Blackwater Usa Inc. [BUSA], top ranked PvP corp and member of Against All Authorities for almost two years now, is switching sides and apparently about to join Pandemic Legion.

Here is the mail MukkBarovian sent to the whole alliance. Respect is clearly shown, but the possibility of greener pastures and the lack of diplomacy are mentioned as reasons for this outcome:

Night Watch 12/28
From: MukkBarovian
Sent: 2012.12.28 23:38
To: Against ALL Authorities,

MukkBarovian: Friday Night, Dec 28
Night Watch

I have been fighting my internet company for the last several days. I haven’t been able to be on to do damage control. The best I can do is write this, but I will not do the damage control you might be hoping for. I apologize.

Yesterday a request came in for me to overrule Theng. His discontent was clearly evident. I was asked to take power to prevent him from taking the actions that would lead to BUSA leaving -A-. I refused. In all honesty I have the power. My first instinct is to avoid taking risks. By myself I would probably not take such radical actions as leaving -A- because of the danger of failure. If things go badly for one reason or another because you were proactive you must take responsibility. If the boat sinks while you sit doing nothing you at least can say, “It wasn’t my fault.” That attitude does not make for leadership, so Theng’s plan has my approval.

Theng is making the decision and has done very well so far. I do not believe Theng is leading us into a bad place. We are going off to fly with a successful group of pilots with a sterling reputation. BUSA is joining PL.

I will not point fingers and try to blame someone else for this. I will not breach security to create forum porn for the masses reposting things. I will end my stay in -A- with a nerdy analogy.

-A- are not cowards. The call of coward was simply levied by enemies who found they could not easily harm -A- in battle. Disregard it. Some time ago, Ashemi Darkhold from hirr made the insightful observation that -A- are like Klingons. They fight enthusiastically. The alliance would not be near the top of EVE Kill if it was otherwise. In combat they are skilled and they continue to fight in increasingly hostile environments.

The ground state of a Klingon is flying a small ratty broken down ship fighting those without the same warrior ethic and skill. There is nothing impressive about the ships the Klingons fly after they uncloak and join battle. They rarely have overwhelming numbers or serious firepower on their side. They do not have a capital ship fleet. They still do very well, because they commit everything to the fight. The worst that happens to them is death in battle when they pick a fight with a strong battle ready opponent. Even then they often give that opponent a serious run for their money. When the Enterpise would get destroyed, It was at the hands of the Klingons.
This is all admirable. Unfortunately -A- also shares the negative aspects of the Klingons. They are easy to anger and lack diplomacy or tact. Pain is a rite of passage. Soft emotions don’t figure in. The terrible Klingon reputation is there and few people find the stomach to be their allies.

BUSA is leaving -A- because we are tired of the Klingon culture. We have come to demand more in conduct than a Klingon is comfortable with. I personally wish -A- well. We will not turn around and snipe stragglers on the undock. We will not breach security or run off with assets. I respect Herc and regret that I will not be working with him in the future. For the most part I care about the well being of the -A- membership. Hopefully the CEOs and FCs lead them on to green pastures. I take responsibility for the consequences of withdrawing support from -A-. If green pastures prove evasive because I am necessary to acquire them then I apologize.

It seems someone has doctored the MVN MS Paint thing in response to the new situation.
God, I wish my stay in -A- had left me that buffed. On the other hand I don’t remember dildos being involved at any point in the process.

Richter also had a statement to make regarding our changing position:
“Ever since I read someone mention BUSA was going to join PL in jabber yesterday, I’ve had the most rancid case of bad gas of all time. Like, I cannot stop farting and eschewing the most grotesque smell from my ass.

Is this some sort of coincidence, or is there a conspiracy at play here?”
Maybe somebody will eventually be able to help you Richter.

-Good luck.

Meanwhile, Makalu Zarya (after being in a stew over this for a few hours) has replied the following:

From: Makalu Zarya
Sent: 2012.12.29 07:35
To: Against ALL Authorities,

I read Mukk’s mail about oh…6 hours ago…in that time i mulled over what to write in response, and whether I wanna be nice about it or not.

The end result is…traitors don’t deserve nice, and for all internsive purposes I consider this treason at the highest level. Leaving the alliance…yea that’s cool…going to PL…that makes you no better than Lee Chanka whom you smacked about it not a week ago. But hey back then PL was a terrible alliance, and now they are your best friends.

People who want to remain with the alliance will be more than welcome by the rest of us, as I’m more than sure that many of you don’t want to be flipping sides, As for those who have set their minds on leaving…I’m sorry but the only thing I can tell you:

…and don’t let it hit you on the way out.


With sovereignty over a grand total of four systems, it remains to be seen how the loss of BUSA will impact -A-…or if joining the HBC will perhaps affect BUSA’s numbers, should their pilots decide Makalu’s offer to stay is more attractive than flipping sides.

– Darius

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  1. Doc Snider

    I hate AAA. May they die quickly. But every corp, who moves AAA to PL is just a Pariah for me. You cant fight vs PL for years and then just switch with a straight face. It is not possible.

