Here is a decent Battle Report for H-W9TY like the ones you will never find in riffraff outlets.

The DOT Brothers called for a Coalition wide CTA to counter the last timer in the H-W9TY solar system. Anyone reading this will probably know the importance of the H-W9TY system as it is pretty the heart of the Tribute region, the whole region can be accessed via jump-drives from it and the jump-drive proximity to low-sec Caldari space are quite valuable.

Battle Report: H-W9TY Speedway Sov Squad – In Color! + Hitler gets word.

The DOT Brothers formed three fleets: An AHAC fleet FC’d by SuperTwinkey69, a Naga Fleet FC’d by Elo Knight and a Bomber fleet led by Quesa. DekCo’s GoonSwarm Federation brought in an AlphaMaelstrom fleet, a Rokh fleet and a Drake fleet. A sizable super-capital ship was put in stand-by the DekCo in the nearby UMI-KK solar system. Despite being in a non-prime time zone, the DekCo held the upper hand in the numbers game.

The stakes were high for both sides, the DOT Brothers wanting to slowdown the grind and the DekCo was urged to score a big win specially in wake of the disaster Tuesday CSAA OP.

Having set up in the system before their enemies, the DOT Bros gained the tactical advantage. The jump order was given and the AlphaFleet began pouring in, the DOT Bros warped to the cyno at ranges and each of the fleets started calling their own primaries. Needless to say the DekCo fleet was systematically taken down by calling primaries on Huggins and Scimitars first, focusing then on the Drake and Maelstrom DPS backbone. All this as TiDi hit 10% with a +1000 pilot local.

The Race

Meanwhile a cyno went up in the H-W9TY station grid, the Deklein Coalition jumped several dozens of super-carriers and Slow-Cat carriers on the station grid and started grinding down the station. Simultaneously a DOT Bros was called to grind the SBU before the DekCo super-capital fleet could take down the station. Having finished up the sub-capital fleet, the sub-capital fleet joined the dread while Quesa’s fleet harassed the fighters/bombers of the DekCo supers with a few bombing runs on the station grid.

The DOT Brothers managed to finish the SBUs faster than the DekCo’s supers which prompted the station to enter in an invulnerable state and the order to withdraw from the system was given. Here is the battle-sheet for this engagement:

BattleSheetโ„ข

After the failed attempt on the H-W9TY station, the DekCo did managed to get one system; PNDN-V.

NCDOT Battle report
Eve-Kill Battle Report
DOG-Net BR Doctor

Hitler get word

So far I haven’t been able to secure fraps of the engagement (if anyone have feel free to email the link), instead I was sent this:

Hitler hears that he didn’t get his station from Sinkki Ampari on Vimeo.

Dear God! 0\

– R

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115 Comments

  1. bbb

    It's called the Clusterfuck Coalition

    October 4, 2012 at 8:38 pm Reply
    1. Poastin Toaster

      No, Its DekCo. or one could say DekCoMKII sorta like GOONSWARMFEDERATIONMKIII

      October 4, 2012 at 9:22 pm Reply
      1. CFCgrunt

        Right, as if you are not Tri MkVIII, but I have to say Nancy does sound better

        October 5, 2012 at 8:01 am Reply
        1. BntyHunter

          Sorry bro but when we lost 5 SC`s did we change our alli`s name to wipe our KB clean? Nope

          When I was Cry Havoc us and evoke killed all of Cloudring and rid the goons Mk2 AKA SOLODRAKBANSOLO and it was so crushing and terrible we were catching caps by the dozen, we had killed 60 caps in 3 days. They couldnt run fast enough.

          Totally homeless and now with a 50% killboard at best, what happens? You talk TCF into giving all there Sov to you and all the sudden GoonswarmFed is born and this brand new Kill Board where you roam while NC takes all the DMG, then a handful of GSF come to every major fight get Titan kills and bam your at 80% effec.

          And why was OG Goons disbanded and made new Alli? Because BOB smashed you into dust and your KB once more was at 50%……Add all that shit up and your 75% effec is nothing….Worse than IRC`s.

          So at least we fail then reform, you guys fail and to make yourselves look better reform with brand new stats and a brand new crop of newb pilots who are goonies, you hide from PVP for a year until they can fly T1 BC`s and then come fight….LOL

          October 5, 2012 at 7:52 pm Reply
          1. M1k3y

            No, when you lost 5 supers you went and ganked 5b+ freighters in highsec to cover how terrible you are.

            October 5, 2012 at 11:41 pm
          2. BntyHunter

            Ok, at least it was ships…..LOL what do you do grind SOV

            Look at last months kill Leader…..NCDOT
            Look at all our strictly ship ISK last month from us to GSF or CFC and it was75% effec.

