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After Razor Alliance’s “non-invasion” of Cobalt Edge culminated in a deal between them and Intrepid Crossing [IRC], Razor has finally taken control of the 30 systems in the region north of CUT-0V. IRC was promised easiness of evacuation, with the “non-invaders” dropping camps and allowing fleeing IRC members to leave peacefully:

My Fellow Goats,

I bring you glad tidings of great joy!

Our non-invasion has come to a rather surprising conclusion:

Intrepid Crossing is transferring Sov north of CUT to Razor over the next 72 hours.

IRC, in a final action, have chosen to peacefully hand over Sov, infrastructure and everything that goes with it.

As of now, pull all PvP fleets, camping, etc out of IRC space Immediately!

This is a good-faith move on our part to make the transfer as painless as possible for them.

This is a manditory order, no exceptions! Anyone continuing pvp action in IRC-Owned Cobalt Edge will be dealt with swiftly.

Thanks,
Tib

Probably trying to avoid stretching too thin, or because of their intention of keeping Cobalt Edge as prime roaming grounds (or just thanks to competent diplomatic work from the receiving part), the systems south of CUT-0V were to be handed over to R O G U E [ROGUE], one of IRC’s partners, who effectively started taking 32 systems last Sunday.

However, Sunday was also marked as the day SOLAR FLEET [SOLAR] entered the region again, and conquered 6 systems in the G3-MU3 constellation.

According to reports, Solar fleets came into scene and destroyed the Territorial Claim Units as they were being onlined, taking the systems for themselves.

Solar Fleet’s intentions are unclear, though. It is to be confirmed whether this was an opportunistic takeover or the beginning of a serious campaign in order to claim more systems in the part of Cobalt Edge now controlled by R O G U E.

-Darius

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78 Comments

  1. solar pet

    the solar pets have 2 sayings.
    1) do not betray your word to solar and it won't betray us.
    2) if u do betray, expect them to remember it for all eternity

    January 22, 2013 at 10:50 am Reply
    1. Whee

      yeah, prime example of a master / pet relationship

      January 22, 2013 at 11:08 am Reply
      1. poastin toaster

        you can say the same thing about GSF or TEST.

        master / pet

        January 22, 2013 at 12:19 pm Reply
      2. Point of View

        hmm thats interesting being your status with CFC or HBC is decided by your particpation/help whatever you want to call it, Leaders say jump and you better jump and ask why your jumping after your in the air, LOL. Same Diff Bro.

        January 22, 2013 at 5:27 pm Reply
    2. derp

      You dont talk back to ….

      wait they died. nv, carry on.

      January 22, 2013 at 2:44 pm Reply
  2. eve pilot

    so solar turns on its friends typical oppertunistic russian fashion you list of friends and allies grow ever thin solar

    January 22, 2013 at 10:52 am Reply
    1. Get Out

      If you read the same shit it looks like IRC turned on SOLAR by giving RAZOR systems, if IRC can't hold their shit then SOLAR is gunna have to try and hold it for them.

      January 22, 2013 at 11:19 am Reply
      1. outsider

        Well to follow your logic: SOLAR backstabbed IRC in not helping defend their shit like good masters / friends would have done in the first place so your argument of IRC backstabbing solar in giving away lost systems is invalid. IRC was forced to leave the scene as peaceful and quick as possible to keep the few members they have left…

        January 22, 2013 at 12:31 pm Reply
        1. BOOOM

          LIKE SOLAR HELPED IRC

          January 22, 2013 at 12:39 pm Reply
        2. rzrs a joke

          Rzr wasnt taking more space then the 5 or so original systems they toook… IRC just collapsed and feel apart and why should solar commit there small list of allies to fight for IRC against the whole cfc… cause we all know rzr would call for help everytime there was a decently fair fight….

          cfc and hbc know nothing but numbers….