    December 30, 2012 at 6:16 pm Reply
    1. -PL-

      Oh yeah, you can. They just did it…

      December 31, 2012 at 5:22 pm Reply
    2. AAA grunt

      cause they are sellouts

      January 1, 2013 at 3:54 am Reply
      1. tain

        Customary 'u mad bro?' reply to you…

        January 1, 2013 at 11:42 am Reply
  2. Not blue to you

    I like how the all of the HBC that were shiting on everything -A- now need to look up to the same pilots as part of daddy PL.

    December 30, 2012 at 6:21 pm Reply
    1. Laka Laka Laka

      It's called propaganda, if you're that dull to not realize what their propaganda-forum-war has been about over the past 6 months, you should really just stop with the subject

      December 31, 2012 at 12:41 am Reply
      1. Unknown

        HBC learned from the best. It seemed to work very well in the North. Seems it translated to the South just fine.

        December 31, 2012 at 3:49 pm Reply
    2. jelly

      Most of the propaganda wasn't aimed at the members. It was aimed at the leadership. DETAILS MAN, DETAILS.

      December 31, 2012 at 3:54 pm Reply
      1. Somalian Skeleton

        "Most of the propaganda" Most …

        I like, how HBC try to spin it. It was all just Propaganda. ORLY?

        "Only the -A- leadership is bad." "Mukk is one of the best FCs in the game."

        Right, that all comes together to be not true. You cant shit on people for months and then just switch your opinion over night like BUSA cant fight vs PL for so long and then just find out, it is better to join them, because they all so bestbros.

        You are right in one point: There is a difference between saying and doing. What BUSA did now, says a lot. What HBC said or says, is just bullshit whichever way they say it.

        January 2, 2013 at 4:56 pm Reply
        1. jelly

          TEST should be the worst alliance in the game. We don't really pretend otherwise. The fact that we're able to shit on anyone is absolutely hilarious.

          January 2, 2013 at 4:59 pm Reply
    3. -A- FC

      We look forward to FCing Test pilots.. lol

      I agree Propaganda-forum-war has been fun

      December 31, 2012 at 8:47 pm Reply
  3. Another -A- Grunt

    BUSA, Mukk loved your fleets you gave me the most kills in my US TZ and you will be missed. I would have preferred you went to N3 since that seems to be the only choice other than CFC / HBC but whatever works for you guys. As far as eve's future, pains me to say but maybe it is time for all the older alliances to go away and something new be created that can reasonably challenge CFC or HBC without the past baggage of failed agreements. Time will tell if that will be the remnants of IRC, Solar, N3, Stain Wagon ANYONE ELSE NOT CFC / HBC which is not that many people based on the influence map.

    Forever hopeful for the future of 0.0….

    December 30, 2012 at 6:23 pm Reply
    1. BntyHunter

      Come join us AAA, you are invited to NCC, but as us NCDOT guys found out we let better Diplo`s speak for us :)

      December 31, 2012 at 9:05 pm Reply
  4. Dogs lipstick

    Mv still in -A-

    December 30, 2012 at 6:31 pm Reply
    1. Random CFC Grunt

      You may think so but EVE states otherwise

      December 30, 2012 at 6:48 pm Reply
  5. DaFuck

    MV gonna join NCDot. Its time to GTFO and look for new ally :(

    December 30, 2012 at 6:45 pm Reply
    1. Doc Snider

      that is better than BUSA.

      good luck to them!

      MV was always better than BUSA. The BUSA fags are "Top PVP Corp" in AAA, when MV, MVN, RAT, RTS, hirr are inactive.

      December 30, 2012 at 6:51 pm Reply
      1. ...

        top pvp corp:: 5th on the kb!

        December 30, 2012 at 7:30 pm Reply
        1. Doc Snider

          yes, roughly said. It means the other corps are more active in PVP and have more active PVP players.

          December 30, 2012 at 7:42 pm Reply
          1. Father Gabriel

            MV are like the goons … shittalk in local and allychat eh eh eh

            December 30, 2012 at 9:29 pm
  6. a random goon

    While -A- is an alliance I played with when I was in a blue alliance, I'm not able to say anything but that -A- deserve what happened right know to them. Their allies bailed out, and now it's one of their finest corp. And for one good reason:

    You don't talk back to -A-.

    That attitude has get them where they are now. Maybe the top ranked alliance in term of kill, but at what price? Their honour. Some people said here that -A- have honor, that they fight outnumbered, that they are true pvper. While I can't really disagree cause I were once part of -A- block and I know they used to be good at pvp, I can say there is no ''honorable'' attitude in -A-. They never respect deal, agreement, they shit talk everyone else, they don't accept defeat and seem unable to learn from their mistakes.

    It's not honour, it's stubborness.

    So while I whish the best of luck to -A- members, people that usually has nothing to do with this kind of drama, I really hope that when (not if) this alliance failcascade, the leadership and espescially people like Makalu, will never have a position of any importance again.

    December 30, 2012 at 6:56 pm Reply
    1. Doc Snider

      it is not their finest corp. You idiot!

      they are no. 6 in the list. Also what happened to A is shit? Now "finest" and soon HBC sugar daddy. Says a lot about HBC/Goons and about BUSA, too.