            You welped countless fleets…..I wasnt in NCDOT when the supers were lost but you have no idea what you are talking about, we didnt change our names 3 times to wipe slate clean we lost 7 SC`s in 2 months and manned up and took it like a champ, not changed our names over and over until we we

            Got Sov we neer fought for that was richest in game, totally tucked away.

            Sent 20 man teams with all NC battle to KM whore, kept guys in Delve to add to the whoring……Sorry but at least NCDOT killed something on there own….You guys piggyback and when you do fight, well just look at the results, this was the closest in numbers we have ever gotten with 100 Carriers and 40 supers from CFC Side…You outnumbered us badly on 90% of ops and we stil lspank that ass.

            Seriously how can you deny it it just makes you sad and pathetic.

            Another Group PL lost tons of Supers to IT, Did they get rid of PL and start new? Nope Was Solodrakbansolo in finacial trouble and needed a eform ….nope, they did it because they got so rolled they had a negative KB, and looked so horible people were laughing.

            So why can others take huge losess and keep up with same names? Goons never had to rename [and slightly to keep the GSF name but wipe killboard]

            Sorry but you guys try to cover the stench of tons more ISK lost and now all your ISK killed is POS mods, take those away and bam 25% effec vs us.

            October 5, 2012 at 11:55 pm
          3. Poastin Toaster

            sorta like dekco ganking freighters to make up for the shitty KB that they dont care about.

            oh snap, that has to hurt.

            on the bright side, at least it only takes a couple of freighters to cover a DBRB drake welp.

            October 6, 2012 at 9:19 pm
        2. Poastin Toaster

          You are just mad because you dont understand our "culture" of "Elite PVP". Its ok, maybe one day you will understand us and see this from our point of view. But right now, until you do, understand our "culture" of "elite PVP" you will be lost and reduced to being called a hypocrite.

          October 6, 2012 at 4:45 am Reply
        3. Poastin Toaster

          you mad bro?
          am i rustling your jimmy?
          how many drakes have you lost?

          October 6, 2012 at 9:12 pm Reply
    2. Anonymouse

      Only called that by you. To everyone else, you're Deklein Coalition, Goons, BoB ressurection, or words we won't mention here…

      October 5, 2012 at 5:06 am Reply
      1. Noone

        Calling the Goons or CfC " BoB ressurection" is really bad. Learn your EvE history man b4 posting that crap

        October 7, 2012 at 8:02 pm Reply
    3. Chill mate. Only you call it Clusterfuck Coalition, rest of eve players call u goons. Nobody cares if you are from GSF, FA, FCON, they are all same shit aka goons :)

      October 6, 2012 at 6:52 pm Reply
  2. CFCBro

    Confirmed, CFC is winning not fast enough.

    October 4, 2012 at 8:39 pm Reply
    1. Jesus

      WOAH KIDDO you are posting on the wrong site.

      October 4, 2012 at 10:19 pm Reply
  3. anonymous

    "with asteroids" Best line ever

    October 4, 2012 at 8:47 pm Reply
    1. Akrasjel Lanate

      Yea i like those videos

      October 5, 2012 at 12:25 pm Reply
  4. Humble_miner

    Nice BR, riv!

    I have a sneaking suspicion that all isn't going the way Adolf plans it…

    October 4, 2012 at 8:51 pm Reply
  5. anonymous

    One thing with the isk loss, remove the total value of all Dotbro alliance losses from the isk destroyed by them. Eve Kill doesn't differentiate and will count the isk for both sides but u can sort it out with some easy subtraction. In this case that is approximately 17 bil so it'd be ~31 bil killed by dotbros and 17 bil killed by Goons.

    October 4, 2012 at 8:52 pm Reply
    1. I used the the NCDOT Killboard which by the way also got fucked up, but once I started looking through the kills in the summary I took notice the kills from DOTbro were on one side and the ones from dekco in another, so I used that one.

      October 4, 2012 at 9:24 pm Reply
      1. JohnDoe

        northern coalition Killboard has wrong data about kills cause almost all of their allies kills are added as ncdot kills due to smartbomb damage .

        October 4, 2012 at 10:37 pm Reply
      2. anonymous

        Yea, problem is if you look it shows 25 hac kills when really we lost the 25 and some of the logis were guardians. That is why you need to look at loss numbers per alliance in dotbros and remove that amount of isk from their kills since smartbombs cause them to appear as kills. Was still a win by a significant isk margine ~14 bil but it wasn't that one sided.

        October 4, 2012 at 10:52 pm Reply
  6. DangerosoDavo

    Epic vid, much lol to be had

    October 4, 2012 at 8:56 pm Reply
    1. Charles Darwin

      I don't get it, why is SOLODRAKBAN so angry? He got PNDN didn't he?

      October 4, 2012 at 9:52 pm Reply
      1. BntyHunter

        ANd how many poor asteroids had to get him PNDN, they are running out of practice orbiting space rocks.

