The war is over. The Cluster Fuck Coalition won. TEST could not hold up under the constant strain of around the clock warfare. Their Saint Paul’s Cathedral burned to the ground when the fire watch quit. Some will say it was inevitable. That’s not worth the pixels needed to display it, but that’s what they’ll say nonetheless.
I don’t think it was ever inevitable. With that way of thinking, the real Saint Paul’s Cathedral would have burned to the ground and England would have been crushed under Nazi boots. Who outside England (and not a few inside I’ll warrant) would have bet on England emerging from that onslaught the victor? I would not have. If you put the privilege of 20/20 hindsight aside, neither would have you.
But the Fountain war is behind us now and it was not the Battle of Britain. The big blue donut is no more. Many would say that is for the best. But is a CFC donut any better? CFC members are already working at removing TEST sovereignty from Fountain. The newly conquered areas are being used by Goonswarm leadership as a reward to their “pets” who fought well. I know this is already happening. Besides, it only makes sense.
It’ll take 30 days for the sovereignty change to finish, give or take. It will take more time for the war weary to recuperate. Even with ship reimbursement, goons et al will need to refill their personal wallets. They will want to settle in and make their new nests home. I figure that’ll take another month perhaps. It really depends on the individual.
What then? Where does null-sec go from there? No, I don’t mean it in a figurative sense. I mean it literally. Where do they go? With the big blue donut replaced with an even bigger blue donut, what happens now?
What do you think happens. We’ve seen it before. Where did they go at the height of the first big blue donut? Yep, they went to high-sec – where 60% of New Eden’s capsuleers reside and nearly 100% of the tears. What else will bored CFC pilots do when there’s no one in null-sec they’re allowed to fight – again?
Add to this the possibility the winter expansion might be industry significant. Remember that high-sec POCO comment made by CCP Soundwave during Fanfest? Don’t remember? Here, listen (and read) for yourself. Don’t have the time. Fine. He said, “My big dream is to let you take them in empire as well.” He also said, “These have so much potential.” He called them a “low level kind of sov or ownership thing.” How lucrative would high-sec become to an alliance like Goonswarm if it could collect taxes from PI carebears by owning all the Custom Offices? That’s like free ISK. Do you think that might get Goonswarm’s attention? They attacked TEST and fought a months long war for moons. How much easier to take high-sec POCOs from “smaller industrial tycoons” as CCP Soundwave called them?
Carebears of New Eden, you had better start preparing now. It will be a long winter. I can hear the howling already. The hyenas are coming.[1]
Watch Out
– Mabrick
He’s been around the block a time or five. With over 15 years of MMO playing under his belt and a memory that reaches back to pencils and dice, he offers his insights into the not so virtual reality we call Eve Online.
[1] Yes, I purposefully mangled the metaphor. Wolves are seen as noble hunters who cooperate to survive. Hyenas are renowned for stealing other predators’ kills. They are seen as ignoble thieves and scavengers. They may be feared, but they are also held in contempt.
What! CFC would NEVER do such thing that would hurt so many people’s feelings. They’re not that kind of folks, you know.
Not even sure what you are talking about, is owning POCO suppose to hurt peoples fellings?
in Hogwarts it is.
Lol goons will force empire pubbies to join their 0.0 getto’s only to extort even more isk. Literally worse then BoB.
Or maybe hisec pubbies will unite under the leadership of that Harry guy, or what’s his name, and burn GSF to the ground? …wutwut, i’m in the wrong movie again?
Harry forever : nickname hairy forever , king of high sec
Harry Forever hangs around VFK, he is polite, proactive and has more balls than all the other highsec forum warriors combined.
We need more Harry Forevers.
A floating turd has a better chance of crushing the CFC than highsec publords ever will
CFC will burn from the inside.
No difference between CFC alliance members and shit renters, both equal shit bears.
Just another heap of blues to the bad blob.
I just love as EvE shows us that it is always imperialistic shit going on all around and having huge impact on all others. Just like in real world. But since most people will never learn and understand it, every imperium is ok and can continue till its destroyed by other imperium. 😀
i cant help it feel some stuff gets decided by the torunament comentators.. ina dark backroom over a cigar and a glass of wisky…. maybe fozzy & co should thread carefullly with “massive” game mechanic changes like this… and make sure they r the best for everyone not just for shadoo, nc, w/e corp kill2 is in etc… to avoid another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AES2t_nDP4Q
lots of great games out ther… nobody is forced to keep playing eve..
