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“Beyond my wildest dreams” is a new gimmick in TEST, coined by an awoxer who stole a smartbomb from the fleet hangar of a titan and awoxed some retrievers. He explained his actions as the value of the loot was beyond his wildest dreams and couldn’t resist it.

For more than a year I was suggesting that alliances should finance themselves on player contribution. I mean players already donate huge amount of time to their alliances, like flying stealthless-bombless stealth bombers grinding structures. If 200 people flying such crap for 2 hours without personal benefit is OK, 200 people ratting/mining and giving away the income (200*2*0.05 = 20B) should be equally OK.

But it’s not, because shooting an IHUB is awesome PvP fun, while mining is a horrible PvE activity that only carebears do. And no self-respecting PvP-er would tolerate filthy carebears in his alliance. Goons surely not who gave the order to their pet SMA to kick half of their members for being carebears. TEST is probably the only exception, with official squads for industry and ratting and people openly discussing ISK-making.

I recently rejoined TEST and suggested to have a killboard-like toplist for donators. It was built in record time. You can see it too, it’s not passworded, it’s open like the killboard. So, I offered 10B every month if they make it and foolishly offered to match any donations.

I expected people to give a couple ten millions. After all 1000 people donating one hour of ratting fruits is 50B. Corps may give a billion or two. Well, the results exceeded my wildest dreams. Members gave billions with ottawolf donating his whole saving for a supercarrier, 40B. Matching that was felt even by my wallet. Anyway, in the first few days of this running, 160B was collected, almost as much as the monthly moon income of Fountain. The list isn’t even complete, as many donated goods and not ISK, that needs to be manually added to the system.

This is just the beginning. Lot of people can and like making ISK, they just have no reason to. They farm enough to PLEX their account and buy a ship or two and that’s it. Unlike fleet PvP, there was no reward attached. No killboard, no people around to defeat or fly with. Now it became a badge of honor, these “carebears” are keeping the SRP running. Many will pick up their ratting or mining ship, pull out PI pilots out of the mothball or reactivate a highsec moneymaker. Because making ISK is no longer “spending unfun time for pixel money” but the mean to win the war. Also, moneymaking isn’t bound to fleet pings, you can do at any time, so it can overall increase activity. Please note that 1/3 of the donated money already came from the “long tail”, lot of little guys giving a few millions.

The propaganda of TEST bankruptcy will end just as fast as “N3 is destroyed by the sov-dropping director”. TEST can no longer bankrupt. Moons can be taken, members not. As long as there are members loging in, there will be ISK in the chest, therefore there will be SRP. As long as there is SRP, there will be PvP-er to fly them. As the funds increase, more will be available for “get your first battleship for free” or “hourly pay for structure grinders” or free slowcats.

The “Goon idea” has lost the war. Goonswarm may not as they shown fast adaptation skills. Maybe the next Mittani move will be evaluating corps based on ISK given to the war chest and everyone will be expected to recruit carebears. But the idea of “grr carebears, kill them all, PvP forever” is as dead as the master-pet system of BoB and -A-.

– Gevlon Goblin

PS: The donation board will also make the “you just made up your 0.5T” posts pointless. After all, it’s irrelevant how much I have. What matters is how do I use it. I think most of it will slowly but surely go to the TEST coffers. Also, my Ragnarok pilot will soon complete his skill plan, so I must get liquid for that too.

PS2, personal note: all services set up and logi pilot joined, stratops here I come again… too bad that most of them are US TZ which I can’t attend at weekdays. But there will surely be fleets in the EVE time 16-21 range.

His EVE journey show a very interesting “outside the box” approach to the game, PVE and the trade hubs, reason for which we invite you to pay a visit to his blog.

88 Comments

  1. I was tricked! the ramblings of this madman are normally clearly labeled :-(

    July 16, 2013 at 5:05 pm Reply
  2. cfc member

    i have to admit i dont hate the goblin as some people seem to do for their living..
    the idea with the donation baord was good and im happy to see it work out

    July 16, 2013 at 5:15 pm Reply
    1. O.o Grunt

      I agree, I will watch this board idea as I have had a similar structure in my head for a future Corp/Alliance idea. If it works maybe i can leverage the idea and adapt it into my own. Why not give credit where credit is due and show that we care about logi, ratters, and miners (and leadership!) just as much as the Pilots, and FCs that defend us from the big bad scares on our doorsteps

      July 16, 2013 at 6:07 pm Reply
    2. Dave The Rave

      I too am a secret goblin fan, i think he writes with his heart on his sleeve, people see that and try to kill him with it, i like it, the bragging posts could be done more tactfully but its his fukcing blog and he can write wtf he likes, i have no doubt all are posted here as he asks for no isk in return, i like the guy.