          January 22, 2013 at 4:44 pm Reply
          1. outsider

            yes, this is true and i agree with you there.
            but i wonder if solar has ever helped anyone of their allys under a serious treat? dont think so

            January 22, 2013 at 4:51 pm
          2. PNG Guy

            LoL, Solar helps those that have shown promise and help them reguarly… IRC was already dead, it was an alliance full of carebears, still is, and hasn't helped Solar since the DR Civil War…

            Let the useless die and the useful live…

            January 22, 2013 at 11:03 pm
        3. Bored at Work

          IRC is bleeding like a stuck pig. I would not count on them keeping much of anything since the HC is still disfunctional. Solar might as well take the systems.

          January 23, 2013 at 12:12 am Reply
  3. bad foresight

    ROGUE was blue with Solar right up until Solar backstabbed them. Razor is red to both. I'm not really sure why Solar would alienate an ally who was receiving free systems from a hostile alliance (Razor). If Solar was fine with IRC holding those systems, they should be fine with ROGUE (who is a bit more competent) holding those systems. It's really just a dick move on Solar's part.

    January 22, 2013 at 11:40 am Reply
    1. NullSecHoBo

      ROGUE is an untested entity and honestly they will have to take whatever RZR and SOLAR afford them to.

      What I wonder is if RZR and SOLAR actually have an understanding over this CE fumigation business.

      January 22, 2013 at 1:43 pm Reply
    2. Glenn

      “If Solar was fine with IRC holding those systems, they should be fine with ROGUE (who is a bit more competent) holding those systems”

      That remains to be seen, IRC held it independently for years, built it up from a few stations to a high station density, defended it in ‘stacks on’ situations a few times.

      Maybe Rogue can do that too, but IRC has a lot to be proud of, stuff that other alliances dont even understand hte importance of.

      January 22, 2013 at 4:00 pm Reply
    3. Ratter

      Solar need to make up botting systems for the loss of insmother and cache.

      January 23, 2013 at 8:10 am Reply
  4. Rellin Kajer

    I guess Solar has to make up for the space N3 is taking from them.

    January 22, 2013 at 12:17 pm Reply
    1. Ganicus

      Need space to bot, even it seems if it had to be taken from blues, GJ solar ohh merriest of backstabbing men…

      January 22, 2013 at 4:58 pm Reply
      1. Kiyohime Ronuken

        bots are so much less common than you guys think… it's kinda funny.
        oh and no one else bots… no. not at all…

        January 23, 2013 at 9:26 am Reply
  5. Ex IRC

    This whole IRC thing was like watching a car crash in slow motion. Shit's going to get bad and you can't look away.

    Now IRC HC pays the price for their lack of vision. Complete failure of diplomacy and misplaced trust. Wow.

    Respect to Tessa Yor, the only HC that did her best to keep things running and being transparent with the alliance. As for the rest, I look forward to flying back to CE and Oasa and help EVE murder every mother fucking last one you!

    January 22, 2013 at 12:38 pm Reply
    1. NullSecHoBo

      IRC is pretty much out of CE now, and sulking in Oasa.

      January 22, 2013 at 1:42 pm Reply
      1. Bored at Work

        You meaning rotting in Oasa. Anyone with a heavy industry focus that could salvage the situation has left for the most part.

        January 23, 2013 at 12:20 am Reply
    2. FailCascade

      Tessa was also the one who sparked the beginning of the failcascade when she ordered AHACs to fight on a station undock VS an alpha fleet. You can imagine how well that went.

      January 22, 2013 at 5:08 pm Reply
      1. Nulli FC once IRC FC

        Actually as the FC who led that defence that was Millsy who forced that. I was pleading in chat to move to the gate. In the end the result was the same and it was the last straw for my corp before we started talks with nulli. At least on the gate we could have done much better before we were eventually overwhelmed.

        January 22, 2013 at 5:47 pm Reply
      2. MrSmith

        I highly doubt Tessa ordered the FCs to do anything. Tessa never gets involved in military affairs.

