August 9th, 2013 the “Dinner Squadron” coalition disbanded and have left the southern part of New Eden. Alliances either died or have moved to take part of the CFC vs the world war. Alliances like The Initiative and Walltreipers have moved to Delve to join the CFC in their attacks on TEST Alliance, whilst Insidious Empires and Ex Cinere Scriptor (ASH) have moved to the Drone Regions and are now blue to the N3 coalition but not officially part of the coalition itself.


The Initiative and Walltreipers have made their intentions clear about leaving the TDS, and you can find that here.


I have talked to both EMP (Insidious Empires) and -ASH- (Ex Cinere Scriptor) leadership about what their plans were for leaving the TDS and both have decided to move to the drone regions with the N3 without explicitly becoming part of the N3. In interviews with both Phreeze and Michael JD, Phreeze had stated that R O G U E sov that was lost was theirs to stage out of while -ASH- was getting sov of their own from R O G U E as well. As far as it’s known, both alliances have been offered spots in the N3, Phreeze hasn’t decided on whether to say yes to the offer and Michael JD has decided not to comment on the basis of OPSEC. While their intentions aren’t 100% clear, it is clear that this move is to rebuild both alliances while helping evict R O G U E and Razor Alliance of their sov still left in Cobalt Edge.


In talking to Phreeze, he has stated that both alliances Ethereal Dawn and EntroPraetorian as alliances have both dissolved. He had stated that The Initiative and Walltreipers are moving west to fight Test while not being Explicitly blue to anyone but each other.


Talking to both Phreeze and Michael JD, both have stated that they are selling their sov in the south (Impass, Feyth, Esoteria) to Darkness of Despair after they have finished moving to the drone regions respectively. As per sov in Catch, it’s not going to be dropped while The Initiative deploys to fight TEST and whoever else is in the area. If they have plans to attempt to hold their sov in the south it is unknown, but after talking to Unionn CEO of Darkness of Despair, he had stated that they would be taking the sov in Catch.


After talking to Sister Bliss, which most things I’m about to state can be found in the SOTA that I had mentioned at the top of this article. But the general plan for Init after leaving the Dinner Squadron is to move to the Delve area and attack Test Alliance Please Ignore. They don’t have any intentions to drop sov in Catch or sell it to the Russians, but Sister Bliss did state that as a single alliance they won’t stay and try to fight off an entire coalition. If there are any “plans” to try to keep Catch, Sister Bliss said that he can’t and isn’t at liberty to tell me any plans for the region because of Opsec.


The alliances of Here Be Dragons and Flying Dangerous, it is unknown at the moment what they’re plans are. From what I’ve been told, Sort Dragon is fairly lost on what his alliance will be doing. As per Flying Dangerous I have heard nothing on their plans. If anyone knows anything about what their plans are with the fall of the TDS, if you join EN24_INTEL you can talk to me if you see me online. Or you can mail from the link to my name in the MOTD.

– Firefox


  1. JIeoH Mocc

    Sort Dragon can always contact the Director-in-charge-of-renters from Darkness of Despair and rent himself a couple of systems. I am sure he’ll be satisfied.

    August 11, 2013 at 9:27 am Reply
    1. Retarddown

      yes because he needs to rent of Russian scrubs.DOD buying space is hardly a victory tbh

      August 11, 2013 at 9:01 pm Reply
      1. JIeoH Mocc

        No need to be mad. If somehow (actually beats me how, since the alliance has very little income) people come up with the money to buy the TCUs in a region so i won’t need to grind it down, i am happy. And that’s not the victory, you’re correct. The victory is a list of disbanded alliances and coalitions we’ve faced and that are no more, keeping in mind the initial conditions we’ve had. So cheer up.

        August 11, 2013 at 9:22 pm Reply
        1. Retarddown

          Alliances haven’t disbanded ,, you find me one alliance from the tds that has closed, a relevant one at that, and mad? dude i hated been apart of tds so trust me im not mad

          August 12, 2013 at 6:05 am Reply
          1. JIeoH Mocc

            Relevant/non-relevant is all a matter of perspective, you see…
            From a certain perspective your whole coalition wasn’t relevant and the average grunt can’t tell INIT from ED so… you’ll all irrelevant in the same manner, the whole coalition – it’s gone now, you don’t have to be a part of it anymore, as each of you is trying to get a last bite at one another on the go.

            I applaud your attempt to save face with this line of reasoning: “Only my non-relevant allies kicked the bucket” while you retreat to somewhere where you can avoid their fate, keep on.

            August 12, 2013 at 7:02 am
          2. Devils Advocate

            Here’s another perspective: People who play computer games and call that an existence are irrelevant.

            August 23, 2013 at 11:18 pm
  2. Aristash

    LOH – this is destiny.

    August 11, 2013 at 10:01 am Reply
  3. lol


    August 11, 2013 at 10:30 am Reply
    1. Damage Control

      And get shredded in November by PL.

      August 11, 2013 at 12:04 pm Reply
    2. Random CFC Grunt

      Yes! Your time is now! You have noone left to fight! You have a chance now!

