Pandemic Legion propaganda chief and CSM7 delegate brings us his (often controversial) regional updates. Buckle your seatbelt Dorothy, ’cause the Land of Drones is going bye-bye.


The first week of January was doubtlessly the most action that the Drone Regions had seen in quite some time.   The newly named Drone Region Coalition (ED, PNG, SCDOT, BCA, et al) had their hands full with PL and simply could not keep up with the frenetic pace.  The strain of fighting daily for two weeks hit DRC High Command the hardest as they began to be consumed with in-fighting.  Through the backbiting and passive-aggressive power grabs, the DRC High Command were able to agree on one thing: avoid PL and hope they get bored and go away.   A common maneuver which nearly always backfires horribly.

During the frenzied fighting period, DRC lost a single system to PL.  Under this new policy, a feisty PL attempted to provoke a reaction and in the process mugged 15 R32s, 7 pivotal stations, and an active CSAA.  The self-imposed isolation was costly, for sure. Things were looking grim for the DRC; leadership positions were in a constant state of flux, alliances and corporations decided to part ways, and PL were still running amok.  SOLAR were not faring much better, either, after N3 made a concerted effort to push them deeper and deeper into the drone regions.  Every new staging system SOLAR moved to, N3 reinforced and killed it in one fluid motion forcing both SOLAR and DRC into constantly changing HQs.   SOLAR adapted much better than the DRC, who were always seemingly behind the 8-ball.  The night is darkest just before the dawn, as they say, and dawn appeared to break when FA and Razor (FAZOR) announced that they would move to Great Wildlands to support both SOLAR and DRC in the fight against N3 and PL.


Set Fazors to Ineffective!

Everything was looking up for DRC: new leadership, handpicked by Mactep, new allies to bolster their cause, all following a near two-week respite from fights.  As FAZOR moved into E02, SOLAR and DRC waited with bells on for their new allies.  While E02 swelled with FAZOR carriers, N3 were eager to take on the rejuvenated SOLAR & Co counter-punch.  N3 were left at the proverbial alter, though, as the Great Counter never materialized.  This tepid response from FAZOR led a bemused N3 to resume operations as normal; SBUs went up, sovereignty fell, and DRC’s cautious optimism came crashing down.   DRC found itself hemorrhaging members once again with the announcement that PNG would be leaving the coalition.

In spite of the hardships and FAZOR’s impotence, DRC lifted its ban on engaging PL.   PL POSes were attacked, friendly systems were saved, and fights were had.  Although the fights had…limited success, they served as a catalyst to pump life back into the once-proud coalition.  In addition to this, DRC flew alongside SOLAR to bolster the ever-weakening relationship between the two entities.


Whispers From The Wildlands

The FAZOR deployment to the Wildlands was a very curious one from the onset.  Moving to help an entity that is being invaded, yet swearing off all forms of sov warfare.  Forming up for fights (over sov timers), yet basing from a location such that they cannot assist SOLAR without flying directly through either N3 or PL HQs.  This gimping, intentional or otherwise, has had a predictable result; FAZOR’s mere presence has made PL – who had never bothered to form for SOLAR timers – take note and form alongside.  Due to the positioning, FAZOR were forced to either fight PL alone, or disband.  Shockingly, even with a massive numerical edge, FAZOR continually decided to ~blueball~ PL before they ever bothered to fight.  FAZOR’s first weekend saw a 220 man Zealot fleet cower in fear of a 100 man PL fleet because, as their FC stated, “PL probably have blapdreads on standby”.  FAZOR’s second big stratop saw 180 Zealots stand down from 80 PL “because they have too many and we cannot split them up”, although PL were already 3 regions away from any hope of N3 support.   Without FAZOR support, SOLAR were forced to stand down their 250-man alpha fleet and lose two more systems.  Again.

The only signs of life out of the Wildlands come in the form of N3 drops on FAZOR’s home system, awkward 90-man roaming gangs to Curse, and police-ops around the surrounding regions.  FAZOR are clearly having deployment growing pains as they are large enough to merit notice, yet too large to effectively roam.  Still there is no sense of urgency from FAZOR and they continue to take it slow and plod along at a gentle place, this is after all their first time away from the CFC security blanket.  FAZOR’s odd positioning does have one benefit: they are just too far to hear SOLAR’s sighs of exasperation.

The Plight for Content

Morale Speeches

FAZOR Morale speeches, courtesy of spymaster Bluemajere:

– Elise Randolph

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  1. cattys

    lol fazor is so fail…….

    February 8, 2013 at 7:44 am Reply
  2. lol

    lol at fa/rzr leaders giving excuses while they stand down that are total bullshit then tell them how the enemy is bsing their members

    February 8, 2013 at 7:47 am Reply
    1. INKbob

      Yup, FCs in FAZOR misleading their guys on enemy fleet comp. is priceless. Did you really think you could lie to ur ppl like this and get away with it?

      February 8, 2013 at 5:07 pm Reply
      1. Elise Kardeshian

        PL would divorce Kayne West Goons, but the Goons do not let them. true story!

        February 8, 2013 at 5:13 pm Reply
  3. DavefromTI

    I was interested after reading the title,
    but then saw it was a Elise Randolph post and no shits were given.

    Pl propaganda, most boring indeed.

    February 8, 2013 at 7:50 am Reply
    1. Elise Kardeshian

      you dont like Elise Kardeshian? Whats more exiting than knowing about the latest Elise Kardeshian news? I dont understand ….

      February 9, 2013 at 3:06 pm Reply
  4. Wolfe

    I spent about 6 months in scdot was a good bunch of guys but there fc's where aweful as where most of the colation.
    Black aces stole around 80bil from scdot when they left and sold the space to black core alliance. There to disorgansesd and can not get there shit together to form a decent coalition they have the numbers but there two hour form ups, very poor fc's especially lord rhavin who used to go quiet in fleets as he brought everything off contracts with his alt and relisting them for double the price as he welped the fleets them screamed and shouted on ts blaming everyone else.

    We all know PL picks on weak targets to make them look good and they picked a good target with these guys, im sure it wont take pl and n3 to finish the area and take it all.