        October 5, 2012 at 8:16 pm Reply
  7. LGND

    Lol at that vid.

    October 4, 2012 at 9:14 pm Reply
  8. Poastin Toaster

    love the video…

    also nice report.

    October 4, 2012 at 9:26 pm Reply
    1. BntyHunter

      Poastin I could have swore you were pro NC when I left to Afghan a year ago?

      Wernt you in NC? Did you finally see the light because you are right on about all your posts, but I thout it was you who used to preach NC superiority etc…..Was that another guy? Or did you come to see Jesus

      October 5, 2012 at 8:18 pm Reply
      1. Poastin Toaster

        I have been joining the 0220 fleets before there were 0220 dot bro fleets. Which are now the 0200 fleets.

        October 6, 2012 at 9:15 pm Reply
        1. BntyHunter

          I was way off then.

          Someone used to Post using your name or a similar one in the NC, I agree with everything you say.

          October 6, 2012 at 11:13 pm Reply
  9. LOL'd

    I lol'd at the video hard 'with asteroids' indeed.

    Calling out the 'riff-raff' is a little immature though. The 'other' battle report reads better (grammar FTW) but EN24 BattleSheet TM is pretty sexy. Call it a draw and dont sink to their level.

    October 4, 2012 at 9:30 pm Reply
  10. ROL Grunt

    Meanwhile us, in AAA/ROL, we keep fighting the good fight to prevent any further systems to be conquered.

    Free corp and aliances from all EVE, gather to fight the ultimate evil: the big bad blue boredoom !!!!!

    Good hunt.

    ROL Grunt

    October 4, 2012 at 9:31 pm Reply
    1. Always laughahaha

      Not trying to talk back or anything but you guys have a shit ton of blues as well…

      October 4, 2012 at 10:12 pm Reply
      1. TESTy

        WHo pray tell. and dont try to be smart and link all those 20man alliances.

        October 4, 2012 at 11:26 pm Reply
        1. Always laughahaha

          eveskunk that shit testy

          October 5, 2012 at 7:05 pm Reply
    2. Anon

      Don't make me laugh, AAA doesn't undock the just throw allies under the first bus to come along

      October 4, 2012 at 11:44 pm Reply
      1. AAAAAAAAAh

        Oh, you mean like we bplabed some 30ish of you navy apocs juts today and then we didn´t show up against 600man TEST blob…..oh good times, good times ๐Ÿ˜‰

        October 4, 2012 at 11:57 pm Reply
    3. Anonon

      -A- are worse than the Goons and that's saying something, at least Goons fight. They are both symptoms of the growing stagnation and pointlessness of Null..

      October 4, 2012 at 11:47 pm Reply
    4. cucu

      Weeee I join with my 50 tengus, what i won? AAA: "You will be my slave, take my leftovers… be happy serving AAA."

      AAA GET THE FUCK OFF, we join Test, test give Sov+Free Farm Industry= WIN

      October 5, 2012 at 2:16 am Reply
  11. That Guy

    The lines next to the blob index are backwards. It should show more "DekCo" than the dotBros.

    Other than that, good BR.

    October 4, 2012 at 9:31 pm Reply
  12. herpelderpderpherp

    you are totally forgetting the second ahac fleet here

    October 4, 2012 at 9:35 pm Reply
  13. Charles Darwin

    CFC only took one station. Dotbros must be winning

    October 4, 2012 at 9:46 pm Reply
    1. ncdotduder

      Oh CFC is gonna win, your gonna bludgen us to death with sheer volume. But we gonna make you look stupid while you do it.All them peeps you have, all that firepower.. all the ''power to the people'' you preach.. (allthough you really mean power of people)…and we just spank dat ass everytime you undock. Yeah your gonna take sov and tech, you can dogpile 1200 dudes on a single timer.But we are going to continue to murder your fleets and kill your stupid cap pilots. NCDOT continues to fight the horde. EPIC VID BTW LMAO.

      October 4, 2012 at 10:12 pm Reply
      1. Spearhead

        Lol that's a fucking funny video

        October 4, 2012 at 10:17 pm Reply
      2. BntyHunter

        Lol spank dat ass….Classic

        Also power to a person [mittens is more like it]

        He is just like Ted Kennedy, wants to keep people on welfare so they vote for him handing out the welfare……Or like Cesar making grain silos empty and hiding grain so people starve then issues bread out on his parade so the people love him thinking "Wow he is so great he is feeding us" With there own Grain…ROFL

        All Hail CESAR/MITENS

        October 5, 2012 at 8:03 pm Reply
  14. Bitter Vet

    CFC jsut lost another super to the dot bros today only a Hel this time though :/

    October 4, 2012 at 10:10 pm Reply
    1. -----------

      And we just lost another one.

      October 4, 2012 at 10:45 pm Reply
  15. ILoved2009

    OMG how did you change the subtitles for that Hitler video?