      December 30, 2012 at 7:05 pm Reply
      1. a random goon

        Blackwater USA was the finest corp in prime US during the time I was loosing ship for -A- side. They were doing a lot of PVP and near 50%,of all the kill at that time. Maybe things have changed, I weren't involve with -A- for the past 2 years.

        But the problem isn't with Blackwater who stuck with -A- when things weren't good for them, but with -A- leadership that doesn't adapt to the new situation in EVE, politics and diplomacy.

        Even if Blackwater USA isn't one of their good corp, what's your point? It doesn't change that -A- deserve what they get.

        God maybe forgives and -A- does not, but the difference is that people are willing to die for God, and not -A-.

        December 30, 2012 at 7:24 pm Reply
        1. Doc Snider

          the were the finest corp in US TZ, because they were the only corp, which was big in US TZ. They have 50 % all time, because they were longer in AAA than many other better corps. Jes, you so retarded gooni. No wonder you keep repeating Aisshit all the time. It is the only thing, you have.

          December 30, 2012 at 7:30 pm Reply
          1. Doc Snider

            now go kiss BUSA asses, oh Mukk is soo good and he has such a deep voice and they the finest

            lol, your brain would melt, if you had one.

            December 30, 2012 at 7:31 pm
          2. a random goon

            Such unjustified hate… With sensless arguments.

            I never said -A- was shit but you definitely are, sir

            December 30, 2012 at 7:38 pm
          3. Doc Snider

            you dont need to "sir" me. I am not a braindead American.

            December 30, 2012 at 7:47 pm
    2. AAA

      you are a totla hipocrit… so basically you just said you cant say they were bad pvpers cause you used to be in the same power block? that has nothing to do with pvp skills and just shows you that none of you unless in AAA or associated very closely knows shit about them…. you all just preach for your current block of allies and hate AAA because of bullshit propoganda…. Im in AAA, theres great guys and Maka is the shit of course he gets mad and screams but hes the FC. We will not die when these corps leave

      December 30, 2012 at 11:51 pm Reply
      1. Democratus

        Its rather simple.

        If you're AAA, you are shit!
        If you're HBC/GOONS/NC or anyone else I missed in their big NIP/NAPfest, you are da shit!

        The only way to not be shit and become da shit, is to join the blob coalitions.

        January 4, 2013 at 10:25 am Reply
    3. thanks

      An AAA pilot is utter shit EXCEPT when he joins the HBC/GOONS megablob, then he is a fine pvp warrior of the upmost quality.

      I'd quit this game before getting my knees for the HBC/GOON cock meat sandwich!

      December 31, 2012 at 12:10 am Reply
  7. Dogs lipstick

    MV still in aaa

    December 30, 2012 at 7:37 pm Reply
  8. Mouahah

    MV just join NC mouahah

    December 30, 2012 at 7:42 pm Reply
  9. poastin toaster

    since all of these corps are joining PL, i guess that means PL is shit.

    December 30, 2012 at 7:50 pm Reply
  10. nowedontcare

    PL…really? What -A- wasnt risk averse enough for them or something?

    December 30, 2012 at 8:03 pm Reply
  11. Norsk Maelstrom

    No wonder people are leaving Makalu sucks balls and is an asshole

    December 30, 2012 at 8:46 pm Reply
  12. R.I.P -A-

    yea BUSA and MVN … joined -A- when they took back all there lost Space in Catch back in the day and have been fotm.. after loosing there Space again after 2 years quess what happens ?!

    December 30, 2012 at 9:09 pm Reply
    1. -A- biomassed

      MV are fair weather friends, it must be said

      December 30, 2012 at 10:42 pm Reply
    2. The Observer

      not MVN as in Maverick Navy, MV as in Macabre Votum

      December 30, 2012 at 11:40 pm Reply
      1. BntyHunter


        MV went to the biggest Blob alliance that they still saw as a powerhouse where they could BOT just like NC

        MVN left IT at its most dire time and joined AAA to fight them, total turncoats and just as bad as anything, and infact even worse than BUSA since Busa left now that the war is over.

        Only few AAA guys think they can take back there lands, most understand they can`t…EVER while HBC is alive or while they dont join them.

        December 31, 2012 at 8:59 pm Reply
        1. -A- Zombie

          For the record – MVN Left IT after Molle announced IT disbanding.

          When we were accepted by .-A-. our only term was that we would not join in any SOV grinds against IT space even though IT Alliance was already on the verge of disbanding as per mail by Molle.

          SO FUCK YOU BntyHunter – get your facts straight.

          And who said the war was over? -A- fights on our own terms, pay attention ffs!

          January 2, 2013 at 9:41 pm Reply
          1. BntyHunter

            Funny your leaders told you that. I was roaming against you and AAA, when IT was alive and before Raiden had formed…..Hmm funny how all the IT guys thought you were traitors.

            And not thinking its over is stupid. Show me how you could take anyspace back you wanted if t was on your terms?

