Qaldramas

        Shout out to the cool guys we met this weekend in R.E.P.O.’s static, Wormbro and their alliance, who came at our wh guarding fleet and died. We then ended up talking with them quite a bit. In the end, they gave us some stront and we agreed to frigate or cruiser battle with them when we meet next, for the fun of it. Guys like them are a great example of the goodfights mentality on a smaller scale. I hope that, should we meet you in a wormhole someday, you and your corp mates are like that.

        September 10, 2013 at 1:05 am Reply
      3. Gary Bell

        LOL… You do relize that dotlan gives you the numbers of characters in an alliance not the actual players.. Esp in WH space where everyone has 20 alts.. So yeah if i remember right there was about 100 vs 80 if that.. so derp learn facts k thanks

        September 10, 2013 at 12:35 pm Reply
        1. Jonnyboy

          And kill is the only alliance with alts?

          it was closer to 20 vs 70

          I guess it’s ok though because its alliance vs alliance, wonder if this is the tune you guys would be using if goonswarm or some other huge alliance invaded you. you guys are basically forcing people to recruit so they can compete against you.

          September 10, 2013 at 2:44 pm Reply
          1. KILL

            this wasnt ment to be a fair fight, this was payback for never bringing the fight when we have low numbers

            September 10, 2013 at 2:52 pm
          2. jagone

            REPO reused to fight for the last week, even when it was a fair fight. They are lucky they didn’t lose their hole just on that point alone. The WH community doesn’t want people living out here that refuse to fight. Everyone in the W space community knows this so why Max Leadfoot is writing such trash, I think many of us are at a loss for words.

            September 10, 2013 at 3:53 pm
          3. Holy what

            You keep speaking of this wormhole community. Funny really, there are tons of groups, corps and alliance’s that dont share your idea of wh community and whats right and wrong. Most of them little guys rightly dont give a hoot about crap like that……………..

            September 12, 2013 at 10:55 pm
          4. Bob's Prophet
            October 6, 2013 at 5:13 am
          5. sorany

            remember when -A- wanted to roam over the W-Space…. how’d that work out for them?

            September 10, 2013 at 7:44 pm
    3. Holy what?

      Is there a rule, cause if I can remember, this is a shoot or be shot game. This would also be evictions,invasions, or any other play style anyone chooses. I live with rules in life not in a shoot em up game…………….

      September 10, 2013 at 10:32 pm Reply
      1. Jordan Geldart

        Up to you really.

        Most wormhole corps have come to this unofficial agreement. You are welcome to get a C5/C6 and ignore the rule. No one can make you. On the other hand if you upset the locals they will just kick you out.

        Its that whole risk V reward thing

        September 11, 2013 at 7:11 am Reply
  7. hard knocks

    offical HK video of this operation:

    September 10, 2013 at 12:17 am Reply
  8. Qaldramas

    Come now, there are so many things you could write against KILL and co. but you chose one of the few things that is simply not the case. You could complain that we all are:
    -Have more isk than sense
    -Terrible at this game
    -Undisciplined in general fleets
    -Usually in some inebriated state

    But no, you pick ‘hypocrite’ as your article’s focus. I think you did a relatively decent job of explaining the wormhole consensus reached a few months back – give good fights or die. That was what prompted this invasion – R.E.P.O. had been denying us good fights (including turning down an engagement where they would’ve had the advantage just a day or two before this all began when R.E.P.O.’s home wh and Hard Knocks Inc’s home wh connected.) We then stuck to this throughout the invasion. We reinforced their towers to get a point across and when they finally fought we were able to open diplomatic negotations to get them to see the error of their ways. With those negotiations secured (including the price of a Rorqual) we then let them go. This was not an eviction as nobody was evicted. It was hoped to never have to get to the stage of being an eviction (those are way too much work, to be honest, see point above about us being lazy.) Fortunately, the point was made and this *invasion* (note, not eviction) went off more-or-less as planned with the end goal of making R.E.P.O. see the light and agree to give goodfights realized.

    September 10, 2013 at 12:18 am Reply
    1. loltastic

      Funny, you folks invade wormholes with 10 people and evict them…Good fights involve 30-40+ vs 10, am I right? Good show m8.

      September 10, 2013 at 2:41 pm Reply
      1. KILL

        who got evicted? cause it wasnt REPO.

        and if you just fight us when we have normal numbers , then you wont get our blob. if you reference our KB and do your homework on us, you would know we have small gang skirmishes, and its sad null entities these days give a better time then these whining WH groups.

        what i’m saying is, dont make us blob you!

        September 10, 2013 at 2:51 pm Reply
        1. stierkobb


          September 11, 2013 at 12:23 pm Reply
      2. sorany

        I am confused where this “10” number you seem to be getting is coming from….

