Why to resist CFC? Why to lose Fountain when all we had to do is to bow to Mittens and keep it as CFC members? Why throw away HBC and pick up the “rebel” gimmick?

There are several alliances in the CFC. Formally they are equal. No one calls them pets inside. But, despite shared jabber, mumble and fleets, they are in separate alliances. “Separate but equal” was the legal justification of the Jim Crow laws which prescribed separate “white” and “colored” rail cars, restaurants, barber shops, pubs, schools, drinking fountains and practically all places. Legally they were equal, practically very much not. The “colored” versions were always worse, even when there were attempts to provide equal services. The reason for that is simple: the white users were generally of higher status, and they could leverage this for better services. For example an “only white” restaurant could charge higher on average, therefore hire more staff, providing better services than a “colored”, even when the individual customers had equal requests and money. This was the basis of the ruling overturning “separate but equal” stating that separation necessarily lead to inferior services to colored.

Even if there are honest attempts from CFC leadership to keep them equal, the pets get inferior treatment, due to the important figures mostly being Goons, and they naturally look after their people, while pets don’t get this attention. However I doubt if there are even attempts. From time to time we here this or that alliance kicked from CFC for “underperformance”. However Goonwaffe members don’t even have to comply to formal standards. The position of the line Goon is safe without doing anything, by his “birthright” of coming from SA. On the other hand if a pet doesn’t perform properly, he is punished. GSF had half as many troops to 6VDT than TEST, despite equal size. Will anyone has to fear consequences of this pathetic performance?

This creates and inequity between the line members of the core group and the pets. The legendary line was “you don’t talk back to -A-“, instead of “you don’t talk back to Makalu”. Makalu was a leader who had reasons to demand respect. But a line -A- was just as much an F1-basher as a line “pet”. Yet, he was treated better, just like white men over “colored”.

The CFC is in the state of the pre-emancipation society of institutionalized racism. There are “white” Goons and “colored” others. This is why TEST broke away from Goon pet state and kept fighting alone against the 3x bigger CFC. Being chased to Esoteria or Impass is better than being a pet.

It was asked if Tribe is a TEST pet? Since Tribe clearly cannot defend itself without TEST or from TEST, it holds its land only at the will of TEST. So Tribe had to do its best protecting TEST space, while cannot automatically expect the same. In this sense, yes, Tribe is a pet. The fact that TEST members and leaders never purposefully wronged them doesn’t change that. Human rights needs to be guaranteed by systems and not the goodness of the power holders. If you read TEST forums, you will find a suggestion from me to offer them alliance merge, exactly to stop this situation and make them one with us, change the “separate but equal” into “mixed”. Hell, I changed my forum signature to “Can we merge with TRIBE? We already fight as one, let’s be one!”

If you are a member of a stable coalition (as opposed to a temporary cooperation of separate entities, like BL and PL at Asakai), and the leadership isn’t from your group, you are a pet. Maybe a well-treated one, but still a pet. They might even “jokingly” use the N-word or other racist/sexist slurs on you.

It is not funny. Not at all.

– Gevlon Goblin

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  1. django

    In light of this post I here by call for the CFC to start internal tournaments of mandingo fighting with Talwars

    July 31, 2013 at 9:13 am Reply
  2. me

    Goblin is forking you all! GJ

    July 31, 2013 at 9:58 am Reply
  3. bitter vet dot

    i guess this site isnt free speach as i dont see my coment anymore hmm

    July 31, 2013 at 12:21 pm Reply
  4. Ynglaur

    Confirming that the CFC now whips its slaves back and forth.

    July 31, 2013 at 1:31 pm Reply
    1. CFC pet


      July 31, 2013 at 4:20 pm Reply
  5. JIeoH Mocc

    Meh, can’t actually believe I am responding to a Goblin article, but the audacity of this one as a blunt psychological warfare item is screaming hell in my ears.
    When the HBC was still alive and kicking, TEST, as the core of the HBC (I hope that noone will dispute that) performed the same as everybody else towards weaker “friendly” entities.
    Groups that didn’t perform up to the expectation of the “Big Boss” were removed, reset, denied of souvereignity (Zombie Ninjas, Out of Sight, Banderlogs etc).
    So, now the emancipator rises shouting “Let’s end these relationships and unite, merge, become one!!!”
    Well, I got news for you, elite economist-pvper – Uniting will not end the pet-boss relationships. Treating the weaker friend as a friend/equal partner, despite him being weaker, slower, less competent… treating him as equal despite of his weaknesses and faults – that’s what will end the pet-owner relationship. Not assimilating him, but allowing him his self-definition and accepting him as is. Don’t like that? Well that’s the reason it will never work.
    That, however, is simply unrealistic – people don’t do that, not in real life nor in game. Nor they will, you can call that conclusion by browsing over thousands of years of human history and the decade of EvE history. It will require a very specific type of role-play, so specific that these role-players will achieve nothing except running Lvl4 in high-sec, in a very friendly environment – true – but still, only that.
    Now, please try to think at least 5 minutes before you publish your load of BS, next time OKTHX!

    July 31, 2013 at 2:14 pm Reply
  6. Daniel Plain

    suddenly Braveheart

    July 31, 2013 at 3:23 pm Reply
  7. Shaun "Eve-aholic" Hansen

    Didn’t read the entire text, it was too boring, too stupid and quite frankly total bullshit.

