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With the recent announcement of the PS4, what is in the future for Dust 514? If you look in the right places, all of the signs are there that Dust 514 could be one of the PS4s premiere launch titles.

The PlayStation 4 needs to have a good launch and Sony’s partnership with CCP through Dust 514 could be the ticket. The fact that Dust 514 is a groundbreaking free to play FPS makes it a perfect choice as a PS4 launch title. If Sony and CCP go down this route then we could even see Dust 514 pre-installed on every new console. With rumors that the launch campaign budget for Dust 514 alone exceeds the total PS3 launch campaign, it may be that Sony sees Dust 514 as title that will bring Halo-like launch success.

The progression of Dust 514 from closed to open beta is another indicator that Dust 514 is going to be a big cog in the PS4 machine. First, Sony specifically removed restrictions and made numerous exceptions to its normal approval process for new updates and builds for Dust 514. This allowed Dust 514 to be updated and tested by the beta community at a much more rapid rate. There was also a lot of internal pressure for CCP to complete the move from EVE Online’s test server, Singularity, to the main server for the EVE universe, Tranquility, early in the year. This move would put the build creation and release schedule for Dust 514 in line with both rumored expansions to EVE Online and the potential November release of the PlayStation 4.

If the move for Dust 514 to the PS4 is inevitable, what does that mean for the future of Dust on the PS3? It seems, from previous interviews, that CCP is keen to keep the game running on both devices. Hilmar Pétursson, CCP CEO, had the following to say to Develop a year ago when asked about the PlayStation 4:

“If there is a PlayStation 4 – which I can tell you now I have no idea if there is – but if there was, we would build Dust for that console as well. It will most likely be a revision of the experience, as with all updates, and could allow people to play across PS3 and 4.”

A lot can change in one year but it would be folly after having over 1.5 million characters created for Dust through the PS3 for it to be quickly abandoned. The future trends in streaming and rumors that the PS4 will be able to stream PlayStation 3 games with GaiKai (as a token of backwards compatibility) also indicates that the foundations are in place to keep the PS3 version of the Dust client alive for at least some time to come. The existence of dual clients on both the PS3 and PS4 also makes sense in the context in which CCP has operated EVE Online. The MMO has gone through massive graphical upgrades and, at one point, supported two clients at once on Windows with the different clients supporting the current and previous generation of DirectX at the time.

Another interesting indicator may be the way in which Tranquility was upgraded just prior to Dust 514 being moved to the main server from Singularity. Before the upgrade, Tranquility was running on 20 clusters and was upgraded with 20 additional clusters and then a further 20 clusters. At the end of the upgrade, the total hardware count was at 60 clusters. It could be that this was a simple upgrade to prepare for a large influx of traffic and players from Dust but it’s possible the reason for the upgrade in two stages could be tied to hosting PS3 clients on one group of 20 and PS4 clients on the other group of 20. If this is accurate then it may mean that CCP has dedicated resources at the hardware level to support both the PS3 and PS4 ecosystem.

Even with this history of dual client support and potential support at the hardware level, it’s possible that features of Dust 514 will only be available on the newer hardware of the PS4. For example, a player on the PS3 might be able to do instant battle match making and small 8 v 8 corp contracts but in order to get access to fully featured factional warfare, and even nullsec conflicts with larger maps and players counts, the PS3 player may be forced to upgrade to a Playstation 4. A division like this, even if it were for technical reasons, could lead to a huge uproar and cries of a money grab by Sony and CCP. The community outrage in this sort of scenario could end up making Burn Jita and Monocle-gate look like a picnic.

Despite these challenges in CCP’s future, it has already made history by bridging the PS3 and the PC with Dust 514 and EVE Online. Dust 514 seems like just the kind of material for Sony to use to make a successful, content rich launch for its next-gen console. CCP will just have to tread carefully as it journeys in the unknown with potential conflicts and split player bases among the current and next gen console. If done right, Dust 514 will be one for the history books.

85 Comments

  1. DUST IS DONE

    But you are forgetting something…..dust is a horrible shooter and uses ps1 graphics

    February 23, 2013 at 7:50 am Reply
    1. observer

      Not true wath video of last artikle

      February 23, 2013 at 8:07 am Reply
    2. Let's not be dumb. DUST is PS2.5 graphics. Worse than what the PS3, but slightly better than the capabilities of the PS2.

      February 23, 2013 at 8:27 am Reply
      1. BobFromMarketing

        Nah Halo 2 looks better than DUST and the maps are tiny.