        September 10, 2013 at 7:43 pm Reply
  9. Hidden

    #42 Posted: 2013.09.09 23:43 | Report | Edited by: Hidden Fremen

    Here’s the crazy thing about hypocrisy; TL actually gave fights. REPO, not so much. You and your courage army invade TL. They gave you a good fight. You burn it down, anyway. We decide to invade REPO. They eventually gave us a good fight. We left them alone. I’m not sure, but I think we’re better than you in, at least, that respect. In fact, not only did REPO earn their home, they could possibly give better engagements in the future.

    Does this not make wspace happy? A reimagined alliance MO? You, Max, and your self-righteous wall of wail, have not yet earned a motherfucking thing

    September 10, 2013 at 1:00 am Reply
    1. Holy What?

      See there’s the promblem. TL didnt put up a fight. There friends tried wich was more then TL did. lol

      September 10, 2013 at 10:27 pm Reply
      1. Hidden

        I’m pretty sure they threw ships at the 200+ circlejerk fleet in the end…

        September 11, 2013 at 4:42 am Reply
        1. Holy What?

          Nope, blew there ships in pos, moros, bahl you know that expensive stuff lol

          September 12, 2013 at 10:51 pm Reply
          1. Tis

            I was there, timing was bad but several TL caps died on that hole. Sooooo… fuck off you little pissant know nothing anon poster. After the fight stuff that people weren’t around to fly got SDed, sure. No point giving you circle jerking fuckwits kills for nothing when they’d already made their attempt to break out.

            September 15, 2013 at 3:36 am
          2. Hidden

            “I’m pretty sure they threw ships at the 200+ circlejerk fleet in the end…” I’m talking about the aggressors.

            September 21, 2013 at 2:51 am
  10. G0hme

    Haha EN24 shows yet again to be waaaay behind the news…. Fight happend, because of that REPO was left to live another day in their system. Pro EVE journalism. Max Leadfoot still believing he is relevant, how cute.

    September 10, 2013 at 1:13 am Reply
  11. abc123

    After reading this and the comments it confirms what most have said in the past. Worm Hole LOSERS come out – sucker punch someone and brag they are elite PVP’ers. Then run back to there shit hole to farm ISK and feel good about them self. And now the two daycare weenies are having a scruff about who’s not bring their Tonka trucks to the sand box to play. REALLY?
    I use to call CVA and there pets Jerry’s Kids. I sincerely apologize CVA and Pets. I was wrong. But after this article, you worm hole LOSERS take the cake. Please stay in your little crap holes. The rest of EVE will thank you for it. Seriously.

    September 10, 2013 at 4:53 am Reply
    1. Hidden

      Anonymous rage posting. Lol?

      September 10, 2013 at 5:42 am Reply
    2. Just Checkin'

      Then why don’t you invade a WH since you are so good and strong?
      Or are you afraid because you know that your blob tactics can’t work in the WH space?(No Cyno for you)
      Also, can we have a bit more info? From what I understand its a 1v1 (which I guess it will change soon) and not a many vs one fight. Are the numbers equal? No it’s 2:1 (which I don’t think so since there are alts from both sides) but still it is one alliance versus another alliance and not one coalition versus an other..

      September 10, 2013 at 9:00 am Reply
      1. HipHop

        i can arrange this faggot, we can come with 200 proteuses and all what u gonna dois watching, the point is [ for what] cause u cant fight this and i dont want to shoot your 100 poses

        September 10, 2013 at 3:16 pm Reply
        1. Just Checkin'

          Is it that you don’t want to shoot or is it that once you are trapped in the WH you won’t be able to do anything but either escape to an other WH or slowly watch your fleet die?

          I don’t know, you just seem unable to do any warfare unless you have your capitals and your supers ready to blob, which is not something bad but you just can’t do that in a WH

          September 10, 2013 at 3:41 pm Reply
        2. sorany

          I would thouroughly love this as would the rest of wormhole space. not sure if you are aware but nullsec corps don’t exactly have the best record here and most won’t even dare go near a wormhole let alone jump in….

          but hey, you bring your tech 3 blob and we’ll blap the shit of out them just the same as anyone else.

          September 10, 2013 at 7:41 pm Reply
    3. Gary Bell

      You dont farm in your own hole derp… learn to WH carebear

      September 10, 2013 at 12:29 pm Reply
  12. Andy

    I wonder what the fuck does this have to do with you? Trying to become relevant ?

    September 10, 2013 at 6:16 am Reply
  13. Rob, the Blood God

    Leadfoot, everyone’s favorite meddling douchebag.

    September 10, 2013 at 7:16 am Reply
  14. W-space used to kick ass

    Guys come on. You say you create content. It’s shit content. You spend a week at least, planning, moving assests, rolling holes. Then you stay staring at login screens and get quick fight that you know you will win because of superior numbers. It’s F1 clicking in T3 bricks with a known outcome.

    HK than derped on the way back loosing billions in lowsec… is it worth all the time for a quick brawl?
    I only see a bully attitude that corps / alliances with less numbers can’t do shit against.

