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In the past few weeks since the new N3 Coalition was formed, people have stated a multitude of things. Some of the most common are “HBC/CFC Allies” or “HBC Pets”. A couple of battles happened recently which strains the theory of N3 being allied with the HBC and even more surprisingly, the new RA/Gorgon Block. We’ve seen N3 send support to RA and Gorgon in previous engagements. Today marks the first day I’ve seen a battle between the two entities.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15192841

This engagement happened in the new N3 staging system of CKX. Another Engagement with the HBC happened yesterday.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15187571

Given, the HBC Fleet is nowhere near an actual Op as the numbers do no reflect real intention of invading the N3 systems. The same goes for the Gorgon engagement as there was no RA support and the numbers were too low to be an actual op.

Perhaps we’re seeing those elusive “Good Fights” everyone talks about?

If you have any further information regarding these engagements, I’d love to hear them in the comments below.

-Exversion

116 Comments

  1. Cynical Jovian

    First. And gudfites are a myth.

    November 13, 2012 at 8:58 pm Reply
    1. Man Dude

      I had one in 2006.

      November 13, 2012 at 10:29 pm Reply
    2. True true

      If any gfs have happened over the last year plus then 95% of them in 0.0 came when dotbros hammered cfc fleets that outnumbered them 2:1 3:1 and even winning huge fight when cfc outnumbered them 5:1 those epic inspirational fights is why N3 are a force to be feared now but more so in the future. If you like gfs or are a ever seeking gfs kinda dude then alliances within the old dotbros is we're you would be. Cfc/HBC is just napfest blobbing no challenge yawn boredom.

      November 13, 2012 at 11:09 pm Reply
  2. True true

    Lol it's called gfs. Your looking far too much into this bro. There are alliances that enjoy gfs and know how to have them. Not everybody is retarded as goons ya know lol.

    November 13, 2012 at 9:00 pm Reply
    1. Exversion

      That's what I figured which is why I added the elusive gud fites portion in the article. Good stuff. Glad to see them happening. They are quite rare. :)

      November 13, 2012 at 9:08 pm Reply
  3. Test Grunt

    You're reading too much into this. The test fleet roamed for hour looking for a fight before we finally headed to the closest blip on the map. We circled the station for 1 hour while they formed something to take us on. We were expecting a goodfite from nulli-capfleets-secunda but they obviously were looking to blob.

    November 13, 2012 at 9:45 pm Reply
    1. Exversion

      Maybe so, but it's always fun to look at every angle of a situation. I figured it was just for good fights because Test nor Gorgon brought enough numbers to be considered an op.

      But it also reflects that N3 and HBC are not blue with each other. As well as Gorgon and N3 not being blue with each other.

      It's still an interesting event none the less.

      November 13, 2012 at 9:54 pm Reply
      1. Internet jerk

        From the nulli side of the HBC engagement: Test showed up in good spirit and hopefully went home that way. It wasn't a hard-feelings fight. As a line member, there's always the feeling that a major op where test shows up might turn into a real brawl, but there's general acceptance that while the HBC isn't a formal ally with standings, they're shooting our reds too.

        N3's mantra as well read: sov. And since we're taking it, it might as well be from Solar and -A-.

        Furthermore, Nulli's relationship (or lack thereof) with -A- only seems to draw two kinds of prejudices. -A- say's we bailed on them, although I'm not sure how you can bail on an alliance that never undocks in the first place. The other retarded thing that people say is that N3 are pets, which makes zero fucking sense when you look at our standings.

        People are acting like N3 are some kind of shadow organization. Just fucking convo someone and ask. None of this stuff is secret.

        November 13, 2012 at 10:44 pm Reply
        1. Hurrrr

          " -A- say's we bailed on them, although I'm not sure how you can bail on an alliance that never undocks in the first place"

          This is exactly the propaganda goon cum that you guys have been swallowing and feeding on amoungst your grunts then? Care to explain why we (-A-) RAN more fleets than you guys did in delve? Or why we lost 4x the isk in ships DEFENDING your space in delve? Killed 7x more things than you guys did in this time frame in delve? All of this while being docked up huh?

          The 'Docking up' excuse is taken way out of proportion. Sure – we do use it when we are heavily outnumbered and cannot take the fight, but the whole time in delve? Fuck no, get out.

          Please come back with something original, because we did far more work than you ever did as you left us holding the bag while you scuttle off to the north because things got too hot – and surprise surprise, you did it from the north as well. How long until back North again? 1 month?

          November 14, 2012 at 1:39 am Reply
          1. More importantly

            I can remember a time when WN. closed down -A- and had to roam to Fucking delve to get a fight because -A- refused to undock. Wasn't even Sov warfare back then just a couple of systems taken as staging and Rarely getting a fight.

            November 14, 2012 at 3:17 am
          2. Ex-WNduder

            Maybe because we dropped supers on everything they undocked? :)

            Good times.

            November 14, 2012 at 7:05 am
          3. -A- FC

            It was good times .. -A- fighting outnumbered vs superior numbers and 40 broken tracking titans and supers with broken bombers of doom.

            Test are shit to fight they just scurry like rats and dock up till PL organises a fleet on a titan then fails to use it.

            Outside of sov warfare with large numbers of supers and PL leading it Test are utterly useless.

            November 14, 2012 at 11:14 pm
          4. fail

            you didnt run more fleets than nulli they were fighting months before you showed up and you lost more isk in ships because you flew stupid loki's and whelped them like the shit you are.

            November 14, 2012 at 4:35 am
          5. U know who

            And -A- fought for weeks after Nulli bailed in order to pad thier wallets orbiting FW beacons……..oh and we were stilll there fleeting up when you subsequently moved north in order to suckle upon Vinces Tech nipples.

            You counting fleets those champ?

            November 14, 2012 at 8:06 pm
          6. dani

            where exactly did you fought?
            in the NPC space between delve and Querious ??
            Was that fight to save delve or querious ?
            How did you fight ? Gate camps all around ???
            Don't lie to your self! Were you even there ?

            November 16, 2012 at 6:10 pm
          7. Frontovik

            You ran more fleets because your leadership refused to let non-A- FCs run ops.

            November 14, 2012 at 8:17 am
          8. EVE is real

            Must be why many -A- members ran with Canaris' gila fleets and with progod's mael fleets? And progod himself fced quite a few ctas for -A-, even when -A- members were in Lokis and Nulli were in ahacs

            November 14, 2012 at 4:59 pm
          9. -A- FC

            Nulli didn't want help till the end and then when they did ask for it they wouldn't let -A- members join fleets nor organise CTAs for their own space because they already had the eye on the exit. They had no intention of fighting the whole north with us.

            Perhaps they were the 'clever' ones? I would rather be a martyr and stand for something rather then be someone who turned and ran whilst their allies fought on.

            Beware fair weather friends in EVE, especially if they are holding something behind their back.

