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“Call
it mental toughness. Call it ‘Too dumb to die’. Call it zombification.
Whatever.  -A- have an annoying way of not knowing when they’re beaten. 
You can knock them down, shoot them execution-style, knife
the body a dozen times, rub their collective face in the dirt and
dog-shit, and walk away from their mangled corpse with their lunch money
jingling in your pocket while you whistle tunes from ‘Aida’.  A week
later -A- will be back, nailing the dismembered body of your beloved
family pet to your front door.”

            – Fiddler’s Edge, The Edge Awards

You’ll recall that last week I wrote in response to a Ripard Teg post that, while I am not given to gloating, I am not above the odd victory dance when the occasion warrants it.

You may consider Against All Authorities’ (-A-) recent return from the dead such an occasionous occasion.

Now, if you’ll recall, way back in the spring of 2012, there occurred a gradual escalation of commitment in Delve by various parties that resulted in a pan-nullsec clash for control of that region. The final step in said escalation was the entrance of Clusterfuck Coalition (CFC) into the conflict on the side of Pandemic Legion and Test Alliance Please Ignore against Nulli Secunda, Raiden and -A-.  CFC’s leadership pitched this as an all-in, no-quarter-given war aimed not merely at defeating the enemy, but eliminating their capacity to pose a future threat. As The Mittani® stated at the time:

“We – and ‘We’ means ‘Everyone’ – are going to Delve, and it will burn.
No mercy, no respite, no ‘freeports’, just brutal conquest – conquest
which will not stop until this threat to our bloc is extinguished. If
that means that we must set all of Catch on fire to remind this ex-NC,
ex-IT, ex-BoB excrement of their proper place in the universe, so be
it.” 

The Southerners, already outnumbered by Test Alliance and PL, were swamped in the subsequent tidal wave of players from CFC joining the fight against them, and were quickly driven from Delve. The war followed the retreating forces South into Catch and the domains of the Southern Coalition (SoCo). By October the Southern Coalition, which had long supported -A- during times of trouble, itself began to unravel. A schism within Red Overlord (ROL), which was at the time providing some of the most effective resistance to the Northerners, resulted in the collapse of ROL and the defection of certain member corporations to the newly formed Darkness of Despair, which was aligned with the PL, Test and the Honey Badger Coalition (HBC) cause.

Resistance from the Southern alliances collapsed shortly thereafter, and -A- took refuge in NPC nullsec.

Now, -A- had retreated to NPC nullsec during previous wars only to return and retake its old space from the interlopers. However, in those cases -A- had managed a planned and well ordered retreat that maintained the alliance’s organizational integrity and kept its combat assets largely intact. In this case -A- had been routed. Its membership’s morale was at low ebb, its supporting coalition was in tatters, and the monolithic forces of the HBC and the CFC stood firmly in the way of any return to Catch.

As 2012 drew to a close, -A- remained in NPC nullsec exile and what had been a trickle of defections to other alliances slowly became a persistent stream. On January 6, Russian Thunder Squad, who’d been with -A- since 2007 and, along with Rage and Terror, were regarded as the most critical of -A-‘s corporations, announced their departure for Darkness of Despair.

With that, the writing appeared to be on the wall for -A-.

As bloggers and podcasters closed the books on 2012, eulogies were being written for Against All Authorities, many of them dismissive and unkind.  The common wisdom among the EVE media was that -A- was as dead, and their failscade was foregone conclusion.  However, as February turned to March, the flight of members from -A- slowed at around the 1,000 membership mark, and then bottomed out in the mid-800s. At that point the common wisdom in the blogosphere shifted somewhat. Pundits stated that, while -A- might not have failscaded outright, it was still effectively dead. -A-, they said, was spent as a sov nullsec power, incapable of taking and holding space or driving events. They were, its eulogizers held, a hollowed out shell that just happened to wear the -A- emblem.

As I wrote last January, -A- has been prematurely eulogized so often in the last few years you’d
think they had a Summer home on the River Styx and rented jet-skis from
Charon. -A-‘s enemies and critics have an appalling habit of walking
way from -A-‘s ‘mostly dead’ body, assuming that ‘all dead’ will follow
in due course. Having seen this scenario play out before I counseled those celebrating -A-‘s demise to caution.  Wait and see, said I.

And sure enough, as Spring gave way to Summer, there were signs of life in the cemetery as -A- once again clawed their way from the grave. By June, -A- had rebuilt a large portion of its membership. Of particular interest was the addition of some solid sov warfare corporations, including Anzac Alliance, which spoke to -A-‘s long term plans. By mid-August -A- had quietly returned from NPC nullsec to occupy the C45-9Ya constellation in Feythobolis. Using that base as a springboard, -A- began re-occupying systems in Catch, taking possession of systems in the 9HXQ-G constellation in Catch from The Initiative as late as yesterday. GE-8JV in that constellation, generally regarded as -A-‘s traditional home system, was among the systems taken.

It’s certainly likely that -A- is getting by with a little help from its friends. This is, after all, the age of the coalition and there are very few alliances that can take and hold sovereign nullsec without some backup. And there may be a degree of defensive indifference involved in the recent take-overs, but there’s no doubt that -A- is taking Catch systems by force of arms.   There are many questions that remain to be answered, but on one point there is no doubt:

Against All Authorities is undead again. 

– Mord Fiddle

About the Author: Mord Fiddle’s writings are an invitation to high tea in a world of rave parties. His readers gather at http://fiddlersedge.blogspot.com/ for thoughtful analysis, daring prose, deep insights, and Mord’s tendency to use words not writ nor spoken conversationally since Middle English went out of fashion.

158 Comments

  1. Makalu

    -A- will always be number 1. No other name i feared more, no toher name has such history behind it. Triple A is EVE.