      August 11, 2013 at 3:01 pm Reply
  4. dichzor

    srsly, who here believed that init might win?
    hands up!

    time to run further away, eheheh. see you in great wildlands, after the Delve thing blows up horribly in your face, init

    August 11, 2013 at 10:42 am Reply
    1. JIeoH Mocc

      Well judging from few SOTAs, they did. And all of the sudden they didn’t.
      Have to say i am a bit disappointed, INIT stood out from the rest of the rubbish in TDS and they were a good fight when they put out.

      August 11, 2013 at 11:04 am Reply
      1. bla

        Ok nice we were doing shit, Phreeze goes on 2 month holiday, Init takes charge of his members, we start doing well. Phreeze comes back, tells everyone it isn’t fun anymore and sell all his space behind inits back basically taking the piss on all the effort Sister Bliss and Dark Shines made, they were the ones leading HIS members in battle, turning a shitpile of an alliance that phreeze had into a well oiled war-machine.

        Who needs enemies with allies like that?

        August 11, 2013 at 11:51 am Reply
        1. dichzor

          absolutely. what a douchebag

          August 11, 2013 at 12:19 pm Reply
          1. JIeoH Mocc

            watching some of his SOTA on twitch did leave some scent of douchebaggery, yeah.

            August 11, 2013 at 12:47 pm
          2. burn

            -A- is pet alliance of -DD- now
            everyone knows that.

            You sound like you are in -A-?

            August 11, 2013 at 5:33 pm
          3. JIeoH Mocc

            i guess opening something like eve-kill or battleclinic is beyond your abilities, i won’t break your tender spirit then – no, i am not in -A-.

            August 11, 2013 at 8:17 pm
          4. Stainres

            I’m in the Stainwagon (RTSQ) and -A- are by no means pets. They are the coalitions entire presence in AU/US TZs.

            If you have to describe us in terms of anything but coequals, then -DD- is the slightly bigger brother as we can reliably put together over 150 people courtesy of singular TZs.

            August 12, 2013 at 1:22 am
        2. JIeoH Mocc

          Don’t tell me you expect sympathy for making shit for allies.

          August 11, 2013 at 12:21 pm Reply
          1. bla

            The start of the HBC was pretty nice. We had quality fleets with test raiden and PL. And besically got dropped into catch. Then basically Test blew it all up allianating PL, then leaving the HBC.

            So we got a situation and tried to make the best of it. Considering most people though we would fumble in 2 weeks we did one hell of a job.

            We had a lot of good fights with the russians, but indeed it was just a matter of time till Gypsy Band and co. would prevail. A lot of people have mouthfull of -A- but it was gypsy band who basically lead the russians.

            August 11, 2013 at 2:02 pm
          2. JIeoH Mocc

            You have no clue who are leading DoD and Co. you’ll be surprised how many things you got wrong in that post. (not that i think less of my Gypsy mates)
            And as i sense it would destroy your inner world i won’t tear it down, ok?

            The start of HBC was very nice indeed, i bet. I remember all the smack talk about “social effectiveness” and that “space communism” and “shit alliances” etc. etc. as space was grinded away in Esoteria, and fights were had 200vs.600 in Stain and surroundings.

            But then “space communism” was destroyed all of the sudden, by the same causes that made real communism is impossible – people are basically shit, with egos and corrupted minds. And as soon as PLs meatshield decided it’s more than a meatshield – your whole coalition crumbled, leaving you with the rubbish.
            And the bunch of you, who chanted “-A- is shit, -A- is shit” just a few months ago are now retreating to kick a dead horse in Delve, carebear somewhere up north, disband, become sits and what not.

            In case you’re wondering if i am taking pleasure in rubbing this in, i am and i will.

            August 11, 2013 at 2:25 pm
  5. Dennis the Dreamer

    So Initiative. left to join CFC pets then afterwards become CFC renters? Good.

    August 11, 2013 at 11:20 am Reply
    1. Aralieus

      No they left to ‘help’ what happens afterwards is up to them ‘cough”pets”cough’

      August 11, 2013 at 7:10 pm Reply
  6. CFC or not CFC

    The CFC will take over all of null, vote up if your for this, or vote down if your against.

    August 11, 2013 at 12:23 pm Reply
    1. CFC or not CFC

      The CFC will be destroyed, vote up is your for this, or vote down if your against.

      August 11, 2013 at 2:48 pm Reply
    2. Captain Obvious

      Voting up comments is useless without action to back it up, otherwise it’s just small boys talking big words on the internet. Vote up if you agree, vote down if you don’t.

      August 11, 2013 at 3:58 pm Reply
    3. TiredOfAllTheStupid

      I live in a wormhole so who gives a damn, as long as they don’t find a way to prevent any moongoo from getting to market (to build guns & tank mods) it doesn’t effect me.

      August 11, 2013 at 4:26 pm Reply
      1. lol

        You can’t moon goo in WH space.

        You must be a high sec carebear and full of shit.

        August 11, 2013 at 5:55 pm Reply
        1. lol

          *Mine moon goo

          August 11, 2013 at 5:55 pm Reply
        2. TiredOfAllTheStupid

          I never said you could mine moon goo…

          You need moon goo to build T2 modules, as an EVE player who doesn’t suck I need T2 guns, other assorted T2 mods to pewpew.

