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The last few months have been fairly active politically and emotionally. People running for CSM. The Night Beagle “social experiment”. The breakup of Exhale and Transmission Lost, and the subsequent and highly controversial eviction of Transmission Lost from it’s home system.

But first I would like to start things off with some congratulations that are well in order for our two new CSM representatives.

Chitsa Jason and James Arget.

Congratulations to the both of you on your successful campaigns!

I would also like to thank the other candidates, Nathan Jameson, Ayeson, and Cipreh for being all around stand-up guys and taking the time and effort to run for CSM8. And a shout out to everyone in W-space that voted and got not only 5 of our guys on the ballot this year, but two representatives on the CSM.

So lets get to the more curious of developments.

As many know Exhale split into two different mercenary corporations. The Lithuanian corporations kept the Exhale name brand, and Polarized(dot) formed up out of the US TZ member corporations under the current leadership of Hathrul. This came as a result of Chitsa Jason being forced out of Exhale over internal political disagreements. Transmission Lost suffered a similar split leading to the formation of Existential Anxiety under Cipreh and Bane Nucleus (who has recently left EA). Shortly after both of these events came the highly contentious and controversial eviction of Transmission Lost by a Polarized(dot) fleet lead by Max Leadfoot. The response to this among W-space denizens has been extremely… polarizing.

Recently things got even more interesting with the expulsion of Max Leadfoot and Gang from Polarized(dot) over a 0.0 Sov null system. Here’s a recording generously supplied by an anonymous informant of the incident. It doesn’t get interesting until about 4 mins into the recording. I’ll allow you to draw your own conclusions about who is in the right or in the wrong.

Apparently disappointed with the lack of enthusiasm from another member to assist in taking the 0.0 system. Max started spending significant quantities of political capital. Ponies were invoked in the naming of stations, things were said, stuff was done, and ultimately Max Leadfoot attempted to stage a coup de etat in Polarized(dot)’s home C6 system while the rest of the alliance was away on an OP. Hathrul dropped the axe on Max, bearing a striking similarity to what Joffrey did to Ned Stark. The rest of the Leadfoot Clan followed in Max’s wake.

But wait! There’s more. Max Leadfoot was kind enough to contact me and let me know I should have done a better job getting the other side of the story. And he’s totally right. I should have done a better job. He provided me with a link to the meeting that followed the previous recording. Not the first time I’ve had to eat crow. When I fuck up. I own it. Here’s the meeting. It’s like two hours long. But, parts I felt were important to pay attention to start around 47m30s, around the 1h 10m to 1h 20ms. I’m sure you can all form your own opinions.

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My personal viewpoint.

There has been a set of unwritten “codes of conduct” in W-space. I won’t go so far as to say e-honor or e-morality, as that’s about as nebulous a thing as you can get. (Good is what you like. Bad is what you don’t like.) Most ‘Holers will just laugh at you and pod you for thinking about e-bushido. Anyway, in these “guidelines” there’s the “you don’t evict PvP corporations” clause. Basically the idea is that W-space isn’t that terribly populated. Especially at the higher end. Pilots are more condensed into fewer corporations in c5’s and c6’s. (Yet CCP seems to think that W-space is overpopulated. Eg, the discussions at the recent roundtable at Fanfest. Excuse me while I laugh.) After a while you all get to know one another. One day you’re shooting Hard Knocks, the next day you’re shooting Lead Farmers, the day after that you’re flying with Lead Farmers, Hard Knocks, and POSHU, while shooting at AHARM or Talocan United. (Because Two step deserves a good Welcome Back Party!) This has lead to many batphones being installed. And they had been getting quite liberal use as of late. And among some corporations, the frequent and liberal use of the batphone is a disturbing and unwelcome trend.

The premise behind this unwritten “rule” is that kicking out a corporation that is providing you with content would seem to be counter-productive to your future entertainment. Also known as the “Friendly Aggression Pact.”. In my opinion. “Morality” is a terribly subjective. Evicting someone in W-space really has very little impact on an already well-established corporation. PoS-in-a-box setups are commonplace and setting back up after a structure burn in your own homesystem is not a totally unrecoverable situation. It hits someone where it hurts the worst. The wallet. I’ve said it before on forums and in-game. In W-space, how you treat other pilots matters greatly. As evidenced by the recent turmoil.