        Proof: http://i.imgur.com/XREQM.jpg

        February 23, 2013 at 10:19 am Reply
        1. tvanalyzer

          That's a standard TV, not a 720p HD TV.

          February 23, 2013 at 1:09 pm Reply
          1. BobFromMarketing

            That's a 60 inch 1080 HD Plasma actually. But your attempt to attack the TV and not defend the graphics amuses me greatly.

            February 23, 2013 at 1:52 pm
          2. DangerosoDavo

            have you guys not seen the video posted yesterday? on this very same site?

            February 23, 2013 at 2:21 pm
          3. BobFromMarketing

            The guy is right, the game does look better. About halfway through a match when the textures actually finish loading you will start to see improvements as you run around. Call me picky but I like my textures loaded in within a minute or two of the match starting.

            February 24, 2013 at 3:08 am
          4. Lawlercopter

            Bob, you're an ass. You don't know what you're talking about. Please shut up.

            February 27, 2013 at 8:48 pm
          5. BobFromMarketing

            Is that why so many people are posting gorgeous screenshots of Dust 514 other than CCP?

            February 28, 2013 at 7:17 am
          6. Bilbo Baggins

            Umm, Bob, there's no such thing as good textures on a playstation, at least not compared to PCs. Hell put any PS game on a PC and you would throw up at the poor texture quality. Most games on the PS3 lately have been lucky to get 720p level texture quality for christs sake. You really need to stop talking out your arse or you'll get skid marks all over your chin.

            March 3, 2013 at 8:30 pm
          7. BobFromMarketing

            You're pretty dumb there kid.

            March 4, 2013 at 12:38 am
        2. PCP_Bananaman

          terrible camera? DUST looks way better than that my end

          February 24, 2013 at 5:15 am Reply
          1. BobFromMarketing

            Then by all means provide a picture.

            February 24, 2013 at 5:54 am
        3. BillyBob

          Maybe try playing it on an HD tv instead of the old 1972 colour CRT tv you must be using

          March 3, 2013 at 8:27 pm Reply
          1. BobFromMarketing

            Maybe attempt a quip I haven't already countered you twat.

            March 4, 2013 at 12:38 am
    3. anon

      yeah and eve is a realy horrible game that uses spreadsheet graphics.
      i mean of course you can zom in and have awesome graphics, but usual eve gameplay is blue squares and red sqares and lots of 'x' and a table with lots of numbers.
      never seen such a shitty game as eve, but still i play it for 4 years now.

      February 23, 2013 at 2:14 pm Reply
  2. Drogo

    Iam happy for CCP they can pull this stuff off, its just a shame we as PC gamers dont have the option to play Dust on our main platform the PC.
    wich makes me not care at all about Dust…

    February 23, 2013 at 7:51 am Reply
    1. Lugalbandak

      PS3 are very cheap , usb mouse & keybord almost free, whats the problem? only have to buy one time hardware for a game you can enjoy for long time.

      February 23, 2013 at 11:03 am Reply
      1. Cornholio

        200$ for a 7 year old console that will soon be obsoleted with no new release titles isn't what i would call cheap but more along the lines of wasteful.

        You could buy a better shooter for the PC for 30$.

        February 23, 2013 at 1:00 pm Reply
        1. BobFromMarketing

          Or simply play Planetside 2 for free.

          February 23, 2013 at 2:01 pm Reply
          1. BambiFromHR

            bla bla planetside 2 sucks..

            February 23, 2013 at 4:34 pm
          2. lameshitbelame

            I guess you haven't played dust then, as its essentially the same game…

            February 23, 2013 at 5:40 pm
          3. Xenrek

            except DUST has plans for 10 eyasr of development, and CCP ahs the history to rpove they wont abandon a game after cash-grabbing a CU and an NGE then buttfucking over any players who complained.

            February 25, 2013 at 3:54 am
          4. BobFromMarketing

            PS2 is definitely not for everyone but it does everything DUST is trying to do better. PS2 is essentially what DUST wanted to be. The only thing DUST offers PS2 doesnt is the ability to talk to people in Eve.

            February 24, 2013 at 3:21 am
          5. Lugalbandak

            ps2 is very cartoonish and if you like hardcore where it hurts to die , dust beats ps2 on every aspect and its still beta, and 200 dollars comon , tey far more cheaper as that

            February 24, 2013 at 10:31 am
          6. BobFromMarketing

            I am not sure cartoonish means what you think it means. Also death is nearly meaningless in both games and have absolutely no idea why you brought 200 bucks into a discussion about Planetside 2 and DUST. Both are free to play. It's like you have never played either game.

