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Razor Alliance and Fatal Ascension wish to flex their PVP muscles and what better opportunity to do so than help an ally in the south? Yes that’s right , FA/RZR is deploying in the South to give SOLAR FLEET and friends a hand against the combined forces of NCDOT, Nulli Secunda, Red Alliance and the likes.

Here is the recording, hot off the presses:

Here is a quick summary:

– They go 700 peeps on their comms.
– We will be deploying south to help SOLAR FLEET against N3 (NCDOT, RED, Nulli)
– We want to start this fight.
– We’ll be using AHACS (Zealots)
– FA will be using Oracles and Caracals.
– RZR will be using Nagas, Loki and Talos fleets.
– A bit of intel about their shared comms.
– We wish to fleet 200-ish fleets.
– Mandatory Deployment
– No Supers – just regular Caps (carriers + dreads)
– They want to help SOLAR not grind sov.
– Pets being set +2.5 standing.
– Due to different languages, SOLAR fleets will be apart from RZR/FA
– Maelstroms stay at Pure Blind / Venal.
– Some chatter about logistics (fuel, jump cal skills, etc)
– Peptalk about their junior FC’s to shine.

– R

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309 Comments

  1. Guest

    might have wanted to deploy a month ago while it might actually have helped solar? im not sure what the point of this is really.
    eve news is horrible they dont even conctact and sides to check what the current situation is even.

    January 31, 2013 at 8:02 pm Reply
  2. Zero-Zero

    Thing is Eve needs wars to entertain people.
    CFC might go full scale if HBC teams up with the south.
    In which case it might be the biggest war Eve has ever seen.
    I for one hope that war comes it doesnt matter who i shoot as long as we can shoot.

    Solar might defend themselves without assistance of CFC, but if it turns out wrong the south gains to much power and it will be just another powerhouse like CFC / HBC and i think 2 elephants in 1 room is enough.
    Razor and FA will drag the whole CFC into this war, there is no way The mittani will let the south gain momentum and build up forces that can wipe us out.
    Its already a 50/50 versus HBC in an all out war with the South gaining more SOV when they would wipe out Solar CFC existance diminish greatly.

    Hate HBC / CFC / N3 / Solar all you want in the end we all need each other to produce epic scale battles that reach even the newspapers that fall on your doormat.
    I cannot wait to be part of this battle.

    January 31, 2013 at 8:47 pm Reply
  3. Unknown

    You guys are over thinking this shit way too much. It's Razor and FA going down to have some fun. I seriously doubt it will make a difference in the end result. If it does it will just be slowing things to a stalemate.

    But hopefully there will be some fun, pew pew and lols to be had. If nothing else it will give some FC's experience. Good FC's are in short supply in Eve. I know FA only had 2-3 guys that are good at large fleet stuff. (And Zagnuts is not one of them. But heaven help him, he tries at least.)

    January 31, 2013 at 9:08 pm Reply
  4. ewrwer

    Lol… anybody who listens to these guys (especially FA leader) is an idiot. Their all stuck up each others asses.

    February 1, 2013 at 12:04 am Reply
  5. wow

    please tell us more about your scripted responses mittens has written out for you

    February 1, 2013 at 3:46 pm Reply
  6. anonymous

    0 actually are you actually trying to imply that we've never fought anyone for any space? There was free space sitting right next to the space that Nulli had taken from Cascade and you expected us to just let it sit there?

    February 1, 2013 at 6:26 pm Reply
    1. Bring the Pain

      Cascade was holding their own until Nulli was bat phoned, paid or what ever the circumstance was. But when you have GF's the blob will dump on your parade. And there were plenty of good fights and the conflicts were enjoyable until that happened.

      February 1, 2013 at 8:57 pm Reply
  7. Gunny

    Goons sitting this one out?, where have we seen this before? remember the old NC lol. History repeats.

    February 2, 2013 at 6:43 am Reply
    1. Guy

      Hopefully the whole thing repeats in that case.

      February 2, 2013 at 7:04 am Reply
  8. NCdawt grunt

    TBH this deployment looks like a diversion for both N3 and HBC to move attention away from a possible conflict at the CFCs doorstep. The claim Mittens wasn't involved in such a strategic move is laughable at best.