      At the end of the day 99% of haters are poor and have to bear for isk (like me), they hate that this guy is richer then them so they hate on him, its pathetic.

      July 16, 2013 at 7:53 pm Reply
  3. WH Dweller

    How I carebear lrn to donate?

    I’m not in test, but I want my iskies going to kill goons!

    July 16, 2013 at 6:10 pm Reply
    1. Good question

      I’m not sure what they are donating to either. Can you donate to an alliance?

      July 16, 2013 at 7:09 pm Reply
      1. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

        Yes, on the info page of the corp info to the Executor corp, right click and select “give money”

        July 16, 2013 at 8:16 pm Reply
  4. 2.4

    Came in expecting some kinda story about a Goon awoxing, or BoB 2.0

    Found Galvin post.

    Left…I thought Riverini was going to stop posting this crap during his CSM campaign?

    Looks like he breaks promises like the rest of them!

    July 16, 2013 at 6:16 pm Reply
  5. TEST Grunt

    “The propaganda of TEST bankruptcy will end just as fast as “N3 is destroyed by the sov-dropping director”

    Oh my god. is.. is this gevlon.. dunking on.. Mittens?

    July 16, 2013 at 6:34 pm Reply
    1. Dave The Rave

      LOL i loves it

      July 16, 2013 at 7:54 pm Reply
    2. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

      I do believe so.

      July 16, 2013 at 8:15 pm Reply
    3. Dudumarus

      super slam =))

      July 17, 2013 at 11:47 am Reply
    4. Tim

      HAHAHAHAHAHA
      No.
      This is Gevlon once again misunderstanding almost everything about EVE from basic mechanics all the way through meta.

      July 17, 2013 at 7:44 pm Reply
  6. Someotherdude

    I’ve always thought Glevon was an egotistical WoW fanboi moron, trying to play Eve and failing harder than nearly anyone in the history of the game. 99% of me still thinks that. (TEST WTF are you thinking?) However, this idea actually has merit. Let rich HS players donate to kill Goons – and they are willing is fantastic. Once Goons are ground to dust, close the donations. My abhorrence for Goons outweighs my disdain for Glevon it seems. Hypocritical? Maybe… but WoW fanboi actually did something useful for one. Mark the calendar.

    July 16, 2013 at 6:37 pm Reply
    1. Ming Tso

      Gevlon Goblin, the unironic saviour of TEST, who shall be known as the “Highsec Carebear who led TEST to victory against the CFC.”

      I can’t believe I’m believing.

      July 16, 2013 at 6:46 pm Reply
      1. Dave The Rave

        This should be a poster, make it so people.

        July 16, 2013 at 7:54 pm Reply
      2. CNN

        Alas, when NCdot departs this weekend all the isk in eve won’t save Fountain.

        July 17, 2013 at 8:10 am Reply
    2. btjunkie

      All the raving against WoW players is really retarded. I’m not a WoW player. Tried it, got bored, quit. It wasn’t challenging enough. I had friends who played hardcore though and some of the raids required quite a bit of skill.

      This isn’t a WoW plug. Like I said, I found it boring. But this refusal to intelligently analyze a person’s ideas just because they played WoW is more retarded than any 13 year old WoW fanboi.

      In this case what Glevon did was pretty cool. Yesterday I read about TEST clearing their reimbursement queue through a large donation. I thought, “That’s cool, but what are they going to do next time.” Now I know. Encouraging people to go out and farm some cash is a good idea. God knows there’s plenty of people in EVE who know how to do it.

      July 16, 2013 at 9:24 pm Reply
  7. Fartolio

    Test should rename their Homestation after you, Gevlon. Even their alliance.

    July 16, 2013 at 6:45 pm Reply
    1. TEST Grunt

      This is unironically a good idea.

      July 16, 2013 at 6:46 pm Reply
      1. Fartolio

        Ofc. Guy is really good.