            November 14, 2012 at 11:21 pm
          10. dani

            We can all see how good the -A- FCs are
            Apparently all they do is crying in the forums :)

            November 16, 2012 at 6:13 pm
          11. indy

            agreed :)

            November 18, 2012 at 4:18 am
          12. TheStaafsak

            Ever heard of the word: ''Imposter''

            November 18, 2012 at 10:03 pm
        2. jimmy

          Wow Nulli really did lose the war on kugu.

          Do these kugu readers actually know what logic means? Cuz technically if you never undocked in a war you can't quite get the RECORD KILLS IN A MONTH FOR ANY ALLIANCE in the history of the game!

          I hope that was clear :P

          November 14, 2012 at 5:01 pm Reply
    2. The_Oracle86

      blob?? you do realise you are a test fag implying someone is trying to blob you?

      Stick to being an f1 monkey. Leave the intelligent thinking to others.

      November 13, 2012 at 11:01 pm Reply
    3. INKa

      Glad to hear N3 doing good. As a guy in the NCC I wish em all the best of luck. Keep on rockin bros!

      November 13, 2012 at 11:08 pm Reply
    4. poastin toaster

      its not their fault they had more friend online than you did.

      November 13, 2012 at 11:17 pm Reply
    5. since when is 93 against 55 considered a blob?O.o

      November 14, 2012 at 7:53 am Reply
    6. War Observer

      Truly awesome bravado coming from N3. They are fighting Test only when Test commands them to do so. Truly obedient pets indeed.

      N3 if you are so independent why does Test needs to tell you for a fight, why don't you go to Test space or some roaming, kill some of their ratting/botting carriers, camp K-6 for a few hours. I know girding structures is so much more fun, and your master might look you wrong if you ruin his slippers, and smack you over the nose with rolled up newspaper.

      November 14, 2012 at 6:03 pm Reply
      1. Exversion

        From what I can tell, N3 is still in the process of moving. The Heavy Hitter Northern Coalition has yet to join their allies in the south.

        N3 is also working to establish their foothold in the south.

        N3 is still only a few weeks old. I'm sure we will see more fights from them in the future. For now, It appears they are focused on structure bashing in Immensea, Tenerefis and Detorid.

        November 14, 2012 at 6:22 pm Reply
        1. War Observer

          My money nothing will change, you might provide entertainment to roming TEST/Goon gangs when they demand it from you but you will never dear to do anything serious against either goons of test. Test or goons don’t tolerate shit like that. Take coven for example, they are not threat to HBC, they were not part of SoCo and did not participate in-A- fleets during goon+pet invasion of the south. All they did is kill some Tribe/Test raters for fun. Still goons want to remove them and replace them with obedient pets.

          This is how it will work in 0.0 from now on, only pets can stay. And this is what Vince and ProGod know. This is why Vince backstabbed black legion and purged all prominent anti-goon members from NC., and why ProGod uses alliance meetings to brownose to Montolio. They know this is only way they will be allowed too keep any sov, and they are too spineless and greedy to live without sov.

          So I dear you, go to space of goon pets and hunt some of their ratters, kill some of their POS, and see what happens. There will be call for purge of N3 within fortnight if not sooner. This is what happened up north first time around Vince was attempting to make NC. in to a goon pet. Some NC. pilots dared to get involved in to killing of single goon POS and immediately there was call to purge of their space. Bunch of Esoteria people did some PVP and killed some HBC ratters and behold there is agenda of purging that space too. Now if you think this N3 coalition of yours will be exception to those rules you are pathetically naïve. You will be allowed to keep your space only as long you are useful pets, and if that comes to an end you will be blobbed out of 0.0, maybe even out of existence. Enjoy your sov. space, I hope it is worth your dignity.

          November 14, 2012 at 7:47 pm Reply
          1. U know who

            Actually it's likely HBC is attacking the area for the Cobalt moons since most of thier conquest maps exactly to the regions with largest counts of cobalt moons. The timing on the invasion of Delve also corresponds to the tech nerf. Won't be enough to completely shore up Tech prices but they will be taking a substantial portion out of action which will help greatly lower cobalt supply and keep prices high enough to minimize competition with tech production.

            The last two big cobalt producers are Providence and Paragon Soul.
            http://evemaps.dotlan.net/region/moons

            November 15, 2012 at 6:05 pm
          2. reader

            ^^^ very interesting post (U know who)! Do you have a blog I can read?

            November 16, 2012 at 5:06 pm
      2. Frontovik

        If we're roaming for hostiles, it's probably in, you know, the areas we are in the process of sovgrinding. Out of Sight is a common target (and they are HBC now or something? Guess they're mad about losing Tenerifis).

        November 14, 2012 at 6:45 pm Reply
      3. Kirk

        Nulli Has come to HE'D-GP multiple times get ur head out of ur ass

        November 14, 2012 at 7:08 pm Reply
  4. Santa little helper

    in that test fight.

    if that was say BL V test and test had the bigger number, you guys would still have lost. improve your quality and 30+ more people to shoot won't be a blob but target practice,

    a blob is when someone is double your size +++ more. you know what you guys do to win everything.

    November 13, 2012 at 10:28 pm Reply
    1. fail

      lol? a roaming gang came back and took them in 800mm tempests. Please stop talkin shit

      November 13, 2012 at 11:17 pm Reply
  5. Nexus Noob

    Im in nexus, and HBC is neut to us… That fight with HBC I was in and it was a good fight and we plan on seeing more. We are blue to the INK and Why So but also not blue to RA and Gorgon. Diplo is still happening but you know im pretty happy with what it is now.

    November 13, 2012 at 11:32 pm Reply
  6. Coalition Grunt

    GFs were had, GFs will continue to happen. You don't have to have standing blues with someone to work together to grind down someone that both coalitions dislike… .-A-. & Solar

    November 13, 2012 at 11:44 pm Reply
  7. Cetegus Morr

    Dudes, can you possible establish a bloody abbreviation lexicon for articles on this page? For new players and those (like me) who are not constantly reading up the ebb and flow of Alliances, Coalitions and 0.0 Drama, it's extremely difficult to follow who is who (N3 in this case) and understand what's happening.

    Not having that information makes it quite useless (and frustrating) to invest time in reading.

    Thanks!

    November 13, 2012 at 11:46 pm Reply
    1. Exversion

      Would the EN24 Readers like a separate page listing the current Coalitions and such on the main page? I can devote a bit of time to creating that sort of resource for the viewers.

      November 13, 2012 at 11:47 pm Reply
      1. Cetegus Morr

        Would be a nice one but only if EN24 uses it by linking to it. As things seem do shift and develop quite vividly, in terms of coalitions, this kind of mini-wiki would need regular updates (which the EN24 editor could do on the go while posting here I assume).

        November 14, 2012 at 12:02 am Reply
      2. XxX

        Would it be too hard to write a true piece of journalism?

        A good article should have all the relevant information in it. Not in some glossary.

        Stop using abbreviations and actually take the time to make the article understandable by anyone reading it.

        November 14, 2012 at 1:12 pm Reply
        1. NullSecHoBo

          And how much are you paying for the amazing service, again?