            February 24, 2013 at 10:34 am
          7. Lugalbandak

            if you advanced in the better suits it will cost you , same with tanks.

            If you stay in running the militia suit , sure it does not hurt then

            February 24, 2013 at 11:08 am
          8. BobFromMarketing

            If you're space poor I suppose. Nothing in that game is even remotely expensive for all but the newest Eve pilots.

            February 24, 2013 at 12:28 pm
          9. Xenrek

            you… you DO realize there will eb an EXCHANGE rate of EVE-isk to DUST-isk to rpevent market saturation right?

            also, once EvE players start manufacturing the DUST egar, ALL THAT SHIT WILL GO UP IN PRICE MEGATONS.

            February 25, 2013 at 3:53 am
          10. BobFromMarketing

            Haha holy shit you've commented like 20 times pro DUST in around 5 minutes. You actually believe CCP has some sort of over arching plan. It's like you've never played Eve Online the game where their "plan" ran the game into a player revolt.

            February 25, 2013 at 4:14 am
          11. Xenrek

            Yes, a Revolt ONE TIME, out of 10 years. Fact is, CCP has shown capability in keeping a game running and successful for 10+ years, sometimes listening to players, sometimes not, but the fact is, they have managed to keep their entire business afloat for 10 years off eve, if CCP shanghai can show the same level of dedication to DUSt as CCP Iceland has shown EvE, the game will still bea round, and more successful than ever, year after year after year.

            February 25, 2013 at 4:52 am
          12. BobFromMarketing

            Oh man you're an apologist of the highest order. I need to screenshot some of these for kicks later.

            February 25, 2013 at 5:10 am
          13. lol dimwits

            i like how both of you upvote your own comments. i should make a screenshot of this for kicks later. that is all.

            February 25, 2013 at 6:49 am
          14. BobFromMarketing

            Hell of an ironic username there. When you actually have an Intense Debate account it auto upvotes you when you post. Much like Reddit.

            February 25, 2013 at 8:13 am
          15. BeltPred

            i havent upvoted shit, i made my comment, left for work, saw he commented on mine once i got home, commented back, then fell asleep.
            (this is Xenrek, my intensedebate is being shitty right now)

            February 25, 2013 at 8:23 pm
      2. qwero

        teh problem?? consoles have crappy hardware, graphics are fugly.

        February 23, 2013 at 5:56 pm Reply
        1. Smiling Joe

          they run the game, bitching about graphics means you don't care about content, just looks, and i don't want you anywhere near me

          February 25, 2013 at 9:14 pm Reply
  3. "A lot can change in one year, but it would be folly after having over 1.5 million characters created for Dust through the PS3 for it to be quickly abandoned."

    That's data. It doesn't matter what the hardware the client is on. The characters do not disappear simply because they create new client for the PS4 or the PC or the Mac.

    February 23, 2013 at 8:25 am Reply
    1. Chib

      i was about to type something the same then i re-read it….he's referring to the development and maintenance of the ps3 client not actually the player accounts themselves

      February 24, 2013 at 12:08 am Reply
      1. Chib

        i can see no reason why you would need to stream the ps3 version on the ps4 when both clients would be logging into the same database

        February 24, 2013 at 12:10 am Reply
  4. Hmmmm

    I think the problem is CCP should have waited for the next generation of consoles for Dust but they did not want to wait a little longer for some reason so now the game has already been developed for the PS3 and the PS4 is going to have COMPLETELY different architecture so if they choose to make Dust for the PS4 they will have to start from the ground up again pretty much.. so it'll just get a slight redesign so it works on the PS4 most likely when it should have always been developed as a PS4 game to start with, it would have been much easier for CCP to develop since Sony are going out of their way to make the PS4's architecture massively easier for game developers than the PS3 to make up for the fact the PS3 received criticism by a lot of game developers for being inherently difficult to develop and port games to and they would have had almost no restrictions on where they could have taken DUST due to the enormous hardware upgrade of the PS4 unfortunately this just seems like a horribly missed opportunity now by CCP…

    February 23, 2013 at 10:10 am Reply
    1. Bill

      Lol, start from the ground up, You're forgetting that theres industry standards like Direct X. Generally, the first run through on something like this is coded for simplicity, ease of maintenance and uses alot of the standard API. What this means is that a port to PS4 is more than likely not going to be a problem unless the PS4 is some totally new kind of architecture which, I dont beleive is the case.