            January 2, 2013 at 10:56 pm
  13. Rumour Guy

    MV have been rumoured to be possibly going on trial with NCdot. Wich I think is one of the best places to go for vets with elite as cfc like to call it skills. Ncdot as has been proven are very good at what they do as the northern war showed us all from inspirational fights while constantly bein outnumbered. Think for those corps within -a- that do have some talent they will learn the art of fighting against the odds, not running away all the time unless it was a guaranteed win. Ncdot play the game to have fun so a good place for those corps with some talent to further that talent as -a- was not able to do. Ritzier ment club may also be coming south aswell from what iv been hearing to join their bros from the dotbros war. Apart from that think there's still a few spaces open on ncdot recruitment of corps, many have applied but I think there's only 2 more possible spaces. Worth looking into if you like fun Pvp :)

    December 30, 2012 at 9:17 pm Reply
    1. Rumour Guy

      Retirement club* predict txt sigh

      December 30, 2012 at 9:19 pm Reply
    2. BntyHunter

      Im happy with any AAA corps TBH, I like AAA. I love Mukk as well, but I do like my AAA corps.

      December 31, 2012 at 9:03 pm Reply
  14. weeee

    declare war on the goons already test.

    December 30, 2012 at 9:20 pm Reply
    1. Unknown

      That won't happen till all of 0.0 is taken. You have not "won" Eve until you control it all.

      BTW when the "Great War" happens it will not be what you expect. I would be leery of keeping large stockpiles of anything in the "trade hubs".

      December 31, 2012 at 3:38 pm Reply
  15. Since 03

    Hirt are going to shitty razor of all places, a hahahaa joining those scrubs is hularious!

    December 30, 2012 at 9:23 pm Reply
    1. Rumour Guy


      December 30, 2012 at 9:24 pm Reply
      1. Father Gabriel

        you dump fuck .. hirr not with a capital H -.- second, everybody knows hirr will be irc renter

        December 30, 2012 at 9:45 pm Reply
  16. hey guise

    so the real news is that PL finally got some half decent meat shields that know how to fit ships?

    December 30, 2012 at 9:34 pm Reply
    1. former eve player

      The sad news is, they were already in PL, like their "spy" director titled desert fox, whom also works with mittens the whole time.

      December 31, 2012 at 2:41 pm Reply
      1. Unknown

        Doh. You are all puppets in a grand game being played by Mitts and Monti.

        December 31, 2012 at 4:05 pm Reply
        1. Father Gabriel

          next fanfest is goon test fanfest .. not eve online fanfest .. so beneath notice for peeps who dont like drunk test and goon idiots ..

          December 31, 2012 at 7:37 pm Reply
  17. FA grunt

    He said he wanted to Jion a group without those bad qualities……they Jion a group partly run by test……….dumb ass and hypocrite the hbc is full of idiots now can't wait till the black water members see this and start to peal away

    December 30, 2012 at 10:10 pm Reply
    1. BntyHunter

      Because the CFC is full of talented geniouses :)

      You FA tools almost went HBC, but realized daddy would stop your Tec-Fund.

      FA is one of the worst ever.

      December 31, 2012 at 9:00 pm Reply
  18. Furrey Zateki

    Atleast post with your eve name to stand for what you are saying. If you leave an alliance that you have been fighting with for a long time then atleast show some respect until you have left since what M.V and BUSA did was just disgusting (They were lieing about other corps, they tried to mass recruit (tried 5 times with me in the last day) by telling people shit like what TJ said to his friends in NC. and PL that he was the one controlling hirr and if M.V leaves its 100% chanse we will follow them and just being jerks in general).

    Had a wall of text ready but then I remember this is the internet.

    Best regards
    Furrey Zateki

    December 30, 2012 at 10:47 pm Reply
    1. lalal

      BUSA and Muk are EVE scum in the same ballpark as Nulli.

      They switch sides, piss on their fellow pilots and mass recruit before they leave. Karma will be a bitch.

      December 31, 2012 at 12:18 am Reply
    2. truth

      why are you suprised by MV at least, they tried to overthrow MM leadership, failed then went to -A- so im not suprised they would do this, BUSA on the other hand made sence for them to leave

      December 31, 2012 at 6:24 am Reply
      1. gringalewt

        They tried to overthrow the leadership because they were the only ones doing a fucking thing and MM leadership had their heads up their asses.

        December 31, 2012 at 7:04 am Reply
        1. Father Gabriel

          to speak honest .. MM leadership suxxed in the end .. thats right

          December 31, 2012 at 8:19 am Reply
    3. gringalewt

      logs or you are full of shit.

      December 31, 2012 at 7:05 am Reply
      1. Furrey Zateki

        Why would i put my friends to danger to give you loggs a person who dosent even post with his real eve name? Since i guess its overman you would have the "power" to find me on skype and i can give you the loggs of your small adventures.

        Best regard

        December 31, 2012 at 3:33 pm Reply
  19. truth

    i dont think ppl would blame there pilots for leaving to greener pastures……..hey I just thought of a new alliance name

    December 30, 2012 at 11:00 pm Reply
  20. hirr leadership

    hirr joining tribe

    December 31, 2012 at 12:11 am Reply
    1. Father Gabriel

      LIES .. RAWR wakes up again … to go north and get back Tribute ^.^

      December 31, 2012 at 11:43 am Reply
      1. Unknown

        Dream on.

        December 31, 2012 at 4:00 pm Reply
  21. Aussie cunt

    Shut up you gay religious cunt.