    February 8, 2013 at 7:52 am Reply
    1. apocalypse

      Yes lord rhavin is straight shit. I also am ex-scdot and it sucks that another small alliance has died..

      February 8, 2013 at 6:27 pm Reply
      1. lulz

        I hear that AAC & S3 have pulled out of PNG, thus collapsing in on their carebear corps, to go to greener pastures. Of course it also could be that the DRC are full of fail, run away, dock up "we're all gonna die" FC's. The Meat Shield Coalition…I mean the Drone Region Coalition should just admit they are full of fail and people are tired of it!

        February 9, 2013 at 7:08 am Reply
  5. Yoji

    Elise Randolph why type such long updates no one reads.

    Next time change the format to:
    PL space update,
    Shits happening,
    PL cool,
    Rest bad,
    insert TSwift pic.
    the end

    You will save yourself some time

    February 8, 2013 at 7:53 am Reply
    1. How long do you think it takes to write 400 words?

      February 8, 2013 at 7:07 pm Reply
      1. Solar Pet=Best Pet

        damm I feel special.. doing all this so you can get us to fight :)

        February 8, 2013 at 7:44 pm Reply
      2. Credacom

        actually it's almost 800 words….but I bet it does take you hours and hours longer to flip through your TSwift pic folder for an image than it does to write the high-quality body of your article.

        February 13, 2013 at 3:18 am Reply
      3. mittens for csm8

        with these guys brains from headdesking allday about 2 weeks elise lol

        March 6, 2013 at 5:22 am Reply
  6. wtf

    stfu nc. noob 😀
    they r not fail , they r space monkeys!!!

    February 8, 2013 at 7:54 am Reply
  7. PL not so win

    This article and Elise are ignorant… Dude really you think PL had this large an impact on the area?? Youre insane.

    February 8, 2013 at 7:55 am Reply
  8. BlackIron_S

    I don't see how you can call this a war, Its just us (N3 et al..) taking everything. It's somewhat depressing to us grunts because… "I came here for fights but all I got was this shitty t-shirt" This was all more fun when these same people were attacking our space in the North.

    February 8, 2013 at 8:06 am Reply
    1. srsly man

      try joining the side that is the underdogs for once

      February 9, 2013 at 1:41 am Reply
  9. EvE

    Solar were stupid enough not to help Nulli and NC. fight the CFC. That mistake is now costing them their alliance.

    February 8, 2013 at 8:13 am Reply
    1. INKbob

      lol, theres a quote from MacTep if u look up our alliance.

      Its explains how INK isnt going to take Detorid without AAAs and Solars permission. Well, AAA has bitch flipped to PL and Solar isnt doing so well either. They just lost PNG I hear. Whos gonna jump ship next? It really doesnt matter how many pets/allies you have, its the end of the line.

      Solar keeps making mistakes, was the CFC or NC choice the first domino? It doesnt really matter anymore. The terrible/awful/unbearbale sov warfare will continue cause we r so badass we can handle it, and then solar will be gone.

      Mittens must think we are so brave taking on all this structure grinding, wishing he had pilots of the same calibre. 😛

      February 9, 2013 at 2:40 am Reply
      1. Highsec Perspective

        For some reason, I get the feeling that N3 are not going to go all the way in killing off SOLARCO. SOLARCO have as many stations and systems as the CFC or HBC IIRC, that's a shit-ton of structure grinding and so far, given the extent to which the combat has favoured N3, they haven't actually made too much progress. Yes, Insmother has been lost (after 2 months of conflict, right?), but the take-over of Cache is coming along very slowly and Etherium Reach is glacial in speed (although admittedly, that does not seem to be a priority for N3).

        Part of this might be FAZOR diverting some attention/pressure away from SOLARCO by deploying in Great Wildlands. My suspicion though is that, N3 will not break the morale of SOLARCO – at least, not in the sense of seeing them failcascade unless N3 really picks up the pace and pressures them more, then you might see the more vulnerable alliances like BCA and ROGUE crack, but I can't envision SOLAR itself splitting apart. SOLARCO may continue to avoid major engagements, but they will make a persistent effort to contest and challenge N3s advance where they feasibly can.

        This contestation, combined with the amount of structure grinding gives SOLARCO time, and time is actually on SOLARCOs side IMO, which gets back to the point I opened with. I believe time is on SOLARCOs side because:

        1. SOLAR is probably making quite a bit of money from their renters, and every month they maintain their renting empire is extra cash in their wallet to prolong the war or make a come-back. They have more renters than Nulli and Red Alliance combined (does NC. have renters?) so they stand to make more money each month than either alliance (potentially).

        2. In the time (months!! maybe half a year or more?) it takes to take Malpais, Etherium Reach, Perrigan Falls, the Spire, Oasa and w/e other regions SOLARCO have, I won't be surprised if HBC and CFC escalate their conflict, which will draw N3s attention and spare SOLARCO to re-build (or also join in). Another thing is that, HBC, or CFC might see that N3 is growing too strong and pre-emptively attack N3 before they can wipe out SOLARCO.

        So, in spite of the disbanding of PNG and AAA (Anomalies), if I'm a SOLARCO grunt, I think I'd be a tad more optimistic than people would care to expect.

        TL;DR SOLARCO has a metric assload of systems + won't break too easy, means N3 will be at it for months, at which point various things may happen that will gravitate N3s attention to the CFC and HBC.

        February 10, 2013 at 5:04 am Reply
  10. Watching blobbers whining about blobs is priceless.
    Hey Fagdul! Remember Tribute?

    February 8, 2013 at 8:16 am Reply
  11. -_-

    Fazor are weak because they have been part of the CFC which is a non PvPing tech RMTing coalition. You have to wonder how so many people in EvE were stupid enough to join the CFC in the first place. It can only be the lure of PvE that convinced them. It doesn't matter what ships you have in EvE if you don't know how to use them. And to know how to use them, you need to use them every day without fail.

    People in EvE need to realize that you PvP every day of the week or you loose at EvE, no matter where you are in EvE or what you are doing.