        July 16, 2013 at 6:55 pm Reply
  8. -_-

    One way to boost donations, keep a tallie of the top 10 contributors and say once CFC are no longer invading and if TEST is still around, post those top 10 members names on your website or wherever. That would spur people to be competitive with their donations.
    Maybe Test could offer favors to the top 3 donating players? IE removing a system of POCO’s, Destroying a corps high sec POS, ETC. Just keep the tallies updated daily atleast and make people WANT to donate. This would also force some people to “put their money where their mouth is” so I would expect a 100b or soo donation from the goblin ^_^ you know, since he is in TEST and he is sooooooo wealthy.

    July 16, 2013 at 6:53 pm Reply
    1. Horux

      There’s a link to it in the post. The donation board.

      July 17, 2013 at 5:32 am Reply
  9. h8rs gonna h8

    As much as you all hate, you got to admit he does come up with good ideas. Even though most of his ideas are terrible, at least he keeps coming up with them.

    July 16, 2013 at 7:15 pm Reply
  10. Mahni

    This is actually very very very good. I think it works because the purpose of the money is laid out. If the wallet and reimbursments are transparent as well I dont think the members would have any problem with that.

    July 16, 2013 at 7:15 pm Reply
  11. apaolo

    I still dont understand why poelpe hate on “carebears” if someone likes to sit in EVE, listen to music and to the soothing sounds of mining… ahhh where’s my champaign. Some people play to compete, others play to relax. big deal. we’re all still in a pixel world playing cars and dolls. ha.

    July 16, 2013 at 7:22 pm Reply
  12. Foley

    And this resolve is why TEST has not rolled over and played dead like the CFC was thinking they would. Its the same resolve that saw GSF defeat BoB twice. So for all those crap posters that keep saying “TEST will be out of fountain in ” continue to be wrong. Good on ya TEST, Goblin, and everyone who helps keep the war going.
    If only PL had this resolve….

    July 16, 2013 at 7:34 pm Reply
    1. Wat?

      Holy crap this page does not like you “” things……

      July 16, 2013 at 7:35 pm Reply
    2. zeekthegeek

      If only TEST could show up for station defense

      July 18, 2013 at 4:29 am Reply
  13. Grunt

    Gevlon, this is one of the best posts you’ve done. Good for you.

    July 16, 2013 at 8:03 pm Reply
  14. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

    Congrats on fixing Test… Now let’s see you get em in fleets. BTW that won’t save you when you fuck up in Progod’s fleet… I wait for that with bated breath.

    July 16, 2013 at 8:12 pm Reply
    1. Dikreathz

      everyone keeps yammering about progods fleets, he can fly himself you know Dumass, and goons have the sabotage to deal with.. weither grunts know about it yet or not is irrelevant, its there.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:59 am Reply
  15. Moon tits

    160B was collected, almost as much as the monthly moon income of Fountain.

    July 16, 2013 at 8:20 pm Reply
    1. Bill Cat

      so that means Fountain generates about 5k a month is 1 plex = $15. No wonder Mitani wants it. I don’t know what I’m talking about either.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:36 am Reply
  16. heh.....

    Gevlon, fountain moons pull in a lot more then 160 bil a month. Did someone tell you that’s about what the fountain moon pull in, or did you just pull that number out of thin air?

    July 16, 2013 at 8:38 pm Reply
    1. random

      So, how much?

      July 16, 2013 at 11:24 pm Reply
      1. heh.....

        Well there is 80ish r64, which are making 5-8 bil a month, that alone is safely 400 bil alone, there is also another 80+ r34, then there is another 400 or so r8’s which can actually make decent isk when set up right for alchemy. I’m not acually going to toss out some random number of what all those moons will pull in, but needless to say it’s well over 160 bil as the r64’s alone pull in well over twice that much.

        July 16, 2013 at 11:35 pm Reply
        1. NoirWolf

          True but the difference between goo and donations is that donations are direct injections, goo is a product which needs to be shipped and sold. The act of selling itself has a tax based on value of the transaction, the jump freighter’s fuel also factors in and then there’s shrinkage due to possible jump freighter attacks by CFC or CFC-aligned forces. Compared to this a donation is money already in the bank so I dare say that while 160 bil might not seem like allot it will significantly boost TEST’s capacity to wage the war.

          July 17, 2013 at 12:42 pm Reply
          1. Heh.....