          November 14, 2012 at 2:03 pm Reply
          1. XxX

            Nothing. But, why do something halfassed?

            November 14, 2012 at 3:56 pm
          2. Always laughahaha

            because it's videogame news

            November 14, 2012 at 5:03 pm
          3. Exversion

            My articles are not here to hold your hand through your life journey. They are here to make you think and come up with coherent thoughts of your very own.

            I have brought to you an engagement from EvE Online. I have written my opinion on it. Now it's there for discussion.

            I'm Not here to hold your hand through these discussions my friend. I'm sure you can walk on your own.

            November 14, 2012 at 6:25 pm
      3. NullSecHoBo

        That would be quite useful indeed, thanks! For new players who may not be familiar with the ever-shifting landscape of 0.0 alliances and coalitions, it can be quite confusing indeed. Specially when it turns out a lot of the "new" entities are simply old wine in a new bottle.

        November 14, 2012 at 2:02 pm Reply
    2. Bakkhai

      This is my problem with EVE and has been for years. The elite community abbreviates everything to death at the exclusion of new players. This is bad for retention.

      November 16, 2012 at 5:08 pm Reply
  8. S2N Grunt

    I don't know about the Gorgon situation… but I believe Test and us just like the fact that we can convo FC's from either side and get a fight.

    It's not always about trying to destroy the other person's alliance… sometimes it's nice to have someone in the area you can just get a good fight with, and go home… nightly.

    Nully and Test used to do this all the time while S2N lived in C3N… I hope we can do the same now. I think both alliances just like shooting each other.

    November 14, 2012 at 12:18 am Reply
  9. hetugen

    Nulli has its own coalition with nc and others. Gypsy formed the other one with GYPSY, THE UNTHINKABLES GORGON(gorgon only blue for big fight and resets after fight) RA were let into the coalition as somone needed to hold the space… Effectivly RA dont have much to say in this coalition, they get told what to do by the other members. And this coalition will disband after the SOLAR affair is over and standings will be reset. might be some NIP's but thats it. Some alliances will form a new block and others will allign with Nulli block. But i think higher ups will keep contacts going. On the Nulli side of things i think they will align with HBC if there would come to an war between CFC and HBC

    November 14, 2012 at 12:52 am Reply
    1. Kiyohime Ronuken

      Been fighting the three you mention there in all caps. Hope you find some better PVPers soon…

      November 14, 2012 at 2:28 pm Reply
      1. hetugen

        and who are you? xD

        November 14, 2012 at 3:49 pm Reply
    2. asda

      its gypsy ink whyso with gorgon only blue for ops, just sayin..

      November 14, 2012 at 3:10 pm Reply
  10. YouAskedForIt

    N3 is like new beginning of the south.. to get that beginning we will have to leave HBC sov alone for now, that war is over and we lost. I'm very sure that we will at some time start a war with HBC or parts of it or with Goons. To my knowledge must of the alliances in N3 has set standings to HBC alliances to -10 except NCdot that are + with PL. Currently we only have one real enemy and that's SOLAR.. -A- is just in our way.. they didn't understand when it was time to gtfu so now we have to show them the door. I have nothing personally against -A-.. they done aright but their time is over.. something new was needed and so here we are. Most likely a big part of -A- will join N3 or Solar at some point and leave the Russians to their own fate in -A-.

    November 14, 2012 at 1:17 am Reply
    1. Exversion

      I was actually going to write an article on this but havn't had the time yet.

      I disagree with your "Big part of -A- will join N3-. The reason is, they are the only alliance I've seen that have a solid retention rate of corps and members when losing Sov. Even Nulli lost a few corps when ejected from Delve.

      -A- has impressive stats for an Alliance being ejected from their Sov: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Against_ALL_Au

      As much as I dislike my previous experiences with -A-, I can admire the Alliance for what it is. They are exactly what they say they are and do exactly what they say they do. They will move to NPC space. They will regroup, and they will strike Nullsec again.

      The question now is… when that time comes… will they have the power to come back. N3 is a powerful coalition and that's who -A- will have to contend with.

      November 14, 2012 at 1:29 am Reply
      1. anon

        n3 itself may or may not be powerfull enough to stand vs -a-.
        but that is not the problem. the problem is that as soon as something larger then battlecruiser is fielded by -a- side you will see how -10 they are towards hbc, because hbc will come and help n3.

        and no n3 will no shoot at -10 targets because of nc. and pl are friends. that would break the entire coalition if someone in n3 would even fire a single shoot at a pl capital

        November 14, 2012 at 2:55 am Reply
        1. BntyHunter

          Sorry man but N3 would rip AAA a new one.

          Not being Biased but, I know 100% sure that AAA could not have held out vs GSF/CFC the way N3 – nexus/Pangu and other great groupslike Kadeshi/Twats etc did.

          CFC would have simply steamrolled AAA, they really had trouble vs NCDOT/Nulli very very badly.

          Next AAA Doesnt have the Supercap fleet to fight a PL/NCDOT type Alliance they proved that. So they used hit and run tactics. Problem is NCDOT IMO is way better at those same tactics than AAA is.

          AAA has 4k Members+4k Citz to think about NCDOT has 1700 and Same with Nulli and both are alot lighter on there feet, NCDOT has basically been moving since they became NCDOT, staying in Tribute is by far the longest they have ever stayed anywhere.

          Dont get me wrong AAA is tough but like I said they would have gotten beat just like with HBC, by overwhelming numbers [as would NCDOT have, but DOT would have lasted longer]. And the tactic AAA used to fight HBC are NCDOT`s bread and butter.

          Look for instance at SC ganks, yes AAA layeda nice trap recently but NCDOT was consitantly farming SC`s in the north the entire 4 months.

          Sorry but alone NCDOT and AAA would be a good fight and I`d still go with NCDOT by a little because they will use there Supers and they have more, now add Nulli and it just gets even worse, and Nexus and the numbers they bring it gets even way worse, add great pilots like Twats doing Bomber/Blackops runs and Kadeshi and Pangu T3 fleets and its simply to much.

          70-90 is standard fast form up [by fast I mean 5 mins] for NCDOT
          70-90 with Nulli
          ————————————–
          120-140 [Frigs with Nexus]
          Kadeshi 20
          Pangu 20
          Twats 20

          From what I have seen AAA is all over the map with diff TZ`s from 39 like today, [39 AAA vs 69 NCDOT] http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&…
          Im just not sure AAA will be able to form up 100 guys+ every TZ all times let lone 200+ for Nulli+NCDOT let alone 300 to fight all of N3

          Please dont twist my words and say I said AAA sucks because they dont, I just dont think n this scenario they are as fast at forming up or as active a player base as NCDOT/Nulli and 4k AAA vs 3800 NCDOT/Nulli IMo it goes to later everytime in both numbers and supers.

          November 15, 2012 at 1:38 am Reply
          1. rememberrrR

            remember NCdot also has multi timezone coverage, something that most alliances do not have.
            eg, AAA

            November 15, 2012 at 7:16 am
          2. U know who

            "Not being biased..but.."