        January 23, 2013 at 10:24 pm Reply
  6. DoopDeDooh

    who gives a shit… SOLAR is going to be run over by the HBC any day now.

    January 22, 2013 at 1:31 pm Reply
    1. nub

      any day? how about another 3 months, because it took you that much time to take just one region.

      January 22, 2013 at 11:05 pm Reply
  7. exIRC

    Solar was the worst ally to have, they should have dropped their issues with NC. and helped turn the tide in the tribute war. Its because of this (IRC helping NC.) that they decided to screw us over and not help, and maybe NC. wouldnt be helping claim their space currently. Screw solar, let them burn

    January 22, 2013 at 3:31 pm Reply
    1. BntyHunter

      Yep you are 100% right.

      Right now SOLAR would be the boss of most of DEKco as we would have won with them, they would own 200 moons and we would all be rich.

      Instead they are getting there shit pushed in from us in the south and decide to attack a ally who was guarding there rear for 5+years who always held in valiant battles vs better opponents

      Now SOLAR uses this to attack, not just let someone take IRC but attack themselves…Lol SOLAR is now gonna get assrammed. And I cant wait for when CFC attacks them and lets Xdeath take there space, I will laugh at how far SOLAR fell.

      Could have been kings but instead chose jesters.

      January 22, 2013 at 4:29 pm Reply
      1. SirBacon

        They are kings, they beat an entire russian blob + PL in drone lands.

        "
        Instead they are getting there shit pushed in from us in the south and decide to attack a ally who was guarding there rear for 5+years who always held in valiant battles vs better opponents "

        You are retarded, IRC is dead, they lost 4k members in only 3 weeks. All the pvp corps have left a year ago. It;s a shell of what it once was.

        January 23, 2013 at 7:44 am Reply
        1. MrSmith

          "They are kings, they beat an entire russian blob + PL in drone lands. "

          There is a difference between Beating the entire Russian blob + PL, and stalling PL till their contract is up and beating XiX in the head with a hammer.

          January 23, 2013 at 10:21 pm Reply
    2. Ganicus

      Unfortunately Mactep is equal to mittens when it come to self serving and greedy. Solar will only do what Benifits solar. If your a pet of there's remember that and always be weary of them. They will throw you under the bus, back stab you when it Benifits ten and expect you to help them when it's needed. That you could argue could all be forgiven only if solar forgave wrongs that have been dealt to them in the past for the greater goods of be as a community, but evidently them themselves. Solars decisions over last several months have been nothing more than opportunist, wich unfortunately in solars case will never amount to success in long run, but very brief successes in the short run. Mactep is as had been said too many times before a stubborn fool and his player base suffers for it!

      January 22, 2013 at 4:41 pm Reply
    3. Point of View

      The thing is you decided to help NC dot, your choice lead to this, just as other choices have put other things in motion. IRC was 4000 strong what a bit over 2 maybe 3 mnths ago? You guys cant defend on your own?

      January 22, 2013 at 5:24 pm Reply
      1. clever

        Yeah what the hell, pretty much any alliance facing a 30k coalition should be able to beat them, but a 4k alliance shouldn't have any problem all.

        January 22, 2013 at 6:14 pm Reply
      2. BntyHunter

        They helped NCDOT until SOLAr got involved. How is that backstabbing? How is that siding against SOLAR?

        It was just the reason you guys needed to completely bail on them. In reality just man up and say you were tired of helping them and wanted to get new pets, or you were scared of CFC and gave them CE to get Xdeath off your back.

        January 22, 2013 at 6:48 pm Reply
        1. Solar Pet=Bet Pet

          Why are u so butt hurt over the past? lol

          youtube downloader

          January 22, 2013 at 7:18 pm Reply
          1. BntyHunter

            Im not. I dont get butthurt over this game, I just speak the truth. Truth is SOLAR wanted to get rid of IRC so they used them helping NCDOT.

            Thats fine this is Eve a grown ups game about Backstabs,Weird Alli`s and massive wars, but to say it was for a phony reason is BS.