      Nearly all code written these days is written using RAD APIs. One of the issues we have with EVE is the fact that the early stuff was coded using APIs that havent been supported in the long run, not on the level of something like java,

      The old python code we have heard has caused many a problem. Usually, this happens because of time constraints or technical limitations. I dont see Dust suffering from this kind of problem because of the experienced gained with EVE, meaning as I've already said, a porting to PS4 wont be a problem.

      I cant guarantee they wont use the port to justify some change that alot of the players wont be happy with though. At the end of the day, its a business out to make money now. Its no longer a bunch of guys being paid to have fun. (Some blame the RMT, but thats another story)

      February 23, 2013 at 1:29 pm Reply
      1. Console perspective

        But the point is a port to the PS4 would be terrible and look terrible, who wants to play a game that looks and is that outdated compared to everything on the new console? it's not like it's a classic PS3 game that people would want to play again the only people that would play DUST at that point would be EVE online players who own a PS4 which completely defeats the whole point of having DUST on the Playstation.

        February 23, 2013 at 2:30 pm Reply
        1. Treston_Cal

          Is this why PSN is still selling legacy playstation games? A fan base is a fan base and if you offer it to them, they will play – though it might not be as much as the new stuff

          February 24, 2013 at 12:52 pm Reply
          1. Xenrek

            wait… you can get old playstatioon games on PSN? hallelujah maybe i can get all thsoe PS3 games on my PS4 soemday that i was never able to play since i didnt have a PS3 (like kingdom hearts… mainly)

            February 25, 2013 at 3:51 am
      2. Lychondy

        Pa4 will probably use openGL. Direct x is a Microsoft product. You are probably right thoug about this being mostly portable but I imagine it will take some time to get the compilers right.

        February 23, 2013 at 6:34 pm Reply
        1. Lychondy

          Ugh PS4

          February 23, 2013 at 6:35 pm Reply
    2. wade

      It has been stated that the ps4 will use an x86 processor, which is a new architecture compared to the ps3.

      February 23, 2013 at 7:45 pm Reply
  5. .the future

    DUST to have PS3 grafix in PS4!!!

    February 23, 2013 at 10:50 am Reply
    1. Treston_Cal

      Nah… They'll come with ps4 graphics and call it amarr/minmatar/caldari/gallente 2.0 graphics…

      February 24, 2013 at 12:53 pm Reply
    2. Herman

      probably some graphics pack for the PS4 to fix that:)

      February 24, 2013 at 4:30 pm Reply
    3. gumpin
      February 24, 2013 at 11:01 pm Reply
  6. lol

    I'm still waiting for the part were they admit the console won't be backwards compatible and then CCP will actually have to make a choice: redesign for the PS4 or go with the PS3 and watch it get abandoned a few years down the road. Either way they are still idiots for not putting it on the PC as well as a console.

    February 23, 2013 at 11:08 am Reply
  7. Cornholio

    I would be very surprised if DUST becomes a PS4 launch title. 1.5 million characters isn't much when you consider the big players in FPS games get more than that on day 1 with titles that people actually have to spend 60$ on. Then there's the issue that it's already available on PS3, which doens't give the customers the feeling that they must upgrade to PS4 now to play this game.

    February 23, 2013 at 1:04 pm Reply
    1. Treston_Cal

      I was kind of thinking along the same lines. Alothough I do not see a "burn jita" moment coming out of it. Players pay for Eve Online, they don't for Dust. I would think, with the fickleness of free MMO players, they would simply move on to the next free MMO.

      February 23, 2013 at 1:36 pm Reply
    2. SILENTSAM69

      You can not compare FPS game sales to games like CoD. Those titles are to gaming what Justin Beaber is to music. Sure there are a lot of sales, but nothing that someone who actually cares about the art would want.

      Games like CoD are hyped up with huge marketing campaigns. People buy them and then stop playing them not long after. Where as a game like DUST 514 is something many people do not even hear about until someone tells them to play it, and then they are often hooked.

      February 23, 2013 at 7:36 pm Reply
      1. Cornholio

        Sales is what matters for launch titles. Console companies dont give a shit about "the art", they want biebers.

        Console sales are hyped up with huge marketing campaigns, often with heavily advertised launch titles. So not too sure why you think tha'ts a reason not to compare.

