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Well, this was long overdue – after taking a week off we are back with a fresh look and a well deserved rest. I hope you like the new theme which is based on The Verge website look, I have to mention this is not the “final” look for EN24, I’ll keep tweaking it as I see it fit and eventually the site will end up looking differently “unique” while maintaining the same functionality. Please understand any technical glitches which might appear in the coming days.

This said, pending is to push the recent comment into the front page and work out the advertising thing (might end up dropping some banners). Anyhow, I hope you like the new look and the increased stream of Eve Online news.

I would also appreciate any feedback to make this new look work. I am also working on a mobile theme, finally!.

– R

83 Comments

  1. Mittens4everyone

    First , Mittins is poop

    October 29, 2012 at 2:45 am Reply
    1. I think just for once, the fact you're first is forgiven. Shittani is indeed poop.

      October 29, 2012 at 7:46 am Reply
  2. old timer

    congrats en24 crew !

    October 29, 2012 at 2:47 am Reply
  3. leetnessmonster

    Glad to see you're still alive and kicking

    I starting thinking "Wow if Riv is dead… where am I gonna get my news"

    I still think you should start a EVE corp of newscasters/reporters to report on news so that the news will keep rolling on, and allow you to sit back and approve/change/trash any news your "guys on the scene" get

    Creating news and game content at the same time= Win for everyone 😀

    PS: Still prefer the old site look though

    October 29, 2012 at 2:48 am Reply
  4. Solar ally

    Sexy new layput riverini welcome back!

    October 29, 2012 at 2:58 am Reply
    1. Solar ally

      Layout* damn iphone:P

      October 29, 2012 at 2:59 am Reply
  5. The_Oracle86

    gj riv, the hardwork has paid off, i think the new site looks great.

    October 29, 2012 at 3:05 am Reply
  6. Thumbs up

    Great job man. Like forward progress.

    October 29, 2012 at 3:13 am Reply
  7. Eh...

    It looks more attractive but it's very hard to read. Work on making the titles of the articles more legible.

    October 29, 2012 at 3:21 am Reply
    1. I will add a good background to allow a better hierarchy, designing it as we speak. Please keep throwing feedback into the comments, it is always appreciated.

      October 29, 2012 at 3:27 am Reply
  8. zarian uphius

    I think its impossible to read and looks ugly. The old theme was 10x easier to read.

    Sorry

    October 29, 2012 at 3:23 am Reply
    1. meh

      Agreed…

      Not being able to see a timeline of what was posted when is just bad design. It's just a mass of stories splooged onto the screen.

      October 29, 2012 at 4:45 am Reply
      1. gizzy

        Can we please have the stories in some kind of order, having them out of chronological order spread across the page is horrid to find out which ones are NEW.

        October 29, 2012 at 4:50 am Reply
  9. ...

    Basically what I'm saying is that I don't like change.

    October 29, 2012 at 3:29 am Reply
    1. Yeah, that's fine, although there are a few advantages of this new theme.

      – I can show 25 stories in the front page instead of 15, which means the lifespan of a thread is extended.
      – Scrapping the old theme allows me to integrate a much needed mobile theme.
      – this one should load faster.

      I have also toyed with the idea of switching from Intense Debate to either LiveFyre or Disqus, but that's for future consideration.

      October 29, 2012 at 3:32 am Reply
      1. leetnessmonster

        -15 stories on 1 page was enough, if people want to read more they just click the "older post" link in case they missed anything.
        -Also I don't know about anyone else but I only go on eve24 when I'm at home on my desk top, or at work at a desktop, its meant for a relaxing read when nothings going on.
        -And loading wasn't a issue, at least not for me

        And yeah keep intense since most people that bothered to set up accounts did it just for this site anyways

        Overall if I woke up tomorrow and say the old site layout returned, I wouldn't complain at all

        October 29, 2012 at 7:55 am Reply
    2. Orel

      Please remove the tiles crap on top or at least switch it to the bottom of the page. Chronological order is where it’s at.