            January 23, 2013 at 12:43 am
  8. Rogue Grunt

    The problem is that Rogue doesnt have capitals to fight with, there are only 4 titans in the entire alliance at last count…

    January 22, 2013 at 3:40 pm Reply
    1. solar wins

      no one cares about your shit alliance that just jumps on bandwagons for free space…. lol no sov holders today deserve it…

      January 22, 2013 at 4:41 pm Reply
  9. Solar pet

    is it me or do ppl here have a real short memory?

    NC. took geminate from Solar and therby pissing off Solar, some time later Solar decides to take the space back from NC. so they start attacking from the south. a month later the goons decide they also want there space from nc. back so they attack from the north. and suddenly Solar is blamed to be allied with the goons so they are evil. IRC as Solar pet decides to join NC. fight against the goons and not help solar against NC. therby not being a good pet getting in the bad light of Solar who ofc are not gonne help IRC in return when they get attacked.

    ofc IRC space gets attacked now and Solar is being blamed for not being good masters by defending IRC? and its bad of them to take the space wich is in there eyes theres anyway since they only let IRC live there?

    some ppl think rly strange…

    January 22, 2013 at 4:05 pm Reply
    1. BntyHunter

      IRC didnt help NCDOT vs SOLAR and if SOLAR wanted any credability would help IRC out right now, instead we are whipping there ass so hard they are taking out what they consider to be soft targets…..SOLAR really has fallen far.

      Also SOLAR didnt just decide to attack for geminate, they did it at the same time CFC did and sided with them because they thought they needed CFC to win and hoped that later CFC would help them out and side with them….Totally wrong. All they did was show people they wern`t the SOLAR of old who could beat us 4k members of DOTBROS even with BL`s help. Also by hiring BL they looked triple weak, first they needed CFC the biggest blob ingame when they already outnumbered us 3:1, second they chose to act like IRC backstabbed them so they wouldnt have to fight Rzr, they conviniently acted like IRC betrayed them when in reality they didnt or they would have attacked SOLAR with us and won, last they hired Mercs while already outnumbering us….They are weak and now people see it and are going to hit them, first us then IRC, then CFC/Rzr, you killed yourselves.

      If you honestly were so butthurt that you made horrible choices and doomed your alliance and cant accept they were the wrong choices you deserve to go under IMO. Before these last few wars with SOLAR we never tried to map you guys, never tried to bust your major SOV and our only main fights were because we liked fighting with you as you weren`t cowards like CFC, but now you are worse attacking IRC when you can is pussy shit.

      January 22, 2013 at 4:25 pm Reply
      1. u always cry

        your an idiot bntyhunter… quit blaming solar for nc. losing tribute and shit they dont need to fucking help you win just because you cant do it alone and will never stop crying about it… move on Solar chose to reclaim the space u took form them previously dont get butthurt over solar when they really didnt do anything wrong

        January 22, 2013 at 4:39 pm Reply
        1. BntyHunter

          Im not crying you moron. It`s what happend.

          Now they are getting there reward for there choice. SOLAR didnt choose to reclaim anything LOL….Evoke took Geminate then sold it to Goons you idiot.

          Solar didnt get shit, they fought us yes and got nothing for it but Goonies as neighbors.

          It`s not crying to say you are stupid. Im glad now SOLAR didnt help, because now we are skull F*cking them taking there shit, and now we have a better group to go up against GSF with. SOLAR was never good allies to anyone but RED+Death, Im glad we get to fight with AAA guys who joined and guys from PL etc professional soldiers rather than part time militia men.

          January 22, 2013 at 7:00 pm Reply
          1. Guy

            "Evoke took Geminate then sold it to Goons you idiot. "

            You mean Vale? Also stop writing posts, get out there and get this war started. You know you can.