Most of the older corporations in W-spaces started when there was a wild west mentality. Twenty to thirty man T3 AHAC gangs were unheard of. In the years since Apocrypha W-space has become far more domesticated. Hole mass limits are calculated with precision. The logistical difficulties of W-space have pretty much been conquered with automated mapping systems. Dread and Carrier proliferation is commonplace and cookie-cutter T3 fleet doctrines are the name of the game. Many are looking around at the state of W-space and just as quickly calling out to CCP for some additional content to be thrown our way. W-space is slowly starting to suffer from the same maladies that 0.0 is currently experiencing. Too many blues and stagnating content.

I personally feel that W-space has lost a lot of that orginal mystery. CCP should shake things up most definitely. W-space could use a new set of products to provide to the economy. Perhaps in the form of implants, modules, rigs or some mechanic that can mesh with Dust514. Sleeper Incursions have also been thrown around as an idea to freshen things up and make W-space residency a little more challenging, profitable, and risky.

All in all things in W-space are likely to only get more interesting with time as the polarizing affect of the Transmission Lost eviction will likely divide W-space into bitterly opposed factions.

~ Mouse.

78 Comments

  1. Some guy

    TLDR, wormhole scrubs got bored. Are any fucks rly given. Sort Dragon has gone "Mad King" and the HBC and the south is imploding more news pls

    May 6, 2013 at 2:58 pm Reply
    1. Nyv

      Or not. Test is leaving the hbc, but keeping blue with each of their neighbours, and Sort is hiding to avoid assuming his war declaration since the HBC without PL for lead and Test for numbers is pretty screwed.

      May 6, 2013 at 3:24 pm Reply
    2. arieglibber

      CCP should start with random stealth changes to the mass limit systems, system effects and static connections.
      THat should be good for a few 'WTF!??!?!?!"'

      May 6, 2013 at 3:33 pm Reply
    3. Comic book Guy

      The next CFC-Pet-block will be installed. The End.
      What an exciting fucking development.

      May 6, 2013 at 3:34 pm Reply
  2. Comic book Guy

    I think, politically this sounds way more interesting than anything that has happened in 0.0 recently, if only on a smaller scale.
    You really don't need "new stuff" from CCP to make that more fun. The shifting alliances, mid-scale combat and the fact that many "Holers" still know each other personally is something that 0.0 has lost almost entirely.

    Bat-Phoning might be the one development that's not just a PITA but also the shadow of a greater evil bound to destroy all fun in EVE: the formation of Powerblocks. Enjoy W-Space as long as you don't have that.

    May 6, 2013 at 3:08 pm Reply
    1. Nyv

      The thing is: there isn't enough consequences in wh. There is enough space, and even if you harm your "ennemies" by evicting them, you gain nothing personally. So yeah, the natural direction is the same 0.0 is seeing right now : NIP everything, go for arranged figths.

      May 6, 2013 at 3:23 pm Reply
      1. LoodFeat

        You are wrong, have you seen the transmission lost killboard? they are even in worse shape then before.
        They probably have to bring in every ship and carebear for a few month just to get back to active duty.
        So all that was done is remove them from good fights for 3 months… . Now that is fun, less targets to shoot.

        May 6, 2013 at 7:08 pm Reply
  3. EVE=GoT

    seems like everything in EVE these days seems to mirror the events of Game of Thrones in some way 😛

    May 6, 2013 at 3:14 pm Reply
  4. wh_blob

    Wormholes are just going trough the paces that other parts of space have gone trough, like nullsec. I know that wormholers like to think they are a breed apart, but really that's a bunch of crap. They're no different then anyone else. WH space is just younger, but sooner or later human nature brings to what is mentioned here. Eviction of 'gudfite' entities, blobs, batphones and so on. In on itself that is not right or wrong, it's just the natural evolution in a game where unfortunately, thanks to nerfs on antiblob tactics and weapons, over the years raw numbers have become the principal deciding factor.

    May 6, 2013 at 3:34 pm Reply
    1. dephekt

      In WHs it’s not about raw numbers. With mass limitations, blobbing is kept to a relative minimum; the largest fleet I’ve ever seen in w-space for PvP in a WH was around 119. The most recent TL eviction had less than that in total combatants. TL also can’t claim the ‘gudfites club’ because they weren’t really bringing fights in WHs in the months prior to the eviction, most of their kills were from roaming in k-space and their activity mostly PvE based. Not to mention their dismal display of home defense when they actually got invaded.