    October 4, 2012 at 10:24 pm Reply
  16. s2n pilot

    vid was great

    October 4, 2012 at 10:26 pm Reply
  17. o7 dotbros

    NCDOT fighting Nazi Zombies. I salute o7

    October 4, 2012 at 10:29 pm Reply
  18. Bitter Vet

    Lmao "with asteroids" whoever made that is a legend

    October 4, 2012 at 10:32 pm Reply
    1. ssad

      ??????????????

      October 5, 2012 at 9:56 am Reply
      1. ssad

        Whats the keyword that deletes my comments? is it "m i t t a n i"

        October 5, 2012 at 9:57 am Reply
        1. ssad

          Sure was ๐Ÿ˜›

          October 5, 2012 at 9:57 am Reply
        2. Humble_miner

          Oh… now I get it. I've been wondering the same thing. It must be "whose-name-we-don't-utter-here"

          October 5, 2012 at 1:51 pm Reply
  19. Epic

    The report is very general, there was a lot more that happened than that. Evokes frig fleet was awesome. They basically killed half of CFCs nado fleet and bombers on there own. I was in the bomber wing for that fight, we killed some, but we didn't have enough bombers to cause significant damage. But still was a pain in the ass to cfc we try's and fighter bombers aswell as the scores of drakes and meals that we killed and probed down. :) was fun. A aeon & hel has been killed in UMI FYI, goons donating there super fleet to the gods of war ๐Ÿ˜‰

    October 4, 2012 at 11:48 pm Reply
  20. Epic

    -A- SoCo need to rethink there battle plans, at the moment retreating all the time is not doing anybody any good. Take inspiration from go dotbros fight outnumbered and win, thus learning from campos to b flexible with fleet comps and fight only when you want and go you want.

    Test & PL. are far stronger than goons. Think it's about time test does prove that they are an entity themselves and put there master to the sword. As one falls another rises.
    Thing with dotbros is nc. Doesn't want lots of space just enough. If solar were not being taken for a fool by cfc at the moment, likelyness is solar could have geminate an even tenal. Nulli venal, all others that help bring down the dictatorship would hav plenty of goon space to devide & new alliances would be given a chance to do something for them selves and be nurtured into regions. Cfc Benifits all, even the slaves in cfc.

    October 5, 2012 at 12:20 am Reply
    1. Epic

      My English not good, I mean the defeat of cfc would only benifit all, even cfc members.

      October 5, 2012 at 12:23 am Reply
    2. Jakes

      There is a big difference in between the dudes making the strategical, and tactical decisions in the CFC(GSF), and the dudes making the strategical and tactical decisions in the HBC(PL). Mittins sent his EFT warrior to find a solution to the problem they were having with Ahac, and literally what they came back with was a standard utility drake(way to think outside of the box), and they are not doing any better. Comparing the tactical minds in GSF to PL is like comparing the acting skills of Keanu Reeves to Al Pacino, sure Keanu made a great living off acting, he's even co-stared in films with greats like Pacino(Devil's Advocate), but he's an awful actor.

      Just for a moment think about the ships the have used over the last three years…… standard 1400 mael, standard autocane, standard perma-MWD drake, switched from a 1400 mael to a 1200 mael, switched from perma-MWD drake to a standard utility drake……..oh yeah and their Tengu's that they will only field when they know they have like 800+ dudes in fleets.

      October 5, 2012 at 1:40 am Reply
      1. some dude

        Not ALL CFC can fly HACs, that's why expensive doctrines don't work up there.

        October 5, 2012 at 4:01 am Reply
        1. Makenzie

          Can pretty much get into an HAC in less then 30 days if you already have basic skills(Hull upgrades, weapons upgrades, est….), which I have to assume CFC dudes are encouraged to have.

          October 5, 2012 at 2:33 pm Reply
          1. BntyHunter

            You are right, CFC doesnt want any T2 hulls because they rely on insurance to pay 50% of there loss, and they know they will lose no matter what, its just a matter of how much.

            Losing 1 Rohk is like 2.5 Drakes and a Naga almost 2 Drakes because the fititings are x3 as much.

            Blaster Rohk`s and ACS Maels are stupid they are counting on Tank but should be counting on speed and tracking. A Mael simply cant turn with a Ahac to lower angular enough, where as a Pest is as nimble as a Drake….It really is night and day, a Mael needs 2 Nano`s to equal a non nano`d Pest, so a single Nano Pest= Drakes manuvers, so it become like a Ferox with 800mm ACS`s and best Part is Heavy Nuet….If you Nuet out Hacs within 25km you win.

            CFC has no idea what adapting even means. They used Drakes so much because Drakes were 80% good at every role, fact is they could be beat by any BS fleet, BadHacs who could kite them or Tengu`s [Super Drakes] CFC rellied on numbers, but in our BHACS they could rarely get into range and best part is Angular/Tras velocity means nothing to missiles so you could burn in a stright line and nullify missile DMG.