    December 31, 2012 at 12:19 am Reply
    1. BobFromMarketing

      That is not an elaboration. Do please try again.

      December 31, 2012 at 1:24 am Reply
  22. pl gettingscammed

    about his spies in pl. go to eve radio abd watch the speach. pl is a fool to fall for this but hope they get what they deserve.

    December 31, 2012 at 1:02 am Reply
  23. Ill Omens

    Strange how Makalu posted an image of a federation officer that lost the federation flagship to a 20 year old defective brid of prey.. an ill omen mabie?

    December 31, 2012 at 3:17 am Reply
  24. The14th

    How are they going to get any fights at all? The Goonion super-bloc is invading new turf every month just so they have somebody to shoot at for a few days! If defections like this keep up like they have and there won't be anybody left other than Goons and Testies.

    December 31, 2012 at 4:02 am Reply
    1. Unknown

      Shhh. Don't tell anyone the plan.

      December 31, 2012 at 3:54 pm Reply
  25. wutwut

    "for all internsive purposes"

    Wow, what a genius. No wonder -A- is going to die soon.

    Oh, and welcome to NCdot, Macabre Votum. Congrats on leaving -A-.

    December 31, 2012 at 4:37 am Reply
    1. SEwin

      Yes, congrats on joining the extended HBC coalition.

      January 4, 2013 at 10:22 am Reply
  26. Raiden and NC. sold out White Noise. NC. sold out Raiden. Ewoke and BL sold out on NC. Ewoke sold out their souls.
    PL which i had the most respect for, are blueballing whole EVE. AAA sold out Nulli Secunda, AAA corps joining PL.
    Nullsec i going to hell. CCP cant do anything to improve 0.0 because it is all about ppl and apparenely, ppl down there are full of shit.

    I wouldnt think i d ever say this, but i actually started to respect and cheer for Goons.
    This is the game and only thing that stick to our persona irl is the honour and respect for eachother.

    December 31, 2012 at 10:27 am Reply
    1. Father Gabriel

      true words true words !!!

      December 31, 2012 at 10:44 am Reply
    2. War observer

      Much selling out, but many of those were going other way around. Now we know for sure NC. and Nulli were working for Test for a long time. So did Ewoke/BL/-A- sell out NC./Nulli or was it other way around? I would say it was Nulli and NC. that was backstabbing it's allies.

      Also fuck goons, they are the worse, list of allies they basckstabbed would exceed all of above mentioned combined.

      December 31, 2012 at 12:07 pm Reply
      1. BntyHunter

        Now we know for sure NC. and Nulli were working for Test for a long time.

        Really how do you figure?
        Is it because we kill more Test guys than we do SOLAR block? Or because we fight them 4 times daily?

        Only guys in Eve left who are independant, and guys like you cant stand it, we dont have PL`s backup of 20k strong, we just have PL a 1800 man Alli, and the rest of us 5k NCDOT+Nulli.

        This happend in 24 hours. But you are right we work for the guys we kill by the basket load.

        December 31, 2012 at 8:37 pm Reply
    3. Since 03

      Nulli ncdot being made to look like the bad guy, that's hularious. They stand for gfs. White noise failscadded and nobody was going to bring them back, so stop blaming it on ncdot. Further more RDN. Did not ask for help from ncdot and seemed as though they were doing fine against the cfc blob until titans were needed so cfc could actually win some fights with their blob of fucktards! BL. Was all stupidity on both parties part. Evoke leadership let their members and everyone else down when they bottled it for a pitty full 250bill. Ncdot have only adapted and fought cfc with dotbros giving us inspirational fights, and now fight solar bloc as they made retarded decisions and were too greedy for there own goods. Don't even try and say respect for goons…wtf you completely spazdicated, tey as history shows backstab 100% of the time and are the worse of all! Get clued up b4 you say stupid shit.

      December 31, 2012 at 2:48 pm Reply
      1. Since 03

        Titans were nerfed* it's ment to say bloody iPhone! RDN. Asked for help too late. By the time ncdot brought there forces to properly help RDN had folded back to lowsec. It was goons crying for the Titan nerf that fucked RDN over mainly. Cfc welping drake fleets on purpose to influence this is more than an abuse of power. Further more to that ncdot ended up defending RDN assets for a number of weeks until it became obvious RDN did not have any fight left in them. Remembering also the RDN reset on evoke that made things even more complicated! These things te average noob tard does not understand or know as they just blab without knowing that ncdot did this or that cuz your butt hurt.

        December 31, 2012 at 2:55 pm Reply
      2. I said nth bad about Nulli. They are one of the last bastions of GFs along with Gypsies. And i do respect NC., as i stated on forums in few posts they are my favorite Alliance out there, but they could do with some less dramalama.

        I just wanted to state that 0.0 has become a region where all is about blueing-balling, politics etc. and less about GFs. It is disgusting. Now, all the better corps are joining PL, everyone going for the game on easy mode and the Alliance that is forming will be unbeatable. They ll move away from HBC and will shape the 0.0 in the way they want.