            Holy shit..did you really start your reply off like that?

            n3 is better because we lost slower to CFC is a weak argument. I'm pretty sure if PL was running the show for CFC (like they were down south) things would have been different – instead you had a limited number of semicompetent FC's running substandard fleet doctrines against a much better opponent (NCDOT).

            Currently -A- is in fuckaround mode……the fact that they are constantly running tons of roams between 20 – 70 people all over EVE should indicate we've not lost our appetite for pew. You may be misintepreting this as an inability to consolidate into a fleet if needed.

            While you're likely right -A- alone would not be enough against the combined weight of N3 and their ability to safely drop supers – we all know what would happen if -A- committed supers to a fight with N3..PL would be there with 100 SC's in a New York second.

            I dont think it's unfair to say at this point if we fought N3 we'd be fighting HBC/PL too ….so the argument is irrelevant.

            November 15, 2012 at 5:52 pm
          3. BntyHunter

            Sorry I can be unbiased.

            First I was talking NCDOT, if you wanna add N3 then its no contest. We do tons of Super Drops they just arent as famous as our Ganking of SC`s by BS`s. But yeah sorry our SC`s alone would cripple you to begin with.

            AAA would have the same problems with NCDOT as they had with PL, Supers they cant match meaning Capitals they cant use.

            Ok they are in fuckaround mode, congrats. Are you proud of that or saying that when you come back to full strength which probably wont happen you will be alot stronger.

            Guess you didnt get memo that NCDOT has a smaller SC fleet by like 15 Supers……That might aswell be the same fleet to you. Also they are always on standby and our actions are just as fast.

            Lol if you think PL would have beat CFC your smoking alot of crack. I love PL but fact is they need Test for numbers, alone NCDOT has more guys and not just in one timezone like AAA, we have more guys in all TZ`s.

            I dont think it's unfair to say at this point if we fought N3 we'd be fighting HBC/PL too ….so the argument is irrelevant.

            Thats a cop out point.

            Fact is NCDOT has way more supers and are great at using them very well just like PL, hell we have most Raidens Supers and a shit ton from RA/BE/Otutlaws etc……We double your SC Fleet at aALL TIMEZONES

            Im trying to explain our Aussie fleet vs your main TZ could put up a fight, wold probably lose by a bit but still put up a decent fight, our Euro would womp you, our US would do the same.

            Im not talking N3 Im talking NCDOT supers alone, add Nulli`s and its simply sick how many we have.

            NCDOT has a stronger presence than GSF in AUssie timezone it why they got orders not to fight us.

            PL god bless them doesnt have the Aussie TZ have.

            Your guys since begining of war have complained Foxcats win because you would drop blapping dreads but cant since PL`s super fleet would murder your entire fleet……So would ours, in any Timezone.

            Hell even PL has a strong TZ, our Euro and US is 50/50 and our Aussie is probably 50% as strong but compared to other teams Aussies we have the toughest bunch in Eve and Dark is a genious.

            Sorry man but one of NCDOT`s lesson`s we learned was cover all TZ`s, and we did. And it paid off, you would have been overwhelmed up north because you have 1active TZ in US, Ruski hasnt done its job. Goons would have trampled you with 15k more guys than HBC used lol

            Sorry but this is unbias.

            I still respect that AAA hasnt quit it showsalot ofguts, but in a straight up fight we have 0 fat and any inactives are kicked, so when you see 16-1800 we mean it.

            We get 140 men in both US+Euro TZ`s all with 50ish SCs logged ready and 15-20 Caps ready to drop and rep. Add Nulli and that number of Subs is doubled and supers upped by 1/3

            Aussie is 800-100 man with 30 SC`s and 10 caps

            Fact

            If we got Nexus and rifterArmy yu aredead fast with no bubblers, with Kadeshi 3 squad we win since its a different 20 man group you fighting, Pangu same thing.'

            Mad respect to AAA for sticing in there but you guys have 1 TZ, I finally saw Ruski TZ Hide by Not a hugeforce, actually AAA outnumbered them.

            You are a single sided alli, we have 3 TZ`s as equal as they get i eve.

            November 15, 2012 at 9:11 pm
          4. U know who

            Wasn't saying PL could beat CFC – was saying if PL was running the CFC blob – FCing and adjusting doctrines – you would have had a much harder time in Tribute. Comparatively, TEST by themselves would have been ground down by Nulli and -A- in short order.

            I'm still not sure why the need for bad blood from Nulli as it pertains to -A-. At the end of the day we showed up and tried to help against overwhelming odds. Evidently TEST may have been more verbally gracious to Nulli whilst taking their space….who knows.

            Whats done is done. -A- is still kicking and very much alive. Hopefully we've learned from our mistakes and -A- makes appropriate adjustments and moves on from there as a smarter, stonger and leaner alliance.

            But I do know one truth -A- will never submit to the blob mentality – it's simply not in our DNA.

            November 16, 2012 at 1:47 am
          5. Exversion

            Not even to snuff out the ones that created the blob mentality?

            just sayin. :P

            Vengeance can be a powerful force. Revenge even more so.

            November 16, 2012 at 1:56 am
      2. fail

        they lost 1 and kicked one

        November 14, 2012 at 4:36 am Reply
        1. U know who

          what are you talking about?

          November 15, 2012 at 5:12 pm Reply
      3. 15 Trillion Loss

        -A- already moved to NPC space and got kicked out of it again.

        Historically -A- was able to survive by remaining in Stain and waiting for whatever entity was attempting to hold Catch to fail/get bored/reset their former alies. Thats not likely to happen this time so I tend to agree that the English speaking parts of -A- will not be prepared to hang around this time. Eecially if it looks like N3 would be a better option.

        November 14, 2012 at 6:05 am Reply
        1. -.-

          So basicly you know nothing?
          AAA has moved back to NPC space, and then deployed somewhere else to wait for the 10 PL titans or what ewer it has been camping the station.

          I personally cant see ANY AAA corps joining the N3 coalition. Just because i think most AAA corps have way more backbone than Nulli. Single players might switch sides ofc tho.

          November 14, 2012 at 10:59 am Reply
          1. -A- FC

            Most -A- corps have been around and know what -A- stands for.

            What do the Bail coalition, , 'friendly to pl', and various goons pets stand for. I can tell you what they stand for: Absolutely nothing. Why would anyone want to join that mess? Join NC. who are blue to PL who lead all CTA test fleets? LOL.. No.

            They may say we exist to fight us, or 'gudfites' they know they cannot lose but where we won't engage?:

            Vince: -A- have a small roaming fleet out lets go camp a system for 2 hours and hope they come back and fight us!!… lol no.

            Shadoo: ' where is my cyno I want to drop on -A- roaming gang, what? they killed it?.. again.. WTF!!. well lets sit 100 battleships on a titan with no cyno for an hour after spending an hour to form up?

            We know what you have and what you are doing just as you guys do with us?

            Problem is -A- is off for R&R and fights we want to do and the whole of the south is a lovely wonderful warzone we can pick and choose targets in. Couldn't be happier with all these targets.