    February 8, 2013 at 8:20 am Reply
  12. N3 Grunt
    February 8, 2013 at 9:00 am Reply
  13. PL is sooooo bad

    😀 If PL blob dreads and stuff why you guys are not counter blob PL ? hmm just standing there and crying like a child. And how bad PL is is pathetic..

    February 8, 2013 at 9:48 am Reply
  14. Vaximillian

    The one thing I find funny is how PL now complains about the reputation that it itself has created. Oh no one will fight us because they think we have blapdreads and any numbers of titans and supers on standby waaaah. Well, that's how PL "fights". Early on when they first came to Dronelands ED and friends would bring fights. Fights were had, for instance, over LXQ. Every time the fight started to go in the favor of anyone who opposed PL BAM they just cyno in a shit ton of supers and caps and blap everything then smack in local about how awesome they are. Before TEST was batphoned along with PL, RA, Nulli, WhYs0, Gorgon, Darkspawn, RANE, and several other entities were getting their asses handed to them by the dronelands alliances. So now the decaying corpse that is RA gets dragged into yet another area this year and kept on life support as they have hired PL to take the fight they couldn't handle themselves.

    February 8, 2013 at 10:13 am Reply
    1. anonymous

      I agree except when "Oh no one will fight us because they think we have blapdreads" was stated Fatal Ascension were in zealots. If you lose zealots to blap dreads you should probably never play this game again.

      February 8, 2013 at 5:09 pm Reply
      1. asdf

        What makes you think their blapdreads were only relevant (or rather, not) in that one situation?

        February 9, 2013 at 6:46 pm Reply
    2. zef

      Before TEST was batphoned along with PL, RA, Nulli, WhYs0, Gorgon, Darkspawn, RANE, and several other entities were getting their asses handed to them by the dronelands alliances


      February 9, 2013 at 9:55 pm Reply
    3. safdasfad

      No, Red Alliance could fend for itself perfectly with some assistance with their trusted allies (N3 and NCC). Pandemic Legion was not hired, but they actually went for a 'vacation'. Though to be honest, this is a HOT vacation. And if you complain about blobs, look at the blog. SOLAR repeatedly stood down from PL fleets even when they had a numerical advantage of over 2 to 1. And as for PL blapdreads and titans…SOLAR isn't dumb, nor poor, can't they use their own?

      Have a think about it before you dislike my comment…

      February 10, 2013 at 9:46 am Reply
    4. Thodoros

      Vaxi, you are hurting Elise Randolph feelings man.
      And thats the best propaganda tool that PL has at the moment! 😀
      Shampoo will have fits reading this reply. ^^

      February 10, 2013 at 1:45 pm Reply
  15. asdf

    Shockingly, even with a massive numerical edge, FAZOR continually decided to ~blueball~ PL before they ever bothered to fight. FAZOR’s first weekend saw a 220 man ***Zealot*** fleet cower in fear of a 100 man PL fleet because, as their FC stated, “PL probably have ***blapdreads*** on standby”.

    Because clearly the counter to sig tanking ships like zealots is blapdreads…

    February 8, 2013 at 10:34 am Reply
  16. n3biatch

    Excuses excuses..and really fucking bad excuses for not wanting to fight. PL this N3 that.. its all tinfoil hat on and i love how PL on playing it :) If you really knew how little we work together you would be really sad. But i suspect that your leadership knows but its a good excuse to blame it on the evil N3 with those damn PL holding their hands..if it was ONLY the N3 we would beat the shit out of them.. because admitting their total failure would be out of the question.

    I hear the exact same words i heard from -A- leadership 6 months ago.. don't give them fights and the evil attackers will surely go away. We all know how that turned out right? The very same person that said those words in -A- is now fighting with PL holding the gun to your heads. I got news for you.. we will not go away.. we will stay until the work is done. We really don't care if you fight or not.. the less you fight the faster we are done and we can move on to shooting some people that wants to fight. SOLAR needs to die.. simple as that.. SOLAR's time is up just like -A- time was up.

    To those that are allies with SOLAR.. there is no hope, there is no escape. SOLAR will die and no matter what you do.. you can't do anything to stop that. While you are fighting us and buying their propaganda about how everything is going to change and that they will beat back this attack they are busy jumping their shit out of their space and making as much isk as they can on renters & pets while trying to do some backroom deal that will not include you to save their own ass.

    The smart thing to do is to think about your future. If you want to stay where you are now you need to contact N3 or RA and make a deal, otherwise we will grind your space to and we don't care if you hide in a station or if you fight us, the result will be the same.. you will lose everything.

    February 8, 2013 at 11:33 am Reply
  17. FuckHBC

    Actually, blueballing PL and giving them fast victory is the only way to see them die. Now, there is only three entities left: SOLAR bloc (just about to be destroyed), Provi bloc (invasion about to begin), N3 (just to start after SOLAR and Provi is finished). Then, HBC/CFC/PL donut will be complete and faggy blob will finally have no other option than starting consuming itself. The sooner in happens the better, the donut closing and inevitable "great restart" must begin asap. Because this situation is so terrifucking boring, it is always about one enemy being fought by the rest of EVE.
    Also, PL must disband, by taking potential leaders in, they made forming new alliances and blocs impossible. Maka, Lee, Mukk and many other could just start their own things, form independentr entities and be "someone" in there, while in PL they are just one of many.

    February 8, 2013 at 12:07 pm Reply
  18. The Dark Apostle

    I play this game for fun! It's fun to win, it's fun to lose. What is not fun is the chest beating forum warrior shit you see here and on other sites!

    Stop telling people how bad they are and showing your smugness in the process, it makes you look like a douche! Play the game, if they are bad they will figure it out via loss mails!

    February 8, 2013 at 2:37 pm Reply
  19. Mike

    So days after Shampoo said he didn't want to do so war, PL did sov. war.

    February 8, 2013 at 3:05 pm Reply
    1. Pink Panther

      coz they got payed. wound;t you if you get payed ?

      February 9, 2013 at 9:00 am Reply
      1. Elise Kadeshian

        that is the whole point. PL RMT, so why should hey make Sov war, if it is just to generate a fun war?