            Adapting isnt going with Naga/Rohk like every other group lol, we have such good inty pilots we will get warpins on your long range Rokhs and then orbit at 5km-10 with AB on with your rails never hitting anything……

            This is where they fail, no one in CFC can do multiple things, there FC`s arent good enough to use composite fleets like say, 1/2 Drakes half Rokhs, so if we got close they could hit us and we broke range they could as well….And they outnumber us 2:1 in every fight almost so why not? Because they dont have FC`s who can mangage, unlike what Mittens the idiot says we have more than Elo.

            We could have Elo running T3`s, Twinkey running Nagas/Nados and another great FC like Alex running Rep Fleet with Dark holding as our Cap FC.

            October 5, 2012 at 7:29 pm
      2. Poastin Toaster

        Please dont forget the new AC Maelstroms and the Blaster Rohks. Those are the newest fits for their ships.

        October 5, 2012 at 6:07 pm Reply
    3. ssad

      LOL!

      You said "AAA, fight, win" in the same sentence…. i loled…

      October 5, 2012 at 9:25 am Reply
    4. Feday

      Doubt Nulli are going to be in dotbros much longer, Nulli cant even get any of their own fleets going atm Nulli members have to wait till NC. put a fleet togeather being as they cant form their own fleets, not that NC. fleets are bad or anything obviously there some of the best fleets you can be a part of.

      But the fact that a 1600man alliance hasnt ran any proper fleets of its own for well over 2 weeks now is a worry. Almsot all of Nullis fc's have either gone inactive or left the alliance after Delve and what not. And alot of the Nulli guys really arent happy. Its a good job the dotbros fc's are keeping them interested or Nulli would be pretty much finished by now

      October 5, 2012 at 3:12 pm Reply
      1. gian

        u on meth?

        October 5, 2012 at 6:41 pm Reply
      2. Always laughahaha

        you're full of shit

        October 5, 2012 at 7:00 pm Reply
  21. Zhalxis

    I would pay real money to actually see The Shittani having a similar conversation with his directors.

    October 5, 2012 at 1:06 am Reply
  22. Fastnlose

    I don't understand the Hitler reference?

    October 5, 2012 at 1:48 am Reply
    1. M1k3y

      Theres been a series of Hitler parody videos using some scenes out of an old movie, people put in captions to fit whatever they are mocking, in this case CFC failing to take space when they are fighting against a group who is generally smaller than they are.

      October 5, 2012 at 2:18 am Reply
      1. Fastnlose

        What on YOUTUBE or something?

        October 5, 2012 at 2:20 am Reply
        1. sammy davis

          It's in response to this video.
          http://vimeo.com/49175168

          October 5, 2012 at 5:16 am Reply
  23. BntyHunter

    Good thing we had Elo…We would be destitute without him :)

    Seriously, please CFC just admit we are better than you at PVP and I realy think the rest of Eve will respect you more.

    Follow Test`s example say you suck know it, that way when we roam with 60 ships and you wont undock with 120 guys, its not like "God for PVPers they sure dont want to PVP"

    You blue ball us unless you have way more numbers, just look at this fight 120 more pilots, and you still lose 50ish bil vs our 11…..With 120 Maels how can you not insta pop alot of us? Terrible fittings?

    120 Maels= More than most our fleets and yet with that much advantage you lose 5:1 in the ISk battle….Just admit it Mittens you guys suck at PVP, its ok to suck its not ok to say we arent better than you and ELo is the reason we win etc etc and then get beat by our Aussies Alex, Twinkey and other FC`s time and again.

    Reality check we are fighting 2 wars with your side having 35k members and ours about 5k tops and we are cleaning your clock in 80% of battles and were we dont win we make you bleed badly…..You still couldnt take tribute/HW….No more propaganda saying we arent Spartans etc etc and we cant fly and "How hard is it to fly with Elo leading" lol

    We are PVPers….You arent, thats ok just accept it.

    October 5, 2012 at 2:23 am Reply
    1. some dude

      Oh, comon, give it a break already, yes, yes, you are elite-top-super-duper PVPer. Keep your panties on, we'll meet on a field again, is tomorrow is good for you ?

      October 5, 2012 at 4:10 am Reply
      1. BntyHunter

        Im just saying you are the one who follows a leader saying you are a great PVP force etc and without Elo we are lost but this week it was 90% no Elo and we rocked you badly, Tmrw is great lets see what you can do.

        October 5, 2012 at 7:30 am Reply
      2. BntyHunter

        OHHHH tmrw came and went and even more kills

        October 6, 2012 at 11:14 pm Reply
    2. Qwerty4812

      the philosophy is that you can take over eve with a lot of bad players

      key word "bad players"

      I'm in gsf and I think we pretty bad at pvp but i'm like w.e haha

      October 6, 2012 at 12:23 am Reply
  24. M1k3y

    Ehh… Riverini?