            January 22, 2013 at 7:01 pm
          2. BntyHunter

            No I mean parts of Gem. We never took huge amounts of SOLAR space in Vale. Vale was never theres, Evoke took moons in Gem and then sold them and others to GSF.

            Remeber all this happend because Evoke was fighting SOLAR in Gem. So we started helping them, and then SOLAR came to respond. Either way SOLAR is stupid to let a SOV hungry beast like CFC right next door….>What did they think was going to happen when they wanted to give new pets space? They were gonna ask Solar nicely for space? Lol

            I am in a war, killing SOLAR, how about you get it started? Then I can move my shit and fight.

            January 22, 2013 at 7:06 pm
          3. Guy

            Goons never got those moons they were evokes, then solar and brick picked them up, and now PL has them.

            But anyway you post way too much stuff trying to justify everything ncdot does. Just go and do things and stop talking about it.

            January 22, 2013 at 7:10 pm
          4. BntyHunter

            I do plenty. I also dont justify everything NCDOT does at all. I have disagreed with leadership plenty and have said it. But you pro-CFC blobbing blind types take it that way everytime.

            I disagreed with the way BL was handled and have said it. I disagreed with how we didnt offer Evoke a partnership right as they were selling moons, We lost 500 solid fighters because of that IMO. Im pissed we didnt grab more AAA guys and let some truly talented fighters go to CFC. I disagree with a lot of decisions and our previous PR in general before we learned our lesson with BL, but I cant sit here ad have guys who only read the news, who know very little of what actually happens in 00 like you say things that aren`t true.

            Sorry but if im bent towards NCDOT you are totally blinded and think all small/PVP Alli`s are snobs just because we dont recruit by the truckload…We aren`t dicks because we are selective, we just have played the game long enough to know guys with different goals dont make it long no matter how hard they try, so we chose guys who are like minded and similar in exp/skill.

            January 23, 2013 at 12:39 am
      2. Solar pet

        i never said IRC helped against SOLAR, but they did help NC. against the goons. becouze of that IRC stopped helping SOLAR against NC.

        also SOLAR was attacking NC. about a month be4 the goons came to play. though i have to say taking systems went alot more easy when the goons started in the north.

        and being butthurrt? if we go out we go out with lots of fireworks, just the way i like it

        January 22, 2013 at 5:01 pm Reply
        1. BntyHunter

          "i never said IRC helped against SOLAR, but they did help NC. against the goons"

          So you admit, the reason you guys were pissed was they fought Goons.

          Pet what alliance are you in? I want to know if you can really say "We" or if you are a pet of pets.

          I dont get how, you guys cant see that THEY BACKED OUT OF THE WAR AS SOON AS YOU GUYS ENTERED!
          Goons has always been there biggest enemy, and by not letting them attack Goons with us YOU were the ones ruining there defense.

          You talk about attacking NCDOT while Goons were because it was basically defense because we would fight you eventually, and we had only fought you a few times and never were interested in really kicking you out, now imagine IRC`s side.

          IRC was attacked by GSF+Rzr there entire existence, and they wern`t there for fights or a few moons like we were, when our contract was up we left, we could have kept fighting with RA+Xdeath and rolled you but we didnt. Goons on the other hand never would have given them a chance, they wanted SOV not fights, so when IRC chose to fight them off and not let Goons become Neighbors you guys like idiots chose to help Goons a entity powerful enough to Map you and IRC, they were the only smart ones, they just had you guys [Looks like Cowards] as friends.

          January 22, 2013 at 6:56 pm Reply
    2. Ganicus

      Don't bother starting this crap up again solar pet, your argument as has been proven in numerous articles with this same line of dog turd as been dispelled and proved completely wrong. Links of proof have been stated. Needless to prove yet again that you are wrong, have a look at previous articles, don't waste our time again.
      Dotbros went to war against cfc, did an amazing job. A month plus of solar not setting foot in geminate, and as soon as dotbros are deep in a war, solar being opportunists show up again to vulture tech start a second front.Ncdot allow them to take what they took from solar before when they were having gfs. But then solar being greedy tried taking more & got hammered against dotbros while working with cfc on the battlefield numerous times and still losing. There's links as I said on other articles proving this! Solar wouldn't be in the position there in now if they hadn't made bad decisions over the last several months. Would likely have a lot more space and wealth as well as fun than they having now lol. Daft buggers!