            So you guys are gonna have to find a new reason to exist after you came to blob 4:1 and found nothing but blue balls and other blues. Your fleet sizes are coming down and when you start getting down to 2:1 then 1:1, -A- will still be there, picking you all off one by one.

            November 14, 2012 at 11:07 pm
          2. anonymous

            "Vince: -A- have a small roaming fleet out lets go camp a system for 2 hours and hope they come back and fight us!!… lol no."
            Small roaming fleet you say? 70 people in tengus isn't a small roaming fleet but the best part is we waited maybe 40 mins and after losing 9 tengus to Red Alliance you came back and lost 12 more to us. http://northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_related&a… numbers are very messed up due to that being a system multiple fleets of ours constantly end up fighting each other Our fleet was ~87 people. Yours was approximately 60 but a lot don't show up on kms since your fleet only managed to kill 2 inties for obvious reasons.

            November 15, 2012 at 12:25 am
        2. -A- grunt

          I speak English, I'm not leaving -A-, I never used any of the sov anyway.

          November 14, 2012 at 8:43 pm Reply
        3. U know who

          I speak english ….I'm not leaving…..
          I find it funny when those that look at -A- through their own experiential lens always anticipate cascade.

          We are older players, most have alts with income sources, we're not bound to sov. We enjoy pew.
          It's a game, some of us actually like being the underdog with plenty of reds.
          Did we want that space…yep..it generated ISK .but we won't cascade over it. Can it be inconvienient…sometimes.

          I take immense joy knowing each day -A- lives drives Shadoo's frustration …..as they have completely lost their mind chasing us around EVE hellcamping empty NPC stations.

          November 15, 2012 at 5:09 pm Reply
        4. BntyHunter

          N3,

          Would take a US/Eru version of AAA if they were active, but thats the glue IMO.

          PVPers who like to kill shit who are very active who want to fight Blobs.

          I like US/Ero AAA TBH its the Rus block im not fond of, they are the ones who left ROL and the reason they cant hide there

          November 15, 2012 at 8:50 pm Reply
      4. Alwayslaughaha

        You have to wonder about corps like macabre votum and hirr who are relatively new and large english speaking groups which may not like how the Russian members of AAA have handled the war. They may move on to greener pastures.

        November 14, 2012 at 6:37 am Reply
      5. NullSecHoBo

        And also lets not discount the power of the alliance culture. We may make fun of them but there is something more than the desire to shoot someone that holds an entity like -A- together.

        You don't have that in N3 (although you have that within entities in N3, like Nulli). They'll need to go through a couple of reformations before they can get to the resilience of -A-.

        November 14, 2012 at 2:06 pm Reply
        1. BntyHunter

          N3 wasnt IMO made to be a AAA or CFC, but a group a true PVPers who like to fight.

          A way looser coalition than people try to say it is.

          More like a Confederation with same goals in mind, fighting. Also IMo there is no head just the powerful ones and the smalle ones and the newer ones.

          I say N3 to make it shorter than saying NCDOT+Nulli+Nexus+Pangu+Kadeshi+Twats etc

          November 15, 2012 at 8:45 pm Reply
          1. maru

            Well, maybe this is how NCDOT looks at it, but considering that they decided to opt out of the economic union that the rest of N3 is forming, that's not surprising.

            November 16, 2012 at 1:25 am
          2. Exversion

            I'm interested in this "economic union" you mention. Would love to hear more about it.

            November 16, 2012 at 1:42 am
      6. U know who

        -A- wont have to contest sov with N3 (the Spina Bifada coalition) we will have to deal with N3 / HBC / PL and if needed (as it was in delve) CFC thrown in for good measure.

        While I applaud your tenacity in trying to portray N3 as something other than a "soft blue" with HBC, the facts are simply the facts. FC's communicating to get "gudfights" is nothing more than sport between friends. -A- and Stain Empire did it frequently in years past. At the end of the day a NIP is a NIP added to what more recently appears to be cooperation in sov warfare –

        Nulli is now working with / for TEST – Increasing of the volume and frequency of your denials, whilst tossing in a "gudfight" BR isn't going to change the reality of the relationship. While you may not "love Monti" your putting out for him.

        I'm just astonished by what seems a desperate need for Nulli and friends to rationalize the relationship – Nulli would be better of just accepting they've become a honorary members of the HBC and move on…..it's not like that path isn't well worn.

        November 14, 2012 at 7:49 pm Reply
        1. Exversion

          You are basing your accusations on a time frame. Or perhaps "lack of" time frame.

          N3 was just established. N3 is currently flipping sov to establish their foothold in the south. N3, tho powerful, are in an extremely vulnerable state. It's the birth of a Coalition.

          Light blue while obtaining your sov and organizing your logistics is not so far fetched. But who are we to say this coalition will not reset the world once they have obtained the peak of their organization?

          It's simply smart to rub elbows with your neighbors when you're moving in. Especially when you're taking over the space of an enemy to those neighbors.

          My predictions: (Take them with a grain of salt)

          N3 establishes itself in Immensea, Tenerefis, Omist, Partial Detorid.
          N3 continues their attacks on Solar and the Drone Coalition to the East.
          HBC continues their attacks on -A- and the Drone Coalition to the East.
          The NCC moves East into the previously owned Solar area
          N3 expands to the east taking all of Detorid

          Now comes the fork in the road.

          If the HBC acts upon the rumors of attacking the CFC, then N3 will attack the CFC alongside HBC
          If the HBC continues their pact with CFC and no war is established, Catch will become the warzone and N3 vs HBC for the Sov of Catch will happen.
          During this, the NCC may open a war towards the north and attack the CFC and the smaller alliances in the Geminate area.

          Fortune Telling is fun!!!

          November 14, 2012 at 7:58 pm Reply
          1. U know who

            Whatever the path …it all leads to Monti's open zipper.

            November 15, 2012 at 6:21 pm
        2. Former SoCo Pet

          -a- is the fat short redhead on the playground. He doesn't have friends, just people whom he sometimes drops nasty bugs on or throws their lunch in the dirt.

          November 15, 2012 at 1:48 am Reply
          1. U know who

            Here's your lunch back bro….we good now?

            November 15, 2012 at 6:20 pm
        3. BntyHunter

          Dude how can you deny that we hate CSF?, we were fighting them because we wouldnt be pets and heard they planned to pick a fight the "Goons way" and make it lok like we caused it and broke our word…..Did we bow? Nope Did we plead and try to tal it out ? HELL NO, they are sharks who wanted our 40 moons and were gonna grab them no matter what, dress it any way you like but Mittens Romney wanted more Tec and needed more for his huge appetite so he was gonna have a spy do something stupid and cause a war, so we pre-empted them and just honestly caused it.

          You have no Idea the wealth you turned down, including killind Xdeath who was promised your land, now that you have no one in there way it will come when your weakest. IRC will have to come with there Homies from N3, but you will lose it all, instead of being richer than god and out spending HBC 10 to 1. See CFC isRich but Goons wil never let there neighbrs become truly powerful, they are like switzerland everyone owes rhem , so no one will attack them, and those that dont owe are small and cant fight those that di.