        January 4, 2013 at 9:04 am Reply

      "AAA sold out Nulli Secunda"

      You must be on crack!
      Nulli gave up and left for high sec mid war while AAA was still there months after.
      AAA lost it space largely because it tried to help Nulli before being stomped by the combined HBC/CFC megablob.
      Nulli then went north and lost space to CFC by itself and quit that war only to come south and switch sides and
      attack AAA space. Now Nulli are blue to the HBC and push into our space in the east.

      Nulli changes alignment more often than Montolio changes his underpants. They have a reputation of quiting and switching side in hard wars even prior to their piss poor effort in defending their OWN space in Delve..

      January 4, 2013 at 9:58 am Reply
  27. AAAAaaaa

    I think Makalu's response could be described as "Klingon".
    No doubt confiming B-USA's decision to leave was the right one. I've fought against these guys a fair few times and they are well deserving of a place in PL. Will be good to see them showing as purple in my overview.

    December 31, 2012 at 1:20 pm Reply
    1. Since 03

      There are certainly better alliances than PL. these days. PL are a shadow of them selves and don't have an identity of being amazing with subcaps. Just just known for leading test and having massive supercap blob. Ncdot for example or even BL. Will give you a lot more buck for your money!

      December 31, 2012 at 2:38 pm Reply
  28. ReFLeX94

    one day we will all PL TEST, saving our small pixels

    December 31, 2012 at 2:14 pm Reply
    1. Father Gabriel

      yap yap … and the blue monster .. build up by ccp helpers pl .. test and goons will die in a fire ..and i will hold my marshmellows in this fire XD

      January 1, 2013 at 12:07 am Reply
  29. DubbaYooArr

    "for all internsive purposes" A still sucks. What exactly is internsive purposes? A Russo-English slang of intents and purposes?

    December 31, 2012 at 4:30 pm Reply
    1. Father Gabriel

      fuck you towaresh .. russian english .. beeeeeeessst inglish .. happy new year … ah 😉

      December 31, 2012 at 7:25 pm Reply
  30. Makalu Zarya

    I love all the rage from people who don't have the balls to post a single comment with their in-game name.

    People have their reasons for leaving, and that's their choice, and that is just fine with me. Going straight to PL is pretty weak in my opinion. Creating drama in alliance while leaving and trying to recruit other members is also some pretty shitty character.

    At the end of the day clearly some people just want eve on easy mode and want to be blue to pretty much everyone in eve and then run around proclaiming how we are triple shit and how -A- is going to die…we've all heard this before and I'm sure we will hear it again. At the end of the day Eve is a game and hopefully people made the right choice where they will have fun in the game, however it seems to me that some people are thinking more about their personal wallets than the fun that their pilots will have. But again…time will tell whether I'm right or wrong.

    At the end of it all I wish them all the best…but the matter of leaving could've been handled differently by all involved…that is all.

    ps. Yes this is actually me…different computer and can't be bothered to figure out what my login here is.

    December 31, 2012 at 1:05 pm Reply
    1. I cry
      December 31, 2012 at 7:45 pm Reply
      1. Father Gabriel

        whats da name of the bh? she has nice voice man

        December 31, 2012 at 11:37 pm Reply
    2. BntyHunter

      I love Mukk, but PL while being looked at by a lot of guys as the pinnacle of Eve PVP is a weird choice esp since they did talk so much shit about them.

      But you guys have lost a lot of your great members to them. BDCI, Tropa and now BUSA.

      2 things happen when you fight an enemy who beats you time and again, and they realize who they think are the ones holding your alliance together and are the "Cream of the crop"

      1. The enemy alliance "PL" see`s if they take these guys, they will hurt "AAA" very badly and at the same time they will get a lot more supers and the backbone of whats left for -A- and alot of numbers in 1 shot.

      2. The invitee`s feel like since -A- never bested them, and everytime PL was a step ahead and since Eve culture has prop`d up and made into PVP gods, they really have been somewhat stockholmed and really think PL is the ultimate…Its like the NFL for PVPers. Even if in reality its not the best it once was and does side with a giant coalition it still is looked on like that.

      Mak would you honestly be less angry if they went to NCDOT?

      It makes sense in the way that Mukk`s old Corp who was hard corp solid great PVPers Hull Miners Union/ onion
      was part of Cry Havoc for like 1 month before we closed but it gave them some familiarity with Habit and Elise Randolph, also they were flying with NCDOT as well for a time, who are another group very close with PL.

      And now Habit is basically all Ex-CH members, they formed a super corp after CH closed. It makes sense somewhat also seeing as the guys like BDCI, Tropa going and telling your guys in -A- how much better the PVP is and how much more fun they are having.

      Either way expect PL to go from 80 NAPOCS to 100 in every engagement. Making 200 Tengu`s need to be 250

      December 31, 2012 at 8:06 pm Reply
      1. AAA

        we dont think of PL as gods lmao… 1v1 we take pl everytime but its never 1v1… anyways Mukk and BUSA are traitors.

        for all you thinking AAA is gonna die haha… think again

        January 1, 2013 at 3:35 am Reply
        1. BntyHunter

          I didnt say AAA was gonna die, I dont think they will. You will however probably never be the same as you were.

          Its just facts but each time you lost your space and came back, you would become weaker and weaker. Now you dont have any ROL/Stainwagon to help you take HBC and kick em out.

          What do you think in reality will happen?

