The Kadeshi is not a new name in the world of new Eden. It has been around since the beginning of 2008 and has gone through some good times and some bad times. There have been changes in leadership, corporations and tactics, but one thing remained the same. We are and always will be a PvP alliance that walks it’s own path.

The Southern Conflict – a The Kadeshi Perspective

I’ve asked myself numerous times what makes a good or bad alliance. Often success is measured through statistics, a trend seen in the south. Afterall, eve is a spreadsheet game and the alliance with the greenest spreadsheet is considered to be the top dog, whether it be kills, isk or sov. One could say, the higher the number, the better. From my point of view, this is an incomplete assumption. Morale is what makes an alliance succesful and all things that contribute to that general feeling of being a winner. Succes is the ability to rally the troops, to engage people in unconditional loyalty to the cause and keeping your head high while facing a grim future. Size doesn’t matter.

In this light, the Kadeshi can be deemed succesful. In contrast to popular belief we do not consider ourselves “pets”. It’s a kind of terminology that’s often used in propaganda or forum wars as a means to generalize the smaller entities that are part of a power block. To me, a pet is something that doesn’t have it’s own identity, which is simply too black and white to be taken seriously. Kadeshi is a small entity that can pack a punch for it’s limited wallet. We are honourable people that respect their enemies for what they are. Unfortunately eve is evolving into a numbers game where small become less and less relevant.

So, what defines us…
Kadeshi is a small group of people, when compared with modern day 0.0 alliances. Some might know us from years ago, the Kadeshi that used to do very well in the alliance tournament, an alliance with a respectable name. Things change and like any alliance Kadeshi has gone through changes and evolved with the game. It mainly consists of corporations and members coming from BoB/IT space, insurgency or provi noobs that got curbstomped during the war against -A- back in 2009.

Now a bit of history…

The war in fountain was my first personal encounter with goonswarm and by god, it is remembered as a brutal one. The seemingly untouchable IT alliance got overrun by the new (old) kid in town. There was no way goons would be able to slaughter fountain residants just like that, but it happened nonetheless. Before the fountain period my alliance got destroyed in wicked creek, being atlas pets, by pandemic legion and friends, before this we got absolutely obliterated in the providence war and let’s not go into the DRF war to much. You could say that in every major conflict I was part off, I lost horribly. History seems to be repeating itself once more, not only for me, but for most of kadeshi’s members since they’ve traveled the same road.

My time in ROL was a good one. We had everything we needed, good space, nice pvp and loads of room to grow. Russians have a bad reputation amongst many people that never had to deal with them but let me tell you, this is not true for most of them. Effort was rewarded in ROL. Something I don’t always see in other coalitions (cough..Tribal Band) Kadeshi started to fly with ROL more and more and at some point my corp decided to try something else and joined Kadeshi. It happened to be a perfect match and even though many of the priviliges we had with ROL were sacrificed just to be in kadeshi, the ties would remain with our old friends that decided to stay.

Nowadays Kadeshi’s memberbase features alot of experienced and high SP players mostly focused around the EU timezone. Fun has always been the endgoal. Sov is seen as a nescessary evil, a means to get fights and ISK to continue what we like doing. This is the reason why we went to the south in the first place. It seemed like a bunch of regions that wasn’t a massive blueball and let’s face it, catch and providence were one of the few places where everybody came to get some “gudfights”. A place where a small alliance like us could do whatever we wanted with very few rules to play by. Are we relevant? Not in the big scheme of things, but we do what we can with the limited resources we have.

What is yet to come…

Recent developments are worrying for small alliances. Everything is getting bigger and bigger. Coalitions are polarizing in certain areas and are focusing everything they have on one single point. Don’t get me wrong, I applaud the leadership of any big power block for their time, effort and achievements. It’s truly a fantastic feat. Organization in these coalitions is getting better and better and soon enough there will be only a few big players left. Critics will probably say that this has happened before and big power blocks will always fall, but I’m not sure if this will happen this time, atleast not in the near future. Powerblocks simply have to many branches, to good ties and to much ISK to compensate for any internal conflicts. Will small alliances like Kadeshi still be able to do their own thing, or will they be forced to join the big blocks and look for pvp over several regions simply because there’re to many forced blues. Will they be able to take any meaningful sov without having to face the full might of a coalition? Where else could you find so many smaller alliances with their own little wars then in the south.

Even elite pvp alliances like pandemic legion, or former elite like raiden, have to hide behind these massive coalitions, just to be able to take their pimp fleets out. Doesn’t being elite require one to take risks, fight against the odds? What PL is doing is not elite, since there’s no risk involved. Not on a sov level, not on a financial level, not even on a numbers level since they have HBC. A damn shame if you ask me, they could be so much better. Raiden never got anything of the ground either since they joined Soco. It was a rare sight to see any sizable raiden presence, yet everybody kept pointing fingers at -A-. Now that they joined HBC suddenly we see a jump in activity even to the point a 70 man init/raiden abaddon fleet was running around delve the other night. So why didn’t they fight before? Probably simply because they were fighting an uphill battle, don’t have a backbone and got convinced -A- was to blame. Good propaganda again. I do not envy -A-. Everyone is looking at them and blaming them because this war is not going well. Let’s be fair, -A- is not the only one to blame. HBC proves to be a formidable enemy and if you look past all the shitposting and intimidation, they really know what they’re doing. Probably their brilliant propaganda is what is winning them the war. