solar_fleet

We owed a proper battle report for SOLAR FLEET victory in the P7-45V solar system and here it is.

Last Friday several timers were coming up for SOLAR in P7-45V, Cache. Red Alliance had formed up an Armageddon fleet to do some shooting, counting on N3 to come in with slowcats to help for the structures. Seeing what was happening SOLAR formed a 130 Maelstrom fleet in response, together with a 30 man drake/welp cane fleet from SOLAR WING, jokersDOT and Protocol 13.

Order of Battle

Red Alliance started by incapacitating the cynojammer on a POS, although they lost several logistics ships to POS guns. Then they went to the I-Hub and started shooting it, with the N3 slowcat fleet jumping in to help taking the structure down. The SOLAR Maelstrom fleet warped in outside range from the combined N3/RA fleet (some 120-130 km), hoping to pick off some Red Alliance stragglers or anything that got within its range, yet unwilling to commit to a fight versus the N3 slowcat fleet.

At this point, whether because of miscommunication or hubris for feeling invincible, the Red Alliance FC committed a tactical mistake and decided to have his fleet MJD into the SOLAR FLEET. They jumped to 20-30 km on the SOLAR fleet and battle was joined. RED has close range battleships that could rip apart a Maelstrom fleet at short range, however because of the MJD they had left their logistic ships behind as well as leaving the protective sphere of the slowcat fleet which couldn’t rep or support them at that range, while also being unable to warp to them because they were below 150 km from them. This allowed SOLAR FLEET to make short work of the Red Alliance battleship fleet.

It was now when the N3 capital FC committed a tactical mistake as well. He managed to get a warpin towards the SOLAR fleet so he warped his slowcats towards them, without having any subcapital support. This was a grave mistake. The SOLAR Maelstrom fleet warped off to regroup and came back into the fray while SOLAR FLEET interdiction wing bubbled up the N3 slowcat fleet.

The SOLAR FC had judged the situation correctly: the N3 slowcat fleet was in an extremely vulnerable position and without subcap support. Supers were called in (23 of them) and cynoed in at 50 km and aligned out. They started to work on the N3 slowcats in earnest because they knew that they had only a small window of opportunity before N3 reinforcements arrived. And indeed, as soon as the N3 capital FC realized the precarious situation he was in, help requests were sent to N3 and Pandemic Legion to extract them from their predicament. Pandemic Legion formed in short order (other accounts mention that the PL super fleet was ready to hotdropone hour before shit hit the fan) however problems with a mid cyno that went to grab a sammich (well, dinner technically, but food related AFK welps are called this way nowadays) made them lose valuable minutes. SOLAR FLEET made very good use of this time, pounding carrier after carrier. RA cyno dictors that had cynoed in previously tried to burn towards the SOLAR supers fleet but they were shot down one by one. When the Pandemic Legion reinforcement fleet did arrive (about 30+ supers with an undetermined number of carriers) it was already too late. Over 47 slowcats had been killed and when PL cynoed in the SOLAR supers fleet disengaged and got out with the Maelstrom fleet following suit.

All in all it was a good fight. It showed very well the weaknesses of slowcat fleets; as any capital fleet it is very vulnerable without subcap support and can be countered even when outnumbered on the strategic level as long as one is ready to escalate and bring in a capital or supercapital fleet. The SOLAR FC did a great job. His situational awareness was very good; he made the right calls and executed his tactics in excellent fashion. SOLAR once more showed that they are true Slavic Vikings and it’s a joy fighting against them.

Video

A SOLAR logi viking made some really nice videos from their side, here’s the links:

SOLAR FLEET Battle Report

89 Comments

  1. CCP?!?!?!

    Still doesnt beat u93o :/

    March 11, 2013 at 6:45 pm Reply
  2. old timer

    too bad CFC deosnt wants to go full in and help solar : N3 would simply go back to factional warfare.

    March 11, 2013 at 6:49 pm Reply
    1. fagdul

      like in asakai ya?

      March 11, 2013 at 6:58 pm Reply
      1. old timer

        nope mate , more like in : branch , tenal , venal , delve , period basis , querious , tribute , vale of the silent.

        March 11, 2013 at 7:08 pm Reply
    2. lol

      lol more like they would stop using smaller things just to get fights and hit with full force every time.

      March 11, 2013 at 7:35 pm Reply
    3. Double D's

      Cfc would get raped. Dotbros a tenth CFCs size crushed almost every cfc fleet they chose to Engadge. Cfc only won the Dotbros war through pure mass structure grinding. Having that many more numbers was CFCs only hope of defeating Dotbros, wich after 3 months of getting hammered or stalemate cfc finally realised.
      Yes I wish cfc would stop being cowards, however we all know that mittens is shitting himself, so is trying to keep HBC occupied and trying to minipulate as he always does alliances to defect from HBC. This is how mittens will run things until a real war finally starts. Mittens and CFCs leadership rmt/botting operations have their days numbered.

      March 11, 2013 at 7:43 pm Reply
      1. Dbrb is a Baddie

        Confirming CFC are shit, why are we stating well known facts anyway?

        March 11, 2013 at 7:46 pm Reply
        1. Damn girl

          Lol cfc grunts been negging posts, such baddies.

          March 12, 2013 at 4:17 pm Reply
      2. old timer

        but think about CFC+solar . i mean , solar alone is giving a hard time to N3+RA & friends + PL

        and about numbers … again and again , same old story. you got the l33t pvpers , we have the numbers. you loose.

        March 11, 2013 at 7:50 pm Reply
        1. lol

          solar isnt give anyone a hard time… they lose system EVERY day to them. It takes a while to grind 400 systems man

          March 11, 2013 at 8:41 pm Reply
        2. Dbrb is a Baddie

          In war it's rare that one side will win every fight. When you say solar are making it hard for N3 you basically refer to the rare few fights and successes Solar have won against N3.
          Solar are to be commended for showing more heart than the majority of other alliances in eve. A very nice outfit making at least some content. Would have loved to work with solar, alas macteps decisions were terrible so they are paying for it now.

          March 11, 2013 at 8:58 pm Reply
      3. #fuckOffMittens

        thing is hbc will just replace them so then theyll hold north and south become fat rmt cunts and still have an evern bigger blue donut

        March 11, 2013 at 10:46 pm Reply
      4. Sage

        This is true NCDOT left Tribute cause they were bored of winning so much, they killed 6 or 8 hundred goon ships for every ship they lost and that was usually a cyno frigate. Sometimes NCDOT would form up and the game would lose 20,000 players logging as the CFC quit for the night. Once NCDOT took out over a 80 caps with 6 frigates, and they did it without ammo. That's what i remember about how the NCDOT won the war in Tribute.

        March 12, 2013 at 1:00 am Reply
        1. #sasaka

          i stopped reading after seeing the first 3 words…

          March 12, 2013 at 1:12 am Reply
        2. anonymous

          I don't know what the hell I just read

          March 12, 2013 at 6:01 am Reply
        3. 8 ball

          FUNEY plz post more i need a good laugh at work

          March 12, 2013 at 10:39 am Reply
        4. hungover

          Wait…really? I thought goons coverd themselves in glory by bravely fighting outnumberd, an eve thermopylae if you will. Only in noob ships while the vile, evil NCdot all turned up in supers

          March 16, 2013 at 11:33 am Reply
  3. 0.o Grunt

    Grats to you SOLAR. You won this battle.

    March 11, 2013 at 6:50 pm Reply
  4. DubbaYooArr

    another great fight. this war is becoming very interesting as solar is backed into a corner. Their meaningless buffer systems are all gone now and solar has shown they can punch back. Great report, good job with war on all fronts; N3, Solar, allies. this is what Eve is about. CFC/HBC – Take notes.

    March 11, 2013 at 6:59 pm Reply
    1. WWW

      Remember that CFC/HBC are some risk averse pusses. At least, their leadership is. I hope people become so bored by the stagnation that at some point it will all explode.

      People can dream, right?

      March 11, 2013 at 7:07 pm Reply
      1. daffasfddsfas

        I think we can all agree that SOV mechanics are shit right now. The POS Warfare pre-Dominion was excellent: you actually had 23/7 large scale warfare. Now? Shit. Complete BULLSHIT. Even N3 didn't want to actually take Sov, they just wanted to push Solar out.