    Anyway, we'll see how much of an impact RZR/FA will have. So far they haven't done much other than run from every possible fight with N3 and getting camped into station by Darkside, GE and other entities. RZR were total cowards in the Tribute conflict and nothing seems to have changed.

    February 2, 2013 at 8:54 am Reply
  9. Alifikduzimir

    I'd guess its RA.

    February 2, 2013 at 9:06 am Reply
    1. Vinnie

      not RA lol

      February 12, 2013 at 12:56 am Reply
  10. BntyHunter

    Dude go look at PoisenKevin`s videos on Utube.

    He has the most iconic battle for that period. It wasn`t the biggest at all but it showed what almost every win was.

    We [Dotbros] had 80 BadHacs that we used vs there Drakes [Which is the natural counter to Hacs] They had 160 Drakes and we started to slug it out.

    With 160 Drakes[ @ double the EHP] you have a HUGE advantage and really have no excuse as to a loss except the other guys simpy whooped your ass.

    So we started pounding them and took out 40 Drakes when all the sudden bam 80 Nado`s show up at 100km and start sniping us while we are fighting the remaining 120 Drakes.

    So now we are at optimal from the Nados and the Drakes are brawling with us. We keep getting excellent warp spots [NCDOT inty are some of the absolute best and the reason we win often] A hero bubble goes up catches the Nado`s and we land on them at our optimal and start cutting through them.

    All said and done, we killed 140 Drakes and 60 Nado`s and lost 6 Hacs. That was the battle that really showed CFC not to even fight us with less than 3:1, after that CFC would not undock 100 guys when we had anymore than 30. And from there it went horribly down hill and they wouldnt undock at all unless it was 5:1 or more. Also GSF stopped showing up with anymore than 40ish guys in a 400 man fleet.

    Go look at the Poisenkevin fights on Utube search "Dotbros vs GSF" and watch his videos they are simply unreal, when I watch the battles I was in I cant believe we actually pulled it off….It seems impossible.

    Also look at these stats. Now imagine we fought outnumbered badly like everyone says, and Rzr, FA and rest of CFC was trying there very hardest and look at these numbers compared to say GSF or Test who has 10k members+.

    November, 20124,862657.374,906297.1268.87%
    October, 20127,3161,445.084,639398.9478.37%
    September, 2012 8,9721,316.884,226416.1775.99%
    August, 201211,8691,570.045,216690.2469.46%

    Look at that Almost 12k Kills in august and 1570 bil DMG, to put that in perspective GSF who has 10k members vs our 1600 at the time had 14k kills and 623 bil destroyed. Meaning we hit bigger targets, and you have to realize they only had a handful active in war, others were PVPing with Test, in Hisec wardecs etc that all counts.

    So in August, we killed 7.5 ships per member, and each member killed roughly 1 bil isk.
    GSF killed 1.4 ships per member and 62 mil isk per member.

    Like I said that is also them cherry picking SC kills all over the map, where is we would be booted if we wern`t just killing CFC.

    So you say you wern`t here but go look at the numbers, we were almost 70% effec vs GSF the entire war, and that includes our 200 POS`s and other major structures we lost. Also we killed both SOLAR and CFC the last 2/3rds and that was almost 40k players.

    We were fighting SOLAR and CFC and both had become tired of the war and basically docked up every fight because they wanted to keep there victory. Our 200 man fleets simply couldn`t withstand the 600-800 man form ups at the 3rd timers and slowly they took systems.

    Anyways we stopped fighting because Nulli had fought for us in the North and we wanted to stick around and kill CFC but since they stopped fighting us unless it was station timers it was boring and we owed Nulli bigtime and we found friends in them we knew would be a very very long time. We found our soulmates :) and the truth is the wanted to kick AAA in the teeth and SOLAR. So we moved to get better fights and help our brothers.

    February 2, 2013 at 10:42 am Reply
  11. Good thng u rnt Smrt

    You realize SOLAR has always used there renter alliance of 5-6k as an army right?

    SOLAR simply throws prospect Corps from there into there main group. But one of the deals with Renters is they fight as well. I was living out there and fought for them.