    August 28, 2013 at 6:58 pm Reply
    1. dryboy

      are u wet now?

      August 28, 2013 at 6:59 pm Reply
      1. TestiTest

        iam! ^^ just joking but -a- never give up, someone else still got so many beatings and came back with their own alliance name ?

        August 28, 2013 at 7:33 pm Reply
        1. dryboy

          CVA?

          August 28, 2013 at 7:57 pm Reply
          1. TestiTest

            CVA dropped its roleplay totally,but yes they came back and ra did too.

            August 28, 2013 at 11:54 pm
          2. Thatguy

            They’re still terrible.

            August 29, 2013 at 12:44 pm
        2. Feli

          Red Alliance since 2005 in insmother and CVA 2 month ago in providence.

          August 28, 2013 at 9:38 pm Reply
    2. haahahhaa

      If that was the case why didn’t you stay?

      August 28, 2013 at 7:39 pm Reply
      1. -A- 4 lyf

        The real Makalu has a registered account on this site, this fellow is an imposter.

        August 28, 2013 at 10:38 pm Reply
    3. best_burek

      Aren’t you the one that screamed over TS ” YOU DON’T TALK BACK TO AAA”. I guess Cacalu leaving has improved AAA image a bit.

      August 28, 2013 at 10:40 pm Reply
  2. JG

    Winter is coming. Russian bears coming out of hibernation. Good to see -A- dildoing again.

    August 28, 2013 at 7:05 pm Reply
  3. -A- Veterain

    Be ready you CFC scrubs and Nooob Spawn, we are coming to nail your pet dog to your door.

    August 28, 2013 at 7:10 pm Reply
    1. Again?

      Your so damn stupid, not even taken your old space back yet, and yet your going to defeat the CFC. Your a scrub and always will be a scrub. Il wait till you get stomped by someone else who is bored just so we can hear all this again.

      August 28, 2013 at 7:15 pm Reply
      1. TestiTest

        Hes not from -A-, maybe hes in PL old -A- player but i guess he just want to bring some grudge and hate, like a little propaganda pet.

        August 28, 2013 at 9:16 pm Reply
      2. gram nazi

        You’re

        August 29, 2013 at 3:10 am Reply
    2. TestiTest

      i guess -a- has other plans. but that are your plans, or i guess you are not even from -a- just try to bring cfc on the door lol.

      August 28, 2013 at 7:32 pm Reply
  4. nigger jim

    -a- was shit, is shit, and will always be shit.

    August 28, 2013 at 7:19 pm Reply
    1. DNSMax

      You keep believing that if it helps you sleep, the greatest trick the devil ever played is convincing the world that -A- is shit, you’re just helping.

      August 28, 2013 at 7:25 pm Reply
    2. Jay Jackson

      They might not be the best in the universe, but you can’t doubt their resolve and their ability to rebuild.

      There are other “major alliances” doing far worse right now with the same levels of “help from their friends” — that is for damned certain.

      August 28, 2013 at 7:28 pm Reply
      1. nigger jim

        well i guess there’s always tribe… but i dont think anybody ever thought they would last this long anyways.

        August 28, 2013 at 7:51 pm Reply
      2. adsf

        The current -A- is just a reanimated shambling corpse, like RA. If you want an example of an alliance that truly doesn’t die, that would be SOLAR – their membership doesn’t abandon ship en masse when they lose sov like -A-‘s did.

        September 4, 2013 at 12:50 am Reply
    3. TestiTest

      who believe and hold on on his manipulated believes by bad propaganda seems to be a very intelligent person especially when hes wrong right?

      man get yourself over your e penis, and do something against the manipulated conscious you got bro.

      August 28, 2013 at 7:31 pm Reply
    4. Billbo

      Nigs gotta Nig right?

      August 28, 2013 at 9:17 pm Reply
    5. -A-

      forgot ur medication today?

      August 29, 2013 at 1:09 am Reply
  5. Kadeshi Grunt

    If only those russians learn how to live together (at least long enough to crush their common enemies) Goons would be dead looooong time ago. Anyone have any idea how -A- and N3 are gonna to interact ? And other anti-goons corps/alliances ?

    A N3/-A- colaboration could be very fun, if they fight goons.

    Fly safe.

    Kadeshi Grunt

    August 28, 2013 at 7:27 pm Reply
    1. not happening

      probably not gonna happen

      nulli left the soco halfway during the war,and later atacked -a-

      also nc. atacked -a- at the end of the war to steal russian space

      don’t think it will be forgoten

      August 28, 2013 at 7:49 pm Reply
      1. TestiTest

        I guess the Russians will more likely stick together, would be fun to know if Solar Fleet joins them, when yes and all of them can build up good relations this will be funny.

        August 28, 2013 at 9:15 pm Reply
    2. DDgrunt

      Fuck Nulli. They lack stamina and are not dependable. Fucked AAA and allies when they were still fighting Nulli’s enemies by switching sides.

      I’m hoping AAA, DD and SOLAR form closer bonds.

      August 29, 2013 at 6:02 am Reply
      1. asdf

        Defending -A- by blaming others for not having stamina is just hilariously hypocritical. I wouldn’t be so sure that SOLAR is very appreciative of -A- after they gave SOLAR the same treatment they gave their own coalition members when they asked for help.

        September 4, 2013 at 12:47 am Reply
  6. anon

    uhm there are lots of wrong facts in this text.