    Those aren't alpha Maelstroms… they have 800mm Autocannons fit. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=147http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=147http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=147http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=147http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=147
    Looks like goons were trying to trick DOTBros into using an anti-alpha fleet doctrine (AHACs) then kill them with 800mm autocannons.

    Not sure what those would be called (Not alphacats that's for sure), but they still welped. ๐Ÿ˜€

    October 5, 2012 at 2:24 am Reply
    1. Ahh damn, thanks for the correction but they seem to call everything AlphaFleet. Would like to know the doctrine name for future ref.

      October 5, 2012 at 2:58 am Reply
    2. BntyHunter

      Not HeroCats like we use either….Ist actually kinda dumb….800`s still cant track well esp in a slow ship like a Mael…..We use Nano Pests with 800`s so we can manually keep transversal very very low on top of mounting 2 TE`s. The Mael is just to Slow…VS Drakes or BS`s its great vs our Hacs…Very poor.

      More evidence the CFC and its "SkyFit team" of whatever the F, Mittens called them suck ass and dont understand Eve.

      October 5, 2012 at 3:31 am Reply
      1. Guy

        800's should be able to track okay between 30 – 80km as long as the pilots aren't awful and are trying to minimise transversal.

        It does seem kind of strange using maelstroms for that when tempests or even nados might do the job better, plus they're cheaper and easier to withdraw when things go bad.

        October 5, 2012 at 8:44 am Reply
        1. BntyHunter

          At 30-80km you might as well use 1200`s with tracking.

          Only way to really track is 2 TE`s 2/gyro`s in low and use a Pest with a Nuet to kill Ahacs at >25 km.

          They just dont know what manual flying is, they think we anchor all the time lol, you cant orbit in a Mael and try to hit Ahacs who are orbiting you and succeed, you may get a lucky hit but you need to manually lower and have 2 trackingmods and speed….The Mael feels like a Pest with a 1600mm and 3 trmarcks.

          Also the Nuet makes Ahacs go from 900 m/s to 300 m/s… big difference.

          October 5, 2012 at 7:45 pm Reply
          1. Guy

            Maybe closer to 80km. I wouldn't trust large arty tracking at 30 that's for sure. I haven't done a heap of large fleets but I've done a lot of small gang, solo and smaller fleets and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be hitting crap with arty at 30 unless it was sitting still or flying directly away. You can do good damage to really small ships with autos at 25 or more as long as you're keeping at range and cutting the transversal.

            I'm surprised that goons haven't used more short range gunboats, although I guess ncdot would switch over to nagas if that was the case.

            And yes, you need to control transversal a bit but anyone who's done much pvp at all knows that.

            October 6, 2012 at 5:01 pm
  25. BntyHunter

    1 More thing you have 9k members and 155 corps

    We [NCDOT] have 1600 membes and 18 Corps

    we brought 199 guys you brought 187 guys

    See the problem here…..we brought 1 1/8th of our toons…..You brought 1/45th

    Also this was your most GSF pilots for along time. Its sad when RZR and FA who have half and way less than half of your members almost match your numbers…And furthermore they have been leading numbers in your fleets…..RZR and FA why fight for these guys who make you fight then keep all Tec and space?

    RZR seriously I cant understand you guys I get FA being mittens buttboys, but you were a proud and celabrated even by us your enemies group who if GSF would have helped instead of taking TCF`s land and saying screw the NC we are CFC you would still be the most powerful…..Your equal to pets now.

    If RZR came to us and said screw GSF they only are n it for them help us keep our Sov lets fight them, we would not only stomp GSF but you would own all your Sov and alot more+ get rid of the cancer that is GSF, we might not be blues at the end but we never wanted to completely destroy anyone till now with gSF…..We would probably be nipped and kill eachother with huge amounts of fun while you owned x2 your Tec.

    Just dont get the mindset, they wernt loyal to MM or You when you guys lost 10-13 Titans that day? They were never loyal to you they wanted you to fail so they could restart NC version 2 but have a dictator instead of equals…..Never get it, you actually have talent and squander it with teribad FC`s and horribad fleets

    Seriously if you are a RZR guy who has been there a while please explain this to me, im being dead serious, I just dont get it.

    October 5, 2012 at 2:33 am Reply
    1. ssad

      Goons are only loyal to Goons.

      And yeah, how about FA FCON SMA RZR GENTS turning on Goons. Together with dotbros against CFC north and CFC south…

      That would be…. epic!

      October 5, 2012 at 3:17 am Reply
    2. some dude

      You sir complain too much, please take your sh1t together and stop counting others losses looking from your station hangar window. Respect to all those RZR carrier pilots for coming on the field, respect for DOTs for engaging. They are all brave men.