        February 9, 2013 at 3:02 pm Reply
      2. Shogun

        PL hasn't been a mercenary for literately years. In fact when they moved into the drone region they said it was for good fights….. yeah good fights versus Solar pets….. they side that was already losing to N3 they thought would be a good place to dogpile onto, and get good fights. The truth is PL doesn't look for good fights, to everyone else in the game a good fight is one that could go ether way, but PL is so risk averse that they will never take a fight unless they can escalate it the moment things don't go their way.

        also "coz", and "wound't" are not real words.

        February 9, 2013 at 3:26 pm Reply
  20. PL <> RnK
    one drops shield triage while outnumbered and is shit, the other drops armor triage and is awesome.
    i brought up RnK because they do the exact same thing as PL but then maybe a bit smaller while they're about equally rich. my point here : STFU AND PLAY THE FUCKING GAME INSTEAD OF CRYING IN A CORNER

    February 8, 2013 at 4:30 pm Reply
    1. bp920091

      The difference here is that RnK haven't become so hated in the Eve Community by:

      Spying on virtually every group in Eve
      Dropping Supercarriers on every possible target
      Having a completely antagonistic attitude (To extreme extents)
      Consistently Ruining the game by perpetuating the "Blue Donut"
      Getting the rewards of MoonGoo without any sov being held

      PL has used EVERY SINGLE ONE of these tactics, and that's what separates them from RnK

      Now, if CCP would just delete every PL Character/Super, eve can actually start healing, rather than continuing to die slowly via blueing everyone within 50 jumps.

      February 14, 2013 at 4:38 am Reply
  21. Scar

    Good ole retarded Solar. They should have thrown their weight behind -A- and Co. At least they'd still have that buffer between them and the hoards to the west.

    February 8, 2013 at 4:52 pm Reply
  22. INKbob

    Seriously now? Since when has a drone region alliance even remotely bothered INK?? Solar said they was gonna evict us, see how well thats going?

    Check KBs, you'll find ur Drone Region buddies dieing pretty regular to us.

    February 8, 2013 at 5:03 pm Reply
  23. PL love Sov war

    you can see that, if you watch, who is most active titan – AND most kills are structures. Boy … they showed them structuers, who s ze boss.

    February 8, 2013 at 5:07 pm Reply
  24. anonymous

    Yea "their word" helped -A- out a lot

    February 8, 2013 at 5:10 pm Reply
  25. Eyeama Spy

    Damm, me and mine love fighting PL. We regard them as the biggest carebears in eve, they have actualy dropped 5 titans and supercap suport just to kill 1 of my guys in a huricane back in provi…real great pvpers:)

    February 8, 2013 at 5:10 pm Reply
  26. Elise Kardeshian

    PL would divorce Kayne West Goons, but the Goons do not let them. true story!

    February 8, 2013 at 5:14 pm Reply
  27. MrHappy420

    See, that would be why you are stupid. When supercarriers can kill sig tanked Tengu's with fighters. Yet Battleships cannot hit the fighters or the Tengu, Then yes there is something wrong with this game. Basically whomever has the most espensive toys wins.

    February 8, 2013 at 6:02 pm Reply
  28. MrHappy420

    When I can sit in a cloaked Recon with a cyno AFK and by myself, disrupt hundreds of carebear miners for fear of my hotdrops then I win eve. Why should I fight and lose ships when I can just go afk and win?

    February 8, 2013 at 6:06 pm Reply
    1. anonymous

      because that isn't winning

      February 8, 2013 at 6:17 pm Reply
      1. Humble_miner

        It's winning for him.

        February 9, 2013 at 7:13 am Reply
  29. Alifikduzimir

    NCdot had negotiations with Solar for them to join in the fight against the CFC. No agreement was reached. NCdot then even offered Solar all of Geminate on a silver plate just to stay out of the conflict and MACTEP still said no. Stubborn russian.

    February 8, 2013 at 6:11 pm Reply
    1. Humble_miner

      And you have any evidence of the Geminate proposal? Because I think that was denied by both sides.

      February 9, 2013 at 7:11 am Reply
  30. Nulli Grunt

    To OP, you should call them…FaGzors !

    February 8, 2013 at 6:20 pm Reply
  31. Dotbros

    To be clear, FAZORS blueballs everyone–PL, N3, RA, everyone.

    February 8, 2013 at 6:30 pm Reply
    1. xxxxx

      FA/Razor, making elite spaceship computer game nerds mad since 12'

      February 9, 2013 at 1:55 pm Reply
  32. Seagun

    They already have a nice video – http://evenews24.com/2012/07/05/recruitment-video

    February 8, 2013 at 6:30 pm Reply
  33. apocalypse

    FA you will only bring more km's. FA failed in provi & syndica.. it will be nice watching them make the CFC look terabad. Hopefully it escaltes the much needed cfc hbc war

    February 8, 2013 at 6:31 pm Reply
    1. xxxxx

      The Acpocalypse was December 31st 1999 fool.

      February 8, 2013 at 6:58 pm Reply
  34. Yoji

    Fine with me, just why is he bothering us with his RL troubles??

    Go buy some zanex or a gun.

    February 8, 2013 at 6:56 pm Reply
  35. xxxxx

    It takes him four paragrahs to make one point. I wish I knew him back in college so I could had him write my thesis.

    February 8, 2013 at 7:17 pm Reply
  36. Satan

    My bet is your not in PL cause if you were you would likely know the following.

    Raiden did NOT want our help they were having the time of their life until Titans got nerfed. At which point they decided to leave the area and still have us protect their tech moons for them. We told them that would NOT happen and if they wanted those tech moons they would need to hold their space nor run away from it.

    Oh and last but not least PL had the same agreement with Raiden as us, why didn't you come to help Raiden?

    February 8, 2013 at 7:34 pm Reply
    1. PL Member

      Questioning PL's actions is not an issue, its clear why we did what we did (we love our tech) and we stand by it.

      Also a reminder, you poached Raiden's moons, renter and isk holding corp as soon as an opportunity presented itself, after which Raiden evaced from the north and gave up.