    So if you want to count NC. vs SOLAR its a no brainer. Solar uses Fleet+Wing all the time and are counted as one where NCDOT doesnt.

    Also NC. nmbers has never really fluctuated, when they started up they grabbed 1600 guys and only went as high as 1850ish now. That is a very exclusive club.

    Also NC. gets 10x the applicants. Solar has a very tight group party due to ethnicity, NCDOT doesnt.

    But a general member needs a minimum of 1500 kills [now 2k] and they need 65 mil SP and have to fly all NC`s fits. Also its still voted on meaning you can get all the way there then get denied.

    Irts not even a contest as to what is harder.

    February 2, 2013 at 10:51 am Reply
  12. abun

    hey FAzor WTB balls

    February 2, 2013 at 10:46 pm Reply
  13. frgtduytrert

    desperate nulli FC

    [22:54:27] XY > i swear to god i f*****g give up
    [22:54:32] XY > i drop 100 dudes on 250
    [22:54:34] XY > and they run away
    [22:54:37] XY > i jump out of system
    [22:54:39] XY > and they undock again
    [22:54:51] XY > f****g cowards.

    February 2, 2013 at 11:33 pm Reply
    1. Nullibro

      I noticed on our intel channels that RAZOR fleets start moving away from our staging system as soon as someone mentions that a fleet is up to meet them on our ops channel. Its even worse when someone asks for a prober!!

      I have a hard time understanding these guys!! Are they really helping SOLAR?

      February 4, 2013 at 3:53 pm Reply
  14. BntyHunter

    You are confusing being big with a lot of ISK and being a solid PVP powerhouse.

    I was in BoB, in Merc Coa, Tri Etc and they got lazy when they had SOV and no real war/obj.
    I fought with AAA, RA, PL and them to do did a lot better without worrying about SOV.
    i fought against Razor, Goons and they were both Carebears at heart who wern`t PVP powerhouses at all.

    When PL had SOV they wern`t that great, people just saw them as Goon rejects. then they lose SOV and bam 3 Tourneys

    The best on your list is Tri, PL and both got better when they lost there SOV. And since have been semi Sovless and more vagabonds who dont like staying in one place.

    BoB used massive numbers but also massive SC fleets and that was from tons of money, MC was there real powerhouse. I loved being in BoB but I can admit player to player NCDOT has 5x as much skill. Corps like DICE have gotten 3x as good as they were then.

    RA is differant because they dont get the SOV that makes you cushy [Moons] they get SOV to rent. Also they were always great about losing SOV to achieve a win, that is not normal.

    Once more Rzr/Goons should not be listed at all. Rzr is better than Goons but still that isn`t saying much both rellied heavily on Numbers and Tech.

    I`ll revise my statement a little bit and say that groups that relly heavily upon SOV and let SOV become there entire measure of success are the ones who become very weak.

    SOV killed BoB and made them complacent and they thought they were rich enough to kill anyone, there entire reign was fighting almost every season for that SOV they had. In the end they turned carebear. Hell they had Anzac alliance.

    The best guys in Eve were groups who didnt mind risking it and losing it, and not collapsing. It is so easy to kill an enemy who folds up there tent after they lose there system, but groups like Nulli/NCDOT/PL/BL are groups who can lose all of it and come right back and punch you in the mouth.

    I dont see most your list as being awesome PVPers just rich with great numbers or ALli`s who shed there lust for SOV.

    SOV in game is the root of all evil, the Sov isnt evil but the lust for it makes greedy carebears, who fit expensive ships and dont use them.

    February 2, 2013 at 11:35 pm Reply
  15. blaa blaa

    FKING BORING IN Great Wildlands – NOONE TO KILL also IN catch curse providence they all hide from a 20 man fleet

    February 8, 2013 at 9:24 pm Reply
    1. lolololol

      Yea its not like Init. is farming you guys in e02

      February 17, 2013 at 2:30 pm Reply
  16. Big Blue Donut Land

    The most surprising detail I got from this was Solar is now blue with CFC?

    Is every major space holding alliance in nullsec now NIP'd or NAP'd….
    Well I guess CCP no longer need to tweak any sov mechanics. Since no-one really has to fight much over sov anymore.

    February 18, 2013 at 2:39 am Reply

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