          Solar missed out on 200 [email protected]* bil a pop and 50 Renters at 5 bil a pop with great Tenal/Venal land some of best ratting there is, also they would have domne all your work for you on your moons by shipping it reacting it and building seeding armies of ships, including super galore.

          GSF was soft and would have folded if matched by numbers and they were matched by us a little 3.5k coalition, you have 3.5k Renters who show up lol. Ontop of it we were fighting 2 wars.

          When they come or dont to help just like right now "Ruski affairs are like landmines etc etc" mittens said basically he meants he will stay out until you are so weak from N3 and HBC you will call in IRC for help then they will attack IRC and take there apace, then tell IRC you can join us and keep your SOV or flip sides and you wont have to do anything except not fightAnd let us use logistics.

          Bricks will be offered similiar deal, Hold and keep Gem, dont figh on eitherside but NAP us during war and let them use JB`s. In return they keep SOV a few stations like BWD and keep Tec Moons in Gem.

          Then they unleash Xdeath who wants its space they see as you took, and Unleash a very lone survivor o strong razor who has been waiting to kill the DRF who is the last piece of the guys who wrecked there kingdom.

          Thats how Goons will "Stay out of it" Lol They are billiant, they will say "Sorry Solar we dont have pets they made there own minds up"

          Instead of helping out and beating GSF with SOLARS numbers and then having AAA accuse us of being CFC pets, you could have backed us in Tribute when we were doing great, then bam another 400-700 on reguar Ops making it 1 vs 1 and GSF would have folded like a house of cards. You would have taken 80ish stations 200 ish systems and having 150-200 Moons where I explain, they make 8 Bil or 12 Buk processed. Bulk of podt go shut down here`s high lights.

          50 renters paying 5 bil+8 Bil from Tec [essentially you get fronted money for Tech you dont mine for and a discount on ships, esp Supers]

          -Kill Xdeath
          -Kill GSF and save IRC[ who was fighting them as well]
          -Save Eve from this wierd Nip thast really a Nap with anything "strategic" lol meaning ask whats ok to shoot like killing a cyno for a buddy.
          -Have more ISK than God, so it means you match numbers with HBC, but, instead of PL only using Foxcats and no losing them. You would have 400+ Foxcats vs 100 all of old SOCO never would have left so also on the field every Drake=Tengu, and 150 Supers a Month are made, you could have taken all of them in 1 month.

          Literally 4x there own Fleet agaisnt them but where you have 400 Fox`s, they have 400 drakes to support there 100 fox`s yu have 400-600 Tengu`s lol and now Supers= NCDOT+Nulli+New ruch AAA/SOLAR=150 brand new supers and you are 3 to 1 outnumbering them.

          So you made bad choices guys/

          November 15, 2012 at 10:08 am Reply
          1. War Observer

            You are so greedy you could never understand why Solar attacked you instead of Goons. You think it is all about ISK, and if they had same mindset too they would indeed attack goons. But this not way MASTER thinks, he wants what he thinks belongs to him, what you opportunistically took from him when he was fighting Xdeath, PL and RA . He wants Geminate. He attacked you because he knows he can't trust you, and he wants what he thinks belongs to him back.

            Now that has good and bad points. He is right that you can't be trusted, you are oppressed with ISK, and will back stab anyone or whore out to anyone to get it. Just as you backstabed Raiden. and Black Legion and how you whored out to Goons. Now bad part of MASTER's approach is that as bad as you are you are still lesser evil compared to goons. If keeping you alive means destroying goons I think MASTER should have forgone Geminate and go with you against goons, but he did not , and I can understand why even if I think it was a very wrong decision.

            November 15, 2012 at 3:50 pm
          2. Considering that NC. backstabbed every coalition they were in, Solar NOT aligning with them makes perfect sense. Similarly, NC. announcing that they are not leading the N3 coalition, but S2N is, fits in line with this. Can't backstab when you're the one in charge.

            November 15, 2012 at 7:23 pm
          3. BntyHunter

            Lol wait please list them, I love this part.

            November 15, 2012 at 7:53 pm
          4. BntyHunter

            BTW you can backstab anytime you want you tool…..Lol its like saying PL cant backstab from its place in HBC, Wow the dumb on you smells strong.

            Lol it had nothing to do with Nulli being "Head of Coalition" which they arent, it was just there idea to start oneand we backed them.

            As far as NCDOT we have so many groups beating down our doors to bein alliance its crazy. No one does that if you are known as backstabbers.

            You are either a newb and was in HiSec and read what you had available such a carebear you dont understand "Temp Blue", in one of the enemy groups reading the propaganda and drinkng the coolaid or all of the above.

            Since you obviusly have no idea what you talking about, we tell people we invade with, we will set you blue but just like PL, Gypsy, Evoke before they pulled [a true backstabb] Cry Havoc before etc.

            We send them mails that hey have a 48 hour period to evac stuff once our Blue list is done, in tons of cases we allow even longer, we do this so 00 sec doesnt turn into hand holding online.

            We have always made sure our long term friends were totally like minded, we arent Goons who once we set blue they are blue for life. But give perfectly huge amount of time to let them know and change there positions,

            Also waiting for list of "Backstabbed Allies"

            Are you gonna try Raiden? A cicil war that was so backstabbed by us the exec corps joined us…Lol
            Maybe Evoke? Guys who for 8 years was our friends, then during a war decided to sell there Moons to our enemies instead of giving them to us, like we used to do.

            Come on bring it on, BL lol if you mention BL a group who left peacefully on there own in which a ran cap jump runs for some of my buddies to move there ships, yeah we sure hammered them, I used my Fuel to move there ships.

            You want real actual accounts I was Cry Havoc and a Dom/Tri ally for 3+ Years and we did nothing but kill and move together, it was us and Evoke and we never ever were known for screwing people over in CH, so how all the sudden does NCDOT do it?

            Answer is propaganda, and the only fault with my alliance is they dont care tat people like you who are ignorant of the facts keep repeating untruths until another guy on here gets it ingrained into his mind, we back stab and doesnt know why.

            Lol this will be good.

            November 15, 2012 at 7:55 pm
          5. BntyHunter

            Yeah we are so greedy thats why we chose to fight Goons rather than be pets….

            Also its funny you are such a carebear yo take fighting to serious butthurt land. Its so simple you attacked PL moons, We are Allies, so we attacked back, because regardless of what cheese dick says we do honor our agreements to Alli`s and friends.

            We fought and beat you back and you still hold a grudge.

            We dont care about ISK tool or we would have licked GSF`s boots, and they would have wanted us as a Pitbull on a leash as we really are tough. Nope we wouldnt do it.

            Lol how did we backstab BL? Lol they left we let them? We wished them good luck, it was a stupid fight between 2 leaders not an alliance dispute, you seem dumber by the second, hell even the guys who say "cause a falcon" are smarter than you.