    1. dd is actually the complete russian part or -a- + rol and some other stain russians. theywere never aligned to pl or anyone. they are like the solar russians their own block
    and they did form that alliance after -a- was already dead with most us tz corps already gone

    2. -a- is for dd what en garde was for -a- . dd are the masters and -a- is some kind of training/non russian pet alliance.
    except rage and terror who seem to manage the alliance every corp in -a- are former -a- pets and other scrub corps.

    iam realy not sure why eve news and the mittany still writing about -a- doignths, -a- doing that. its darkness of despair who are leading everything in the south

    August 28, 2013 at 7:34 pm Reply
    1. CFC Owning

      Well if DD are so good lets see them put their cock where their mouth is?

      I didn’t think so…

      August 28, 2013 at 7:36 pm Reply
      1. anon

        i never said anythign about how good or bad they are, but they are the leading alliance for all those former southern coalition entitys. my post was about that -a- is now just and old name, used as pet alliance for dd.

        August 28, 2013 at 7:39 pm Reply
        1. Goons Your Daddy

          DD is the same as -A-
          They are mostly Care Bears.

          August 28, 2013 at 7:41 pm Reply
          1. IBIS

            your name tells me who are the real carebears

            September 10, 2013 at 10:43 pm
        2. TestiTest

          i guess you are wrong in this DD, -A-, C0ven dont think like the normal CFC, N3,NC;PL Alliances in their terms of relationships. They are like well Husband, Wife, Grandfather. They work as one, and also on alliance level i guess there is big harmonic between them and will stay there. You just try to make -A- sound like a pet, cause you still hate them for things you dont tell us.

          August 28, 2013 at 9:14 pm Reply
          1. anon

            i was in -a- for a pretty long time and i left some month after dd was founded.

            there was never something like harmonic in the southern coalition and never something like working as one.

            August 29, 2013 at 3:53 am
          2. Alhana

            True words my little testie. / to you

            August 29, 2013 at 9:17 pm
        3. NC.

          very wrong I guarentee AAA still is a top 10 alliance for average member sp/kills… AAA has some very skilled and disciplined pilots and many long lasting legit AAA corps still remain with a few nice additions… AAA can hold there own against almost any alliance 1v1

          August 29, 2013 at 5:57 am Reply
      2. best_burek

        Because CFC has put their cocks where their mouths are many times am I right 😉

        August 28, 2013 at 10:37 pm Reply
        1. Thatguy

          Don’t be jelly that you can’t do it.

          August 29, 2013 at 12:41 pm Reply
  7. explain

    you never kill proper russian

    i try to explain,read this under assatination attempts

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Rasputin

    August 28, 2013 at 7:47 pm Reply
  8. obeserver

    -A-nal are so far up their own arse no other anti-goon alliance will want to work with them after the “DONT TALK BACK TO AAA” fiasco now when it comes to the hate stakes AAA top goons In that league

    August 28, 2013 at 8:29 pm Reply
    1. TestiTest

      The Question is, is this -A- the Old -A-, the next Question is, why you still mad at the past, you know how far the propaganda was done, and how far some people get to emotional involved by it. So maybe you think again about your position in this.

      August 28, 2013 at 9:12 pm Reply
    2. CfCk

      You idiot, that “guy” who is responsable for “DONT TALK BACK TO AAA” is not in PL, so shut the fuck up and go dring your Ttani-Piss (coolaid or how you might call it).

      August 28, 2013 at 9:18 pm Reply
      1. Facepalm

        Hey retard, no one even mentioned PL. maybe if you would have pulled your head out of your ass you would have noticed that.

        August 28, 2013 at 9:36 pm Reply
        1. best_burek

          Hey retard, what the person was trying to say is that the guy who said “DON’T TALK BACK TO AAA” is now in PL. You Makalu or what ever his toon-name is.

          August 28, 2013 at 10:26 pm Reply
          1. -A- is terrible

            Hey retard, let me introduce you to NO ONE GIVES A SHIT.

            August 28, 2013 at 10:46 pm
          2. cunty

            looks like no one gives a shit about you and everyone cares about -A-
            feeling unloved?

            August 28, 2013 at 11:06 pm
          3. best_burek

            You are even more retarded than a retarded retard. And I don’t give a shit about the retarded -A- or any retard associated with them. To sum it all up your just retarded.

            August 29, 2013 at 1:53 am
        2. noobspretendingtobesmart

          He had a spelling oops he ment maka is now in PL if you knew anything you would of known that

          August 28, 2013 at 10:40 pm Reply
    3. Muul Udonii

      Except the guy who said it is now in PL, not -A-.

      And the fact that 90% of the spergelords who acted like him have also left?

      Then yeah, nobody will want to work with a completely different set of command figures, leading a completely different group of people.

      August 29, 2013 at 8:45 am Reply
  9. yes

    AAA is a one of the best pvp ally. AAA is EVE

    August 28, 2013 at 9:08 pm Reply
  10. I was there

    It took a massive organized CFC propaganda campaign against -A- in 2012 on themittani, reddit, and other sites to take down -A-, and both HBC + CFC. Fleet recordings were edited to antagonize fcs as much as possible and any positive aspects of -A- were ignored. There was even one time when CCP posted a trailer video made by Tr0pa de Elite on facebook, which was bombarded by hate comments.

    The reality is most alliances of the CFC are complete utter shit, even Goonswarm as a single alliance has no chance against some of the major alliances in the game today.

    You can’t bring two coalitions (50k+ and complete supercap superiority in summer 2012) gainst a single alliance, win, and think you’re the shit. No one can counter that and it doesn’t matter what shortcomings the defender has.

    The true testament of an alliance’s power and legacy is the enemy required to defeat it.