        March 12, 2013 at 12:41 pm Reply
        1. burnjita

          not the sovwarfare i remember
          pre-dominion was shit too

          March 12, 2013 at 1:33 pm Reply
          1. Hungover

            Aye. Dominion was supposed to FIX sov mechanics. Sov wars have been a pile of bollocks since way beforedominions launch

            March 16, 2013 at 11:12 am
    2. lolz

      RA/N3 batphone HBC….they ARE HBC. Its pathetic.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:22 pm Reply
    3. Boo

      The only thing to take note of is that N3 cant win without PL

      March 13, 2013 at 9:15 am Reply
  5. ThatGuy

    "It showed very well the weaknesses of slowcat fleets; as any capital fleet it is very vulnerable without subcap support and can be countered even when outnumbered on the strategic level as long as one is ready to escalate and bring in a capital or supercapital fleet."
    Yet almost every Alliance using them has a Super Capital fleet bigger than yours and ready to blob (as would have happened here without the derp)

    March 11, 2013 at 7:04 pm Reply
    1. lol

      all it showed was your mid point cyno shouldnt go afk with your super fleet waiting to jump

      March 11, 2013 at 7:35 pm Reply
      1. ThatGuy

        Not MY alliance. I was saying how slowcats are still unable to really be countered because those who use them have supers ready as back up and generally more than anyone else.
        So the counter is to deploy your caps/supers and hope that the back ups cyno is getting lunch! perfectly viable counter that everyone can use!

        March 12, 2013 at 2:33 pm Reply
  6. Ultimatum

    GJ solar, sola fight against the odds now as NCdot fought massively outnumbered against CFC. The fighting spirit that both of these entities has is something to be admired. In a better eve these two could absolutely crush cfc, wishful thinking, but dreams are there for a reason.
    Cfc has only ever picked on the weak or fought those better than them with 5:1 plus odds.
    Unworthy is something that always pops to mind when I see cfc sov covering the north.

    March 11, 2013 at 7:11 pm Reply
    1. old timer

      "Cfc has only ever picked on the weak"

      this is untrue. unles you consider AAA+nulli+RA+ROL+gypsy+vera cruz+en garde+walltriepers+cha ching+kadeshi+raiden+initiative+whoever +pets of the pets, as weak and five time smaller.

      March 11, 2013 at 7:39 pm Reply
      1. Dbrb is a Baddie

        -A- and SoCo where beyond weak for many reasons.
        1. They were a newly formed coalition, communication was terrible as they were so new against 2x massive coalitions, one of wich is fully established.
        2. SoCo were outnumbered at best 2:1 and when we talk 1000 max from SoCo vs 2000-3000 CFC/HBC/PL yes massively outnumbered.
        3. Due to communications and trust issues within SoCo it was a rarity to see the whole of SoCo in joint fleets, usually just a few alliances while other didn't turn up or were wildly late.
        A newly established coalition never had a chance this outnumbered out gunned, and unestablished.
        Was basically taking recruits into battle, they didn't have the coalition experience or know how at such short notice.

        So thank you old timer, your old as in age because your fucking clueless about eve. You gave a great example of how CFC picks on the weak and massively outnumbers them, clap of hands, round of applause for the cfc scrub tard, back to your ore belt.

        March 11, 2013 at 7:56 pm Reply
        1. old timer

          no , you are fucking clueless about eve .

          AAA+ROL+nulli+gypsy+engarde+kadeshi+all the pets , were the same who did defeat the whole DRF.
          i guess this is enough to make a coalition established , nope ?

          before we arrived , they were winning the war agaisnt TEST+PL . that's the genuine reason why we came.

          last but not least , having good internal comunication and trust inside a coalition is one of the basics of eve online. don't you know that yet ?

          March 11, 2013 at 8:05 pm Reply
          1. Dbrb is a Baddie

            Read what I said again you piece of goon shit.
            Mb if you try you worthless retard, you will begin to understand why any one with 15IQ would know why SoCo never had a chance.
            Nulli and Pangu were fighting PL/Test and Allies for a long time, massively out umbered.
            PL got wind that -A- was going to come down and support nulli.
            Funnily I was the person that made Nulli leadership aware of CFCs deployment and that's when the whole of Soco attempted to engadge against that mass blob. They had no chance as was proven for the reasons I originally stated.
            Old timer to back to your meals on wheels, your the clarity what makes cfc despised, blind stupidity.

            March 11, 2013 at 8:23 pm
          2. old timer

            you mad bro ?

            come on , prove me that at least 70% of the soco wasnt already in the coalition that did defeat the DRF…

            March 11, 2013 at 8:26 pm
          3. Dbrb is a Baddie

            You prove your worth with the defeatist " you made bro" comment as you have nothing of reality or worth to say.
            You can bow in defeat like a good old man, while I boot you out the door.
            Been slaughtering goons spaceship pixels and verbally since 05 o7

            March 11, 2013 at 8:35 pm
          4. Dbrb is a Baddie

            "You mad Bro" I mean, predict txt if you know what that means old man.