      October 5, 2012 at 3:46 am Reply
      1. BntyHunter

        Im a in NCDOT and part of 80% of these stories tool.

        October 5, 2012 at 7:31 am Reply
      2. Humble_miner

        Respect to Razor. It's not easy to fight when the guy next to you is a moron.

        October 5, 2012 at 7:40 am Reply
    3. CFCgrunt

      Well, DRF kicked us out of Tribute and Tenal and thanks to Goons we managed to kill off WN, kick Raiden out of Tenal and get back Tribute soon. Why the hell would we now spare the last part of the old DRF?

      October 5, 2012 at 7:59 am Reply
      1. BntyHunter

        Except it wasnt your NCDOT/DRF who beat you….DRF simply barely matched you in strength. It was GSF who did by not coming to your aid in the great Titan welp and in the days after where they said "If NC has given up, so have we"

        We actually have a good amount of MM guys with us now, who realize we were just fighting the Blob it was nothing personal, but an an alli who left us to die, took our TCF [main allies space] then said we are friends to NC but not a member? That was when you guys lost, effectively you lost 1/3rd your coalition since GSF took FCON FA and all of pureblind with them who then went from sending hndreds to sending 10`s of men to help.

        Its same as if GSF wipes us out and Evoke, BL. etc all pulled out while we were at the crucial point we are now. Who would realy be to blame? GSF for fighting us? Or our trusted Allies who allowed GSF to get the upperhand and win, then after we were killed, offer us back 1/4 of our old holdings and Moons and then make us feel lucky we are still there.

        Sorry guys you are being used, you were left out in the cold by a group who realized if they didnt fight for you at the end the DRF would leave them alone and there Ties to RA were strong, hell you talk about DRF, you do realize Xdeath is your ally now right? One of the main 3 to aggress and take you out all because its convenient for GSF.

        They let you die took half your moons then gave you back some and you are expected to say thank you sir. We respected Razor enough to work out a deal, hell we were sad when MM died, we dont aim to put ALlis with old honorable ties out of the game, thats what GSF does.

        Sorry but you guys are getting played. I respect you but your getting played…Dont be mad at the enemy soldier but your buddy who throws you to the wolves.

        October 5, 2012 at 7:39 pm Reply
    4. NullSecHoBo

      Two main reasons, I think:

      1. Debt: Goons gave RZR space to regroup in PB when the old NC fell. If it had not, there is a decent chance they would have failscaded like MM.

      2. History: NC. was part of the reason Tenal was lost and that kinda stuff isn't easy to just gloss over.

      October 5, 2012 at 10:48 am Reply
  26. DubbaYooArr

    Wish I was in NCDOT about now.

    October 5, 2012 at 4:01 am Reply
    1. BntyHunter

      You could be

      Join an alli or a training corp, a great one is TM, Total Meyhem`s training corp is anyone wants in, in 2-3 months you will get pulled to major leagues….What a great Alliance…It really is so much fun.

      Total Meyhem also is a corp from Cry Havoc but most our corps come from some of the best in game, we basically split members with PL when CH fell. Habit and elise randolph went PL and took half we took the other half. Only a 450 man Alliance had 28 Supers and 6 Titans with 100 Caps back in 2010 when SC`s meant everything and Caps were still godly. Best ratio in history of Eve :) , beating Raidne by a smudge at there peak.

      Also guys we have french [Frogs and snails] [Finfleet] Tons of Ausi`s and guys like me pacific TZ, US guys go Total Meyhem or Outlaw etc

      We have 1 corp for everyone, just dont be a spy, if you are its so hard the way the set it up to be effective anyways I love it. Its why you dont see Spy actions done to much to us.

      October 5, 2012 at 7:57 pm Reply
      1. DubbaYooArr

        Any chance I could hit you up in game?

        October 5, 2012 at 9:51 pm Reply
        1. Spearhead

          no, I want to recruit you to MY corp. don't go to damn nc

          Because I trust you 101%

          October 5, 2012 at 11:01 pm Reply
        2. BntyHunter

          Candi Suxx, ill respond

          October 5, 2012 at 11:57 pm Reply
  27. anon

    funny video lol I can't wait to laugh when CFC calls TEST+HBC and cries for them to save em! lol

    of course if they do that… then soco will undock and rape them in the rear.

    October 5, 2012 at 4:13 am Reply
  28. Bad Goon Newbie

    So that's why they have us in the asteroid belts.

    October 5, 2012 at 7:16 am Reply
  29. The_Oracle86

    lol that video made me laugh, they would still fuck it up with asteroids though, orbiting stations would be the easiest for them.