            I never said, or even implied that it was, or wasn’t a lot, only qouted what Gevlon said, and ask if someone in Test told him thats what the moons are worth, or he just made it up.

            July 17, 2013 at 3:00 pm
          2. Rob

            Uhhh, no.
            No alliance, not TEST, not CFC, NO ALLIANCE could keep up with a war of this size with any type of income. The war chest has to be filled well in advance and be ready for a pounding. Once an alliance is broke, it’s on its way out of the war. Unless TEST can get trillions of isk injected in a very short space of time, there’s simply no way they can progress.

            July 17, 2013 at 7:40 pm
        2. whats the net?

          Are there any costs that need to be deducted?
          What is the net?
          Are the ships generally insured to the corp to help with reimbursments?
          If so it seems impossible that test would have problems. Even if half of the ships they lose are part of the reimbursment program, it shouldn’t be a problem.

          July 17, 2013 at 8:22 pm Reply
          1. James

            As far as the cost of running a large POS on a R64 compared to what
            they pull in post odyssey, it’s rather small. 5bil a month is the net,
            of course this is assuming your shipping it to highsec.

            SRP is not the only cost an alliance has to worry about, there is the cost of holding the sov. itself, and system upgrade stuff like JB’s, which atm there are tons of in delve, like a ridiculous about of them in delve alone. How much the cost of sov. is in fountain, and delve, I have no clue. How much is the cost of system upgrades like JB’s in fountain and delve, I have no clue. How much is the avg. cost of SRP a month during this war, I have no idea. But it’s probably more then 160 bil, or 400 bill or whatever they pull in on moons, but I could be wrong

            July 18, 2013 at 7:16 pm
        3. David

          How are you figuring 5-8 bill a month on an R64?

          The highest R64 at the moment is Neodymium at 28k each. 100 per hour, 24 hours per day for 30 days, is a sales value of 1.95 bill, even in magical no fuel/no transportation costs/no market costs land. Even adding in the most profitable double simple or complex reactions adds a max of another 1.5 bill a month (if they magically predict market patterns to always choose the most profitable one). So you’re sitting at 3.5 bill a month, or less than half of what you’re giving the r64s credit for. And realistically, I’d probably put them more in the 2-2.5 bill a moon profit range, since running those reactions would leave them woefully inadequately defended.

          Also I assume he’s referring to alliance moons only, which means you aren’t counting every damn moon in the region. Especially since Goon holds a few at the moment.

          July 20, 2013 at 2:05 am Reply
  17. Johann from Tribe

    This is fantastic. Welcome Back Gevlon. Can’t wait to see how Mittens Spins this.

    July 16, 2013 at 9:25 pm Reply
  18. Realistic

    I look forward to time demonstrating how idealistic this post is It’s clearly written by a European with no sense of how Americans operate .

    July 16, 2013 at 9:40 pm Reply
    1. Provi Miner

      you do know that on average americans donate more money then almost any other country? part of it is tax breaks but most of it is without public applause. lets not forget how much company’s give away every single day. Yes the US is capitalistic, yes we are self centered, but we also give alot away because its the right thing. Very few are like galvin who openley talk about their giving but they give none the less.

      July 16, 2013 at 11:57 pm Reply
      1. Dikreathz

        yes and Americans are so in debt you caused a GLOBAL recession… keep your money learn how to budget DUMASS!

        PS: focus on the game… (beats head against wall)

        I like goblins appraoch he actually sees the true vslue and potential of dedicated industry types! and has found a way to integrate them into the PvP crowd so +1

        July 18, 2013 at 8:09 am Reply
        1. Sold

          says the guy that can’t spell dumb-ass

          July 18, 2013 at 3:24 pm Reply
          1. Dikreathz

            ??? seriously ??? all you got to troll with where did I touch you?

            July 18, 2013 at 3:30 pm
    2. I am not Tex

      You do go around bragging about how much you’ve donated in terms of money or time. You’re do it because you feel it is right, not because you actually gain anything from it.

      July 17, 2013 at 6:15 pm Reply
  19. Aonus_the_blaster_maniac

    Facts are easy to see.

    TEST is BROKE. and they dont hide that fact, they find a solution and their members are showing the ability to band together and stay afloat. unlike most alliances where once the alliance coffers go dry especially after welps and welps they slowly fall apart and everyone jumps ship.