    August 28, 2013 at 9:13 pm Reply
    1. TestiTest

      And you see -A- put Tribal on +1 just for the GF’s to bring things out, and stopped the 24/7 gank on their Station. I guess -A- reshaped itself, and maybe will also show other directions in politics, and behavior then in the past, and how far this -A- is still the -A- people learned to hate is really a question time will tell. Beside that people always stick with narrow minded thoughts ^^

      August 28, 2013 at 9:22 pm Reply
      1. Dichzor

        hate is the measure of success in eve. the more they hate on you, the more incentive is to continue!

        by that metric, -A- was the top alliance of 2011-2012 and in top3 in 2013. yay -A-!

        ps: pl is shit :))

        August 29, 2013 at 7:04 am Reply
    2. Provistani

      Indeed the CFC is shit. Just a massive bunch of band-wagon jumping wankers. If the CFC is ever defeated, we’d see most of them piss off to whatever the next FOTM is.

      August 29, 2013 at 11:36 am Reply
    3. lol

      I don’t think anyone has ever questioned that CFC/HBC were the worst fucking pvp alliances in EVE.

      August 30, 2013 at 7:10 am Reply
    4. Were it so....

      I think it is safe to say if all or most nullsec entities acted as -A- does, no one would complain about blue donuts, Dullsec, or anything else related to people being boring. That’s not how -A- does it. Short of 40 supers and twice that many capitals rapecaging a station(PL), -A- is one of your most likely candidates to bring a fight. Fighting with or against them, you are having fun. Unless of course you suck, but that’s your fault.

      August 30, 2013 at 11:11 pm Reply
    5. TiredOfAllTheStupid

      -A- also had more warm bodies then. They’re back, the question is are they as good as they once were, and time will tell.

      August 31, 2013 at 12:42 am Reply
  11. true story

    -A- and Nulli (before they took the easy way out) were actually successfully defending against PL and TEST, even when outnumbered. Montolio had to call in CFC and even admitted in the logs (which Mittani leaked several months later) that they would have lost the offensive otherwise.

    The people in CFC that call -A- shit should really take a look in the mirrior, cuz HOLY SHIT

    August 28, 2013 at 9:16 pm Reply
  12. Lobo13

    I for one never really liked -A- I had flown with these guys for the SOCO war and there were numerous occasions where they left their allies to die. Ppl like to talk trash about N3 but one thing about that coalition they stick together, -A- is known for abandoning allies when things get tough. I hope this -A- has learned from previous mistakes or else expect them to fall again in the near future.

    August 28, 2013 at 9:24 pm Reply
    1. cunty

      funny, when I was in -A- I remember fleeting up to defend nulli space, then nulli got offended that -A- werent going to lose their caps for nulli and spat the dummy.

      Fuck Nulli, PGL is 10 times the fuckwit Maka ever was.,

      August 28, 2013 at 11:03 pm Reply
    2. Loot Fairy

      Complete bullshit. -A- ran 10 times as many Nulli fleets to defend Nulli space (not even joking) and the most nulli did was cry that we were losing — at which point was when the cfc was called in ontop of test + PL, mind you. I’m obviously not -A- anymore but that is the truth… To this day all Nulli do is cry and not do any real things that impact a pile of shit.

      August 29, 2013 at 12:04 am Reply
      1. Some Vet

        Lol no you didn’t don’t lie, most of the time we were told to stay docked by your -A- leaders. Plus the main fleets you guys ever really flew were 100km rocket spewing Tengus that flew about 80km from HBC/CFC fleets, that achieved absouloutley nothing from a strategical and sov war point of view besides popping a few poorly tanked ships.

        You rarely ever committed battleship fleets because they were too hard to extract from a fight if things got messy and you were far more worried about your kb stats than any of Nullis space in the end so stfu yeh

        August 29, 2013 at 8:25 am Reply
        1. Thatguy

          Maybe because you’re terrible?

          August 29, 2013 at 12:36 pm Reply
        2. AAAvet

          “HBC/CFC fleets”

          You are the typically Nulli like tard who was screaming for a full capital, balls deep engagement against the combined arms of HBC/CFC/PL. You clowns were such clever tacticians with your attention deficit disorder and patience of a heroin addict.

          Honestly, the combined arms of HBC/CFC were down there. We were outgunned, out ISK and you delusional clowns thought we could hold sov. AAA killed far more than you. In fact, till recently broken by Goonswarm, we got EVE’s all time record for enemy kills in a month. We were there for a LONG war, so was RA but you clowns didn’t have the intelligence or stamina for any of this.

          Anyhow, its nice to know Nulli has such a glass chin. It will never be erased from your pathetic history in spite of the desperate attempts to blame others for your cowardice when you ran to empire and ultimately came back to join the enemy.

          August 30, 2013 at 5:46 am Reply
    3. Darkside

      Fuck your revisionist history Nulli dog. ‘Left their allies to die?!’

      1. NULLI quit on their Delve space and allies and went to empire, NOT AAA.
      2. NULLI then came back south, joined the HBC side and attacked the very same allies
      and took a piece of AAA space while they were still fighting your invaders.

      Amongst the old south, Nulli are considered treacherous dog and nothing will give us more pleasure than to see you burn.

      August 29, 2013 at 5:53 am Reply
      1. asdf

        “NULLI quit on their Delve space and allies and went to empire, NOT AAA.” This is because it would be difficult for an alliance that doesn’t undock to move anywhere.

        September 3, 2013 at 5:43 am Reply
    4. badatevedude

      I personally disliked INIT and AAA, so back when they were killing each other I got a bit of a nerd boner whilst thinking of mutual destruction. All alliances are “Ship of Theseus” like, they change over time and are not the same as they were 2 years ago (maybe razor the stench of decay holds strongly to them) so long as the new members don’t rest on laurals earned by people who flew in the past and are hungry I see no reason that aaa couldn’t be a viable nullsec entity.

      August 29, 2013 at 6:41 am Reply
    5. God forgives -A- does not

      Your pretty high speed there sparky…you do realize that the guys you hate and led -A- during the SOCO war are the same ones who are in your coalition now yes?…M.V, BUSA, HIRR, and those that merged into them Led -A- during the Delve engagements. So if your concerned about the abandonment of allies, you should continue to be worried.