Imo problem is that noone is really going to make an real alternative to EvE because they today make only games for masses, EvE like games are only for certain population. And lack of alternatives makes people play EvE. I know some who would go to other game but they just didnt find any other like EvE.
When CCP would have a real competition they might change theirs approach, but now I dont see that happening.
amen , there simpel no game like eve , i mean really NONE
i m only one think to say even the greatest giants can fall and goons will do the same probably not now but the time will come until then guys we need wait.
goons did fall many times before.
stop beeing a stupid cunt please.
yea but this time its bigger then ever and with fountain in their hands and we have another “BOB” trying to get all null sec for him
I can see no logical reason why the major NPC Empires would let 0.0 alliances come in and blow up their customs offices and put up their own. On a logical role playing basis they would have sub-contracted Interbus to run their customs offices in HS space. That being said it would be fun!
except CCP Goonwave thinks its a good idea, kinda like how he wants less in EVE and more features to require a separate game to play, despite DUST becoming the utter failure it is.
Every idea he has had has not only passed, its also been aimed at either helping goons, or fucking over everyone not goons.
CFC would take all the hi-sec POCO’s by most of the PI products on the market and set tax 100%
if ccp make high sec pocos attackable it will drive down the sub numbers… high sec bears will just drop the pi/indy alt account. it would be a very bad move financially if ccp does go ahead and do that
Actually that might not be such a bad thing. I don’t see CFC doing all the PI in EVE. Taxes can be even lower than they currently are given the fact that they will own the majority 😉
Goons wouldn’t be able to hold 1500 systems of POCOs, they can’t fight highsec wars, remember? They had to have wardec mechanics changed just to stop the flood of stupid losses.
hisec PI alts? who does that? PI in highsec sucks, its not worth the effort.
Hisec pocos are a natural isk sink, if CCP makes tax go to a player pocket it will end horrible for everyone, even for goons.
Think a natrual isk sink is them blowing every few days.
well if they do that expect fuel block prices to go up
Bye TEST, <3
i will not waste any time and effort on debunking this bullshit.
I was about to post a wall of text. Then I read your comment …
“DAMN THIS MAN IS RIGHT”
Ill just throw the word “debunk” out there and expect you believe that this article is total bullshit based on the weight of my anonymous posting.
“What else will bored CFC pilots do when there’s no one in null-sec they’re allowed to fight – again?”
Allowed to fight???? Lol. What fucking idiot would allow some absentee landlord to dictate to them whom they could and could not fight?
CFC pilots will do the same thing they always do when we roll through their space with a small gang – die or dock up. Then, after waiting for them for an hour or so to form up, they’ll stupidly undock their shiny battleships, sit on a gate and watch as we warp past them and wave in local.
Is that you goblin ?
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because this post is shit
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what the fuck is wrong with EN24 and their predicting posts :
“we predict the CFC will fail”
“we predict the CFC will that”
“we predict the CFC this”
“we predict that the CFC is burning Jita”
“we predict that the CFC is suicide ganking”
are yall retarded ?!
CFC logs in and does stuff – OUTRAGEOUS!!!
I predict more high sec war decs if the POCO idea came true. Not only from Bloc levels but mercs, and even high sec alliances. It would be a crazy world, and everyone would end up losing as PI materials are needed for a great deal of things especially POS.. please proceed to your nearest low sec hiding place and bury your heads.
Setting aside the worth of this prediction….
If the CFC boogeyman is coming for high sec pocos, then riddle me this: Why do you care so much about the CFC doing it, rather than worrying about any null-sec coalition doing it? Are the others so much more altruistic as to be less a threat? Perhaps its just not so bad if NCdot or N3 were to do such a thing.
Obsession is a harsh mistress…
Its more like that the CFC can replace at least 80-90% of the POCOs in a small amount of time while the rest would need months or ever years to do so.
If CFC does take 80% of the hi-sec POCOs then they can have what ever tax they want on them, plus since there will be no one to threaten their empire at 0.0 they will be able to focus on hi-sec and send hordes of pilots to replace the POCOs.
P.S. ANYONE who could do that would be bad news for hi-sec players, not just CFC.
Holy smokes, I wish we were as awesome as you think we are. And I think you’re also underestimating the other coalitions abilities too. The recovery from the N3 sovereignty glitch was pretty impressive.