    I applaud this group

    July 16, 2013 at 11:13 pm Reply
  20. Greblin

    Does Gevlon remind anyone else of Donald Trump ? Constantly reminding everyone how rich he is, and trying his best to make that relevant. It is good for him he was able to leverage he account to get into TEST when they were losing. My only advice is hold onto that wallet, as you might be loosing all these loyal friends you bought without it.

    July 16, 2013 at 11:24 pm Reply
  21. Rholak

    Having to take donations just to pay your bills is the very definition of being bankrupt. I am really beginning to believe Goblin got his isk by nothing more than scamming noobs, because he seems to not understand even the basics of macroeconomics.

    July 16, 2013 at 11:50 pm Reply
    1. Bill Cat

      Goblin could trade any of us under the table, he knows his stuff when it comes to that, am not here to defend Goblin’s PvP posts though

      July 17, 2013 at 3:30 am Reply
      1. Cake

        Pls stop saying shit like this, he’s in the mid leagues

        July 17, 2013 at 1:32 pm Reply
      2. Tim

        He doesn’t know shit about trade. HE knows you should buy low and sell high, which everyone knows. Anyone could make billions of ISK if they wanted to spend all day doing nothing but shipping stuff. I like to actually play the game when I get time to play however, so I live with having enough to plex my accounts and keep me in ships.

        If he knew anything about the economy or even just basic math, he’d know that a war costing a minimum of 150b/week is not going to be propped up by a few hundred bil donations. basically he’s throwing his cash into a pit never to be seen again.

        July 17, 2013 at 7:36 pm Reply
  22. Benefactor

    I know there are people out there, not in Test, not in the War, but wanting to help ensure the defeat of Goons. How/Who do the little people of Eve make donations to the Test warchest?

    July 17, 2013 at 12:46 am Reply
  23. N3 Scrub

    The idea of carebears donating isk to help the war effort is fascinating. The PvP guys get to fight longer and harder while the bears will have the satisfaction of contributing to the war. Test may have discovered the future of block level war fighting. Test with its army of cearbears and a legion of PvP pilots could fast become a war winning machine and force other Alliances to gobble up clearbears by the thousands just to compete financially if the donation method works in this war long term.

    Well done test for having a red hot go in this war.

    July 17, 2013 at 1:27 am Reply
    1. Random CFC Grunt

      The idea of carebears donating isk to help the war effort is fascinating. – …but not really new, is it? It’s called renting.

      July 17, 2013 at 9:20 am Reply
      1. Random Rebel Grunt

        Its not the same.

        If you are a carebear you can donate any amount you want/can.

        On the other hand if you’re just a renter you will just give the set ammount of money everymonth and thats it.

        Also If you are a pvp pilot but for some reason you can’t log in, you can donate an ammount of isk and still contribute to the war.

        July 17, 2013 at 11:27 am Reply
      2. Dudumarus

        nop u can’t compare rent with donation … If i take a sistem and i agree to pay 3 B/30 days = rent if i donate i choose the amount and i dont have any obligation to pay (it is my choice if i donate or not)

        July 17, 2013 at 11:40 am Reply
  24. Too noob to fight in 0.0 wars

    This question will probably be trolled out of existence, but seriously: What corp do I donate to for this?

    July 17, 2013 at 2:47 am Reply
    1. blue donut

      Upvote

      July 17, 2013 at 6:18 am Reply
  25. annon bastard

    It’s the TEST version of “Win the war, buy war bonds, Uncle Sam needs YOU!”

    Quite possibly master stroke in the canvas of Eve.

    July 17, 2013 at 3:39 am Reply
  26. Rene Winther

    I’m no GG fan, but the “kill board” idea is clever.

    The donating helps to secure the alliance financially, by motivating members to donate while at the same time rewarding players who donate with recognition. Getting members to donate is also likely to increase their loyalty, if you can get someone to donate a large amount of isk, it’s likely they will stick around to the bitter end.

    Eve being eve this does open the possibility of fraud, which on this level really could hurt an alliance, i think people react differently to their isk being stolen compared to “easy earned” moon goo made isk.

    July 17, 2013 at 8:01 am Reply
  27. CMB

    This is nice and all, but this war isn’t going to cost billions, it’s going to cost trillions.

    July 17, 2013 at 8:06 am Reply
  28. NoTech

    Is it just me, or is Glevon getting better ??