          Lastly, can you please link me a fight where PL lost to you clearly when it was 1v1. Just one KB link although 2 would be nice. Please I reall ywanna see what you mean.

          January 1, 2013 at 3:39 am Reply
          1. Furrey Zateki

            I think that will be a problem to do since alteast since i started playing ive never seen PL go alone vs any alliance ive been in and ive been in almost every fleet that happened during EU/USTZ.

            Best regards
            Furrey Zateki

            January 1, 2013 at 3:55 am
          2. SOLAR

            PL never fight 1 versus 1. They have been riding the ass end of coalition since prior to the DRF days. Nulli was kicking their asses because they called for help. They got lots of supers but their low membership count make it impossible for them to do anything significant on their own.

            Having said that, EVE is at a state where almost no one could do it alone. TEST, even with its mega numbers of members, without PL and pets would of been curve stomped long ago.

            January 4, 2013 at 10:05 am
          3. former eve player

            They have been riding the ass of coalitions since BoB as MC.

            January 4, 2013 at 7:32 pm
    3. OprahObama

      your a piece of shit cocksuker and prob the main reason they left -a-, you pretty much fucked everyone over that you can and suck a lot of cock while doing it, so really should you be asswipe.

      December 31, 2012 at 9:25 pm Reply
      1. Makalu Zarya

        the anger is strong with this one

        also no one said I was angry…i merely stated a fact that I'm disappointed in certain people and that I expected better of them. There is no reason to take what I say and put it in your own context.

        December 31, 2012 at 10:03 pm Reply
        1. dafarr

          lol this coming form maka , m8 one of the main reason's i left BUSA was because i could not stand being in another fleet with you yelling and screaming like a 12 girl , best of luck BUSA , PL lucky to have you

          January 6, 2013 at 3:33 pm Reply
          1. dafarr

            12 y/o*

            January 6, 2013 at 3:36 pm
      2. Furrey Zateki

        Maka didnt fuck anyone over that i know of atleast, even though its a game i still belive that corps that have been around for a while should show some "Space-honor" when leaving instead of acting like jerks. In the end we all play this to have more fun then we think we would have doing other things in life so stop acting like some 4chan:er and have fun instead.

        Best regards
        Furrey Zateki

        December 31, 2012 at 10:33 pm Reply
      3. LOL

        You need help buddy. Its a game….never forget that. A computer game. Step outside and get some sun.

        January 4, 2013 at 10:06 am Reply

      Theng talked all that made shitttttt at eve vegas and now he is sucking on the wang of the shadooo douchbag.Shadoo is one of the most fail of them all. Theng you better learn the difference in love or like.Spit or swallow.I believe it is a scam to get inside PL deeper and gut them. Theng said in vegas he had spies in PL.

      December 31, 2012 at 10:58 pm Reply
      1. lol

        What he meant was, he got alts in PL 😉

        not spies.

        January 1, 2013 at 10:24 pm Reply
    5. CFC

      you dont seem to have fun while fc'ing though, you scream alot

      January 1, 2013 at 8:25 pm Reply
    6. UdrankKoolaid

      It's your lack of respect for anyone really that has done -A- in. I'm not talking blue standings, I'm talking for you in general. Goodbye Maka. I hope to drop on I'm Harmless some day. Good luck with -A-

      January 2, 2013 at 1:13 am Reply
    7. Wahhhhh

      I love all of the rage from people who post with their in-game name and insist that it requires any courage.
      If someone posts with their in-game name, what do you intend to do to them?
      Will you hunt them down in station somewhere when they least expect it and suck it so hard that it hurts?
      Will you somehow tie the in-game to rl name and show up at their house and beat the shit out of their shih tzu?
      Maybe hide in the kitty litter and surprise fuck their cat.
      GROW UP! Go in your mothers room right now and punch her in the face for raising such a demented little bastard!

      January 16, 2013 at 6:21 pm Reply
  31. BntyHunter

    I told you all biatches :)

    Mukk is one of the best FC`s in the game, he was good in Cry Havoc, good in NCDOT, I loved him and now PL has seen how good him and his ex-Hull Miner guys are and how when he joined BUSA it was a joke and now is always top 10 on corps…

    Mukk im happy for you broseph and look forward to flying with you again.

    December 31, 2012 at 2:45 pm Reply
    1. abc123

      Dont forget the baby wipes to clean the white stuff off your lips mate!!!

      January 1, 2013 at 8:36 pm Reply
      1. BntyHunter

        I like Mukk as an FC , even when he was against me, you were probably fiercely [thats right I went there] defending him 2 weeks ago, I love how now you act tough and I have to be gay to like his FC style.

        January 2, 2013 at 3:11 am Reply
        1. Wahhhhh

          Good Lord! You do come off like a proper faggot here. Please review your posts before submitting them. If you try real hard, you may be able to edit out the improper language.

          January 18, 2013 at 7:00 pm Reply
    2. Gixxer 1000

      Muck is indeed a fantastic FC. He remains calm, chooses his battles wisely, and knows game mechanics and tactics like a great FC should. I can honestly say, Mukk has been the best FC I've ever flown with. GULP! Pass the wipes please.

      Don't believe my comments about Mukk, just go look at his KB stats, nuff said.