But in the end, I doubt something like this could be a problem – It sounds like a pain in the ass. Would cause more headache than benefit.
Last time I checked Caps and supers couldn’t enter high sec, which means that some other coalitions, like N3 or alliances like PL, wont be able to use their strongest ships.
Anyway I’m not saying that they will do it. All I’m saying is that they are capable of doing it, either by using CFC or alt corps who wont be “red flags” for the rest of EvE…
If people still think the CFC took fountain because of the moons you may wish to rethink that idea.
Time to hyperdunk N3.
huh another loser complains about others having fun and he not, shit post
“He’s been around the block a time or five. With over 15 years of MMO playing under his belt and a memory that reaches back to pencils and dice”
Thank you for your input pubelord, look forward to your next post if you become more relevent
Stopped reading at the confused and ignorant opening narrative regarding the Battle of Britain and ‘England’s’ brave fight against the German onslaught. Read some books.
I can also confirm this was an ignorant typical American thing to say.
Americans don’t read books, unless it’s recipe books. The fat ignorant wasters.
Can you imagine having to form up for High-Sec POCO timers, this might be the dumbest shit I have ever read on this site. It would be impossible to protect them and a huge waste of time for, let’s face it, shitty PI.
No bridges in hi sec either. Who the fuck would wanna deal with that nonsense.
You know, I’m not going to comment on most of the content of this article – others have done that already, and really, they’re pretty accurate in their assessments. I’d just like to point out one tiny little detail that I think sums up the author’s diligent research and attention to detail:
I can hear the howling already. The hyenas are coming.
Footnote about mangled metaphor or not, you might as well have said ‘the vultures are coming’. Hyenas don’t howl. They are, in fact, part of suborder feliformia – closer to cats than they are to wolves.
Goons have been around for too long, the CFC are fat and greedy…now the only way to stop the CFC from taking over all of null is for all of Eve vs CFC!
How’d that work out in Fountain?
It wasn’t everyone in EVE vs the CFC, Solor didn’t fight the CFC. -DD-, Pizza, RA, didn’t fight there. Clockwork, Rote Kappell, I-Red, Sound, and the provi block didn’t fight the CFC in Fountian.
That is not including all the other small Lowsec and highsec groups, which contain 70% of everyone in EVE.
NullI and TEST did fail I’ll give you that, but not everyone in EVE fought the CFC in fountian.
thats because the rest of eve can’t get along long enough to decide on a name for the hypothetical coalition to fight the CFC, let alone actually fight.
Or… just maybe… the rest of Eve didn’t care that much about the war between Test and Goons.. at least care enough to the degree that you wanted. You like to assume the rest really care which Coalition between the 2 what seem to be of identical nature duking it out for a specific region filled with moons. Sorry not everyone was in on it, and sorry, not everyone cared. Whether it be Bob, Test or Goons winning… it didn’t really change the rest of Eve. Just the specific groups involved. Stop assuming everyone was against you, because quite frankly, that wasn’t even remotely the case at all. It was just 2 bigger groups than have ever been done before. That’s it. Its an anchievement to itself… but its not what you make it out to be.
Why would the Ruskies help PL and N3 elite cock lickers after they took all their space??
I was not saying that they would, I was making comment that it was not the the whole of EVE vs the CFC as there were many groups that didn’t fight in the Fountian War.
But if I was to be honest it would not have mattered much anyways as the poster under me has pointed out that the groups could not get along long enough to do so.
Yeah, somehow true. CVA didn’t go against CFC, i’ll give you that. And rest did not go all at once against CFC, that’s also something i can give you. For reasons like “Le Look, Le Plus Cool”, they all failed to be a winner, but heh, that’s not my bussines.
Will always love the hate of the most guys towards ppl building something they cannot easy profit off. Also love the “white knight” robes of the old renting alliances, and the horde of hisecbears who think those robes are what defines them. Eve is about profit. Everything else are hollow speechs and hypochrisy. Deal with it or go play WoW.
Fact is CFC did win, rest did fail. Oh, don’t give me the “yeah, we lost again, but we are the mother of koolaid”. Because i don’t care and don’t even give a f*ck.
Am unsure that what you are replying too in my comment after your sentence for CVA. I believe that all of my statement is true that whole of EVE did not fight the CFC in Fountian which is what I was saying. I am also unsure about this “white knight” robes that you are talking about which is not in my comment out all. Nor about eve being about profit, which I don’t agree about with, unless you are RTMing, then eve is about fun. I never expressed any hate to the CFC in my post so again don’t know where that is coming from.
