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Two things happened recently that shown the sorry state of pets: Razor lost a capital fleet and Tribal Band lost its regions. Both happened because of them being pets of GSF and TEST respectively. They both built up something (capital fleet and Sov infrastructure) which they couldn’t hope to defend, but they assumed that their masters will protect it for them. When the masters were unable or unwilling to do so, they lost their investments without hope.

Had they been neutrals, they would have been more cautious. Medium sized alliances don’t move 60 capitals casually, nor they build stations, knowing that they can be evicted any time. Had they been merged with their masters, they could influence the decision or at least know it and didn’t act on assumptions.

What is important to learn from these losses is that being a pet is not the choice of the master (it’s obviously not the choice of the pet). I mean that no matter how much GSF and TEST tried to be fair and respectful, they couldn’t turn their pets into equal allies. Similarly, no matter how big fan I am of animal rights and how much I love dogs, I can’t turn my pet dog an equal human family member. Being a pet or not depends only on an objective question: “are you significantly weaker than your blue?”.

Why do I write this, and why under this title? Because I have good news for pets. Formerly there were only two ways of stopping being pets: merging, therefore formalizing the situation and gaining equal line member rights, obviously at the cost of most pet leaders losing their status and get themselves demoted into line members. The other way is unbluing which will make you independent actor by definition (and likely eaten instantly by enemies who were held back by blues).

However as I was thinking about my fleetbear corp, I realized how can one become an equal ally from pet status. Pets are “separate but equal“, actually separate but weaker. Razor and Tribe had everything that GSF and TEST had but were weaker in every aspect: less small gang and fleet members, less income, less supers, less FCs, less everything. The solution is selecting one aspect of the game and focus all efforts on this aspect, becoming stronger in this one aspect than the master. Imagine that Razor would have 2/3 of the dreadnoughts of CFC. While still would be unable to stand alone, GSF leadership would have to consult with them before all decisions due to their inability to do fleet action without Razor. Similarly, if the Razor would be in trouble alone, GSF would be forced to save it, as its failcascade would be a devastating loss to the CFC capital fleet. The master-pet relation is “I need you and you don’t need me, but has some use of me”. Being stronger in one aspect would turn it into an “I need you and you need me” equal relationship.

So the solution to pethood is picking one field and be the best in it. If you happen to pick stratop fleet participation or financial backbone, I gladly help you to rise up from pet state. Yes, this offer stands for Goon pets too, I’m just as a pragmatist as The Mittani, who (just as I predicted) started a carebearing program. I don’t like Goons more than the Goons like renters, but we have something in common: we like losing even less.

– Gevlon Goblin

His EVE journey show a very interesting “outside the box” approach to the game, PVE and the trade hubs, reason for which we invite you to pay a visit to his blog.

p.s.: Xander Phoena made an interview with me.

105 Comments

  1. goon pizza bl all suck

    For all those who must be new to eve a pet alliance is someone who pays rent tribe does not pay rent we were blue to test cause we were there allies. For all those who like to talk shit let them they don’t know what there talking about. Tribe is tribe they have to make fun of us cause there in shitty corps with nothing better to do.razor at one time was a great alliance. What the big picture here is we need every one to gang up on goons multi prong attack. All at one time then we can knock them out.

    August 16, 2013 at 7:26 am Reply
    1. GG Tribe

      You seem to be confused.

      Renters pay money to live and jew in another alliances space, they don’t tend to fleet up and fight sov wars, infact most renters aren’t even allowed to share such simple things as intel channels.
      Pets rely on their superior for protection, social programs, leadership, whereas they may own their own space, they wouldn’t had they not been under the protection of the larger alliance.
      This is clearly seen by tribes “oh shit, our protector is gone, better pack up and leave” strategic move.

      And for the record, tribe is shit, the IRC of the south. How many times have your fleets gotten bombed before you’ve even stepped out the door. If anything Tribes attempt at protecting their space will be comical. Better ask test to keep the couch warm in Somalia for you.

      August 17, 2013 at 12:52 am Reply
      1. indy

        patience young one, we will get better :)

        August 19, 2013 at 9:04 am Reply
  2. Luwc

    another shit post by goblin tm.