      August 29, 2013 at 2:01 pm Reply
  13. Bashing Borris

    AAA are the best
    We are back in business and will take back what is stolen
    Prepare to hit the wall of win and burn in fire

    August 28, 2013 at 9:55 pm Reply
    1. God forgives -A- does not

      Hmm… wut

      August 29, 2013 at 1:52 pm Reply
  14. War Anyone?

    this is all well and good, but how much of -a-‘s personality is left? The mass defection to Pandemic Legion of -A- FC’s and corps makes it difficult for me to tell who -A- is now. One corp in -A-, Kenshin, was started a little over a year ago(two at most). I was in that corp for a bit, and at the time i was helping them grind structures while triple boxing Amarr BS’ because they were still gathering numbers. You might also remember this http://themittani.com/news/circle-two-heist-50b-stolen.(sorry for the link to goon-central, but the story wasn’t published here.)

    When I saw Kenshin in -A-(ran into them in Catch) I realized that the new -A- is just that, NEW. I’m going to bet that the new cast that is playing the part of -A- will not take to some of the old habits that got -A- in trouble with its allies in the past. “You don’t talk back to AAA” is probably a bygone ethos, but i can’t imagine -A- comporting itself in any other way. The new -A- may be radically different than the old, and I hope they bring some flavor to null sec to break the stagnation that lingers from summer.

    August 28, 2013 at 10:15 pm Reply
    1. Mord Fiddle

      As I said, many questions remain be answered. I’m very interested, for example, in the relationship between -A- and DD, the latter being ex SOCO, including ROL and -A-.

      Nonetheless, -A- was proclaimed as dead, and here they are again. Well deserved props should go to Rage and Terror for pulling the alliance back from the brink of failscade and finding a path back into their old neighborhood. Even -A-‘s old enemies might give up a grudging tip of the hat to that accomplishment.

      And the bloggers and podcasters who sent flowers to -A-‘s funeral? (And all y’all know who you are.) A hearty ‘well played’ to the lads from Catch would not not be out of place.

      August 28, 2013 at 11:27 pm Reply
      1. War Anyone?

        I agree, and liked your article. Maybe a follow up on who the corps, and pilots of note now in -A-? Also, ‘well played’ indeed. They do defy the odds.

        August 28, 2013 at 11:50 pm Reply
      2. Kaminokage

        You should’ve done a bit more research on the topic: current -A- leader is Alhana Starrbreeze from Fight Cats Corp [FCC], so props go 2 him…. & others who currently manage alliance :)

        August 29, 2013 at 1:32 am Reply
        1. Mord Fiddle

          Thanks for the correction

          August 29, 2013 at 1:43 pm Reply
  15. War Anyone

    before everyone start heralding the return of the “Heroic” AAA remember this quote from the article linked above about the fall of ROL. Yes, I was in ROL until everything was lost (Including all of my shit in Feythabolis).

    ” Now we will see if -A- tosses ROL to the side like a used condom or if they will step up and defend their oldest ally.”

    August 28, 2013 at 10:26 pm Reply
    1. Mord Fiddle

      I didn’t call them heroic. There’s no denying, however, that they are wicked hard to kill off.

      August 28, 2013 at 11:29 pm Reply
      1. war anyone

        i’m sorry for not saying great article first. My comments could be taken to mean i disagree, but i found it timely, relevant, and accurate. I only wanted to raise additional questions.

        August 28, 2013 at 11:53 pm Reply
        1. asdf

          By “questions” you mean “concerns”. And by “concerns” you are referring to that AAA stands for Against ALL Allies, which is common knowledge.

          September 3, 2013 at 4:28 am Reply
  16. best_burek

    With all of the systems being taken over by the Ruskies in Catch, Solar will be sure to joining them soon. So winter will bring 3 big coalitions. The CFC, N3, and the new “add name here” Russian coalition. The big question is who will LOD go with. Will they stick with CFC or N3 cause the Ruskies don’t like them much.

    August 28, 2013 at 10:47 pm Reply
    1. na

      Check the killboards, LOD have chosen N3. 100 dudes to assist nulli kill bl sbus.

      August 29, 2013 at 12:53 am Reply
    2. Provistani

      Interesting times in store for us in Providence, with new neighbours on the way.

      August 29, 2013 at 10:59 am Reply
      1. God forgives -A- does not

        Nah, we have been beating on you guys regardless of sov

        August 29, 2013 at 1:48 pm Reply
        1. Provistani

          http://kb.cva-eve.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=302976
          So I see. Keep up the good work.

          August 30, 2013 at 9:16 am Reply
        2. Provistani

          http://kb.cva-eve.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=302976
          So I see, keep up the good work.

          August 30, 2013 at 9:19 am Reply
  17. -a- is still shit

    Sorry but as someone whos been in the war with the russians in the south from the begining -a- died as a russian/us alliance. Almost every russian corp left and joined DD. And almost every US corp left and joined somwhere else. It seems -a- dominates the AUS tz now. But the fact of the matter is they would be no where right now if DD had not carried them along. Everything they have no and will have is becuase DD has carried them, DD regularlly brings twice if not more than -a-‘s numbers. They are a leach.

    August 28, 2013 at 11:05 pm Reply
    1. Soulxlight

      Doesn’t matter . . . A leech is alive and so is -A- regardless of the time zone the alliance still functions. The article isn’t saying that -A- is the same alliance that it was . . . just that it is alive and feebly kicking.

      August 28, 2013 at 11:53 pm Reply
      1. Thatguy

        Feebly kicking the Iniative’s ass.