            March 11, 2013 at 8:36 pm
          5. old timer

            im still waiting mate ,

            prove me that AAA + ROL + gypsy + nulli + en garde + kadeshi + init. +plenty of pets , the main part of the soco , wasnt fighting the DRF all together for … maybe two years ?

            in fact , soco is the AAA powerblock , plus the pets they did put in the south after RA's defeat. am i right ?

            March 11, 2013 at 9:03 pm
          6. Carter

            Prove to us all those guys were in a coalition called Soco…… Your trying to pass out kool-aid to people that know it's kool-aid. Soco wasn't a powerblock, it was what people outside of -A- called a handful of other alliances that were not blue to CFC.

            March 11, 2013 at 9:28 pm
          7. Dbrb is a Baddie

            True dat carter. See when you come to eve news 24 there's freedom of speech from people who Factually know what's happened.
            Yes the reports are sometimes difficult to read, looking as though a 10 year old Ugandan had wrote it following a Mongolian released English Dictionary.
            But I'd prefer freedom of speech than going to Mittens.com where everything truthful or based on reality that does depict CFC in a bad or weak way is deleted.
            Ill have EN24 over ellogant minipulation any day.
            She ain't perfect but she's good enough for me 😛

            March 11, 2013 at 9:39 pm
          8. old timer

            there is not that much news on TM.com anayway ^^

            March 11, 2013 at 9:43 pm
          9. #minttensIsaCunt

            tmdc does a piece about ccp banning botters with new wares since 1.5 ….. i give it the old meme cfc bot down and mittens himself hits bk with a snide comment and bans me what a cunt….. s

            March 11, 2013 at 10:44 pm
          10. Damn girl

            Mittens thinks if no comments stating he or his leadership rmt/bott then attention will be averted. He does try hard to delete and contain all info of there rmt/botting operations. It's there and we all know it however much he wishes to delete comments of it.
            He's just a minipulator nothing more.

            March 12, 2013 at 4:23 pm
          11. old timer

            you know carter , i've been fighting AAA and/or Soco for more than two years , in DRF and in CFC . its not only kool aid , it was effectively the same guys.

            i remember a pilot from TWATS , who was a real pain in the ass , harrassing every day , setting traps and hotdrops , when i was defending 46-DPO with DRF… and when i come back in delve , 1st day , i see him again in local ! lol i was like " ho no not him again ! "

            after , we can disscuss if the coalition was in the same good shape or not…

            March 11, 2013 at 9:50 pm
          12. Carter

            People like to call people that sometimes fought on the same side a coalition, when they're not. "Solar legion of red noise" was a coalition to kill old NC, and when old NC died, that coalition broke up, but a year later you still had leaders in -A-, and CFC calling that same group, plus a handful of other alliance the "DRF" which was never a real coalition, alot of the so called DRF were not even blue to each other, but people in the CFC were passing out kool-aid, say "OMG DRF is going to take over all of EVE". What three years later, your still calling them the DRF, you were told by your leadership that they were a coalition, and you ate that shit up, and three years later trying to feed it to others, simply not knowing any better, and believing that coalition existed, when it in fact never did. Soco is in the same boat DRF is, it never existed, eve-o forums told you it existed, kugu told you it existed, EN24 told you it existed, and likely your leaders told you it existed, but it never did. Old "NC" was a real coalition, they called themselves that, and everyone in it knew what they were, "Solar legion of red noise" they called themselves that, and everyone in it knew what they were, CFC is a real coalition, HBC is a real coalition Dotbros were a real coalition, N3 are a real coalition. When people in -A- first heard the name Soco, they were like "Who the hell is Soco?" They didn't even know they were in it.