    October 5, 2012 at 7:18 am Reply
  30. jaybo

    Fyi dark razor , and others were fc'ing the ahac fleet and twinkey was target calling. Twinkey is quite talented at this role. As far as setting the whole fight up (atleast from general coms point of veiw) There was a team of fc's . Either way was a pretty epic fight. Could of been alot better with less TIDI though , and even though some mistake were made on our side it was still one for the eve history books .
    Side note
    The local chatter when one fights goons and pets is quite astounding .

    October 5, 2012 at 8:35 am Reply
  31. CFCgrunt

    Funny video, well thought out. I still wonder why the Untergang and nazi reference is being used so much. Nancy and co are being squeezed from two fronts and defeat is certain and still refer to the enemy as nazi. Probably going in line with calling yourself after your enemy…

    October 5, 2012 at 8:54 am Reply
    1. The Observer

      If you haven't realized this yet, mittens = hitler.

      October 5, 2012 at 8:59 am Reply
      1. M1k3y

        Hitler is talkign to mittens, trying to rent space.

        While there are some similarity between the two, Hitler doesn't represent mittens in those videos

        October 5, 2012 at 11:19 pm Reply
  32. Fyi dark razor , and others were fc'ing the ahac fleet and twinkey was target calling. Twinkey is quite talented at this role. As far as setting the whole fight up (atleast from general coms point of veiw) There was a team of fc's . Either way was a pretty epic fight. Could of been alot better with less TIDI though , and even though some mistake were made on our side it was still one for the eve history books .

    October 5, 2012 at 9:23 am Reply
    1. BntyHunter

      People dont realize a great alliance doesnt take 2 fc`s per 4.5k guys like CFC, it takes 2 good FC`s in each timezone who are very active, Elo is one but only one of many..

      Elo, Twinkey, Dark,Alex [who gets alot less credit than he deserves BTW] and tons more.

      October 5, 2012 at 7:41 pm Reply
  33. praying mantis01 MV

    OMG i am in tears watching that video hahahaha

    October 5, 2012 at 7:32 pm Reply
  34. Definitely Not Vogon

    I just love how this war is going. Doesn't matter to me if CFC takes tribute. It's the 'making them bleed like a stuck pig while trying to do it' that is so damned fun. And its working. Looks like CFC is less and less committed to fighting. Guess even the drakes are getting too expensive for their heavily strained replacement program.

    I'd like to give props to the many alliances in teh dotbros, but in particular I wanted to single out IRC. CFC has always considered themselves better than you, yet, you've consistently been a good an honourable chunk of our fleets. I realize many in IRC don't like some of our FC's style (RAGING), but you've adapted well, and not made any mistakes in fleet. Keep up the great work!

    And sticking to your guns in teaming up with us against Goons, despite what douchebaggery Solar is up to with CFC. Shame on Solar for picking cfc over you!

    October 5, 2012 at 8:09 pm Reply
  35. trol is as trol doh

    omg — that video is awesome ==== still wiping the tears from my eyes.

    October 5, 2012 at 11:15 pm Reply
  36. niko

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14… maybe you are talking though of a different battle. cause your summary and this thing (having nulli showing losses on the cfc side) says something quite different.

    October 6, 2012 at 2:23 am Reply
    1. anonymous

      That killreport has all cfc losses included as their kills as well. It does support my argument earlier though that 31 billion was killed by dotbros and 17 billion or so was lost by dotbros because the losses is all cfc + about 2.8 billion in nulli deaths.

      October 6, 2012 at 11:19 pm Reply
  37. Goonman

    The best is the winner

    We dont give shit if you are better than us at PvP. All we care is victory, and victory we will get. Maybe it will take longer than other campaigns against other Pro L33t PvPers, but the result will be the same.

    And, ho, very l33t to hide in AU TZ

    o7

    October 6, 2012 at 7:07 pm Reply
    1. Mkhat

      I love it NC, keep up the good fight, you may turn the tide just yet! Especially with goons feeding their pets with propaganda like "we don't care how much we lose or how bad our pvp is as long as we win!..all we care about is victory! Wait did i just make sense?" Yes, RAZOR, Initiative, RAIDEN, Untouchables, Gorgon Alliance, all share the same joke "we're not goon/test pets we just fight their wars" so, in the words of -A-, enjoy the extra targets on grid! ๐Ÿ˜€

      October 6, 2012 at 7:38 pm Reply
    2. Poastin Toaster

      you mad?
      you seem mad?
      you seem mad that you dont have any FCs in AU TZ.

      See you in AU TZ my love.

      October 6, 2012 at 9:10 pm Reply
    3. Goons are so Shit
      I have no idea why anyone would sign up to part of goons
      I would be so embarrising to be part of goons

      October 8, 2012 at 4:16 am Reply
  38. Hey look, 10 pages of "Not fair" and "What Ifs" and "You guys suck"

    u guys mad?

    October 7, 2012 at 1:29 am Reply
  39. Geez that is one funny vid lmfao xD

    October 8, 2012 at 3:15 am Reply

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