    August 16, 2013 at 7:29 am Reply
  3. waltari

    tl;dr anyone? Or just another shitpost?

    August 16, 2013 at 8:37 am Reply
  4. Muul Udonii

    Not actually as terrible an article as people seem to think. If you ignore the alliances he’s talking about and the fact he’s apparently looking to get recruited as some sort of management consultant…

    Pets are weaker
    Pets that become stronger in at least one aspect of the game become partners

    Not sure what there is to discuss about that.

    August 16, 2013 at 8:46 am Reply
  5. Lugalbandak

    Great Pos +1 , keep them comming

    August 16, 2013 at 9:00 am Reply
  6. Independent

    PETS VS RENTERS!!!

    OMG where is null sec going??

    EVE Renting works if there is giant blue ball. If there is constant
    wars, skirmishes in empty spaces, will not work. Lets see how Goonies
    will run gauntlet protecting renters in the North – they cannot even
    protect their own, far less renters. N3/PL is different because they
    shown they can keep their house in order.

    Just look at yesterday, core CFC hard at work:

    http://blacklegion.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=19161534

    I wonder how renters will do better ?

    Another example – FA moved entire alliance to 3V8 to destroy
    independent Mordus Angels, and half year later and 500bil in losses they
    jumping ship and becoming renters LOL

    http://moa.eve-kill.net/

    GOONS RENTING IS SCAM TO KEEP ON MAKING ISK NO MATTER WHAT! HAVE FUN IN GAME, NOT PAYING SOMEONE ELSE’S MORTGAGE!

    August 16, 2013 at 9:29 am Reply
  7. Na

    wtf is this nonsense your shitty stab. Rzr are associated members of CFC are are not pets.

    They fought another equal sized Alliance and lost a few caps.. will say it again CAPS.

    Razor have sat on moon goo since how long? enjoy SRP and are brawling with said ships as they intended for pvp you know.

    August 16, 2013 at 12:41 pm Reply
  8. Dennis the Dreamer

    Tribal band lost its region? Coming from Test Gevron or something, you got to be kidding me again. Just shrugged your ISK lost and stop bothering your own alliance.

    August 16, 2013 at 1:01 pm Reply
  9. Sir Spam-a-lot

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    August 17, 2013 at 2:39 am Reply
  10. CFC

    I demand new Publishers that know what they’re talking about. Another useless post which are assume’ing too much without checking facts first. Poorly made article.
    Infact during the TEST vs CFC war, there were only a fraction of real so called “pets” and none of them are mentioned here.

    August 17, 2013 at 12:42 pm Reply
  11. Yer mum

    Apparently seems like he indeed achieved something, even though i seriously doubt it was his initial intention. Doesnt matter whether you are goon, random cfc grunt, N3 guy or TEST member like me, we all can however collectively agree upon a fact that Goblin is massive faggot

    August 17, 2013 at 1:16 pm Reply
  12. GG CAN'T POST FOR SHIT

    Once again, another post by Gevlon that is too terrible to even read. Please stop posting on this site, you make it worse.

    August 18, 2013 at 11:29 pm Reply
  13. Luc

    Based on the comments I am reading here I think some people take this game way too seriously and forget that this is just a game. I enjoyed reading this post and I understand this is one guy’s opinion and when you take things into perspective and ignore the alliance / coalition names in his post the man has a point.

    August 19, 2013 at 10:37 am Reply
  14. Soldarius

    This post just shows how little gevlin knows about nulsec. Razor has been a major nulsec power for years. When the old NC collapsed, they were, afaik, the only alliance to successfully fall back and reform. Now they are back and deserving of much respect.

    Tribe was a pet. We were a project that became more than the sum of its parts. We were given our space. We enjoyed protection and TEST services while we grew through our infancy into our teens.

    In the last few months Tribe has been moving forward towards total independence. While we greatly value the bromance with TEST, we can no longer depend on TEST to protect us.

    While Tribe will always remember fondly our youth in arcadia, Tribe will now either grow up or die.

    August 19, 2013 at 7:20 pm Reply

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