      May 6, 2013 at 5:17 pm Reply
      1. max is a bad alliance leader

        They weren’t structure bashing like you guys to pad the killboards… .

        May 6, 2013 at 7:03 pm Reply
  5. Ashimat

    Ironically, Transmission Lost had a organization that to a large extent mitigated the problems highlighted in the soundbite from Polarized. Somehow that got lost (no pun intended), and personally, I think that was the indirect reason for the split. Or at least for how it all went down.

    If Transmission Lost remember where they came from and what's at the core of the alliance, they could/should use the split to reform, rethink and grow stronger.

    May 6, 2013 at 3:41 pm Reply
  6. Jakes

    There are tons of people that have left nullsec, and said they will never do the nullsec thing again. If I joined a w-space corp, and they told me they were going to get sov. I'd laugh at them, and tell them I wasn't going to help ether. As far as I could tell the only reason they want sov. is so they can grind sec. status? Newsflash: you don't need to own sov. to go into null and grind sec. status, I grind my sec status back once every 2 or 3 months, and it takes me and one or two other pilots no more then 6 hours to go -3.0 to positive, and I don't need to drop any TCU's or worry about shooting SBU's to do it.

    Despite the leader of this corp/alliance saying he's lived in sov. space, he doesn't seem to understand that there is no point in owning sov. unless your planning on building supers, which I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that's not the plan, as supers are essentially useless to a corp/alliances that lives in a WH.

    May 6, 2013 at 4:11 pm Reply
    1. dephekt

      Max is stuck in the EVE past and it shows in virtually every decision he makes. He loves structure bashing: 600+ structures last month, 100% structures this month so far. If you want to participate in the game’s most boring and mundane activity, invading wormholes and ratting for sec status (?), then join up with Max. He’s been AFK for a while so he’s not totally bored out of his mind with it yet. Soon as that happens though, he’ll disappear overnight again.

      May 6, 2013 at 4:56 pm Reply
    2. uhm no

      there are wspace alliances that have supers. Titans in lowsec for bridging and supercarriers in null for dropping ratters.

      May 6, 2013 at 5:14 pm Reply
      1. dephekt
        May 6, 2013 at 5:19 pm Reply
      2. Jakes

        Like I said, essentially useless to a corp/alliances that lives in a WH.

        May 6, 2013 at 5:25 pm Reply
        1. uhm no
          May 6, 2013 at 5:27 pm Reply
          1. Jakes

            I never implied people that live in WH's don't have supers, learn to fucking read dude, they are not useful for where they live.

            May 6, 2013 at 5:30 pm
          2. FA forever

            How do kills in nullsec help in W-space?

            May 6, 2013 at 5:32 pm
  7. nullbears suck

    This news is just in : a large part of ANGST leaves wormholes to join the max leadfoot 0.0 alliance. ANGST is failscading… .

    May 6, 2013 at 4:19 pm Reply
    1. dephekt

      They need another group to latch onto for survival as a corp. Cipreh isn’t a strong leader, which he’s aware of, and their pilots aren’t strong FCs or PvPers. He needs to be attached at the hip to a stronger entity or he won’t be able to provide any meaningful content for his corp. Not hating, just saying, he’s doing what he’s gotta do and Max can be a convincing orator if you get wrapped up in his ideology.

      May 6, 2013 at 5:03 pm Reply
  8. DarthNefarius

    "W-space is slowly starting to suffer from the same maladies that 0.0 is currently experiencing. Too many blues and stagnating content."

    All of Eve is dealing with ever more stagnating content. I hav't heard of any new content yet except for EURO TZ live events. All these fixes over the past 1-2 years need some content added too ( WH sites, missions/anom revamps, Incursions )

    May 6, 2013 at 4:28 pm Reply
    1. Curse Resident

      Bring on the Serpentis drug cloud incursions

      May 6, 2013 at 6:06 pm Reply
  9. a monkey

    lol Max Leadfoot's voice sounds like the Mittani.

    May 6, 2013 at 4:29 pm Reply
  10. Alskari

    To me the rework of the pos system will determine the fate of WH space. If the new system makes it so large numbers of people can live together w/o concerns about stealing, you'll see a big increase in WH population. If the new system incentivizes pvp (destroyable modules which drop loot or something) you'll see lots more fighting and raiding. There are a huge numbers of changes which could easily affect WH life, and very little indication of CCP's plan.