      January 22, 2013 at 4:54 pm Reply
    3. anonymous

      Let me fix your timeline. 1: Russian civil war beings where Pl/Nc. get paid to help xdeath against Solar. We take over most of Geminate and it's moons. When we leave the war xdeath promptly dies. 2: a couple months later Solar decides to move on Geminate and drops on our carrier fleet on our pos unexpectedly resulting in a spectacular loss of our carriers so we go to war with them and kick them out of Geminate with the backing of Evoke. At this point Solar retreats away from the front and our boredom meant that we decided to go to war with Goonswarm. 3: Solar comes back since we are no longer there and takes back what they consider theirs. 4: Having lost our space we invade you in the south.

      IRC was your ally and you threw them under the bus. Can you blame them for wanting to fight against the CFC? They never fought against you guys but you use that as the excuse to let them burn. You attempted to remove Gypsy Band which was arguably your most powerful ally and now your empire is burning because of your actions.

      January 22, 2013 at 8:05 pm Reply
  10. LGND

    Why is this news?

    January 22, 2013 at 7:13 pm Reply
  11. manfromnantucket

    Solar is running from N3 and everyone knows it

    January 22, 2013 at 7:27 pm Reply
    1. nc.

      Tbh after fighting solar for as long as i have now, i can say they are probably the best single alliance in game. The numbers they have combined with the discipline they have makes them fucking nasty. A lot of respect. Still screw them tho.

      January 22, 2013 at 8:02 pm Reply
      1. BntyHunter

        I agree. There leadership is horrible but the avg Solar Pilot is top notch, I have huge respect for them. i really want to see there talent go to a group like DoD or some other entity where they can do what they want and not be slaves, those guys deserve more.

        January 23, 2013 at 12:41 am Reply
  12. Another Former NC

    What to talk about IRC?
    It was a great alliance, although many speak a lot of things, they had something else.

    – In war Solar x XDeath, IRC weighed the balance until PL was hired, Solar received much help,-A-, Gypsy Bands, but PL and NCDoth was hired, and nobody helped when PL and NCDot invading IRC space, anchoring sov blockade on E-BYOS with titans, carriers etc … I remember, i count 5 or 6 SOLAR in system.

    IRC had no chance against PL + NCDot + XDeath on one side, Razor + Goons on the other hand, I remember like it was today.

    Eve is like that, but do what? I realy sorry by IRC cascade, bad allies as solar is only one of causes, yet I do not regret one bit having gone through IRC, and if one day I can help them in some way, for sure I will.

    January 22, 2013 at 9:40 pm Reply
    1. NullSecHoBo

      True – IRC was the orphan no one wanted and everyone just tolerated. All this SOLAR coulda done this, NC. shoulda done that debate in the comments is amusing. Neither did anything because they, like the rest of Eve, just did not care for IRC. End of story. No point in hyper analyzing it.

      January 22, 2013 at 10:51 pm Reply
  13. Omen Nihilo

    I find this slightly funny…

    Taking space without a fight. I understand that sov is a grind… but… no fights is a good thing?

    😛

    January 22, 2013 at 11:54 pm Reply
  14. nub highsec dude

    hirr = refugee…. i can't believe how honour is so low in some corps that it accepts such description just for the sake of giving up and "pushing the easy / no challange" button

    January 23, 2013 at 12:11 am Reply
  15. EX IRC- years ago

    IRC DID NOT DIE because of Solar's support or lack there of; they died because of HC leadership (Oldma, Takion, Wiseoak, Axe, etc). If it were not run by fools, then you might have something to say, but IRC HC ran the alliance into the ground and pumped their wallets up along the way. It was never about the IRC, it was about the select 4-5 fools in HC profiteering off the peons of IRC. Let them die and never come back, we are all better off not drinking the damn IRC kool-aid.