            March 11, 2013 at 10:23 pm
          13. old timer

            well , to be exact , and there i rejoin you , after defeat of old nc , drf was no more , thats true . the name stayed in the eve medias and all , but it was a complete different coalition, but still a coalition . no one told me so , i was a member of it . to name it , we were talking more about "red coalition" and "red arrow"

            then i desagree with you , when you say that nulli , rol , AAA , for the main players , didnt form a coalition , because they have been fighting alongside and sharing victories an defeats for years.
            despite the less good relationships they had together than, lets say , cfc or dotbros, i still see them as a whole thing , sharing space , jb networks, capfleets, and such. but more than everything , sharing fleets and being used to fight together.

            for once , when you say that AAA didnt knew they were part of it sounds to me like kool aid to the fact that AAA's leadership failed at maintaining this "group of alliances" as a real coalition after RA's fall .
            wich did lead them to their final defeat.

            but we cant agree on everything , thats the spice wich makes posting here interesting :)

            March 12, 2013 at 12:46 am
          14. Carter

            You talk like you know what your talking about, but it's all kool-aid, and hear say. All the alliances that everyone called DRF were no longer blue to each other once the space was divided, sure RA may have been blue to xdeath, and solar and the renters, but that's about as far as the bluelist went, and you yourself may have called that the DRF, but that only proves how delusional you were, and are, and perhaps your corp, and alliance mates were. DRF was a name others made for the Russians, not the Russians name for themselves, they were blue only because it was good for the renting business. Who knows, maybe RA leadership was telling you that DRF was real, and you had all these friends so you were more confident, and you felt safe, but in reality there was no "DRF", there was "Solar legion of red noise", and they paid for mercenary, but when the campaign was over, so was that coalition, they didn't split on bad terms, but the coalition served it's purpose, and joint ops were done.

            The avg. grunt is bombarded with so much propaganda in EVE, and from so many different places that the avg. grunt more often then not has no clue what is going on, they may think they know whats going on, but it's all kool-aid, and the more kool-aid that is consumed by the masses the more real it seems, as more and more people start repeating it.

            It's comical to hear people talking about EVE history, and more often then not they are just passing out old kool-aid.

            March 12, 2013 at 4:12 am
          15. lol

            the drf wasnt defeated… after taking out the nc they simple reset eachother and disbanded

            March 11, 2013 at 8:40 pm
          16. Carter

            Soco was something people outside of -A- made up as kool-aid for the north, it wasn't a real coalition, it was just dudes saying, "those 10 alliances on that side of the map are a coalition….. the southern coalition…. right…… that sounds about right…. lets batphone the entirety of the CFC"

            For someone claiming others "are fucking clueless about eve", you seem to be pretty ignorant about the reality of what happened. Keep drinking that kool-ade

            March 11, 2013 at 8:44 pm
          17. han solo

            Dude a was in white noise and we broke up due to internal shit nad we reset some of the other alliances which was the plan fuck Most of us were moved north nowhere near -A- and shit

            March 12, 2013 at 6:35 pm
          18. CBJL

            Actually, the DRF comprised of Red Alliance, Legion of XxDeathxX, Solar Fleet/Wing, White Noise, NCdot, Raiden, and I'm pretty sure Gypsy was there too, along with a few pet alliances. DRF wasn't exactly defeated, it broke up on its own.

            March 11, 2013 at 8:35 pm
          19. old timer

            mmm this is intersting to discuss. +rep mate !

            i was in DRF. gypsy was part of the " curse coalition " with initiative , bright side of death , wrekless chavs… they were giving a hard time to RA in north-west of drone lands, remember the battle were they killed at once 7 RA titans ?

            NCdot was mercenaries employed by RA , but i didnt mention in my soco list , as they never been part of it :)

            raiden was more like a wild card after DRF beating old NC, they did mainly show up in delve at the bigining of the great offensive against AAA , and then we didn't saw em after that.

            i never saw a friendly solar pilot from the whole war in the south. when we started seeing these guys on the field , it was after russian civil war , and they were on AAA's side. its true they have been part of DRF vs NC , but in the AAA war , they ended proud member of what would be called later "soco"

            but you are totally right , DRF did implode all alone , due to massive RMT , long time not logged leadership, and a solar director switching to XIX , bringing 900B with him from solar's wallet ,wich started russian civil war.

            but at the end , my point of view is that the most part of soco , was fighting together as part of the same coalition for a long time before fighting goons in delve.

            March 11, 2013 at 8:54 pm
          20. Dbrb is a Baddie

            Yes they fought together. Not fighting regularly for a while with other entities, Having trust issues due to – he done this and he done that arguments. Are all splintering factors wich were shown within SoCo when it formed. Regular disputes, maka dictatorship were all reasons among many for why they never had a chance as well as those obvious factors that I listed originally.
            Just because once upon a time these guys were buddies doesnt mean that with all the friction they will perform like a cohesive unit that has all the kinks worked out. There were many kinks and the sure as hell were not worked out.