      The new site is somewhat harder to read, but I can’t place my finger on why…. but I get a nice “vibe” from it as well. Keep it and tweak it, lets see where we end up.

      Really, remove the tiles.

      October 29, 2012 at 8:12 pm Reply
  10. anonymous

    Make the stories more distinctive it is painful to look at. Other than that welcome back.

    October 29, 2012 at 3:35 am Reply
  11. NullSecHoBo

    The look is great and refreshing. I like the color scheme and the sharp presentation for the whole thing!

    Just a couple of things that I hope you'll consider constructive feedback:
    – The top mashup in squares looks nice (kinda like Windows 8) but is hard to read. You can even get rid of it.
    – The three columns make it confusing because: a) we don't know which comes before which intuitively – it's not a good thing if I have to look at each timestamp.. and b) there is no ordering of importance – they are all the same size. Maybe you can number them somewhere (in circle at bottom right?) as 1 to 25 with 1 being the latest story, and it going chronologically?

    If you want to fit more stories, I'd say that you highlight the top 10, and then you can have inlined stories for the next 40 or something – no boxes, just a line for each with a timestamp.

    All in all, nice work.

    October 29, 2012 at 3:58 am Reply
  12. Trel

    I like the idea behind the theme. Some opinionated suggestions though:

    – Fix the font on the "Popular Stories" or whatever you'd like to call the ones up top in the colored panels. It's a bit hard to read and is looks stretched out. As are some of the background images.
    – The comment counters would probably look less awkward down in the right corner of each panel.
    – Make it so featured articles don't show up when you get to the normal articles. You'll get more articles on the page and it's a bit more convenient for the readers.
    – The colored panels themselves contrast very badly with the rest of the Black/White theme going on. I'd honestly like the whole page better without the colored panels for high lights. Or just make them less vibrant.
    – A convenient dev blog tracker would make this more of a one stop news site as well.

    October 29, 2012 at 4:05 am Reply
    1. Thanks for your feedback, will add this to my Evernote scheduler.

      October 29, 2012 at 4:08 am Reply
  13. BobFromMarketing

    The "popular" part is a bit of an eyesore but the lower end of the page is a large improvement.

    October 29, 2012 at 4:42 am Reply
  14. Interested

    While I like that you are trying to update I feel that a few things could be refined a bit

    – Ditch the "top stories" it's just messy
    – Organize the columns, Perhaps "Dev blogs" "Top Stories" "Blogs" With some kind of header to tell someone what they are looking at
    – I don't understand the drop down over Live feeds on the main page? seems like a better place for that would be on the live feeds page and would make it easier to click the links under it.
    – I Personally Enjoyed your "battle summery" at the bottom of a battle report I encourage you not to give up on that

    October 29, 2012 at 5:52 am Reply
    1. The thing with the top stories is that I will pour in a stream of "lesser" relevant news and blog posts which will add up to the site without losing our focus from the core-content (which will stay up in the top stories)

      Since I'll be featuring discussion / popular threads more often, having these top stories will prove useful in keeping that content in the front page while being able to put out more content without having it pushing the top stories down, which happened to be a serious short coming of the blog-roll styled setup the old theme had.

      October 29, 2012 at 5:57 am Reply
      1. Interested

        You could just as easily dedicate a Column to that Three columns like you have now, one be all your "top news" one can be "blogs" then the third lesser stories and what have you. but then again perhaps i miss the simple organization of it all.

        October 29, 2012 at 6:04 am Reply
  15. Yimo

    Please go back to the old look…. This looks like the new WIndows 8 (that sucks aswell)

    October 29, 2012 at 6:05 am Reply
  16. ITS BAD

    PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK I DONT LIKE IT. THE OLD ONE WAS WAY BETTER. THIS IS JUST LIKE XBOX 360 DASHBOARD AKA WORTHLESS. THANKS

    October 29, 2012 at 6:20 am Reply
    1. I set the home page option as a blog roll, let me know how does that look for you.

      You might want to refresh the home (i use firefox for cache flush/testing and chrome for main browsing) – please make sure to give me feedback.