    Without knowing what's planned I think any conjecture about the long term future of WH space is premature.

    May 6, 2013 at 4:43 pm Reply
    1. I just do not know

      They are not going to make modular POS's sadly…

      May 6, 2013 at 6:29 pm Reply
  11. cas

    we dont need it. thats why we dont have it lol.

    May 6, 2013 at 4:47 pm Reply
  12. Omen Nihilo

    Not sure why Max Leadfoot's group needs sov to play in nullsec…

    You don't need sov to roam nullsec. :S

    In fact, roaming from wh space is so much more flexible: you're not confined to one system—you can have 10+ different nulls at one time.

    May 6, 2013 at 4:58 pm Reply
    1. whler

      one word: epeen

      May 6, 2013 at 5:52 pm Reply
  13. 2Cents

    This article is more like the Enquirer or The POST. Although some of the events, such as ExCorp leaving is true, the rest not so much.
    Leadheads agenda did not fit in with the alliance foundation. We're not Null Sec'ers, only former ones with no interest in politics.
    You can't be merc's and have fun in blowing ships up if everyone is blue in half o Eve.
    Poor article on the events. Besides, it's none of your damn business.

    May 6, 2013 at 5:03 pm Reply
  14. StarFleetCommander

    DRAMA!

    May 6, 2013 at 5:28 pm Reply
  15. DJizzle

    Max is an absolute douche bag. Guy is so full of himself and full of shit it makes me look like an amature at it. Surely hope he burns in a ball of homosexual flames. Max you are a flaming faggot who wants to go to null and collect isk. WHs are the about the pvp you faggot atleast you used to know that. Suck a fatty dipped in coffee

    D

    May 6, 2013 at 5:57 pm Reply
    1. Max Leadfoot

      DJizzle, you made my day with this comment. This is definitely in my top 10 of all-time personals, and I can only say not only were you creative but you somehow managed to work coffee and genitalia into a single insult. Thank you!

      May 6, 2013 at 8:30 pm Reply
      1. random observer

        i like how you upvote your own stuff.

        May 7, 2013 at 12:23 pm Reply
  16. Lord's Servant

    I'm not sure what to say except this article is hilariously and blatantly wrong about the events.

    I am actually a member of said corp/alliance(s). Please interview someone who actually knows what happened. This is so far from the truth of what happened it's not even funny.

    I say this so often..but honestly….DO SOME RESEARCH before you post.

    I'd be up for this if you're interested.

    -Lords

    May 6, 2013 at 7:47 pm Reply
    1. poopy

      You are one of the main reasons EXCRP was kicked.

      May 6, 2013 at 11:10 pm Reply
      1. lol

        lol

        May 7, 2013 at 2:00 am Reply
      2. Lord's Servant

        That's pathetic, and untrue for two reasons – but only one of them needs be stated to prove them both wrong.

        EXCRP wasn't kicked. 😉

        -Lords

        May 7, 2013 at 3:16 am Reply
        1. WWW

          You're right, EXCRP was asked to leave. Same difference.

          May 7, 2013 at 7:26 pm Reply
          1. Max Leadfoot

            We were not asked to leave. In fact, we were talked into staying for a short time when things still could have been worked out. True, some of our assets were already moved at that point. Our corporations were not a match on several levels, and there are no hard feelings from this side. Believe what you like, Mr. WWW.

            May 8, 2013 at 2:45 am
          2. lol

            excrp was asked to stay, but they didnt want to deal with obstergo any longer, what do you expect of a corp where the ceo gets changed every week, good luck obstergo and pls guys finally grow up

            May 8, 2013 at 8:02 pm
  17. Arion Flax

    This article is a complete sham, and Incindir Mauser as a content source is nothing but a pawn in the political motivations of others. Clearly, he didn't even speak to all parties involved before writing this story… something we all expect these kinds of sources of content to do.

    I'm not a personal fan of Max but the truth is he and Explorer Corps did all the work in Polarized. I was on TS when Hathrul wanted to kick Obstergo and PP the day EXCRP left on their own, (there was no kick or beheading anyone as falsely reported) as Hathrul was just switching back and forth between channels pretending to be on both sides depending on who he was speaking to.