      If you are just a grunt talking, I am sure that your leaders told you that Raiden did not want your help (but instead hired Initiative and Evoke just for shit and gigles), and you are forgiven for your blinding obedience…

      February 8, 2013 at 7:55 pm Reply
      1. Satan

        Like I said you have no idea wtf your talking about.

        I was in every channel with Raiden FC's, their exact words were "were having the time of our lives please stay away" for now. That lasted up until Titans got nerfed at which point they knew as well as us that no way could they hold out.

        The plan was for us to get involved however raidens leadership had other ideas and started to fail cascade. At which point we were told that they were leaving the area to "Rebuild" them selves. Which was fine but we instantly told them that doing so would make your tech moons open to attack.

        They started moving out and we started taking tech moons. Think we were more than reasonable, considering we were the ones left there to face goons alone at that point.

        February 8, 2013 at 9:44 pm Reply
      2. BntyHunter

        You are an idiot and most likely a Goon. Most Goons are smarter at the top, so I`d bet 100% Newb Goonie grunt.

        February 9, 2013 at 10:59 pm Reply
    2. BntyHunter

      He isnt PL, he is a douche acting like one which is very sad.

      February 9, 2013 at 1:41 am Reply
  37. Ex BCA grunt

    Keep smoking that pipe, if a 7 man gang is keeping a 2,000 man alliance docked up because he can't rat or can't replace their BC is just sad, you might as well transfer all sov now to save your tears. BCA has and will always reek of crabs and used tampons.

    February 8, 2013 at 7:58 pm Reply
  38. lol

    lol this news site is so shit

    February 8, 2013 at 8:05 pm Reply


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      February 8, 2013 at 8:44 pm Reply
  40. bitchplease

    Only a miracle will save Solar….

    February 8, 2013 at 8:34 pm Reply
  41. PL squadie

    Outnumbered by 200? How I dream of only being outnumbered by 200..

    If you can't fly a AHAC fleet against battleships and dreads.. you haven't got a clue.. you know that dreads can't hit AHACs right? You have to pretty terrible to be hit by battleships in them too.

    If you can't fight like a real pvp alliance… just do the rest of eve a favour get the hell out of 0.0.

    Real friends and allies would go balls deep and actually deploy in solar space to assist them.

    February 8, 2013 at 9:00 pm Reply
    1. Kiyohime Ronuken

      If the PVP is so bad in DroneLands – GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. LOL.

      If you like the Dronelands so much, just take it all and try living there a while. There really isn't any massive isk to make there. It'll be boring as all get-out since you'll be in the big blue doughnut.

      The regular inhabitants eek out a living doing click-fest PI, mining and / or ratting. The base ratting isn't that bad but it's still much lower return for time than other 0.0. The bordering NPC 0.0 can actually be way more profitable and guys often use that space and 'door' WHs to ninja-rat when they can.

      No – I suspect this won't mean anything to you. Sometime about 6 months, maybe a year on the outside someone'll distract you elsewhere – and you'll go beat those guys up for their space. Maybe it'll be better than Dronelands, IDK.

      PL: The Rich. The Blob. The Bandwagon.

      February 8, 2013 at 9:22 pm Reply
  42. shsjsjsj

    Elise Randolph is a spaceship nerd virgin who drives a honda civic and links pictures of Taylor swift thinking its cool/funny

    February 8, 2013 at 9:22 pm Reply
  43. Satan

    Like Solar gave their "word" to protect IRC? How did that work out?

    Or wait how Solar gave their "word" to help AAA? And all those involved?

    Get over it words in eve mean nothing actions are what shows intentions. Fact is NC. even though not allied with IRC in any way at most of those times came to save IRC from Goons constant incursions, while Solar NEVER did (may be wrong on this but unlikely).

    February 8, 2013 at 9:50 pm Reply
    1. Guy

      So howcome IRC lost their space, were never supported against razor and were offered no space to rebuild despite n3 having a huge gain of new systems?

      February 8, 2013 at 10:59 pm Reply
      1. Satan

        IRC were not our allies or pets…

        That was Solars job.

        February 8, 2013 at 11:41 pm Reply
        1. Guy

          What about in Tribute? Are you saying they weren't your allies? They pretty much gave up standings with solar to have ncdot blue.

          February 9, 2013 at 12:10 am Reply
          1. point of view

            Thats what you get when you have a snake for a friend

            February 9, 2013 at 12:30 am
          2. BntyHunter

            No they didnt. They backed off as soon as SOLAR started fighting us and made it clear they were SOLAR`s allies and that we just had a common enemy.

            Of course that changed when SOLAR stabbed them.

            Also you realize IRC might come down and live with N3 right?

            February 9, 2013 at 1:42 am
          3. Guy

            I'd really hope IRC gets a chance from you guys, because diplomacy and helping allies has always been ncdot and to a lesser extent nulli's weakest point and has been the main reason for their past failings.

            February 9, 2013 at 1:52 am
          4. BntyHunter

            No it hasn`t at all.

            If you knew who was really NCDOT`s ally`s then you could make a case.

            NCDOT in the past was always so damned picky and soooo outspoken about who there allies were and who were just Blues for now.

            DRF was never official perm blues to NCDOT. Both sides always spoke about NIP`s and often.

            Look at its clear allies.

            Evoke, for all the years with NCDOT were our brothers and we lived breathed and fought as one until Evoke changed leaders. No one can say we were bad allies…Ever

            Cry Havoc, for the entire time I was with CH, I loved NCDOT and they ALWAYS even when outnumbered 20:1 when we lost the D2 pocket and our 30 moons came to our side and wasted as many ships as it took to help us.

            Dead Terrorists, same thing always helped them.

            PL, we have only been the best of allies to PL and put there moons before our well being..Period.

            BL, you can say what you want about us fighting but we would go there today and help them like Lord of the rings if they blew the horn for help.

            Nulli we have also had great relations with and ask them if they have had better friends than us.

            Sorry but the whole "NCDOT is weak with allies" is crap, we are just very choosey on allies and let people know besides the list here that it could change.

            So our enemies use it as a tool to try and keep us from forming allegiance`s. Fact is if we fought HBC after helping to kill CFC you guys would still be saying, AFTER we had said 1k times we wern`t blue, that we betrayed HBC. Its just not the case.