            March 11, 2013 at 9:14 pm
          21. Before you arrived the south wasnt trying to fight as SoCo, only when you arrived SoCo was really formed and trying to do shit together..
            SoCos biggest problem was that no one except, vera, nulli and Walltreipier wanted to commit 100%, they had to because otherwise they were going to lose their sov, The rest didnt want to commit anything.
            -A- was acting like a spoiled kid who wanted it their way or no way, he rest was like: hmm we dont want to commit because when Nulli loses we want to be able to defend ourself, instead they just got picked 1 by 1 and lost in the end anyways..

            March 11, 2013 at 10:44 pm
          22. alu

            ……….

            March 12, 2013 at 3:22 am
          23. PL grunt

            Before CFC arrived , they were winning the war against TEST+PL . Test hit the bigdaddy batphone and that's the genuine reason why CFC came.

            Once this happened Nulli and most the others just gave up and ran off leaving red overload and AAA to fight their war for them… Red overlord were then flipped by insiders to become HBC and lost their capital station. By this point AAA was basicly being run by the main corps / FCs.

            A junior moronic -A- FC panicked at the the red overlord flip and sent an alliance mail saying RUN AWAY! The rest was hilarious… hence the 'real war' for shit sov mechanics was done and the fighting could begin.

            PL played the long game against -A- but if CFC hadn't come down and ruined it we would still shooting each other now and having a great time.

            March 12, 2013 at 9:44 pm
          24. hungover

            Yeah you duderz haz won eve….wait actually no, your terribad blobbers who think your great because you can mobilise 3 times that of any enemies. When you fight decent alliances like NCdot/Bl you looked like utter ammateurs. Please though feel free to chest beat about some of those alliances you blobbed out of existence though, but keep in mind at skill level your pilots are outclssed by most of those other alliances

            March 16, 2013 at 11:27 am
      2. lol

        sadly most of the ones you listed didnt reall fight just nulli, ra, vera thats about it rest sat in station

        March 11, 2013 at 8:38 pm Reply
        1. old timer

          that is very true.
          and its one of the best strenght of the CFC , we are able to make logg and fight a very good ratio of our pilots.

          but Nulli , has big respect from CFC grunts.

          March 11, 2013 at 9:08 pm Reply
      3. hungover

        Cfc mainly jyst blob the shit out of you. They're generally fucking awful in numerically similar situations. The average cfc member has the skill level of zagdul (I.e the same as a poached egg)

        March 16, 2013 at 11:17 am Reply
    2. Enough

      All this story, a huge freaking awesome battle and you somehow think you need to inject some CFC into it? Dude this had nothing to do with the CFC you're drinking the cool aid.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:53 am Reply
  7. Double D's

    Good videos hate the music. Personal taste is better sorry!

    March 11, 2013 at 7:16 pm Reply
  8. TNT Grunt

    If Goons where realy that bad they would have been wiped out of Eve many many years ago versus BoB.
    I understand some people are biased and hate other corps / alliance / coalitions etc etc, but the fact that Goons is top of the food chain for this long proved they have a little more credit then any other corp / alliance when it come's to War and how to win it.

    Anyone saying goons are shit is delusional, we might have had bad days, got outplayed on some fights, but like any fleet engaging sometimes the roll of dice is against you.
    No matter how good your Fleet commander is, when shit is stacked against you…you lose more then you win.

    Once the war will break out many alliance's will soon learn that the strenght of goons does not only come from 4 very good and talented FC's but also our logistics to keep the war going.
    The amount of spaiz, intell within goons is often good enough to win a war before it even begins.
    But haters gonne hate.

    Let a war start in 2013 and let it be the biggest one Eve has ever seen and victory will be on our side, ones this giant awakens in full strenght there aint much that can stop it, otherwise PL and HBC would have finishe3d the goons many moons ago and took all the precious tech moons for themsevles wont you think ? :)

    March 11, 2013 at 8:04 pm Reply
    1. Dbrb is a Baddie

      Goons before you even you likely played, back in the old days,used to be half decent.
      Now especially as a Pvp force they are no better than average.
      They have a wall of blue to support there carcus. They rules cfc through long established chains of command and minipulating. I credit you that they are good at mind games as far as propaganda goes and minipulation, as mittens has defected many an alliance, and caused much unrest in the past for one thing or another.
      This is there pros, not heroic, nothin or legend, nothing that would be remembered for the right reasons.
      You might ask why would being remembered in a feared or inspiring way be important.
      Well you are measured by what you do. There's nothing within cfc history to state they inspired or won heroic battles, nothing bout niet. That's why when they do fall they will only be remembered for manipulation, mass blobbing and exploiting nerfs and patches for their own benifit.