    July 17, 2013 at 8:49 am Reply
    1. Dudumarus

      nop u are right, that was a smart move

      July 17, 2013 at 11:28 am Reply
    2. Tim

      It’s just you.

      July 17, 2013 at 7:28 pm Reply
  29. blubblub

    i would laugh so hard if GG would rob test^^ perfect plan, make carebears feel welcome and donate their iskies to the “warchest” and then steal everything and say goodby mofo´s

    July 17, 2013 at 9:47 am Reply
  30. RIP Goblins Wallet

    Truly this is the best reverse scam test has come up with in years. Have toons donate huge sums of money from the wallet back into the wallet, and watch Goblin match them, when his money is gone and Test is up half a Trill, mission accomplished.

    July 17, 2013 at 4:40 pm Reply
    1. High Roller

      my thoughts exactly

      July 17, 2013 at 11:26 pm Reply
  31. CFC Grunt

    This… This is glorious. This means that when we are smashing whole fleets of TEST ships to pieces, not only are we making TEST broke, but we are making their individual members broke, we are making highsec carebears broke, and we are making Gevlon, whos knows too little about EVE to even be considred a player, broke. Thank you. This is amazing.

    July 17, 2013 at 7:32 pm Reply
    1. Where did the isk come from?

      If the cfc coffers are huge its only because they previously fleeced their members. Its not like mittani was grinding level 4s and is now generously giving it back to cfc members.

      July 17, 2013 at 8:25 pm Reply
      1. John Selth

        Didn’t they do a whole carrier drive and offer to cover the cost or part of the cost for training and or flying carriers? And yet they still seem to have tons of isk left over? I also here they still do SRP as well as a super/dread program. Seems to me that the isk generated from not only moons but also taxes is going back to the player base that helped get it. Large sums of idk is also set aside for maintaining the infrastructure that goons and the CFC have become firmiliar with such as a advance POS/JB network, station usage, system upgrades and other programs that make the coalition run smoothly. Don’t know about you but it seems that the money is being spent with the members in mind while also planning for the future.

        July 17, 2013 at 9:54 pm Reply
  32. Good Grief

    There is so much GG that you don’t know, that you don’t even know that you don’t know.

    July 20, 2013 at 6:19 am Reply
  33. SENX

    Bro I would not toss out those kind of insults with a picture like that accompanying your posts…sperg indeed.

    July 16, 2013 at 5:33 pm Reply
  34. exNortherner

    Right, cause it’s common knowledge that people playing WOW are subhumans and making a fair point about something that isn’t out of the ordinary in smaller alliances and that leaders of the bigger alliances actually discuss is idiotic.
    Arrogant indeed.

    July 16, 2013 at 6:00 pm Reply
  35. Jerry

    I don’t like Gevlo, but your a really bad poster, has anyone told you that? Like really bad, so bad in fact that you probably should stop posting, as your just embarrassing yourself.

    July 16, 2013 at 8:49 pm Reply
  36. The Observer

    I’ll just leave this here…

    http://puu.sh/3hBo3

    July 17, 2013 at 1:28 am Reply
  37. this ^^ is gold

    July 16, 2013 at 6:00 pm Reply
  38. Lowie

    Omg i lolled so fucking hard

    July 16, 2013 at 6:18 pm Reply
  39. DubbaYooArr

    literally laughed out loud at work.

    July 16, 2013 at 8:04 pm Reply
  40. The Observer

    Laughed so hard my fiance came to see what was so funny. I told her. She saw. And she too laughed hysterically.

    July 17, 2013 at 1:31 am Reply
  41. troll

    CFC is not an alliance but diagnosis.

    July 16, 2013 at 10:24 pm Reply
  42. The Observer

    OH, looks like someone planned out their comments. I’m not sure you realize, but I believe the subject at hand, Mr. Curtis, was the troglodyte in your profile picture. I do see you have changed it to some random person other than yourself. Congratulations! Our self-esteem assassination was successful.

    July 17, 2013 at 11:15 am Reply
  43. James

    That sounded a lot like “I’m rubber, and your glue”. What are you ten?

    July 17, 2013 at 7:26 pm Reply
  44. Ohgod

    You didn’t upset me. You see it was ME trolling YOU all along! :psyduck:

    July 18, 2013 at 10:56 am Reply

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