            February 9, 2013 at 7:04 am
          5. Guy

            I know you're kind of ridiculous but I get the impression that your leadership takes the same attitude. Ncdot won't improve without admitting to past mistakes, especially diplomatically. You lost Tribute because of several poor decisions. Don't go blaming it on something else. Look at what ncdot did before Tribute fell and try and learn from those mistakes.

            If n3 is going to hold together after the grinding is done ncdot and nulli need to do a better job than they have in the past.

            February 9, 2013 at 7:51 am
          6. BntyHunter

            Once more I argue facts, and you name call with 0 to argue.

            You are the one who is ridiculous. And sounds like emotionally attached.

            I find it very funny how you seem to know so much about what happens but wasn`t there for any of it.

            So once more please list the guys we screwed over who were allies.

            If your theory is we would have won in Tribute had we done differant things please name them or please STFU. Fact is we were never short on skill, and even when we had BL`s extra numbers we were losing the timer wars because they just brought to many.

            We lost after BL because we lost 50-80 of is per fleet. But we screwed nobady over in the Tribute war at all. IRC sure as shit knows we didnt, so you alone think so.

            I have never argued our diplo needed to be better and have said it multiple times, we should have handled BL a lot better, we should have fought harder to keep Iron guys and there is a lot more, but WE DID NOT SCREW OVER ALLIES.

            Name instances or please stop talking.

            February 9, 2013 at 8:02 pm
          7. Guy

            Well you admitted losing because of diplomatic problems with BL at least. That's a good start. Now ask yourself why your smaller allies like IRC either brought 5 people to fleets or quit after the first month.

            You see, after you lose at something you need to look at it and ask why it happened. You don't. That's why you'll always be terrible and will always write five paragraph posts about Spartans.

            February 9, 2013 at 11:10 pm
          8. BntyHunter

            No I dont admit that at all.

            Please read. I said with or without BL we would lose….With BL we lost less quickly. BL knew it, Nulli knew it, GSF knew it, We knew it.

            First off you only read that IRC only brought 5 allies, you wern`t there. Secondly IRC never had a large stake in the war to begin with and only backed off and only was hesitant at all because of SOLAR. If IRC knew SOLAR was going to leave them we would have had 150 IRC guys everyday, that was there issue not ours.

            We didn`t lose in Triubute. Losing means we waged war not knowing if we would lose SOV. We wern`t gambling, we never had illusions of winning, it was guys like you who started these theories that we had a choice, and because we did so well against impossible odds now you guys mention we lost.

            We won TBH. What did we win? We won the respect of Eve by fighting a force almost no one our size could have fought. We won our right to exist and not break apart like the rest of ALli`s who lose SOV, We won the right to carry on and have others join us and become something more….We went from DOTBros a 3 man Co-Op force to N3 a major force in the game.

            We fought because we were going to lose our SOV either way and instead of whinge and bitch about it we fought and now because we surprised everyone, esp mittens and the Goons we live and fight on.

            You one more only name call and dont write any facts except those you read about. You know very little about Eve and are a product of the 2009-2010 player boom. I asked for instances and all you do is try to insult, and change the topic and twist words like a gossiping school boy.

            February 10, 2013 at 12:39 am
          9. Guy

            "We didn`t lose in Triubute."

            Pretty much sums up everything right there.

            February 10, 2013 at 1:55 am
          10. BntyHunter

            There you go again offering nothing but wanna be funny one liners based in no facts.

            Im realizing the pattern,,I say something with facts that you just hate with no facts except what your other CFC boys tell you. Then you name call and rave about meanigless shit. Then I comback with more prrof of these things and you get so pissed it comes back to you not even reading the things I write to look cool.

            I said we knew from bigining we were going to lose our SOV for this upcoming fight…..LOSING SOV DOES NOT MEAN LOSING

            Seriously READ….We lost a battle in a 5 year series of wars.

            Losing in Tribute would have been us displaced and then us failcascade and be poor….Instead we were richer than most Bteam CFC while having best player participation in the whole war.

            We won in gaining huge morale and finnally showing peeps GSF could bleed and wern`t god…..Have no illusuions without NCDOT/NULLI groups like Red, 401k. BL could not keep fighting, but they showed themselves based on what we did that GSF was very weak to the right guys.


            February 10, 2013 at 8:04 am
          11. Guy

            I think you need to pull out your capslock button.

            February 10, 2013 at 8:40 am
          12. Solar Pet=Best Pet

            " We won the respect of Eve"



            Is there such a thing? =/

            February 10, 2013 at 8:57 am
          13. PL Duder

            You still didn`t answer his question. When did NC. do wrong against an ally and not a Temp Blue?

            And before you say Raiden, read what Satan wrote. He was right Raiden told both us [from PL] and NCDOT to stay away during the fight. Then the Titan Nerf came. We in Pl were lucky we have a lot more than just Titans, but Raiden relied on them. So before Raiden knew they would fail they split.

            Hunter isn`t on my wavelength about everything, but you do talk a lot of nonsense you know little about.

            February 10, 2013 at 1:02 am
          14. Guy

            Nope they did nothing wrong and everything right. Clearly. The thing that happened with raiden was obviously the best possible outcome.

            February 10, 2013 at 1:57 am
          15. BntyHunter

            mORE OF THE Same sarcastic shit to hide the facts

            Non of us ever have said we were perfect, like you act we do. You seriously just have no smart things to say so you lash out like a 2 year old

            February 10, 2013 at 8:07 am
          16. Guy

            Actually let me elaborate a bit.

            Before 2012 NCdot, Raiden, Evoke and White noise held a pretty large amount of space (four regions in fact). White noise was a bit of a hopeless case so you could discount that.

            In a broad sense the thing that happened was that none of these alliances ever took advantage of their space. Ncdot in particular didn't need it for ratting and could've built up some solid allies (TMA doesn't count). Instead they were happy to rely on supers and admittedly excellent fleet comps and fcs while letting vast amounts of good space go to waste. Meanwhile PL saw what was going to happen and built up a coalition with Test.