            And we backstabbed Raiden so badly there 2 main Corps came to us and wanted in instantly.
            Fact is they had internal war, half wanted into NCDOT, so we took them and that was a backstab?

            Solar now because of this type of non sense allowed real backstabbers like Xdeath to now have no buffer zone from them to Geminate/Drone lands, you allowed IRC to know be on there own vs Goons.

            All for no reason. You brought Goons in and helped them beat us by starting 2 wars an instead of helpingyou what are they doing?

            "We are staying out of this fight" meaning they are leaving you with no support and Xdeath whom they have promised will get there lnd back will attack you soon, and RZR whome hates you seeing as you are last DRF member to not Suffer feels you owe them suffering time also.

            So instead of being Kings of Eve, you wil wind up losing 80% of your guys to Xdeath and RA who will own Dronelands by this time next year.

            Sad part is we sre so untrustworthy……IRC got over it and once they flew with us realised we can be trusted and even though we fought you [SOLAR] we kept them blue, and could have backstabbed themfor real and decimated there military and TBH made a Deal with Goons to server up IRC on a platter, its pretty clear who would win in a fight with IRC vs NCDOT. Nope we stil have channels to use to fly with IRC guys.

            IRC knew it was right move to side with us, Gypsy knew, hell everyone knew except you, and its why you and AAA are alone now with HBC coming to kil you N3/ us that you fought when we were already fighting goons, and Goons who announced they will sit backandwatch so when you do fail lose all your SOV good old Daddy goons wil say "dont worry Mctep we will get you land back, just trust in us here take 5-10 moons to keep you aloat and oh yeah fight for s when ever we need you to."

            They will ask you to throw IRC under the bus and you probably will be so desperate you will, thinking someday you will come back, and you might just like Xdeath 2 years later, all while being Goonie bitches.

            Yeah your leader made a great call.

            I didnt think anything was about ISK I think "Master as you call him" which is scary is an idiot. He could have helped IRC by once and for all killing Goons and not doing much except forming fleets 1 time a week when we were way outnumbered, Then it would have help`d AAA a ton as well, no more Help from CFC the HBC would have gotten.

            So you could have saved AAA and IRC, prevented XDEATH from coming closer to the land they consider theres and all while yes you would have tripled your wealth…..Whats wrongwith that?

            Instead it was you who backstabbed friends by letting Goons live to kill them after you are gone.

            Gypsy was so disgusted with what you guys did they left you. You BECAME GOON PETS and when Goons was finished with you, they threw you away like a hooker.

            Great Job, Goons has literally screwed over every alliance in the game, and you picked us? Didnt you realize it would be easier to fight us later than Goons? WHo has as much as God?

            Master is so dumb m scared for your whole Bloclk, he killed IRC who is now cut of and alone, AAA is gone and all because they HELPED GOONS, there is no ay to dress it up.

            November 15, 2012 at 8:24 pm
      7. BntyHunter

        I to admire AAA for sticking around and not bailing as an alliance, it shows good leadership in a way.

        When guys lose SOV the feeling of panick is like a poison and unless stopped right off spreads like wildfire.

        As much as I hated the whole "We dont owe anyone anything" I did love how calm and contained the leader was, and how he spoke truth about things coming and going in Eve , and how AAA has been over this drill almost every year.

        You have to admire a group of guys who lose every year badly all there SOV and come back every single time 3 months later and fight and get it back, I know I do, its amazing TBH, with most carebears being so addicted nowdays to SOV, it proves alot.

        That said Nulli was not weakened either by there SOV loss, infact it was the best thing in the world for them TBH, they came north and became great friends with a true PVP powerhouse in Eve, who is only matched by 1 entity player to player in the game basically and thats PL.

        Nulli left/lost when they were treated as a pet and came back as one of the bossmen with a hardcore enforcer as there best mates….I respect both Nulli and AAA for that, most would have crumbled, both of them didn't. 1 does it every year which is amazing and 1 did it and came back way way tougher and with way tougher allies.

        Either way both amazing feats in Eve.

        As a NCDOT pilot I can tell you Nulli is the partners we have been looking for since Evoke kind of fell off the map a year ago, and I would love BL to someday come back as well. Probably wont happen while wick is with Elo but who knows.

        November 15, 2012 at 1:25 am Reply
  11. We was in south regions yesterday. After tasks completion we found a system with a nice local. As we prefer to maintain neutral standings to everyone, we asked Nulli if they want to make some pew-pew. They gladly broadcasted and gather some nice fleet with triage chimera. Even being outnumbered, we engaged and eventually died :p
    It could be a very nice fight, but the grid was very fu, blame to CCP.

    It was just a fun pew-pew, no politics. Without blue loving we are not creating more pvp deserts and still can work towards our primary goals. This is a major advantage of our coalition from my opinion. http://kb.serpent.is/battle/b5519/

    Medusa.

    November 14, 2012 at 6:57 am Reply
    1. Ganimoth

      It was nice and enjoyable battle, not too small but not that big, so exactly to my liking :). Thx for coming, hope you enjoyed some fun too, maybe you win next time, who knows :).

      November 14, 2012 at 9:54 am Reply
  12. Hunter

    One day, someone wil bring in caps, eventually supers. On that day, the "we are for goodfites" attitudes will vanish.

    November 14, 2012 at 6:59 am Reply
  13. -.-

    So this brawl should assure everyone that HBC and N3 is not working together?
    As long as you are not taking eatch others sov, but are fighting same enemyes, noone with a half a brain will believe you guys are not one way or another HBC pets.

    This was quite funny attempt to make it look like N3 and HBC are not friendly.

    November 14, 2012 at 10:51 am Reply
  14. -A- is DEAD?

    Most comments sound really stupid, we are all so big friends and we dont need blue standings against the ultimate evil in the eve universe. But, mission accomplished… -A- is dead since some years according to the most ppl, but u still see use as the big evil we are. Have a nice time with your arranged fight, it will not last forever!!!!! See later all u BFF.

    November 14, 2012 at 12:17 pm Reply
    1. NullSecHoBo

      Irrelevant post is irrelevant.

      November 14, 2012 at 2:04 pm Reply
    2. Nulli-bro

      I remember a guy from IT said something similar a year or two ago.

      November 14, 2012 at 4:15 pm Reply
  15. Renan Ruivo

    I love being an HBC pet :)

    November 14, 2012 at 1:44 pm Reply
    1. Nulli-bro

      I like hearing 80s music when I log on TS.

      November 14, 2012 at 4:17 pm Reply
      1. Renan Ruivo

        That needs to happen more often.

        November 14, 2012 at 5:10 pm Reply
  16. NullSecHoBo

    Yes, because those guys actually give a shit about what you and I think.

    November 14, 2012 at 2:06 pm Reply
    1. U know who

      12 stages of monti

      1) denial – we're not pets of HBC
      2) anger – I dont give a fuck if you think we're pets…

      Weclome to stage 2

      November 15, 2012 at 6:33 pm Reply
  17. Zar Alex

    I also think, -A- is history.