          Therefore, as long as goons don’t interdict moon goo ie. T2 stuff, I don’t care who owns all of nullsec, because it doesn’t effect WH space.

          Train Reading 1 before you feel the need to spew your crap in the comments section.

          August 11, 2013 at 7:39 pm Reply
          1. Captain Obvious

            You must not have heard of their previous attempts with OTEC and their current push to claim as many moons as possible.

            August 11, 2013 at 8:09 pm
          2. TiredOfAllTheStupid

            OTEC isn’t news to me, that was a cartel to increase the price, not to cut off supply.

            August 11, 2013 at 8:24 pm
          3. Captain Obvious

            Controlling the supply is the same fucking thing, moron. They just didn’t cut off as much of the supply as would be needed, how else does the price go up? Supply and demand, with more demand than they were supplying. An element of supplies were cut off.


            August 11, 2013 at 9:51 pm
          4. Barkaway

            No its not Captain Moron, cutting off the supply means that you dont make any high profit on your product because all you can do is either use it or sell it to, well yourself..
            Controlling the marked means that you make way way more than you would have if you didnt..

            August 11, 2013 at 10:04 pm
          5. TiredOfAllTheStupid

            Controlling the supply OTEC style: Producing the maximum possible but withholding a percent to increase profits.

            Cutting off the supply: Producing the maximum and selling none of it, preventing anyone else from producing anything that requires moongoo.

            L2Read Captain Retard.

            August 11, 2013 at 11:30 pm
  7. Guess

    Cant coment on their plans but Figl (flying dangerous) were always a great bunch to fight with back in syndicate, since Flatline, Figl and other alliances moved out of syndicate, it’s not been the same :(

    August 11, 2013 at 1:00 pm Reply
    1. Guest


      August 12, 2013 at 9:51 am Reply
  8. eve news fail

    This is EvE news 24, only commenting on alliances that have fingered their arses.

    August 11, 2013 at 2:34 pm Reply
  9. Dumbledore

    INIT leaving Dinner Squadron is as much a tragedy as is the toilet contents leaving the toilet when I flush.

    August 11, 2013 at 3:15 pm Reply
    1. derp

      And yet there are some people that wish it to happen

      August 11, 2013 at 4:57 pm Reply
  10. Billbo

    “August 9th, 2013 the “Dinner Squadron” coalition disbanded”
    —AIDS and Herpes have more uses

    August 11, 2013 at 7:41 pm Reply
  11. obvious alt

    Innit have gone to kill pos’s and sbu’s in delve coz they cant kill fuck all else, they is so shit

    August 11, 2013 at 9:51 pm Reply
    1. Orti

      You are so well-informed sir! :facepalm:


      August 12, 2013 at 3:45 am Reply
  12. Eve Pirate VF

    EMP has always been a pet project of PL. Phreeze and former member corp Blacklisted (Unknown Soldiers) as well as others had been talking about riding the PL train to the far north since shortly after the Geminate and Kelavala business. So this comes as no surprise really. It was actually put out in the March FC and director meetings that this was a likely course of action. EMP has been on the move since the get go as an alliance, trying to step up and be like its big brother PL.

    Internally TDC was doomed from the start I think. A few opportunist in various leadership positions cornered the markets in Impass and gouged the coalition badly when the Catch JB route south closed. Sort Dragon was such a horribad FC that pilots from a good portion of the EMP corps refused to fleet up in anything he was involved with and if they found out he was in fleet command position the pilots would drop fleet and go rat or something. Unclaimed. tried, but failed to hold X-7 and other critical areas due to ASH.Unclaimed. split drama among other things., Sister Bliss sold out to the CFC.

    EMP is much better off on its own. EMP culture at the Phreeze and LShock level is fun, interesting and keeps those who want to fly and fight engaged. It was a lot of the externalities that really did the coalition in.

    August 12, 2013 at 8:21 pm Reply
  13. Alhana Starrbreeze

    It was really funny to read you all. About pets, wars, buying sov etc.
    DNS – it was a good time to fight vs you.
    And yes, we are raising and its good. See you next year.

    August 13, 2013 at 12:31 pm Reply
  14. Just saying

    More Space for INK to take. they are right next door to some of these alliances. would be nice to see that former renter alliance gro even more

    August 14, 2013 at 11:46 pm Reply
  15. Dsparil

    I think it’s rather amusing how the guy who could have been the leader of one of the most powerful coalitions EVE has ever seen managed to suicide it rather quickly and all because he thought blackmail was a great idea. He was definitely a guy who did not have all his ducks in a row and did not play with a full deck. God forbid should that worthless idiot ever find his way back into a position of real authority again. I’m very happy that he has finally been shown the door. I’m still quite surprised so many people sided with him when he did such a stupid and childish thing. I would have thought the alliances and upper echelon of HBC would have outed him after something so stupid. I guess God loves fools, because he made so many of them.

    August 16, 2013 at 10:27 pm Reply

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