    July 31, 2013 at 3:28 pm Reply
  8. CyberSarge

    One time a goon touched me, but I could not bring it up because I am not GSF. Really on the outside it might look like its unequal, but that is not entirely true. Rewards and punishments are based on your alliances participation in strategic goals. Everyone in the CFC has a goon diplomat assigned to them that is supposed to look after their interest inside GSF. With the new software its easy to gauge participation and thereby award moons to Alliances that have supported the CFC strategic goals. You may think that the systems strung out through the north are a reminder of GSF dominance, but its a carefully crafted JB network the GSOL maintains and all CFC get to use. In this manner a the CFC can move large forces from Branch to Pure Blind, Tribute to Cloud Ring, or Deklein to Vale in a matter of minutes. Their logistics backbone would make any army or business proud, if you do come upon an empty JB, someone will be there in minutes to refuel it. Also with a few exceptions, you can rat, mine, or plex where ever you have a mind to. And yes we make fun of each other and the many bad (stupid) things we do in Eve, but it’s all part of having fun in the game and no one is looked down upon (except for that guy that just lost ___). Frankly I would have to look hard to find this inequality you speak of it certainly not the feeling of anyone I have flown with.

    Not a goon, but an ally.

    July 31, 2013 at 5:02 pm Reply
    1. goonfucker

      thats false. i was CFC, and no allie is allowed to rat in Deklein where the best lowsec systems are. TEST allows for ratting throughout allied space freely. honestly, being in both, i found HBC and later TEST to be more inclusive.

      August 1, 2013 at 1:10 am Reply
      1. CyberSarge

        You are correct that allies are not allowed to rat in Deklein, but there are far from the best null sec ratting. And that no ratting policy changes if the CFC is deployed to Deklein and you can follow escalations into Deklein. Does this make us inferior to GSF? Not IMHO.

        August 1, 2013 at 4:26 pm Reply
  9. gevlon golbin is a jewish fag

    *Tribal Band*

    July 31, 2013 at 5:13 pm Reply
  10. Turd

    hahaha holy shit! Equating joining the CFC with accepting Jim Crow laws….. this has to be the saddest “CFC bash” I have read all year.
    When people absolutely hate a group or thing without reason the way some hate the CFC, they tend to embellish a few things. I think some people have gotten beaten or burned by the CFC and try to fabricate as much as possible to make the CFC look much worse than they are.
    Alliances and corporations are no different than sports teams. You pick a side and hate anyone else. If your team is beaten publicly enough by one specific team, they become a “rival team” and that is what is happening here. CFC is the team people love to hate who are not members of the CFC.
    Stop crying and dry your tears. You are just making yourself look really stupid.

    July 31, 2013 at 6:09 pm Reply
  11. Takezo Kensei

    We’re gonna have us a hangin!!!!!

    July 31, 2013 at 7:02 pm Reply
  12. FA grunt

    Just have to say in test your taught you are less than any of the grunts in test when your a pet l…with goons you don’t take shit like that from them. Yes being a pet is inevitable in the CFC but techixally aren’t you a pet to your leadership if your a grunt. Goons are good at having a economic leash on their pets test just sucks at everything so they use apreshion as a means of control

    July 31, 2013 at 7:51 pm Reply
  13. Dekk

    You have got to be the WORST writer on anything I have ever read. I’d use a game handle over my real name, too. Do you take a couple hundred milligrams of Adderal right before you start writing? This reads like the ramblings of a half drunk, fully coked out guy, annoying everyone at the party because he won’t shut the fuck up. I feel like Woody in this scene anytime I read one of your articles.

    July 31, 2013 at 7:59 pm Reply
    1. Dekk

      Honestly, you aren’t embarrassed to pontificate like this?

      July 31, 2013 at 8:02 pm Reply
      1. Goggles Pisano

        Says Dekk, writer of hundreds, if not thousands of opinion articles. A Pulitzer Prize winner no doubt. If you don’t like his style, don’t read he articles. If you disagree with his point, make yours. Otherwise STFU.

        August 1, 2013 at 1:54 pm Reply
        1. Daniel Plain

          …because if you are not able or willing make it better, you have no right to criticize anything ever.

          August 1, 2013 at 4:56 pm Reply
          1. Noisrevbus

            He is not criticizing though, he is simply stating oppinion.

            August 1, 2013 at 5:19 pm
          2. Goggles Deudigren

            Oh sorry seems I missed the constructive criticism in the post. Let me go back and see if I can find it….maybe it’s ‘don’t write drunk’. Great advice. my bad.

            Maybe you might wish to go back and read the post again and point out what I missed that GG can take away to improve his writing, other than ‘ you suck’

            August 1, 2013 at 5:30 pm
          3. Goggles Deudigren

            By the way I am not saying I agree with what GG wrote. Just that Dekk’s post is all ad hominem.

            August 1, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    LOL FA are pets thay are like the CFC gang banging toys

    August 1, 2013 at 12:57 am Reply
  15. confused

    CFC members get refered to as pets only by people outside of the coalition. In reality I have flown in plenty of fleets and been around the traps and never been refered to as anything other then mongoloid by Vee for doing something completley retarded. When fuck ups happen, titan losses etc there is a lot of banter and bagging out of those aliances/corps etc but fuck it’s all in fun.

    Your article could be compared to any real country. You’re American so that makes you Obama’s pet or you’re the pet of your boss at your place of employment. You will never be on the same level but you’re not segregated or anything of what you speak of.

    August 1, 2013 at 2:15 pm Reply
  16. Justin Cody


    August 2, 2013 at 5:13 am Reply
  17. I Love these kinds of tears. Every time I see an article sobbing about how bad the CFC is right after getting there asses stomped by CFC it makes me so happy. This kind of sad failed propaganda is exactly what CFC exists for. We love this shit so keep it up. The more you cry about the bully on the playground the more afraid everyone is of him, so feed fires, fuel some hatred. It genuinely makes me smile.

    August 14, 2013 at 3:14 am Reply

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