I did agree that the CFC won and Nuli (N3) and TEST failed, but I’m unsure where I said, “Yeah, we lost again, but we are the mother of Koolaid.”
So who were you responding too?
Shampoo is fat too and he has been around with PL for a long time. So has NC. and Vince Jerkoff. I say kill all those alliances and let null become a large Thunderdome.
You know what happens then? People start cutting deals to work together to beat everyone else. And the deals keep getting bigger. And then you have alliances and coalitions again.
kill of cfc for a thunderdome retard
Not this again… there was an opportunity for all vs cfc and …well quite frankly, all didn’t show.
so yeah… you can shout it again but it’s not going to be more likely to happen.
it’s because people like you like to shout a lot, but don’t actually end up organizing anything. you just hang around waiting for someone else to do the organizing.
so in short… shut up or lead.
After Delve and Querious fall, then we will hit PL and NC. space soon after. You scrub lords of the Drone regions will soon have no more income! Enjoy low-sec you faggots, cause nothing, and I mean NOTHING can stop us now!!! By the way, we are no longer afraid of your super shiney’s, cause in do time our super fleet will be 3 times more of what you can deploy.
Maybe we will let Vince and Shadoo rent from us?
The blue doughnut doesn’t exist. the CFC doesn’t even have half of nullsec.
We will soon own all the nullsec we want, I’d say about 70 to 75% once we are through. We will leave a few areas untouched by us so you faggots can play the wonderful game of SOV grinding, and to keep CCP off our backs. If Vince or Shadoo tries to take whatever SOV is still available, we will curb stomp those faggots, take their SOV, then give it away to someone outside the CFC.
PL’s and NC. days of supremacy are over, this was proven in the Fountain war. Sure, PL pussied-up and didn’t show for 95% of it, but even if they did it wouldn’t have mattered at all. Let’s face it, all of EVE Online subscribers will play the game that the CFC let’s them play, and they will play it how we dictate, or face the juggernaut that is the CFC. By the way, even high sec won’t be safe for anyone that rubs us the wrong way. With the money we will be making, we will be able to perma wardec damn near everyone we want, that includes you high sec pussies.
Please stop. 70 to 75% of null? GSOL is already tearing their hair out and looking to murder people. Are you going to put up the towers? Haul the TCUs out? Defend the space afterwards? Are you going to keep the jump bridges fueled?
Seriously, you have only slightly more clue than Gevlon.
your troll-fu is weak. clearly someone whos very very mad at goons
TEST is so shit holy fuck. Enjoy lowsec you scrublords.
CFC are rotting Eve, with TEST dead, there now a imbalance in null, there really needs to be another Great Northern War, but this time attack them on all fronts!!
Lol, CFC has always won EVE. We just let the rest of you publords exist in Null so we can shitstomp you back to lowsec every couple of years.
GF BOB, GF Rusrus, GF TEST, GF N3.
Kiss the ring.
BOOM !
You have a sad life my friend.
I’m sure they’ll write stories about you throughout history.
Every man dies, but not every man truly lives, right?
And as your lying in your coffin with flaming hot cheeto stains on your fingertips,
humanity will look at you and say
he was a true hero, he conquered pixels
while his own reality crumbled around him,
here lies a beacon to all humanity.
The truth is a your a professional nobody, who is already forgotten.
I predict the next great war will be decided on who can troll the other’s renters’ space the most to prevent income. Somehow I feel like its Russian’s who probably got this one in the bag. All they know is logoffski.
Test is shit i hate this ally.When goons erase him from the map
No matter how u rub it and spin it. When space is fought for, people do what it takes to win. Thats the bottom line in EVE. so deals will be made, coalitions will form and the whole circle of the blue donut will continue.
so with the yelling of killing CFC.. i would think there would be a need for it. at least the coalitions to be formed should they fall will be smaller and balance would be put back in order in null.
The cfc fags can do as they wish but if they they think they can rule all there fooking high like to see there ass try and roll in to my worm hole where there blob don’t mean shit they’ll get there ass hemmed up
oh how kids talk on the internet….
TEST was just a symptom. CFC is also just a symptom of declining diversity in EVE. The real problem is the lack of active leaders and FCs, who wish to make their own path. The cause of this disease is, that leaders and FCs know, that any effort they would put into building their own path would be destroyed by superapital swarm of GSF or PL+N3. Or all of them together. As the result, they all end up joining PL or N3, to become another brick in the wall instead of making the sov map more colourful.