    January 23, 2013 at 12:25 am Reply
    1. I just do not know

      So very true!

      January 23, 2013 at 2:11 am Reply
  16. KeLLaX

    I call BULLSHIT.

    SOLAR got payback,

    In the War “Solar vs. xXDeathXx” and friends, IRC was tasked with taking Oasa and keeping SOLAR's rear area secure while RIADEN and WN are off fighting Goons.

    PL got hired by xXDEATHXx because IRC was rolling Oasa with Element 27 and crew. PL had to get aggressive and started dropping SBU's in E-BY and told IRC if they didn’t stop attacking Oasa they would claim Cobalt Edge. Effectively causing IRC to roll over leaving SOLAR to fight on its own. Everyone knows what happened, SOLAR kicked some ass.

    During all of this NC. who was supposed to be IRC "BFF" decided to jump on PL's skirt and assisted in bashing IRC, and like a battered women IRC still blues them to this day. Now you see why SOLAR dislikes NC. And why IRC had it coming. Next time IRC when you say you’re going to do something, then do it.

    As for R O G U E I don’t think they can field more then 30 PvP pilots at any given time. It should be interesting to see what happens when someone wants to take their space.

    January 23, 2013 at 1:22 am Reply
  17. Guy from Cache

    Please remember who gave Cobalt Edge to IRC. Please remember who helped IRC many times with issues with their neighboors and pleeease remember that for the whole history of IRC they couldn't do anything but the shit. And how fast they fail cascaded.

    January 23, 2013 at 1:35 am Reply
    1. ENJOYING HIGHSEC?

      Please remember that if we wanted, we could have easily taken all of CE and probably Oasa too. But nobody wants your shit space except for botting/renting them out to shit alliances.

      I still think that we should've forced ROGUE to pay us for their space.

      January 23, 2013 at 9:13 am Reply
  18. I just do not know

    IRC was living on past glory so to speak at the leadrship level, the leadership which was in the main AWECO was just not active enough and the few that were such as Takhion were just not up to it, and because they were making so much ISK out of it they just could not let go, so the alliance rotted from inside. However there was also an attempt to turn the alliance into a more professional less kitchen sink type fleet approach, but this was badly handled and upset people who were keen to turn up but could not fly the new doctrines.

    January 23, 2013 at 2:20 am Reply
  19. Kiyohime Ronuken

    Uh – yeah… this isn't anything like what it looks tbh. All I can say is one does not simply TAKE SOV in space Solar calls dibs on. Not unless you're willing to be reset, which I doubt has happened and I doubt will happen.

    January 23, 2013 at 9:26 am Reply
  20. kenisk

    IRC was a good alliance as far as I was concerned. I am sure they had their share of wrong decisions. But in all the time I have been playing (6ys +) , I have seen Solar screw every coalition they had with anyone. Solar does not deserve any trust in my book. They have back stabbed almost every alliance they have touched. They take space and do nothing with it. It started in the drone regions, and continues now.

    I wouldn't put it past them to be heavily involved in the background with Test/PL/Goons/and Razor… Their pockets run deep. And their hands have never been clean by any means.

    If solar is dealt a blow in the near future, then it will just be charma… IRC was always fun to fly with, and true gamers. I hope they regain their lost glory, and show eve what being a fair gamer means.

    January 23, 2013 at 10:46 am Reply
  21. ex IRC member

    @PNG Guy

    "carebears" remember it was IRC that gave you solar pets "Kalevala Expanse" after being the strongest force in the group to take it from "Soldiers Of New Eve" to the point that IRC still has the station in B3ZU-H and PNG is holding what 5 systems in that region.
    Thanks for all the help you gave us.