        February 24, 2013 at 3:16 am Reply
        1. Xenrek

          except when "the art" is shown to be ungodly profitable as a stable income source for 10+ years (such as eve has been, despite NUMEROUS gaming reviewers decrying ti as an obsolete game style with an archaic subscription method, it has shown steady growth and progress over 10 years)

          February 25, 2013 at 3:56 am Reply
  8. Poplett

    I get that Sony want to sell as many playstations as possible, but generally the money is in the software. I'm sure by now that Sony and CCP realise that they could double or triple the customer base by releasing a PC version. The question is, how long before they bite the bullet and do it.

    I remember the Bungee guys, after having written Pathways Into Darkness, Marathon, etc saying we are Mac dudes, Macs rule, PC sucks – we are never going to code for the dirty PC. Wel, thankfully, Microsoft was able to change their minds and we ended up with Halo.

    I'm hoping the potential increase in revenue will bring us other clients for Dust. The coming of the PS4 is the ideal time to release them aswell.

    February 23, 2013 at 1:35 pm Reply
    1. lol

      Lol no. Sony are already doing that on the PC, it's called Planetside 2.

      February 23, 2013 at 2:42 pm Reply
      1. Lawlercopter

        Planetside 2 is a fad, gone within 2-3 years at most. There's no way that shitty game will stand the test of time.

        February 27, 2013 at 8:51 pm Reply
    2. SILENTSAM69

      It is really funny to see people claim this. Always good for a laugh.

      February 23, 2013 at 7:32 pm Reply
    3. g4minSINCEb4cnsles

      Given the PS4 is basically a PC masquerading as a console I doubt it will be very long after PS4 release of Dust that we finally see a PC release of it…..the platform it should always have been released on and the only platform in existence that it's worth playing an FPS on. You can't aim for shit with a gamepad, keyboard and mouse is the only sensible control set for an FPS.

      March 3, 2013 at 8:35 pm Reply
  9. iskbot#1337

    ccp please .. for the love of the old gods and the new ones make dust a 1080 kickass looking pre-installed game with keyboard and mouse bundle for the ps4 release.

    and everything is going to be alright

    every ps4 gamer will buy a keyboard and a mouse since games like diablo 3 are able to play so a cheaper start bundle makes totally sense.

    make it so

    February 23, 2013 at 2:16 pm Reply
  10. Cannonball1

    Sorry mates, but DUST is doomed. http://www.destinythegame.com/ Bungies is simply a better studio than CCP. Between these two somewhat similar games for the ps4, Destiny will have better gameplay, be better-looking, have a better storyline, better music, and just generally be better. It's not really CCP's fault–it's just that Bungie literally created every aspect of the sci-fi fps genre as we know it today.

    February 23, 2013 at 4:15 pm Reply
    1. Homey

      The one thing Destiny doesnt have? A direct relation to EvE.

      Try again x-bawx.

      February 23, 2013 at 4:29 pm Reply
      1. so destiny is just a souped up version of halo

        February 24, 2013 at 3:07 am Reply
    2. lolbungie

      > Bungie created every aspect of the sci-fi fps genre as we know it today
      > Bungie created sci-fi fps genre
      > Bungie created

      You just went full retard. Never go full retard.

      February 24, 2013 at 2:50 am Reply
    3. Lawlercopter

      I think DUST is doomed too, but wow Bungie did not invent sci-fi fps. Ever hear of System Shock? What about Doom?

      Go home nub.

      February 27, 2013 at 8:50 pm Reply
    4. C0nslesuck

      Yeah sure, people have been saying that about EVE for years now too, but it's still here and going strong. If the Console fans drop it, they'll just release it on PC and it'll likely do better than ever there.

      March 3, 2013 at 8:37 pm Reply
  11. OOgliebo0glyw0OGlie

    sony is in for a cut of the rmt or microtransactions or whatever they're called these days by the kids. as such, and representing the thin edge of the wedge for microtransaction DLC type on consoles, not to mention their last fiscal year, sony is in on this whole hog; bet your bottom dollar that any ps$.. sorry, ps4, console game that features any kind of additional revenue will be front and centre, particularly any game that has ZERO resale/used value.

    February 24, 2013 at 5:13 am Reply
  12. Bad decisions

    Whats hysterical is after making Dust a PS3 only title and fucking over their established base of pc gamers, the ps4 is gonna come out fully x86 and they could have just released on both with essentially the exact same code. Instead they developed for the silly ass Cell system of the PS3 and its going to be obsolete by the time dust even releases. PS3 games aren't even going to be playable on the PS4 without a full port.