I was going to wave this off as more horrible en24 posting, but
huh
There is no evidence to the contrary. Well put.
Mabrick is a prophet. He predicted that carebears will have to hide from goons one day before the ice interdiction started. Clearly a wizard.
I am surprised to find CFC is not allowed to shoot anyone in Null sec.I await the N3 CFC blue report that is clearly coming next.
At least Mabrick can mangle a metaphor in a very presidential fashion.
I tried to warn them. I tried to tell Montolio. No one listened, and instead booted and shunned me for speaking against status quo. Well, status quo got you your ases handed to you.
Test was dead before the fountain war started, NCDot and PL
where never going to take Goons space no matter how badly they played or by how
well test did. They turned up to shoot some Goons and where always getting paid
off by the same Goons they turned up to shoot – in short it kept the masses
happy and kept things blowing up and therefore the markets moving.
It was purely another act in the everlasting mittens puppet
show, now the blocks are getting put in place for the entire of Eve to be
rented out and soundwave giving his mate Mits a way to tax high sec, to offset
the loss of tech as its had to finally replaced.
“I don’t think it was ever inevitable” – You
haven’t paid attention to anything that happens in Eve then, PL have always
been in Mitts pocket, Vince has always been basically PL bitch and has always
had active toons in PL, as i said above they were not in fountain to take sov
off Goons but to make it look like a real war and get the grunts in gear.
Genius in one way, pathetic in another – it depends on the
level of social retardation you currently sit at but for me when a game becomes
a social experiment of how to deal with masses of online players. All of which
pay to play a game and you are basically ripping them all off cheating with
your mates who happen to be the developers of the said game, all in aid of
preserving power in some online game – hell even if you make a few quid out of
it with rmt its still the kind of thing you would get a needle in your front
temple lobe 80 years ago for. It surely does say something about someone’s
mental stability to put that much effort of their live into maintaining this
level of power though.
The game is broken beyond repair, let’s face it – how do you
fix fucked when now the people who make the decisions, people who run the
security, people heading the think tanks to improve the game are the same
people who spent years trying to figure out how to break the game by removing
things which they couldn’t counter or use, so must be nerfed. To the point it literally
left nothing but a blob game when they had the biggest blob.
Same people who spent years exploiting, botting, cheating
their way to making isk yet now we are expected to trust these same people have
the best interests of the average gamer (actually lol a little there) at heart
for anything.
It’s all messed up, the good stuff got nerfed until it was a
blob game, the csm gave too much direct access to CCP who have now basically
been taken over from the inside out and we are watching the game become one
massive fake game – a show put on for the masses but the puppeteers to entice
them to dance for them.
I’m pretty sure this isn’t what CCP had in mind all them
years ago, it’s maybe not even what Mits was aiming to do, not to break the
game but to win i suppose at it but inadvertently it has killed the game.
Queue generic Goon response but as was put above – if I’m
wrong then what now for eve? it has nowhere to go, nowhere to create conflict
that doesn’t have a predetermined outcome which really in inevitable, so
therefore makes it pointless to even try.
The game simply has no way left to evolve, it’s entire point
of a sandbox has gone because it isn’t that anymore – it’s finished but nobody
remembered to roll the credits on Mittens screen for the ending sequence and
now it’s in limbo until it gets turned off.
sounds like youre despairing. goons and pl cannot stop you from undocking. so who gives a fuck about their cheating, scamming and metagaming? fine, they have nukes and you have a rusty knife. yet still, one can execute a succesful attack, with enough motivation and perseverance. But no, you want to play in the big boys arena, right? well guess what, its not up to you to decide which arena youre allowed to fight in. You can make choices as to which arena you would like to fight, but the choices have to be made years in advance 😀
isnt eve glorious?
htfu, scrub.
hey not saying i know any inside info or anything but there is a pretty simple solution to this problem that you are over-looking. restrict high sec POCO ownership to alliances that dont own null-sec sov. other restrictions could be put in aswell to limit what organizations can directly own a high sec POCO. There is of course no way to limit where the money eventually flows, but it will help keep null sec away and reward alliances with roots in a particular system and no assets outside of highsec.
Who would want to fight the CFC? 10% TiDi is litterally the worst. Im sure Boat can’t even take a shit without causing 10% TiDi in the bathroom