    January 23, 2013 at 11:50 am Reply
    1. bad poster

      I'm pretty sure it was SOLAR supercap fleet that took Kalevala from SONE while IRC/ED/PNG were welping their 300 man drake fleets to SONE's 60 man tengu fleets. I hope you had fun reinforcing stations with battlecruisers.

      January 23, 2013 at 8:02 pm Reply
      1. Nulli FC

        No

        January 24, 2013 at 6:56 am Reply
    2. Another PNG Guy

      dude thats the biggest bullshit i heard sofar. PNG was helping solar against NC. when we were send back to help take over kalevala. not that our help made a diff couz we were still not winning enough hence Solar came and incapped half of the systems in kalevala in one night.

      January 25, 2013 at 11:56 pm Reply
  22. heinrich1

    report REAL news, not crappy propaganda, this is like the german invasion of russia, everyone with a sound mind KNEW the germans where winning, the REST of cobalt edge is taken by razor, report that NC scrubs

    January 23, 2013 at 11:27 pm Reply
    1. Darius

      One: the taking of Cobalt Edge north of CUP by RAZOR was the first thing reported.
      Two: DOTLAN sov map of Cobalt Edge was linked for your pleasure.
      Three: The only propaganda reported was RAZOR's, because it's great.
      Four: I have zero affiliation or interest on NC. other than the news they might generate. Riverini is NC., I couldn't care less about their welfare or public image.
      Five: Stop babbling incoherencies, please.

      January 24, 2013 at 3:50 am Reply
  23. Unknown

    No one actually owns CE on purpose. Shittiest space in all of 0.0. Razor just accidentally took it. I'd be surprised if they don't make a deal to give it away. LOL

    January 25, 2013 at 4:49 pm Reply
  24. Blood Thorn

    As a former longtime member of IRC, I can 100% guarantee you that the leadership of IRC never *lined their pockets*. The alliance was ran with income heavily influenced with the sale of supers to other friendly alliances as well as income from high sec. There was no valuable moon goo for income, no inventory of T2 BPOs to live on (except 2, one of which I owned which was damn near worthless). Damn little renter income. In short, the only money came from the cut the alliance took in refining ore and alloys.

    The sad fact about Eve (which is one of the reasons I no longer play) is that it is no longer possible to be an independent alliance. If you are not one of the old, large, rich alliances then you will spend your days in Eve ass kissing the big boys' egos. Occasionally those egos get out of control, and all the work and effort put into trying to play the game goes comes to ruin. The entire RA/xDeath/Solar infighting is all because of egos constantly seeking to get back at each other using proxies. As a player I liked fighting goons because it was fun, but at the end of the day I respected their leadership a hell of a lot more than I did our 'close allies'.

    When IRC first moved to the drone regions, we were given the task of 'protecting' the goons flanks while they continued their fight against BoB through the area leadership of xDeath. When the war was over, xDeath's wanted to get back at RA for some perceived wrong, and convinced IRC to attack RA with promises that were quickly betrayed. It didn't matter if IRC or RA was successful, either way xDeath stood to gain. For IRC, not attacking RA would mean an alienation of xDeath. Everything that happened in CE was just a replay with different players.

    Ultimately you cannot even fault the CEOs of these large alliances for this type of politics. These massive conglomeration of players exists because the structure of the game makes it the only way possible to win. The sad truth is that EvE Online has run its course and it's best days are behind it.

    Even worse for us players is that there is nothing on the game market to take its place. If Eve started a second server and removed the ability to create stations in 0.0, I bet there would be a huge influx of former players rolling new characters on it.

    I certainly would. As for the leadership of IRC, thank you for allowing me to fly with you guys (and Tessa of course!). I had fun and have nothing but respect for all of you.

    January 31, 2013 at 9:54 pm Reply
    1. justin

      Bullshit I was there. We had to give IRC money to even LIVE in the systems. IRC leadership made out like a bandit. That is a fact.

      February 7, 2013 at 9:51 pm Reply
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