    Truth is, Hathrul doesn't do anything betray the trust of those he works with… just like he did Chitsa by not getting him involved in the alliance change. (Chitsa was not forced out, as reported, but decided to leave)

    May 6, 2013 at 8:20 pm Reply
    1. lol

      yea seems some ppl are butthurt, besides they are talking shit all the time, i mean for example and since you already posted that soundcloud thingy (guess thx to dasani), max was out in 0.0 like you can hear, so how could he try to take over whatever when it was him being out in null while the rest of polarized was sitting in their towers doing nothing

      on a side note: first they complaining about taking sov and when excrp left, they started to complain about that excrp took sov with them, second yes its true, hathrul wanted to kick obstergo and pp and not only the day excrp left, he is saying that for a while now, was even a reason the decission to form a new alliance was made without them, shame to be a part of this alliance, excrp did alot of work

      May 6, 2013 at 8:35 pm Reply
      1. Arion Flax

        I think you hit on something here. Look at Polarized. this month: http://polarized.eve-kill.net

        No wonder why they can't move on, they are clearly weakened. Interesting thing is the kills Polarized DO have are all in nullsec, exactly what they were arguing against in that audio file. At the same time, Max and his "clan" seem to be fighting a ton in wh space.

        I don't understand what is the Polarized stance on this. A few corps decided to go back on their word and not fly in nullsec and basically flipped the bird to N3. Even if they did kick EXCRP why are they just roaming in null all the time after being so angry about roaming in null? Makes zero sense.

        May 6, 2013 at 8:50 pm Reply
        1. lol

          still sure that whole thing has nothing to do with the null, obstergo and pp are still butthurt that the alliance got made without them being asked before (they got told they are welcome to join, thats all), plus hathrul constantly asking max for help not them, guess some ppl wanted more power and didnt see that happening as long as max is in the alliance, they just used the null to start bitching

          May 6, 2013 at 9:12 pm Reply
        2. Looool

          Let me see the Tons off bottels or do you mean the pos middels thy kild

          May 6, 2013 at 10:09 pm Reply
        3. WWW

          It wasn't about roaming null, it was about our attentions being so divided it would split the alliance and the fact null was becoming more of a focus than Obs and PP wanted.

          Your link to the killboard shows a lot of WH kills to me…out of 16 kills, 2 of them are NOT in wh space.

          For the majority of people posting on here, I am willing to bet plexes none of you are even currently part of Polarized, instead you are random people who read the misguided article Mauser wrote and decided to playact as one of our members. People are glad the sov and the station are gone.

          The difference between Max and EXCRP and the rest of Polarized (besides Hath who was a mutable element) was the way the alliance was viewed. Max liked to treat the alliance as one unit, as a single entity, and while this isn't inherently bad, he paved over a lot of other people's opinion's to push his agenda. Obs and PP on the other hand viewed the alliance as a gathering of like minded corporations, each one operating on its own terms so long as they were similar to those of the other corporations and didn't jeopardize them. For this reason, those in Obstergo and Probe were packing their stuff in (excited) anticipation of getting the whole deal over with, to get out from under the shadow of Max and the relations he made with N3. It came to us as a surprise when Hath turned it around and had EXCRP leave.

          Simply put, Obstergo and Probe Patrol were not going to sit around and let decisions be made for us. If that was the case, we were prepared to leave.

          May 7, 2013 at 7:41 pm Reply
          1. Arion Flax

            Listen to the leadership meeting audio… it was clear max was doing what polarized leadership had asked for. If he wasn't doing what they asked for, why were they pretending he was?

            It kind of looks like you asked for something, got it, then refused to take responsibility. Then, you blamed it on the corp that delivered and drove them crazy until they left. If Hathrul made them leave why is he saying he didn't and asked them to stay? Hathrul seemed very supportive of max and explorer corps in that audio, and it just doesnt jive with some of your comments.

            If you were not going to sit around and let decisions be made for you, then why did you do exactly that when they changed the alliance name? Werent pp and obstergo told things were happening regardless of what they thought? You didnt leave then, did you? Why? Because you seem to be whiney children and not leaders, and ultimately all you did was drive off a real strength that made you better than you actually were.

            May 8, 2013 at 2:01 am
          2. WWW

            "Werent pp and obstergo told things were happening regardless of what they thought? You didnt leave then, did you?"