      October 29, 2012 at 6:30 am Reply
      1. MUCH BETTER

        OK WOW WOW MUCH BETTER THANKS

        October 29, 2012 at 2:40 pm Reply
  17. MWD

    Dear god this is worse than facebook timelines.

    October 29, 2012 at 6:24 am Reply
  18. Interested

    I like the blog roll much better gives a better since of what is new and old news. still hate the cluster fuck at the top, but improvements are improvements

    October 29, 2012 at 6:42 am Reply
    1. Interested

      Also, under the "top stories" it says "Write for Eve News24. Shot us an e-mail!" Do you mean shoot?

      October 29, 2012 at 6:44 am Reply
      1. Fixed, thanks! I'll keep the blog-roll mode around for the time being, I still like the cascade mode better. Will experiment with it during the week.

        October 29, 2012 at 6:47 am Reply
  19. Lugalbandak

    Glad you not dead , site is looking good.

    October 29, 2012 at 7:04 am Reply
  20. Alifikduzimir

    Gladly EN24 isn't dead. Now you really should try to improve the quality of the journalism, Riv. The problem currently is that with only two major news sites, one being better written but in essence a CFC propaganda machine, the other an anti-CFC outlet with lesser quality, people tend to attribute greater verisimilitude to the former. That's going in favor of Mittens "controlling the narrative". The only way to counteract this imbalance is to make better, more credible and less biased journalism.

    October 29, 2012 at 7:18 am Reply
    1. The thing is am not a journalist, neither I serve "x" or "y" coalition / alliance. Am just a guy who does this a a hobby, a hobby which comes out quite naturally. Real journalist are always welcome aboard, my email is all over the website so if you want to contribute, feel free to contact me.

      October 29, 2012 at 7:23 am Reply
      1. Alifikduzimir

        You seem to be the only one thinking you are not anti-CFC (and tbh, who could blame you for it…), but that's not how you counterbalance TM. And btw, the people running TM are also not professional journalists AFAIK… They are pro at deleting critical comments, however.

        October 29, 2012 at 9:48 am Reply
        1. Nem

          ^this. Right now this and TM are the only two eve news sites with any real following. You can't report every victory of your own coalition while relegating your defeats to footnotes or 'open threads' (such as BL leaving dotbros, tribute falling) and shutting out battle reports from your opponents' perspective and expect to be taken seriously when you call yourself objective.

          At least TM still reports CFC's defeats the same way it does it's victories, though they are just as guilty as this site for posting "critiques" of their opponents' statements while publishing their own without comment.

          October 29, 2012 at 12:25 pm Reply
          1. lol

            CFC defeats/NCdot victories are actually interesting, killing huge goon fleets outnumbered 3:1 is interesting. Killing shitloads of Goon SC is interesting. Solar welping constantly to NCdot is interesting. Goons shooting an Ihub is not interesting, one post about taking tribute is enough. People want interesting news, Goons are not interesting except in defeat.

            October 29, 2012 at 11:27 pm
      2. Flying spaceships

        Looks good, well done!!

        October 29, 2012 at 10:14 am Reply
      3. Jarod

        Mira, esto esta fantástico! Me gusta mucho! Adelante, siempre! xD

        October 29, 2012 at 12:55 pm Reply
      4. looks like someone borrowed some design points from "the other site"

        but … yeah ok

        October 29, 2012 at 4:39 pm Reply
    2. lol

      Nobody reads mittens site except goons and goon pets.

      It is really bad and full of goon sperg and no actual factual battlereports or interesting things of any kind.

      October 29, 2012 at 8:19 pm Reply
  21. Thief

    "I hope you like the new theme which is based on The Verge website look"

    In a literal sense!

    October 29, 2012 at 8:54 am Reply
    1. a_user

      "based on the verge website look"

      stolen shamelessly

      October 29, 2012 at 2:28 pm Reply
  22. The big tiles on the homepage could be a bit more transparent so you can see the image behind easier.