    PL learned from the past. They will not let -A- reconquer the regions around Stain as eays as last year, when -A- just added hirr/MV and formed a coalition with Solar and Gypsy Kings to suddenly outnumber PL. Now some corps in -A- have to start learning finally or they will end like dinosaurs. May the English corps hirr and MV recognize this before it is too late for them and they turn into bitter vets and an empty shell of formerly very active corps with a long history of great battles and FCs.

    November 14, 2012 at 2:27 pm Reply
  18. The Observer

    There's no mystery here. N3's goal is to attack Solar/-A- and gain space in the Tenerefis/Omist area. In this, they are joined by Gypsy/Gorgon/RA. HBC just happens to be shooting the same people. N3 and HBC regularly shoot each other for fun. There may be some sort of temporary formal or more likely informal NIP agreement but from what I know of Nulli there's not a chance this is them formally joining up with the HBC coalition

    November 14, 2012 at 8:06 pm Reply
    1. Random Grunt

      Ok so why is it that every big timer, that has come up in Insmother recently, Test and PL show up to fight with N3 and friends??? Answer= N3 called them. The way I see it is NC. , while being a really good alliance, bitched about CFC blobing them in the north during the whole campaign. Yes they did really well against those odds but they still bitched about it. Now when they are fighting a smaller group such as Solar and friends they are the ones blobbing to win. You have lost a lot of respect in my eyes.

      November 15, 2012 at 6:03 am Reply
      1. lolwhat?

        NC. shat on solar by themselves prior to the war with CFC.
        solar decided to open up a second front on NC. while they were fighting CFC.
        who do you honestly thing NC. was going to go after following the loss of trib? lool… seriously.

        November 15, 2012 at 7:13 am Reply
        1. Guy

          Funny thing is that ncdot seems to have made a deal with the CFC for geminate tech moons.

          November 15, 2012 at 7:42 am Reply
    2. U know who

      I'm only informally fucking your wife…so she's not really cheating on you….

      Hmmm…..Logic doesn't play there either chief….

      November 15, 2012 at 6:17 pm Reply
  19. BntyHunter

    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=14493

    Isnt this some affiliation? Outnumbered, and still 35 kills to 7? Seems like they doing ok.

    Maybe im off on exact teams though.

    Also http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&…
    Include adjacent and they spanked em pretty hard.

    We looking forward to more good fights.

    November 15, 2012 at 1:13 am Reply
  20. NC. dude

    wow who is that "BntyHunter" guy ?

    November 16, 2012 at 12:30 pm Reply
  21. -A- FC

    So last night NC. tech tower came out of reinforced in Geminate and had 300 guys to stop -A- and our allies, around 200 guys take the tower down. We hit it to see if we could get a fight and see what would happen.

    They had 300 man napoc fleet and 100 nulli rokhs on the way. We had 150 Nagas and other some other ships, so we would have died horribly but we were willing to do it for amusement.

    What happened? NC. batphoned EVERYONE and no not just the bail coalition.

    We found this highly amusing and ping ponged about, as we tried to engage at one point over 600 people (4:1 again it seems to be they can't bring less without losing).

    NC. are incapable of fighting on their own, we understand this not an issue, what we realised is that NC. had batphoned PL test and goons as well as their whole coalition. To boot all of them brought just about every pet they could drag along including raiden. and Init.

    When the area after tidi hit 10% we left.. they were incapable of catching us (warping directly into our catch bubbles lol). We lead the blobs into each other and friendly fire commenced. We tried using this to our advantage and jumped into Atioth to pick some off and have a bit of a 2-3 way, but they immediately all primaried our FC so we left again.

    Sad thing is if they had been in any way subtle they could have killed us all with tactics, rather then fail to kill us all with a blob and prevented any real fight or even a killing spree for their own guys. I mean if you really hate us.. don't you want to maybe.. kill our ships or show us where the bad -A- touched you? The whole deny your own fight and hate thing is pretty much fully in 'jilted turned stalker' territory.

    It was clear they were only really there to help NC. save their Tech tower they could have easily saved alone. It was quite funny to see NC. get out quick and leave Nulli to get wiped out by their Test friends. It was allot of fun we will keep doing it! Next time lots of timers!

    It is clear now that we need to keep hitting all timers we can, so we can watch them all come scurrying up north and bluing each other up/ yelling don't shoot reds and neuts and shoot that blue for 'gudfites', whilst having friendly fire on pet v pet with their hysterically badly organised blobs of retards and hangers on.

    November 18, 2012 at 7:38 pm Reply
    1. anonymous

      Let me point out some flaws in what you just said. First off we had 180 in our Navy Apoc fleet not nearly 300. We showed up in your home system konora and sat on your station for awhile where you wouldn't fight us and whend you undocked lost 10+ ships and then ran to a tower. Your 150 man naga fleet also had another 120 man solar pets naga fleet in the area. Second we did not primary your fc. You idiots decided it would be a good idea to jump nagas into a navy apoc fleet sitting on the gate and we killed as many as we could as you crashed the gate to run away.

      Also that tower we needed "everyones help" to save was saved solely by us. When we cyno'd into the system you promptly ran away like cowards. Nulli and Test fought it out in Atioth in the mean time which we eventually showed up to and fought the Goon tornado fleet and the solar pet tornado fleet which both landed on grid and tried shooting us together.

      On another note we didn't leave Nulli to die to test. Nulli asked us to let them fight alone so we said ok and let them fight it out killing off goons and solar pets as they warped their tornado fleets in to fight.

      November 18, 2012 at 9:04 pm Reply
    2. Guy

      NC has actually been struggling a lot as an individual alliance so I'm really doubtful about whether they could have actually done it by themselves. They had a tech tower coming out of RF the other day but failed to formup a fleet for a 30 man brick bomber gang, which wasn't a good sign.

      November 18, 2012 at 9:07 pm Reply
      1. anonymous

        Show me this tech tower please considering the only tower losses I see have been to goons. If it was tech we would have formed for it if it was a normal tower and you were shooting it with bombers why bother you'll just cloak and leave.

        November 18, 2012 at 9:13 pm Reply
        1. Guy

          It was coming out of RF on the defensive side. Ncdot failed to formup to finish it off after putting it in RF.

          November 19, 2012 at 7:05 am Reply
      2. Soap McTaggish

        any alliance with Pilious in it as a member is doomed to failure…

        November 18, 2012 at 11:16 pm Reply
    3. anon

      sorry everyone hates you -A-…. come to ckx whenever you want a fight.

      WARNING: this will require you to undock

      December 1, 2012 at 9:34 am Reply
  22. -A- eng pilot

    -A- corps moving to N3? N3 has no spine. They are now using "silent support" of HBC who drove them out of their home and claiming how they are doing it on themselves.

    For N3 it is not about "we conquer what we want" but "we counquer what HBC does't want".

    November 19, 2012 at 7:40 pm Reply
  23. guest

    NCdot's only effective purpose has been to dislodge others or soften up space then surrender to the goons. Rinse and repeat.

    November 21, 2012 at 6:46 am Reply

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