            Later on when Brick was invading geminate almost by itself there was very little attempt to either intervene or negotiate. Ncdot would dump fleets on brick caps from time to time and would literally cyno back out 15 minutes later, leaving their allies to lose objectives and eventually die for no reason. They also shot down supers that were grinding down supposedly friendly objectives when giantsbane came along. They also left SONE to lose Kevela. Keep in mind that solar never got involved in geminate until that big carrier loss in mid 2012. Brick should never, ever have been able to take any of that region.

            During the tribute war itself I heard that IRC players in ceptors would get shot down by friendlies because flying that was unacceptable for some reason. A lot of people felt like ncdot didn't want their contribution. Unthinkables got annoyed and quit really early on. TMA were left trying to break down SBU's by themselves and at the end of it the whole thing collapsed because of a falcon. Lets not mention supertwinkey.

            I know this is hard to believe but, despite all the shitty things in geminate and elsewhere, the dotbros were able to form fleets upwards of 5-600 early on.

            But no, it was never ncdot's fault. It was solar backstabbing or cfc blobbing or whatever other ridiculous excuse people come up with.

            February 10, 2013 at 3:19 am
          17. BntyHunter

            OMG there is so much wrong….. Also you are supposed to explain why we are not good allies….You are doing very poorly.

            "Later on when Brick was invading geminate almost by itself there was very little attempt to either intervene or negotiate. Ncdot would dump fleets on brick caps from time to time and would literally cyno back out 15 minutes later, leaving their allies to lose objectives and eventually die for no reason. They also shot down supers that were grinding down supposedly friendly objectives when giantsbane came along. They also left SONE to lose Kevela. Keep in mind that solar never got involved in geminate until that big carrier loss in mid 2012. Brick should never, ever have been able to take any of that region. "

            We might have been able to build up lower friendly alliances, but guess what, we arent like CFC or others who love having 25 friends, we rather have 3-4 GREAT ONES, that we will do anything for. We had Evoke, BL and Raiden and its all the help we needed or wanted. We put into our PVP x4 as much as into PR, right or wrong its makes us one of the best`s.

            All of your rambling about how we left 15mins early etc doesnt make sense.

            We never shot IRC ceptors for being fitted wrong unless it was a one time thing. Thats Bullshit because we run super tight fleets with very little messing around. Alot didnt come or were afraid to because of 1 guy who messed up and said stupid shit to….Guess what every alli makes mistakes and we admit it. On the other hand to let 1 jerk from your ally say 1 bad thing ruin your support for them ix 1k more stupid.

            Man your timeline is fucked also you exaggerate horribly. Think still helped us vs SOLAR but had there hands whole VS CFC, it wasn`t andthing else except they could fight one.

            Nothing collapsed, here you go spouting off like a girl. OMG THE ENTIRE THING IS GONE BECAUSE A FALCON OMG NCDOT+NULL cant fight them off at all….WHAT WILL THEY DO?

            In reality we went from losing 3 Systems a week to 4 per week.
            That was the sum total of BL leaving.

            All we did was lose faster at a 25% rate faster. You try and make it sound like we ever had hope with BL.

            The only way we winn CFC is NC./NULLI/BL/PL/AAA and the rest of N3 and at the time we wern`t as organized.

            I know this is hard to believe but, despite all the shitty things in geminate and elsewhere, the dotbros were able to form fleets upwards of 5-600 early on. "

            I was there this is bullshit, Dotbros hit 450 2 days in a row and that was the most

            There was NO FAULT, IT WASNT SOLARS FAULT they said no.
            IT WASNT BL`s or the falcons

            THE WAR WAS DOOMED TO BEGIN WITH ACCEPT IT AND FOR SHIT SAKES GIVE IT UP, your information is appalling.

            February 10, 2013 at 8:28 am
          18. Guy

            Man you are really going off the deep end.

            February 10, 2013 at 8:39 am
          19. BntyHunter

            But hey it shows me why you think like you do….You just have read everything you commented on

            February 10, 2013 at 8:28 am
          20. BntyHunter

            Also Im a Ex-Professional Soldier with a Major in Military history, I use many historical military analogies, Its not my fault all you know of War is from the movie 300…Apparently its all you hold onto.

            February 10, 2013 at 1:26 am
          21. Guy

            But do you use Sun Tzu?

            February 10, 2013 at 2:02 am
          22. BntyHunter


            February 10, 2013 at 8:29 am
          23. Guy

            I also use Sun Tzu daily.

            February 10, 2013 at 8:57 am
          24. Nulli has no Pets

            Nulli is an alliance that's famous for treating it's allies with respect even it's weakest ones. If anything Nulli is probably the biggest builder of bridges in the game. You ask anyone who is Nulli's allie and they will tell you they are very good friends and loyal to each other. If you are talking about -A-? -A- didn't deploy their ships to defend Nulli space, even though the entire defense of the south relied on Delve not falling. -A- thought they could just blue ball the enemy until they got bored and we can all see how that worked out for -A-.

            February 9, 2013 at 8:09 am
          25. Guy

            Ncdot on the other hand hasn't been the best ally in the past. Hopefully all the diplomatic stuff has been handed over to nulli.

            The thing that was so frustrating about the tribute war was the inability of dotbros to work on their diplomacy. It's months later and we've still got people who are incapable of admitting they lost and that they lost for a reason. It'd be a shame to see the same thing happen again.

            February 9, 2013 at 8:17 am
      2. Nulli and former IRC

        Because IRC is now a dead alliance with broken leadership and not one good corp left within that rotting carcass.

        February 9, 2013 at 3:21 am Reply
  44. Gecko

    Screw that we need new ppl to rise up and lead, all the guys that left leadership positions to join PL were not the best leaders. The other thing is most of those guys aren't loyal so they start a new power block a year or so later we are back here again block is dead they join PL. We need more players to step up to FC I myself want to learn how to FC.

    February 8, 2013 at 9:53 pm Reply
  45. CFC

    PL constantly hotdrop fleets and get pissed when fleets blueball thinking they will do the same thing again, PL leave caps at home and stop dropping uni fleets and thinking your pro

    February 8, 2013 at 10:09 pm Reply
    1. EVE_Dude

      Few null residents will bother with a fleet to engage a roam that is known to hot drop. Good luck finding your fights.