        August 29, 2013 at 12:31 pm Reply
    2. war anyone?

      Kenshin had aussie leadership when I can see how they have come to be heavily aussie tz, but are the aussie tz and russian that far off?

      I’m in West Coast TZ, and last night at about 0900 eve time there was an argument going on over whether that was euro, rus, or aussie.

      August 28, 2013 at 11:56 pm Reply
      1. -A-

        Pretty sure its GeneralGree who runs au tz in aaa. While vlade may fc every now and then its gree doing bulk of the work.

        August 29, 2013 at 12:08 am Reply
        1. God forgives -A- does not

          Confirming that this Comment will give Gree an even Bigger Head, way to go!

          August 29, 2013 at 7:17 pm Reply
    3. RageFactory

      I dont see how you can consider -A- a leech when they lost most of their members, rebuilt with help, and fly in combined fleets? In the last few battle reports -A- has either brought a few less than DD or close to even numbers. How can you say anyone is a leech when both alliances are helping each other? A leech dose not assist its host so that isnt really relevant.

      Being helped back onto their feet dosent make you a pet or leech it means they have friends, and if I recall, no alliance presently is without friends. One friend helps another to build back up and thus 2 strong friends emerge, as its clearly showing despite nay sayers hating as usual. I guess the only way ppl know whats going on 100% is if your actually in the alliances and know what they are doing and what they have planned.

      I’m just glad they are back, and find it funny that they out lasted some of their enemies in the last war. New faces have appeared and now its time to see how things go, since we all saw what happened when we thought they were dead.

      August 29, 2013 at 12:28 am Reply
    4. -A-

      Could goons hold sov without other cfc members? Could Goonwaffe hold sov without other corps in alliance? As far as I know Test cant hold sov even with PL/N3 back them up. So your argument is invalid, if you ever had one.

      August 29, 2013 at 12:48 am Reply
    5. God forgives -A- does not

      -DD- are clearly our allies, we will support them, and they have and will support us

      August 29, 2013 at 2:07 pm Reply
  18. lolums

    Haters Gunna hate, haters gunna hate but i’ll be fucking models while they sit and masturbate

    August 28, 2013 at 11:58 pm Reply
  19. sjet

    mittens u have no idea the strom that comes to u… we are not dead are Band waits and watches ur power driven mind, u may say we belong dead or destoyed no every action bene making is ur own grave and soon ur see your world come crashing down as the old saying go “there is no goon for eve”

    August 29, 2013 at 12:09 am Reply
    1. f-a-ilcascade immenent.

      This post would come across much more threatening if you actually knew how to spell words and form them into sentences.

      August 29, 2013 at 1:02 am Reply
      1. Well Then

        HAHAHAHA

        August 29, 2013 at 4:14 am Reply
    2. God forgives -A- does not

      I don’t know who this is supposed to be, but -A- has no Interest in Goons, nor do we care what Mittens plans are, we live in our home and fuck with those who visit us, the rest is Irrelevant

      August 29, 2013 at 1:43 pm Reply
  20. War Anyone?

    ahh the good ol’ days(last year):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irnmLhVZczs

    August 29, 2013 at 12:23 am Reply
  21. nullibro

    ‘Against All Authorities’ is actually secret code for ‘Aussie Aussie Aussie!!!’

    August 29, 2013 at 1:04 am Reply
    1. Dennis the Dreamer

      Yeah. ANZAC alliance they help turn the battle against TRIBE in YHN.

      August 29, 2013 at 2:42 am Reply
  22. Kaminokage

    ” collapse of ROL and the defection of certain member corporations to the newly formed Darkness of Despair, which was aligned with the PL, Test and the Honey Badger Coalition (HBC) cause.” – LOL, WHAT!? :))) You do realise that you wrote a , don’t you? :)

    August 29, 2013 at 1:06 am Reply
  23. Kaminokage

    And special image 4 all -A- haters ))

    August 29, 2013 at 1:16 am Reply
    1. Michael Meio

      Hmmm.. That’s EVE, the right F**king Way!

      August 29, 2013 at 5:26 pm Reply
  24. -A-

    One advice might be usefuel for -A-: try to build larger US/EUTZ. That would be more balanced if we get into fight 24/7

    August 29, 2013 at 1:21 am Reply
    1. Alhana

      Thats my dream. I want to wake up and always to see big active fleet.

      August 29, 2013 at 7:52 pm Reply
  25. Dennis the Dreamer

    Told you -A- you won’t give space to TRIBE? now war is on your doorstep. CFC should burn Catch. Sweet Revenge. LOL!

    August 29, 2013 at 2:41 am Reply
  26. Huh?

    Didn’t this guy predict the CFC was gonna get beaten by TEST?
    Anyway I agree no other Alliance can keep losing to the degree -A- does and yet still be alive. Even Intrepid Crossing eventually folded and it didn’t take half the butt kicking -A- did. An awesome Alliance to farm on a huge scale.

    August 29, 2013 at 4:00 am Reply
    1. God forgives -A- does not

      Farm…lolz please disclose who you are and we shall see who farms who

      August 29, 2013 at 1:38 pm Reply
    2. Mord Fiddle

      No. This guy did not predict the CFC was going to get beaten by TEST, silly rabbit. Go do your homework and read the related posts. I did predict the break-up of the HBC and that PL would bail on TEST. (Though PL almost surprised me. Almost.)

      August 29, 2013 at 1:40 pm Reply
  27. somebody who never been in -a-

    with the useless ****tard makalu no longer in -a- and the other pieces of **** gone too i suspect whats left is the solid core of -a-. the core that may go afk for months on end, but when they come back they are solid and know what to do. the “trash membership” that is not useless is currently at a minimum. these are eve players. they come back. they don’t stop (if only for a time). and in the way they operate they enjoy themselves. yes they are awesome. oh and they are not connected by some out of game forum to hold them together. true eve players. you guys get my salute. that doesn’t mean i’m unwilling to shoot u though. see u on the battlefield.