      March 11, 2013 at 8:13 pm Reply
      1. old timer

        there is one thing you are right about , it's that DBRB is bad at eve. and guess what , that's why we love him so much.

        for the rest …

        i'll have just one pick , in recent history : the vfk headshot attempt by raiden+PL+evokes+white noise+pets… but maybe you weren't playing eve at the time…

        March 11, 2013 at 8:22 pm Reply
        1. Dbrb is a Baddie

          Lol Was playing long before you more than likely. I was there in Vfk when Pl got there supers camped into a rape caged POS. I was there when you goon Tards dropped the cyno jammer and we took the opportunity to jump our supers and titans in to get PLs supers out killing a goon aeon in the process and almost an avatar.
          You do realise that Vfk was not a serious headshot, it was all of us having fun, going where all the blob was for fights. As until Vfk happened it was months I end of boredom kulling goons while they run away. Vfk was a means if forcing you worthless fucks to fight, and it was fun :)

          March 11, 2013 at 8:30 pm Reply
          1. old timer

            yes of course , 5 major alliances go all in in goon's mother system not meaning it seriously… do you think anybody is beleiving you ?

            March 11, 2013 at 8:36 pm
          2. Dbrb is a Baddie

            Doesn't matter if you believe me or not. Use some basic strategical awareness, surely you must have some, even a minuscule amount. Even say if VFK was taken would still mean that all advancing parties would of had to secure space around within jump range. Due to goon an pets size a headshot would of never worked as a deciding factor of goon downfall, they would of relocated and the big grind would start.
            Anybody knows that if you don't take key systems leading upto a headshot of a staging system,you are only making the advance ten times more difficult. As you will be surrounded with no clear way of extraction to a foothold. If hostiles are small in number then it's not a huge factor but with the numbers we talk about it was.
            It should be obvious that VFK- was for fights nothing more. You have been listening to mittens propaganda far too much, adles the brain.

            March 11, 2013 at 8:48 pm
        2. The funny part about that is that before the titan nerf you were losing and would have been removed, but since the titans got nerfed and you actually outnumbered them they had no chance of winning…

          March 11, 2013 at 11:01 pm Reply
          1. old timer

            ermmm , explain to me what cfc was loosing before titan nerf , because i dont really remember…

            i remember taking delve 3 times , i remember AAA backstabing while fighting BOB , and i remember not helping old nc against DRF , wich vas the biggest capital blob ever . but loosing because of titans , i dont remember.

            in contrary , i remember perfectly winning " because of a falcon " :)

            March 12, 2013 at 1:03 am
          2. #mittens sucks

            booo hooo soundwave nerf titans they hit our drakes and were nt meant to lose

            March 12, 2013 at 3:21 am
  9. Puppyy UK

    Wtf is this

    ""It showed very well the weaknesses of slowcat fleets; as any capital fleet it is very vulnerable without subcap support""

    A slowcat fleet like the one N3 fielded that day is enough to rip apart a 400man subcap fleet. The only thing it's "vulnerable" to is a bunch of supers and that's what happened when the PL cyno guy went for lunch without telling anyone. Trap gone bad, Welp.

    I've seen a s2n fc jump his 15 carriers into 250 nagas and a few dreads due to bad intel and successfully ward off/kill all hostiles and safely extract. When used properly, 50 slowcats would be an incredibly powerful tool.

    The PL dude in question felt bad and so made up for his mistake I think: https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_ba

    March 11, 2013 at 8:12 pm Reply
  10. Maru

    Moral of the story: RA subcap support is the same as having no subcap support at all.

    March 11, 2013 at 8:17 pm Reply
  11. Const. Bacon

    that was fun to watch being there must have been awesome thx for the vids

    March 11, 2013 at 8:40 pm Reply
  12. Humble_miner

    "Slavic vikings"? What the hell is that?

    March 11, 2013 at 8:45 pm Reply
    1. Maru

      Never heard of Kievan Rus? The Varangians?

