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Not long after I first started playing EVE Online, a buddy of mine who had been playing for a year or so by that time joined a large sov-holding null-sec alliance.  He soon reported that one of the membership requirements of his alliance was a monthly tax on all members.  I don’t remember the exact amount… but at the time, it seemed like a lot of ISK.  It was probably about 20 million or so per month.  He further reported that the tax was payable per character in the alliance.  I remember thinking at the time this seemed somewhat unreasonable to me.  After all, wasn’t the alliance getting the benefit of additional members to defend their space?  I was assured that this was no big deal and raising the ISK was quite easy.  All one had to do was a couple of hours of null-sec ratting, or it could be done even faster by joining one of the alliance’s weekly mining ops and turning in your mineral take.  After the membership tax was paid, all mining or ratting beyond that was pure profit.

If memory serves, the alliance in question — which I won’t name — was about a thousand or so characters at the time, which meant that the alliance had a monthly income of some 20 billion ISK per month or 240 billion a year, which struck me as almost other-worldly amount of ISK.  I was then informed that was only part of the alliance’s income and that there were also mining taxes, refining taxes, ratting taxes payable to one’s corp, et cetera.  Again, I was told that this was common-place in null-sec and every alliance did it.  And indeed when I joined Gentlemen’s Club myself sometime later, they did indeed have a monthly per-character membership tax and so I dutifully paid it.

Does this sort of thing still go on?  I haven’t heard about it in several years.  These days, the largest alliances finance their operations with more efficient and reliable means than membership taxes.

So you can imagine the amusement and surprise when it was declared that “TEST is broke” and they’d be asking for donations to maintain their ship replacement program for members.  And to the continued amusement of their enemies, quite a lot of people ponied up, to the tune of some 300 billion ISK so far.  It’s not insignificant money and it will fund a goodly number of fleet battles… assuming that TEST fights on after yesterday’s embarrassment.

Still, it’s been interesting to watch the propaganda war flow back and forth over TEST’s finances.

(6:11:40 PM) directorbot: FYI: Letting Baki Yuku into your alliance is almost as hazardous to its health as letting Gevlon Goblin manage your finances.

Mittens in particular has been having a good time with it, but he’s not the only one.  There have been pretty funny propaganda images about it, including this one…

This is quite possibly my favorite thing so far this year

Goons have always been excellent at propaganda, of course — it may be what they’re best at.  But it’s been kind of entertaining and amusing to watch the war of :words: over an alliance-funding technique that’s far older than the method the Goons have chosen.  The Goons, meanwhile, have everyone believing — hell, even including me and even including TEST themselves! — that such a donation drive is ample proof that the Fountain war is lost, almost regarding it as pitiable… and almost pathetic.  So you have TEST members and people giving donations struggling to justify their participation.

The irony of course, is that all of this is happening while the CFC wages a war whose entire purpose, you’ll recall, is so they won’t have to resort to such financing means themselves!

So yeah, I see the humor in it.  It’s kind of fun to watch and kind of fun to get caught up in.  What CCP thinks about it, I couldn’t tell you.  They’re staying (rightfully) carefully quiet and neutral about the whole thing.  Meanwhile, the propaganda continues…

(6:08:14 PM) directorbot: A TEST Logi director just went rogue and stole everything in their Logi hangars in Karan, NOL, K-6 and 6VDT, all gone. It seems like the leadership of TEST are officially abandoning ship and grabbing everything not nailed down.

One data point makes a trend, I guess…

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32 Comments

  1. Ha Ha

    My Arse would i pay a monthly tax just for the privilege of being in an alliance. A null-sec alliance has moons and from those moons the alliance gets a tax to pay for SRP and sov maintenance bills. Anything that is left over is meant to be put into the treasury chest or more commonly known.. the war chest.

    An alliance that begs for isk from its members is nothing more than a ponzi scheme, and i would NEVER join an alliance such as this. In fact i would spit on it and probably join their enemies out of disgust.

    July 28, 2013 at 4:43 am Reply
    1. lolster keaton

      but instead you didn’t join any of them and you are sitting in Jita 4-4 spinning your hauler.

      July 28, 2013 at 5:42 am Reply
      1. Dumbledore

        But it wasn’t for the lack of trying, though.

        July 28, 2013 at 11:23 am Reply
    2. Just Checkin'

      On the other hand there are players in TEST who want to see TEST win this war and they are willing to donate.

      I know that donate has no meaning for someone like you but that doesn’t mean anything.

      On the other hand I guess you have never joined a big alliance and played for real so…

      July 28, 2013 at 10:57 am Reply
  2. Rusty Boon

    If only the Finances were the deciding factor on the war. It also is the fact that their fleet comps represent their financial state as well as there lack of numbers and also that they are hemorrhaging systems by about 3-7 a day. For an alliance that spouts that they are 12000+ members strong, they have a poor showing of it.

    July 28, 2013 at 4:43 am Reply
    1. Ha Ha

      The likes of test and goonfags is only a shed ton of alts and dead trial accounts purely for the deceptive purposes which are obvious.
      But really.. Its tiny and test? Is utter crap. Utterly rubbish, goonfags come in as a close second just better organised now that they are neatly established.

      July 28, 2013 at 4:47 am Reply
    2. Just Checkin'

      So… You mean that Goons alone bring more people than TEST alone?

      Well… It would be nice to see some statistics about that if possible…

      July 28, 2013 at 10:59 am Reply
  3. Canaris Roshaak

    Don’t forget how goons kicked out asses in the SOLAR war too, without even firing a salvo.