      January 2, 2013 at 11:23 am Reply
  32. Kiyohime Ronuken

    The faster -A- disintegrates like airplane toilet paper the faster GSF and HBC can turn on eachother.

    December 31, 2012 at 8:23 pm Reply
  33. -A- Grunt

    I would say PL wanted BUSA mostly for Mukk. Been playing EVE for 7 years now under multiple large alliances and Mukk is one of if not THE best USTZ FC I've flown under.

    I'm not worried about a fail cascade. This is the ebb and flow of large alliances. It's a simple 9-step plan:

    1) New large alliance forms from other alliances failing.
    2) New large alliance sets it sights on taking space.
    3) New large alliance fights for and takes new space.
    4) Large alliance squats on said space for a year or so.
    5) Large alliance stretches itself thin by taking space they don't need and/or becoming so riddled with spies major plans are consistently foiled and half the universe hates your guts.
    6) Old large alliance looses space to new large alliance and everybody calls failcascade.
    7) Old large alliance looses corporations who join new/existing large alliance for "greener pastures".
    8) Old small alliance retreats and lays low until new large alliances fight each other on the other side of the universe.
    9) Repeat at step 1.

    December 31, 2012 at 10:30 pm Reply
    1. Father Gabriel

      thaaaaaats it .. lets wait ..its for sure .. that this vacuum of red will implode and form a new universe of pew pew again. Its law of entropy ^.^ systems tend to be havoc and absolut disorder… means the end of all blue to each other is near … hopefully

      December 31, 2012 at 11:42 pm Reply
  34. Suspect bystander

    busa is off to a awesome start in empire!

    December 31, 2012 at 10:55 pm Reply
  35. kadeshi grunt

    PL botting corp detected!!

    January 1, 2013 at 12:05 am Reply
    1. former eve player

      one of your alliance leaders spacepig works with shadoo and goons, I know because I had convos with him on the goonswarm intelligence channel and seen him all the time with shadoo on jabber.

      But you are a "grunt" so I wont hold that against you.

      January 1, 2013 at 12:46 pm Reply
  36. darren

    GJ Maka !! spot on these guys are scum,in particular the CEO of BUSA who is throwing his corp under teh bus for rmt/isk whatever he got promised ,im sure the corp wont see any of it

    January 1, 2013 at 12:06 am Reply
  37. Sukhdeep

    BUSA is full of wank off, dip shit wanna bee's anyhow…sounds like something Booby atlas one did and some other moron before him, rinse and repeat, EVE once again does nothing new, just rebrands old shit and hopes the audience has forgotten….

    January 1, 2013 at 1:48 am Reply
  38. merce lolita

    well, to be honest AAA being raped by first PL and test friends and now everyone and there grandmothers joining in to share in taking AAA sov under undeclared naps has put a lot of pressure on corps that were or are in AAA.But the good thing is corps show there real character under pressure. I hope AAA sticks to there guns and waits for the coming revenge which will be sweet when these coalitions now all so powerful begin the downhill slide. As a ex provi -observer I would rather be a part of AAA then these twats now saying super coalitions are the only way. In fact they agree to disagree while eating up AAA sov.

    Merce Lolita and my alt drifter tuli which i no longer have as i left provi

    January 1, 2013 at 6:51 pm Reply
  39. Hatersgonnahate

    Wait, people were still in -A-?

    January 2, 2013 at 12:44 am Reply
  40. Suspect bystander

    join pl, get raped by war targets smooooooth busa, smoooth.

    January 2, 2013 at 11:32 pm Reply
  41. PL being test pets is not good

    January 3, 2013 at 7:00 pm Reply
  42. greetings from curse

    can't wait for PL to pull the card and gank all of -a-'s assets in one fell swoop.

    January 4, 2013 at 1:30 am Reply
  43. blah

    All i see is another corp joining up to hug on goonswarm like pandemic puppies have. i am sorry i mean pandemic legion

    January 4, 2013 at 8:20 pm Reply
  44. eve-is-sh1tt

    -7 player, and nothing ever amazes me, but all I can say, Im playing less and less, and as soon as my region is purged, bye bye eve.

    C'mon it's get stale by the week. Hurry up Goons or HBC/PL.

    January 5, 2013 at 1:13 am Reply
    1. TESTie

      "You're not killing us fast enough!!!11!oneone!

      January 6, 2013 at 6:36 am Reply
  45. kinomania

    hoping pl have amok and bort join them too and have massive blue fire inside

    January 5, 2013 at 5:12 am Reply
  46. superbittervet

    If -A- are Klingons then PL are the Dominion

    January 12, 2013 at 10:30 pm Reply
    1. Wahhhhh

      ORRRRRRRR…… -A- are the simply the Fags and you should not take it to heart when you hear a man speak gently and fondly into another man's ball sack.
      It pains me to say that I have watched a lot of StarTrek in my time. But I fail to remember any episodes that remind me of -A-.
      I do however remember a special episode of Different Strokes wherein a lecherous neighbor tried to push Arnold's shit in. And the episode of Good Times when little Janet Jackson got touched by the bad man.
      These television programs remind me much more of -A- than StarTrek

      January 16, 2013 at 6:12 pm Reply

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