    February 24, 2013 at 2:20 pm Reply
    1. Xenrek

      you realize, CCP ahs already been developing FOR the PS4, receibing a dev-kit like numerous other gaming companies.

      and the reason for the exclusivity is SIMPLE, they didnt want to split the eve playerbase on computer, SONY WOULD HAVE SCREWED THEM if they tried to compete with Planetside 2, and one fo the terms for the allowance of tranquility connection was a period of PS3 exclusivity.

      February 25, 2013 at 3:50 am Reply
      1. Bad decisions

        They might be developing for the iphone too, but that has nothing to do with the fact that they have wasted time and money developing for a dying platform at the very end of its life cycle. They are going to have perhaps a couple of months of exclusivity on PS3 before the launch of PS4. With no backwards compatibility they will need to have Dust for PS4 ready to go by November and I will eat my hat if they make even the first half of 2014 for the PS4 port. And if you released on PC you wouldn't have to care what Sony thought, although since your bringing it up that was another stupid idea, putting your success in the exclusive hands of your greatest direct competitor.

        February 25, 2013 at 4:17 pm Reply
        1. BeltPred

          Also… its not like every PS3 will die the second they release the ps4, there will still be a very large ps3 market.

          aswell as the fact that there can and WILL be backwards compatibility for the DUST servers, with a PS3 and 4 client, slowly phasing out the PS3 over 6 months.

          February 25, 2013 at 8:21 pm Reply
        2. Herp Derp

          They are collecting invaluable data through the beta test .
          Now they could do a beta with the ps4 but ….Derp .

          March 8, 2013 at 12:24 pm Reply
  13. After talking with some other people I've updated my view on this. I think Dust 514 will be more than just a PS4 launch title. I think it's going to be a title that pushes the Sony ecosystem via play ability on the Vita through streaming and potential integration in the PlayStation phone apps.

    I really do think we are going to end up with a dual engine setup where we have the PS3 using Unreal 3 and the PS4 using either Unreal 4 or potentially even Carbon.

    February 24, 2013 at 3:44 pm Reply
  14. Xenrek

    Unfortuneately fro Carbon, CCP would have to devote MAJOR resources to making it capable of supporting more than 5 people in a small room (on the computer, the initial carbon release KILLED computers if you recall).

    HOWEVER, an eventual upgrade of DUST to CARBON, would not only allow more badass customization adn graphics on DUST's part, but allow EVE and DUST players to be rendered in THE SAME SCENARIO, posisbly opening WiS to both groups unitedly.

    (though they really need to work on body-physics for CARBON, the stone-carved-chests on females, the mandatory heels, and the rather stiffness of movement is kinda ugly, would be nice to have personal "attitudes" for movement/emotes kind of like in STO, would also be nice if they enabled the character creator's level fo detail for the actual in-game play of WiS, since there is a serious downgrade when moving into the gaem environment).

    anyways, those are more or les the obstacles to DUST in CARBON…

    February 25, 2013 at 3:48 am Reply
  15. Noway

    "…it may be that Sony sees Dust 514 as title that will bring Halo-like launch success."

    Are you fucking serious?

    February 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm Reply
  16. Suspect bystander

    jez the amount of butthurt is funny, exclusive only last for a year before the publisher is free to relase to what ever medium they like.

    February 27, 2013 at 6:00 am Reply
  17. Markethopper

    It is doubtful Dust will get a revamp to PS4 capabilities before the PS4 becomes moderately priced. It will most likely just clone into the PS4 for those users who upgraded.

    Dust is free, launching a pre-installed free game onto a brand new system is kind of redundant for people who buy a PS4 since I am sure they would love a blaring PS4 capable game pre-installed instead. Especially when, even though Dust is free, it still requires a membership to play it from Sony.

    Regardless of upgrades, Dust will live on just as Eve will. It is a great innovation, it has much potential, but when it comes down to it CCP could make us shovel moon cow crap for building materials (moon poo) and as long it affected Eve Online, we would play it.

    March 4, 2013 at 12:11 am Reply
  18. Marlon
    September 4, 2013 at 6:53 pm Reply
  19. Marlon

    The PS4 is gonna be great!

    Sony Playstation 4 Console

    September 4, 2013 at 6:55 pm Reply

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