      This was a war, at one point, then everyone and their dog showed up to punch Solar for "good fites". Now it's a blob. When the blob wants space, they will bring as much hardware as they need to take it, and it's pointless to undock and lose your ships just so they can get their "good fites".

      These massive blue coalitions need to STFU about people not giving them fights. Just come over, take whatever space you want, and pat yourself on the back.

      February 9, 2013 at 5:51 am Reply
      1. Credacom

        CFC… EVE_Dude dead fucking on….best post reply to this shit-spew PL stroke article.

        February 13, 2013 at 2:59 am Reply
  46. Boobtube

    Lol failzor making the excuse to their noobs that n3 doesnt want to fight, and that N3 would fight with equal numbers, it's failzor that won't fight even with 2:1 odds in their favour as ncdot on there on would pillage rape and plunder their pathetic fleet, he'll would say nulli alone would slaughter failzor!
    Yawn excuses grow balls or run back to papa goon.

    February 8, 2013 at 10:20 pm Reply
  47. pew pe pew

    how about 2-3 triage carriers ?

    and there was many more in their fleet but they seem to have failed at whoring on the few kills they made :)

    February 8, 2013 at 10:26 pm Reply
  48. Simple man

    As the likely FC PL would "batphone", I can assure you it would take a while for us to form subcaps and get them to where the timers are in drone lands.

    And that's assuming we happen to have a couple titan dudes around and appropriate 3-4 cynos, which is quite rare we can do that without prep.

    February 8, 2013 at 10:28 pm Reply
  49. BntyHunter

    You are a retarded CFC stoog.

    Raiden would never have tipped the scales vs CFC. Raiden brings 40-50 guys per fleet more than what we have now.

    In the end of tribute we used 200ish man fleets and only time CFC would show up was in 8-900 man fleets just for timers and then blue ball us for days….Sorry but 50 or even a 100 more wouldnt have done it. Also Raiden was pretty full of infighting.

    Also what Alliance are you from? You arent PL. I challenge you to name 5 Allis better than NCDOT. Go on you can do it, we are shit right?

    We didnt fail you ass hat we are still here and even more strong than Tribute.

    February 9, 2013 at 1:40 am Reply
    1. Challenge Accepted

      1. PL
      2. Rooks and kings
      3. VOC
      4. Solar
      5. Black Legion

      All top of their respective fields. NC. Falls 2nd if that high to any of them. NC. Are not the best at any one thing. They are just following in others foot steps.

      February 9, 2013 at 10:04 pm Reply
      1. BntyHunter

        Your so deluded its funny.

        We are beating SOLAR pretty badly 68%/38%, and was beating them in tribute while they had CFC support as well.

        Rooks and Kings are a totally different and much smaller group as well as VoC and you can`t even compare the two. They are great at very small action with 30 guys usually tops. I used to fly with RnK all the time, they do not want to be 00 Sec guys and it is not there niche AT ALL, you putting them here shows your ignorance.

        Black Legion is not better than us and when fully deployed vs us along with Solar Block did not do very well. There were a lot of differant variables though so it can`t be said we straight up beat them.
        BL has become a lot better than they were and gained a huge following after Elo lost his Titan. After he was ganked he has done great at being careful about SC deployment.

        If anything BL is in a dead heat with us, but not better by any means.

        PL is really the only group that might beat just us in an all out war. But as others have said PL is more shy than we are to risk anything. Also we are more active as a general player base. So it really is a toss up and IMO would change on each occasion. They do have a bigger SC fleet however, but we arent stupid and would never fight them on those terms.

        So out of your whole retarded list PL is the only one I would give you. Sorry you failed very badly….And using SOLAR is pathetic as we are beating them and have beat them in the past….Using VoC and RNK just shows you know little and using BL proves you have never flown with either of us.

        Your probably a horrible armchair general, and most likely a avid forum reader who doesn`t PVP much but reads lost of BR`s.

        February 9, 2013 at 10:55 pm Reply
        1. view point

          LOL you obviously didn't read what he said
          "All top of their respective fields"

          February 10, 2013 at 2:52 am Reply
          1. BntyHunter

            Oh I did, my question wasn`t framed like that.

            Hell with his arguments…. PL, Hydra Reloaded, Cry Havoc [was like RnK but had 80 SC`s as well] VoC and BoB`s tourney Team

            Yep they are totally better.

            Also even answering his, what does BL do better than NCDOT? What does SOLAR DO BETTER? Yeah thats what I thought.

            February 10, 2013 at 8:30 am
        2. view point

          … and try a one v. one with Solar and see how that plays out. Not Coalition vs. Coalition.

          February 10, 2013 at 2:53 am Reply
          1. Humble_miner

            The same way Solar did 1vs1 against NCdot in Geminate when NCdot fought CFC in Tribute?

            February 10, 2013 at 9:42 am
  50. BntyHunter

    You mean we will see the same in the CFC.

    Also he didnt say they had to fight….He said fight or not the same will happen.

    I`m not as mad at Solar as him. and TBH I harbor no ill will at all and am secretly hoping they survive [but Mactep dies] and I hope they reform, if SOLAR hadn`t had Mactep I think they would be kings of the north, very similar to what GSF is now and I think they would have been ahead of a huge Ruski federation probably fighting HBC.

    Also like it or not, agree or not, you have to admit it would have been much smarter for SOLAR to side with Dotbros/IRC. Right now they could be the big brother with NCDOT/BL/Nulli/RED and own a major tech deposit.
    You dont have to like NCDOT/Nulli but that is the truth.

    February 9, 2013 at 1:48 am Reply
    1. Guy

      No, they'll get spread out between the HBC, CFC and N3. I'm sure there's corps in the drone regions right now that nulli or whoever are interested in picking up.

      February 9, 2013 at 1:51 am Reply
      1. BntyHunter

        I dont think so. Most Corps from SOLAR are the only ones NCDOT or Nulli would take give or take 1 or 2 max…And they wont want to join NCDOT+Nulli because language and because anger IMO.

        February 9, 2013 at 7:06 am Reply

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