    August 29, 2013 at 5:39 am Reply
    1. Dennis the Dreamer

      but -A-‘s aren’t -D- russian, they are -A-ussies.

      August 29, 2013 at 6:07 am Reply
      1. Roobear

        Can confirm -A-ussies in -A- are -A-wesome

        August 29, 2013 at 7:12 am Reply
        1. guest

          except GeneralGree, hes totally a retard

          August 29, 2013 at 12:24 pm Reply
          1. -A-

            Such a retard because he brought in anzac alliance in with him.

            August 29, 2013 at 8:42 pm
      2. God forgives -A- does not

        I can confirm that -A- still has Russians leading the alliance…Rage and Terror obviously never went to -DD-, However there are many other time zones represented within -A-

        August 29, 2013 at 2:05 pm Reply
  28. Darkness

    AAA, DD and SOLAR should temp ally with CFC and finish off N3 and those dogs Nulli. I couldn’t care less about the massive CFC blue space right now.

    Eve 0.0 can deal with that after Nulli has the space it deserves…none.

    August 29, 2013 at 6:07 am Reply
    1. grammar nazi

      So you care at least a little bit then?

      August 29, 2013 at 12:54 pm Reply
    2. Nullibro

      LOL….AAA and DD hates CFC more then they hate N3. When they decide to move north from their current location, we will do the same from Dronelands. The great epic two front war that was suppose to happen last year may finally happen.

      August 29, 2013 at 9:09 pm Reply
      1. DDgrunt

        Err…no. There is a lot more hate for Nulli than CFC. If you knew your history, you would know why.

        August 30, 2013 at 5:36 am Reply
        1. Shadowblade1436

          Agreed seeing Nulli stabbed them in the back last war and switched sides. ~A~ is not big on letting backstabbing slide, they may be crappy russians,but they are crappy russians that have long memories. And as they themselves say, god forgives ~A~ does not. After they settle into Catch, they so are going to turn north to woop Nulli.

          August 30, 2013 at 6:07 am Reply
          1. santa

            Bring it u madafakaz!!!!!

            September 1, 2013 at 8:35 am
          2. asdf

            Nobody is big on letting backstabbing slide. Which is why Against ALL Allies got put into the ground the last time, and it will happen again.

            September 3, 2013 at 9:08 pm
  29. -A- may not be dead but it is still a shadow of its former self. That might change in time.

    August 29, 2013 at 6:32 am Reply
  30. JIeoH Mocc

    “formed Darkness of Despair, which was aligned with the PL, Test and the Honey Badger Coalition (HBC) cause.”
    Dear writer, i don’t presume that the events on the South since last winter were the most important things that happened in EvE, but still, if you’re going to write about something, at least try to get the MAJOR points right.
    Didn’t bother to read after that line, it was enough to say that this article soundly deserves my “THIS IS SHIT WRITING” stamp of approval. or non-approval.

    August 29, 2013 at 6:33 am Reply
  31. Aristash

    Makalu tossing and turning in his grave. Why should I quit? I thought PL bends!, And they merged with “reven” 12 supers and the -а- take south again! Why should I quit!!!

    August 29, 2013 at 6:59 am Reply
  32. Roobear

    ANZAC Alliance is recruiting, join ingame channel ‘ANZA Apps’ for more details

    August 29, 2013 at 7:15 am Reply
    1. Thatguy

      Do you guys accept spais?

      August 29, 2013 at 12:27 pm Reply
    2. Dennis the Dreamer

      Tempting, can i join.

      August 29, 2013 at 1:13 pm Reply
  33. Luwc

    Kudos to -A- . you have been reached around to get buttfucked lately and you still made it to get your shit back together … at least a part of it for now.
    Altough… that Makalu thing was kinda retarded.

    August 29, 2013 at 7:45 am Reply
    1. Just Checkin'

      Well, the other dude who wanted to make a profit when they had to reship in order to defend was way worse or the others who were trying to make isk while not even attending fleets but were playing market games because people had to buy/refit.

      August 30, 2013 at 1:02 pm Reply
  34. niponiel

    you do not talk back..

    August 29, 2013 at 7:55 am Reply
  35. Muul Udonii

    I think you mean Unclaimed. not Darkness of Dispair.

    August 29, 2013 at 8:41 am Reply
  36. guest007

    -A- this -A- that…the usual crap……if it wasnt for DD and Co. were the fuck was -A-?
    Yes they are back, kudos for that,and we “all friends” but the engine here it has been DD and Co…. there are other entities inside the coaliton that field has much or more ppl in CTA’s that -A-….

    August 29, 2013 at 12:06 pm Reply
    1. -A-

      lol another if it wasnt for blabla people, tell me which alliance u r so I can troll u back

      August 29, 2013 at 12:16 pm Reply
      1. Just Checkin'

        Take a random Sov holding Alliance. They all have at least 5 allies to help them in def/attack.
        I really don’t get why there are so many coalitions and to be honest I don’t like the era of coalitions but it’s a fact in EvE today so, “get used to it and stop acting like a baby” is the answer to trolls like guest007

        August 30, 2013 at 1:00 pm Reply
        1. -A-

          Totally agreed. I dont like the idea of coaltion either as the name of AAA tells. But that is inevitable in today’s nullsec if an alliance wants to hold its ground for a long term. In the end its all about politics that forged the map of nullsec into wat is like today. its better to adapt the new rules instead of dying in a fire while being a badass solo alliance wannabe.