            No, we weren't even told then. The separation was a surprise for us, and when the new alliance was named, "Hole Control", not only did we balk because it was a terrible name, but also because it was just made for us, and nobody was even asked what they thought of it. Once Max explained why the split happened, it made sense to us, even though we sure didn't like the way he handled that. For that, most were willing to let it slide because leadership from all the corps got in the game together and made the new name, Polarized.

            During the time between that and the excision of EXCRP, Max slowly started to pick up speed on his agenda again. In the space of a couple weeks, what came as a proposal to the alliance from him to be blue with Nulli so we could participate in their fleets for a change of taste quickly turned into having sov and holding a station, which was more than what members wanted.

            If EXCRP left because they were "driven crazy", why this butthurt thread? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts
            And why is Hathrul saying "confirming everything, might have skipped over the part with words"?

            If Hathrul was that damn supportive of Max, he would have told Obs and PP to leave, and that certainly hasn't happened.

            May 8, 2013 at 4:30 am
          3. Arion Flax

            It doesn't appear to me that EXCRP was responsible for that thread, because that thread basically insulted them the entire time. I think they even responded for the op to shut his piehole. I'm not sure how you believe your logic is in a nice spot building a case from an anonymous post using another anonymous post as your main point.

            Plus, generallly when people post "confirming everything" it is meant to mock the post. Not sure how you can't see that, but you are apparently quite dense. I can't really debate someone who can't pick up the basics.

            May 8, 2013 at 10:53 am
          4. lol

            If Hathrul was that damn supportive of Max, he would have told Obs and PP to leave, and that certainly hasn't happened.

            hathrul keeps saying he is going to kick obstergo and pp since weeks now, even when they have been exhale, dont know why he isnt doing it, but since excrp left i guess he needs that bunch of little kids

            May 8, 2013 at 8:00 pm
          5. Dirty Ole Bastard

            Simply put, Obstergo and Probe Patrol are college kids and the other corps were a bit older. They have an authority complex, and when confronted with having to follow their own corp leadership they rebelled and looked for excuses to blame others. This is pretty clear when comparing those audio files.

            May 8, 2013 at 2:08 am
    2. i haha on you

      cool story brah….. you are really mad :)

      May 6, 2013 at 11:07 pm Reply
  18. Polarized. Audio

    This article is nonsense. The below audio recording is Polarized leadership discussing our null plans, how the posted audio above was completely killed, and how Hathrul thinks Posthuman is shit. Incindir Mauser clearly did no fact checking on this story whatsoever.
    https://soundcloud.com/user842219698/polarized-le
    47:00 & 1:15 & 1:17

    Explorer Corps decided to leave the next day, noone was kicked, and there was no coup. Polarized. leadership betrayed N3 and their hardest-working and best killing corp by reversing themselves on a decision that was already made by leadership. Polarized have continuously released false information to manipulate parties like the writer of this post, just to save face… and they have not shown any ability to move on from this issue.

    May 6, 2013 at 10:18 pm Reply
    1. i haha on you

      this guy is really mad ^^ its funny :)

      May 6, 2013 at 11:06 pm Reply
  19. What?

    Lol at that Max guy. He is one of the people always taking the words out of someones mouth it seems like and is just talking out of his ass and that annoying bitch he has as a whinny pet. All his blabla about teamplay and the greater good sounds like directly taken from some tutorial book for medium-sized-business managers (and a bad one at that).

    No matter what the story here is, he seems to be an unpleasant fella to deal with. If someone in my alliance would dare to talk to me like that i would just lol hard, pack my stuff and gtfo.

    May 6, 2013 at 10:20 pm Reply
    1. EXCRP grunt and fart

      confirmed max loves to bitch. the funny thing is the 2 people who spoke up to defend max are 2 people who actually bitch more than max. its pretty bad over here in EXCRP atm

      May 6, 2013 at 11:14 pm Reply
      1. Max Leadfoot

        Confirmed you are really upset about something, how much did we cost you?

        You have already posted under my name 30 something times, pretending to be me, what makes you think we'll buy it as you posting as "EXCRP grunt".

        May 6, 2013 at 11:32 pm Reply
  20. Omen Nihilo

    Polarized. isn't even 2 months old and already so much drama…

    May 6, 2013 at 11:04 pm Reply
  21. 2Cents

    To the author of the posting, when ExCorp left it was amicable and on good terms.