    A lot of the other directors already know this and have started making preparations to heist everything they can. Nulli Secunda, Northern Coalition and TEST are already in the process of shutting down, it’s just a matter of time before we all burglarize our corp assets and run for the hills.

    Who knows, maybe with what I’ve got planned to heist I’ll be able to buy my place among the goons.

    July 28, 2013 at 4:47 am Reply
    1. Ha Ha

      GTFO with your propaganda goonfag lmfao

      You people never cease to amaze me. You stoop lower and lower.
      Goonfags are shit and all. The only reason you are not dead is because you have bought people who could utterly annihilate you back to syndicate if they so chose it.
      Winter is coming 😀

      July 28, 2013 at 4:51 am Reply
      1. U know who

        Uhh that was sarcasm… Canaris is in Nulli.

        July 28, 2013 at 5:29 am Reply
        1. Anonymous

          You might want to get checked out for brain damage if you believe that is actually Canaris.

          July 28, 2013 at 5:43 am Reply
          1. U know who

            Did you actually READ the post or just the name?

            July 28, 2013 at 5:03 pm
        2. Synonymous

          Uhh that wasn’t Canaris retard lololol

          July 28, 2013 at 9:33 am Reply
      2. Joe Knows

        You’re a prime example of the school grade social retards that are part of TEST and failed.

        July 28, 2013 at 6:19 am Reply
      3. Jesus Christ

        Sarcasm is not your strong isn’t it?

        July 28, 2013 at 12:04 pm Reply
    2. Anonymous

      COOL STORY BRO

      July 28, 2013 at 5:51 am Reply
    3. arkady

      unlike TEST (see; Gevlon Goblin) you can’t buy into Goons. We have an ironclad “no pubbies” rule. And you reek of pubbie love.

      July 28, 2013 at 8:58 am Reply
      1. Uh-huh

        Pardon, but how many BoB/IT directors have you packed in over the years?

        Yeah, thought so. Thank you come again.

        July 28, 2013 at 9:28 am Reply
        1. arkady

          You reek of pubbie love too.

          July 28, 2013 at 12:54 pm Reply
    4. N3 WarHQ

      another LNAW troll

      July 28, 2013 at 2:41 pm Reply
  4. Joe Knows

    You need to keep up with the news. TEST is all but buried in the ground with only two systems left. Fat lady singeth.

    July 28, 2013 at 6:17 am Reply
  5. Ral Foley

    I seriously fail to see the benefit of TEST and N3 collapsing, seeing as they are the only 2 entities able AND willing to duke it out with the CFC. And yet the CFC side on every EvE media outlet seems to spout that as the inevitable outcome. And worse yet, many of those twats seem to think that’s a good thing.

    Why oh why would anyone in null want to go back to the “Masturbation War” style of last year? Are people too short sighted to remember the pseudo-wars of last summer? The war-games of the winter? All of it was Just the CFC and HBC(RIP) pretending to have fun “GF” wars but still leaving that hollow feeling of 0 [real] accomplishment. And so if peoples predictions of the war pan out, we are in for more “Dullsec”.

    With that said, I’m sure Mittens will pull out a “Threat” or “Necessary Strategic Goal for our continued survival” to keep the Bees thinking they are furthering EvE and having fun. I can only hope they remember Fountain and know what fun really is.

    But whatever. I just hope they stay busy enough to stay out of my FW in Black Reach. We do not need their brand of “Fun”.

    July 28, 2013 at 6:40 am Reply
    1. Little Bee

      You talk as if the CFC is invincible, you think thats air your breathing ?

      July 28, 2013 at 6:43 am Reply
      1. Ral Foley

        Hardly. Someday (hopefully sooner rather than later) EvE mechanics will see to CFC’s downfall, whether everyone hating them AND doing something about it, espionage, good ol’ fashion internal conflict, or any combination.
        It just seems to me that, given the current course of things, this may very well happen. But as they say, give to hope.

        July 28, 2013 at 9:25 am Reply
      2. Fifi

        The problem is the lemmings following that one leader who is on permanent comms with a handful of other coalition leaders doing backroom politics.

        The RMT is strong in that group, so are not interested in putting each other out of business.

        July 28, 2013 at 9:37 am Reply
  6. ihaaaa

    Mayby CFC rent TEST Delve LoL

    July 28, 2013 at 11:07 am Reply
  7. Lowie

    I was in Majesta Empire once , part of Old NC , we had to pay 6mil each char. That wasnt bad , im sure it was a nice income for the alliance , dont remember how much ppl where in it.

    July 28, 2013 at 12:03 pm Reply
  8. rip TEST

    Li3 last month was claiming 23 mil per member tax…

    July 28, 2013 at 12:43 pm Reply
    1. bye test

      that was just a rumour

      July 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm Reply
  9. rip TEST

    no thats a fact

    July 28, 2013 at 10:37 pm Reply
  10. Jerry

    Even at the high of tech most CFC were charging there members to fight for them, it’s fun, but true.

    July 29, 2013 at 3:29 am Reply
  11. bitter vet dot

    well Test went down when they chase montolio away , u cant drive a empire succefuly using democracy in EvE , remember montolio wanted the war vs goons but majority of Test said no , now they are getting back to delve hmm , thats why CFC is going soo well mittan words are law

    July 29, 2013 at 1:32 pm Reply

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