    Overall I like it though :)

    October 29, 2012 at 9:12 am Reply
  23. Gumpin

    this is literally the gayest shit since the MSN website i've ever seen

    October 29, 2012 at 9:12 am Reply
    1. Gumpin

      Down votes? You wankers want srs crit? kay.

      The resolution of the font is horrible and it looks like something from 1991 when you get to around 20 point or larger font size. This also extends to some of the previous layout's images that have been recycled.

      For a personal page making the background White is about as safe, nonthreatening, and boring design choice you could do, and is why corporate news sites do it. It doesn't offend anyone and doesn't block anything.

      Half the article pictures in Alliance sub groups(?) are broken.

      You still need a full time proof reader.

      But, yes, it does load faster.

      October 29, 2012 at 9:59 am Reply
      1. Gumpin

        if I hit -20 i'll MS paint a better site.

        October 29, 2012 at 7:26 pm Reply
        1. Gumpin
          October 29, 2012 at 10:57 pm Reply
        2. Gumpin

          oh hell naw that first post didn't get deleted.

          http://i.imgur.com/gfwuI.jpg

          October 29, 2012 at 11:14 pm Reply
          1. Atacdad

            ROFL

            October 30, 2012 at 2:37 pm
          2. Smiling Joe

            Don't like it, don't visit. Tahdah problem solved.

            October 30, 2012 at 8:46 pm
    2. Luwc

      fuckin right niqqah

      October 31, 2012 at 3:39 pm Reply
  24. Quin

    Nice look and congrats :)

    And MIttens is a faggot…

    October 29, 2012 at 10:14 am Reply
  25. Pantera

    ignore the haters.
    new layout is sexy!

    October 29, 2012 at 10:43 am Reply
  26. Riv Fan

    Looks good!

    October 29, 2012 at 11:23 am Reply
  27. West African Pilot

    I have to use a proxy to access eve news. I can’t access the website from West Africa… it gives me this message that says you have been denied access based on your location and/or IP.

    Please fix

    October 29, 2012 at 1:46 pm Reply
    1. Well, the thing is a great deal of spam and malware comes from that continent, that's why cloudflare blocks you. I am really sorry for that inconvenient.

      October 29, 2012 at 1:48 pm Reply
      1. Val_V

        I'd like to confirm that us South (-ern) Africans can access the site just fine and share Riv's sympathy for the rest of the continent.

        October 29, 2012 at 1:55 pm Reply
  28. silly me

    Looks great, I just have 1 small suggestion. Can you put the date of the articles release in the corner of each article on the front page? It's kind of confusing to tell whats older vs newer.

    October 29, 2012 at 1:54 pm Reply
    1. madness

      +1here rivi

      October 29, 2012 at 4:45 pm Reply
    2. BillyBeanDownUnder

      Like the new look.

      Second this point definitely. Was the first thing, and only thing for that matter, that has bugged me, but noticed within a minute of visiting the site that there were no dates in the corner (more important than responses in my opinion).

      As a daily reader I have read most writings from the previous day but don't always remember the title. Without the date you have too, as I just did, open the article/report or scroll down below the new feature to check the regular ordered listing. This ultimately could cause the new display feature to be irrelevant for my use if I find myself just scrolling down. For the random visitor or person linked to the site this wouldn't be as much of an issue.

      October 29, 2012 at 5:58 pm Reply
  29. OMGFrigates Warpout

    While I do go and check out TM I still come to E24 first and will continue to do so until you decide to rename the site THERIVERINIdotcom. The only critisism I have so far is the use of White Font on white background story images make the headers hard to read.

    PS are you looking for proof readers?

    October 29, 2012 at 2:14 pm Reply
  30. Alifikduzimir

    On TM pretty much all comments that are slightly more critical than neutral are deleted. Exceptions are comments that are stupid enough to allow a home run for the following counter argument.

    As far as articles, the only viewpoints posted from parties opposed to CFC are battlereports or the reposting of alliance updates. 100% of the opinion pieces / editorials are dripping with pro-CFC rhetoric.

    What makes TM more insidious is how the presentation, writing, articles outside of the eve scope, etc. suggests it to be a respectable news site.