    Therefore the individual who was crass, probably was the corps thief. So go away and troll somewhere else.

    When indiviuals improperly leak information only to create unnecessary drama, I call bullshit.
    Is LeadFoot strong willed and strongminded? Yes, but he's a brilliant FC and as should all field leaders, a dictator.

    Peace be with you and find pew.

    May 6, 2013 at 11:07 pm Reply
    1. LordCyper

      Max is a great FC.. the short time i was in ExCorp i enjoyed flying with him.

      May 8, 2013 at 1:54 am Reply
  22. efraya

    Well this article is about as accurate as a drunken Russian at an archery contest.

    May 7, 2013 at 10:10 am Reply
  23. WWW

    Obstergo and Probe Patrol from the newly formed Polarized alliance were not happy with the fact the null station was slowly starting to become a more important shift of attention for the alliance than wormhole space. The day we were ordered to CTA to defend the null station, many of us simply said, "no" which was inviting a split within Polarized. Many thought Obstergo and Probe were going to be leaving together to stick to wormhole space with roams anywhere for pew, but we were surprised when Polarized leadership managed to single out Max and EXCRP for separation instead.

    Since then, TS for the alliance has been considerably happier and many people who left during the time Max was the driving force for the direction for Polarized have returned. Right now I can tell you most members are not that interested in the drama within w-space at the moment, only really wishing to continue with daily pew and making isk to buy shiny ships to shoot with and be shot at in. Leadership form all three corporations within Polarized have all been getting along quite well, so don't expect another split any time soon.

    May 7, 2013 at 7:14 pm Reply
  24. PolarIceCaps

    Polarized. EU TZ got a whole lot less cranky since ExCorp left.

    Also, the nulllbears complaining about how "Polarized. betrayed N3 wahh" must be really butthurt about getting their farming systems evicted.

    May 7, 2013 at 7:45 pm Reply
    1. Vince

      Clearly from a Polarized member. What systems of ours did you evict exactly? Do you mind if we return the favor then?

      May 8, 2013 at 11:07 am Reply
      1. PolarIceCaps

        Please do.

        I would actually be interested in seeing how many of your members you could convince to go enter the spooky WHs to fight the WH boogeymen.

        May 8, 2013 at 9:14 pm Reply
  25. Moo

    This just in: two groups have differences (leadership style, opinions, sexual orientations, whatever) and split up. Heavily biased one-sided report makes the front page including a healthy mix of truths, half-truths, and outright lies followed by more of the same in the comments.

    Drama ensues.

    May 7, 2013 at 9:59 pm Reply
  26. Chitsa Jason

    Facts:

    Polarized. is mix of EU and US players.
    Chitsa Jason was not forced out of Exhale. but decided to leave.

    Plus: Primary everything!

    May 7, 2013 at 10:35 pm Reply
    1. Chitsa Jason

      Ups Polarized. 😀

      May 7, 2013 at 10:36 pm Reply
    2. TurboX3

      Much <3 for Chitsa & Max, Polarized still loves them…. All trolls should grow up & get a real life…..

      PS: Chitsa where's my cokies?

      May 7, 2013 at 10:51 pm Reply
      1. TurboX3

        *cookies

        May 7, 2013 at 10:52 pm Reply
    3. WWW

      "Primary Everything!"

      Confirming this is Chitsa. <3

      May 7, 2013 at 11:57 pm Reply
  27. Turtle Lover

    i like turtles

    May 7, 2013 at 10:42 pm Reply
    1. Hax Redfoot

      fuck you tortoises are better

      May 7, 2013 at 10:43 pm Reply
  28. Max Leadfoot

    i like turtles too

    May 7, 2013 at 10:45 pm Reply
    1. Max Leadfoot

      Why do I like turtles? Posting as someone else is a bit creepy you know..

      May 8, 2013 at 1:41 am Reply
  29. – Chitsa was not kicked or asked to leave, he left on his own.
    – Explorer Corps was not kicked or asked to leave, we left on our own.
    – Tons of third-party opinion, but little substance from people actually involved… as usual.

    Some of the corps in Polarized. had some basic differences that could not be resolved. We left on good terms, carry no hard feelings… and have moved on. We have had no public articles or releases written from our perspective.

    May 8, 2013 at 12:14 pm Reply

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