      March 11, 2013 at 8:50 pm Reply
  13. Asskicking

    What an ass raping…..wow. That is hilarious.

    March 12, 2013 at 1:27 am Reply
  14. The_Oracle86

    gj to solar for taking advantage of the situation and having the balls to commit, very good fight. I'm amused at all the big talk with the hbc and cfc measuring dicks.

    How bout you guys STFU and actually fight eachother to know for sure.

    March 12, 2013 at 3:53 am Reply
  15. tada

    Aria FTW !!!

    March 12, 2013 at 7:53 am Reply
  16. Tia_85

    Ha ha look at all these CFC grunts all butthurt because no one talks about them anymore!
    You know what you need to do.

    Back on topic, I have a huge amount of respect for solar and this, once again proves they are worthy adversaries. Yes the N3 and RA FC's made some howlers but you guys kept your cool and gave swift and just punishment.

    Let the good fights continue!

    March 12, 2013 at 11:52 am Reply
  17. Solar Grunt

    Gotta love how the editor managed to use the title to take a swipe at Solar for taking apart that slowcat fleet.

    March 12, 2013 at 2:31 pm Reply
  18. The Observer

    Solar lost their staging system again today and tried to defend it with a 20 man BC gang. Its all great that out of the whole war Solar won one battle but really today was their last chance if they wanted to avoid complete collapse and they failed to do that. At this point it looks like Solar won't be able to put together a small gang going forward, let alone a defense fleet or actually win any fights. I guess the only question is how long until their remaining corps disband?

    March 12, 2013 at 5:38 pm Reply
    1. Highsec Perspective

      I can think of at least three major fights in the past month and a half where SOLAR have won, usually outgunned. That's just off the top of my head, so there could be more, either way, your comment is entirely false. O-G95Y, U-93 (first fight, they also did reasonably well on their second and their fight) and this fight.

      March 20, 2013 at 3:57 am Reply
    2. PL are whores

      the real question is when will all of eve stop being blue.

      March 22, 2013 at 1:16 am Reply
  19. zapo

    Please someone explain to me how they think 2 l33t alliances versus solar block is somehow good gameplay??? Why the fuck are you people blue balling decent pvpers, with " BLOCKS " Solar aren't a block they do their own thing.. yes they had renters but wtf…

    You all god damn old boys club hypocrites and fucking Pandemic Legion need to lose their stupid fucking Super Cap fleet so we can have some fucking game play again you bunch of cowards…

    March 13, 2013 at 10:18 pm Reply
    1. Rob Zarodnie

      As far as PL fight Solar, and their rents….. Shadoo wrote on the Test forums well talking about how little progress has been made on the wargames bullshit and I qoute "That's as far we got… which isn't very far at all unfortunately due to bullshit 0.0 sov warfare HBC/N3 got dragged into. But… hopefully now you're more informed when you get asked about this next week." This is of course implying they didn't want to fight Solar, but they got dragged into it kicking and screaming. That some nice kool-aid.

      Truth is PL have been in coward mode for a good two years now, Shadoo is probably the most risk averse alliance leader in the game atm, they have deals with almost anyone that could match they're supercap fleet to batphone one another if the need arises. They also have a bluelist that is as large as the CFC's.

      March 13, 2013 at 10:44 pm Reply
      1. Highsec Perspective

        PL probably have an even bigger blue list than CFC honestly…:P

        March 20, 2013 at 3:55 am Reply
    2. N-3

      While Nulli and NC. were fighting CFC, Solar attacked them from behind instead of joining them and helping them. That was a big mistake and will lead to Solar disbanding. Solar only have their own leadership to blame.

      March 14, 2013 at 7:44 am Reply
      1. Solar FC

        Maybe if METCAP wrote a 500 word apology and posted it on EvE News, you would let us keep a system or two?

        March 14, 2013 at 9:11 am Reply
      2. Rob Zarodnie

        NCdot in reality attack Solar months before the whole Dotbro versus CFC war started. For some reason Solar wasn't happy about that, and wouldn't work with NCdot…….. Who would of thought.

        I'm no fan of CFC, and I wish Solar would of just let that be, but I knew they wouldn't, and if the shoe was on the other foot NCdot probably wouldn't have ether. Whats great about EVE is that we have consequences for our actions, and NCdot burned that bridge, and are still to this day bitching about Solar not doing what they wanted as if it were ever an option.

        March 14, 2013 at 2:40 pm Reply

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