    September 10, 2013 at 11:32 am Reply
    1. Gary Bell

      Im pretty sure they had fun derping in lowsec considering I remember something along the lines of FOR GOD AND COUNTRY being screamed on comms as they leeroyed into the cyno like idiots.. so yeah whine tear.. 07070707

      September 10, 2013 at 12:28 pm Reply
    2. Qaldramas

      I think you are closer to the point than you realize. Yes, this invasion was not about getting a fight right then. It was a lot of work to set up. It was not an eviction, just an invasion. Also, yes, we did whelp into lowsec pirates on the way home.

      So with those points in mind, you should be left wondering why we would possibly do all this (especially given how lazy we are.) The reason is, as already stated, to teach R.E.P.O. a lesson, to get them to see how denying fights had truly angered the wh community (and how giving fights makes wh living more enjoyable.) With that objective secured, we left.

      So yes, if this was 1) a true eviction 2) a search for an epic fight or 3) a bored weekend’s work then yes, it was a failure (and a ridiculous one at that.) It was not, however, ever meant to be any of those things.

      September 10, 2013 at 2:46 pm Reply
    3. sorany

      eh we didn’t really derp as much as we just didn’t care. We also didn’t choose to wait at logins for a quick fight, you have to understand R.E.P.O. had to make a break for it at some point and we ended up guessing it right.

      also keep in mind that one of their corps (out of two) decided yet again to panzee up and not try to save themselves or put up any resistance. so the reason the numbers were soo skewed is partially their own fault and coincidentally the exact reason we started this in the first place, ironic.

      secondly, yes we spent a great long time planning, but i took the whole weekend off as many other did and we laughed and joked, and had some of the best interactions within the alliance because we had a prolonged engagement with the rest of our friends who we really don’t get to see often enough. Really for me evictions are about all of the funny weird stuff that happens, last time we had a ridiculous orca wander 300k off the pos, this time we stole a moros that drifted out and blew up a 10bil thanny. good times are had.

      September 11, 2013 at 7:11 pm Reply
      1. Snargle

        “Didn’t want that X anyways”

        September 20, 2013 at 5:26 pm Reply
  15. heh.....

    It only looks like one alliance fought another alliance and lost. Wasn’t kill it mad because a blue blob of many different alliances attacked them? and even when they defended they were removed from their hold, which isn’t really the mantra of W-space(if you fight for you’re space even if you lose, you won’t be removed). Did R.e.p.o get evicted? was there multiable alliances blued up to evict them? It looks like apples and oranges to me.

    September 10, 2013 at 3:44 pm Reply
  16. Regular WH guy

    As just a regular wormhole guy I think kill it with fire needs to die!

    September 10, 2013 at 10:54 pm Reply
    1. Andy

      You’re welcome to try, but you need to be a lot better than regular to do it :)

      September 11, 2013 at 2:55 am Reply
  17. Gunnar Williams

    There needs to be more conflict in WH space, evict whoeva you want then they just get pissed and come back in greater numbers too.

    September 10, 2013 at 11:54 pm Reply
    1. Max

      Probably not, it’s more likely it would just turn into a big blue ball, and the only fights would be people outside of the blueball. Just like nullsec was two years ago, and is now.

      September 11, 2013 at 12:26 am Reply
      1. Gunnar Williams

        Yes, instead lets just stage fights and roll for each other shoot each other then go home. woo hoo.

        September 21, 2013 at 10:58 pm Reply
  18. NoTech

    Hmm Strange KM, the Thanatos has 625 Calibration points used of 400 ?? Legit looks differently.

    September 11, 2013 at 6:19 pm Reply
    1. And?

      Different how? 3x t2 trimarks fit on a carrier.

      September 12, 2013 at 7:36 am Reply
  19. The H0Neybadger


    September 11, 2013 at 8:22 pm Reply
  20. sigh

    An post that tries to make WH pvp revelent in eve.
    And if the big sov blocks really wanted WH space for themselves only a fool would think that the tiny pissant WH alliances could stop them

    September 12, 2013 at 6:25 pm Reply
    1. Economics

      Nullsec income is top-down; w-space is entirely bottom-up. Why would nullsec CEOs want to move?

      September 13, 2013 at 1:30 am Reply
    2. AFK Cloaker

      Check your history. Nullseccers tried to invade wh space at the end of 2012, and got thoroughly trounced. Since then they have not been back ;).

      Also why would 0.0 leaders want to move away from easymode moon goo income?

      September 15, 2013 at 4:48 am Reply
      1. cybus

        actually they realised that if they make alt corps and/or just move into uninhabited systems quietly they can live there quite happily.

        September 20, 2013 at 11:33 pm Reply
  21. Bob

    What kind of self-indulging bullshit is this? First of all there was no actual ‘fight’ in the attempted TL eviction but rather a curb stomping exercise, secondly try and get your head out of your ass and actually pay attention to what happened and why.

    September 25, 2013 at 1:47 pm Reply

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