          September 10, 2013 at 10:25 pm Reply
    2. Northerner

      End of the day while AAA was beaten down….it spawned two new enemies ..AAA and DD. Not such a great success.

      August 30, 2013 at 5:32 am Reply
  37. LordBaka

    What’s Boris doing here? Boris, what are you doing here?
    Fuck you!
    Where’s the case?
    Uhhh, you piece of crap…
    BLAM!
    Don’t take the piss, Boris.
    BLAM!
    I show you…
    BLAM!
    Almost had it…
    BLAM!
    For fuck’s sake…
    BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!

    August 29, 2013 at 12:17 pm Reply
  38. Nulli Wanker

    I for one salute the rise of -A- 2.0 (and their friends DD) and look forward to work with them again.

    August 29, 2013 at 12:52 pm Reply
    1. Nulli wanker

      Would also like to say that it would be fun to reproduce “Operation Uranus” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Uranus) with our new Russian friends. We could meet up lets say….in VFK.

      August 29, 2013 at 3:58 pm Reply
  39. RA dude

    “The final step in said escalation was the entrance of Clusterfuck
    Coalition (CFC) into the conflict on the side of Pandemic Legion and
    Test Alliance Please Ignore against Nulli Secunda, Raiden and -A-.”

    The author mentions Raiden, with participation in allied fleets of some 10-20 subcaps (before they switched sides with a sudden boost in numbers), but doesn’t mention Red Alliance, which provided fleets of about 100 (around the time CFC came south) and continued fighting alongside its old enemy -A- long after Nulli withdrew, almost until the war spread to -A-‘s own space. And the part about the formation of DD is completely laughable.

    August 29, 2013 at 1:37 pm Reply
    1. INK member

      What we all know:
      ‘RA is shit’

      August 29, 2013 at 4:56 pm Reply
    2. RnK dude

      No one mentioned RA because RA is complete fucking garbage.

      August 29, 2013 at 10:46 pm Reply
      1. NC.

        spoken by a true noobie who doesnt even remember the DRF lol you people are a joke

        August 30, 2013 at 4:58 am Reply
      2. Nulli

        To be honest, RA provided FAR more combat assistance to Nulli than Raiden. Raiden was almost non-existent during the CFC/HBC invasion of Delve.

        August 30, 2013 at 5:30 am Reply
  40. PLgrunt

    So is the old leadership like herc still in charge? If so it has failure written all over it.

    -A- cascaded because of failures at the top leadership level.. otherwise noone would have left.

    August 29, 2013 at 7:16 pm Reply
    1. DRFgrunt

      You clowns are so full of shit.

      * I remember, years back, in Fountain when PL quit the fight and that was with a lot less pressure than what AAA has gone through of the years. Same leadership still in PL.

      * PL is a highly risk aversive alliance.
      1) Hiding amongst the DRF for moon goo. DRF was at that time composed of almost all of the top 10 alliance on DOTLAN.
      2) When the DRF started to fail, PL jumped ship and went to goons, abandoning White Noise and NC because such a fight is just too tough.
      3) Just about every southern invasion has been at the head of a mega coalition, sometimes along side IT, TEST, GOONS, DRF. When you do go it alone, even Nulli whipped your ass.
      4) Yet again in Foutain recently. HBC not doing so well, Goon dominating, fuck this fight, we’re out of here.

      * Finally, while you bag your enemies leadership, you then recruit them into the ranks of PL. We’ve seen it a million times. One day, some individual is a useless scrublord and the next, a fine outstanding citizen of PL. Maka and many others come to mind.

      PL, useless easy street alliance.

      August 30, 2013 at 5:28 am Reply
      1. PLgrunt

        PL is mercenary .. in mercenary alliance shock horror?

        PL goes where we get the most benefit but it pay or kills and R&R. Nullsec is all about coalitions, jealousy that we can pick and choose from a range of them will get you nowhere. Sorry most PVP pilots want this life rather then prop up some terrible coalition.

        So should we decide to grind a massive coalition solo.. where would be the fun and profit in that (lucrative contracts are always welcome however)!?

        If you think propaganda from HBC is real… you really are lost if you truly believe ‘-a- (was) shit’ after if faced down DRF for months.

        What it is now is left to be seen.

        So you really want to claim to be in DRF? DRF was terrible and is dead because of the same internal issues and defections that -A- should have paid attention to before that whole ‘soco’ fiasco.

        PL is run by the campaign FCs and everything else supports this, IMO this is the best way to play in nullsec.

        September 1, 2013 at 1:13 pm Reply
  41. tash

    now maka as gone good luck -a-

    August 29, 2013 at 7:32 pm Reply
  42. Alhana

    Hello guys.
    There are many mistakes in this wall of text about our history

    August 29, 2013 at 7:58 pm Reply
  43. What`s going on?

    So CFC is taking Delve and Period Basis. They also started to take Test systems in Querious.
    Test is dead. Tribe is Dead. DD/AAA/Coven bloc in PS, Esoteria, Feythabolis, Impass and now assaulting Catch.
    Is Init dead to?
    Lots of movement in null going on atm!

    August 30, 2013 at 5:22 pm Reply
    1. 123

      Lots for movement, no fighting…nomad

      August 30, 2013 at 6:30 pm Reply
  44. DD

    -a- is still shit, now it can be also called unclamed v2.0

    August 31, 2013 at 12:05 pm Reply
  45. Velvet

    Undead again? All I read was how they were dead in 2012 and extreme detail of that fact. Trying to explain they’re back in a hurried closing paragraph didn’t convince me otherwise. We know the history of -A- it’s greatly documented elsewhere when it was current. You missed the chance to explain now and how. Lot of people asking why they’re still being talked about and you didn’t help answer. Hard but critically true.

    September 1, 2013 at 12:07 pm Reply

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