    October 29, 2012 at 2:29 pm Reply
    1. grunt

      i've never had any of my comments deleted there, even comments criticizing the content of the article

      October 29, 2012 at 2:38 pm Reply
      1. Alifikduzimir

        Mittens himself stated on Kugu that they routinely delete all comments they consider "subliterate", which must be his euphemism for diverging opinions.

        October 29, 2012 at 3:25 pm Reply
        1. asdf

          no, "subliterate" is just that, less than literate

          being "subliterate" is exactly why you fail to understand that

          October 29, 2012 at 6:53 pm Reply
  31. Bla

    I overall like the new design though i think you should go easier on the coloring of the top tiles. It makes it hard to see what the picture is realy showing to get a quick overview. It looks nice, but it takes me longer to get to the important stuff.

    Keep up the good work.

    October 29, 2012 at 3:26 pm Reply
  32. The14th

    The new look is nice, but I am more liking the changes to the backend. The site seems to be running much more smoothly, and some glitches I had to put up with for a while seems to have been fix. Good job Riv.

    October 29, 2012 at 4:18 pm Reply
  33. Mario

    Like the new site Riv it looks good, and is much faster. However I think you need more/better writers and you need to stop personally editing topics that writers submit. If you want to have a strong news site, you need to open access to all news not just stuff you deem relevant based on your positions.

    All in all a step forward, hopefully you loosen the leash a bit on what writers can contribute going forward though.

    October 29, 2012 at 5:17 pm Reply
  34. Riggs

    Looks like Windows 8 threw up all over your site. this is just horrible now, worst redesign since Facebook timeline.

    October 29, 2012 at 5:55 pm Reply
  35. Dan Chilton

    I smell HTTrack all over this "new look" 😛

    October 29, 2012 at 6:18 pm Reply
  36. grant

    If you didn't know, this thing looks nasty on a smart phone. loads much quicker though! Thanks

    October 29, 2012 at 7:23 pm Reply
    1. grant

      i'll expand a little. I'm using a HTC Android OS and the txt and pictures are miss aligned/all over the place. as well as this the home page (which looks fantastic on the pc) is incredibly confusing as the txt sometimes runs out of the images so you cant read the titles. I've tried a few browsers and its the same. loving the new look on my pc and hopfully you can bring the mobile version upto scratch.

      October 30, 2012 at 11:49 am Reply
      1. I am implementing a mobile theme for EN24, the current theme will be modified before this week end according to the feedback and to allow a coherent brand distinction from The Verge… erhm… and Microsoft… lol

        October 30, 2012 at 2:13 pm Reply
  37. That_Ginger_Guy

    defs like the new banner/look. GJ eve news24 team

    October 29, 2012 at 8:36 pm Reply
  38. bestshot

    good job updating riv, gotta say dates on the tiles would be nice tho, and looking forward to abit more colour, maybe some "spacescapes" to jazz things up some

    October 30, 2012 at 12:10 am Reply
  39. This said, pending is to push the recent comment into the front page and work out the advertising thing (might end up dropping some banners). Anyhow, I hope you like the new look and the increased stream of Eve Online news.

    October 30, 2012 at 7:49 am Reply
  40. CareBearStares

    I'm digging the load time.
    I look forward to seeing the tweekage!

    October 30, 2012 at 3:02 pm Reply
  41. oleg

    congrats for copying all the design from other without leaving any copyright.
    http://www.codeandtheory.com

    October 31, 2012 at 12:42 pm Reply
  42. Vorgen

    Looks Better and load time is faster.
    Constructive criticism would be that the subject headings on the front page being white text can be hard to see agains a light background.
    Maybe have the text either seperate from the pictures or amend the colour to suite the background so it's readable.

    Otherwise, good work

    November 2, 2012 at 9:02 am Reply
  43. indy

    i hate it ;/ the old one was awesome dude, if u didn't like it riverini can i have take all the files of that old design off your hands? the old look was what made this site good now your viewer numbers will drop, watch

    November 3, 2012 at 7:48 am Reply

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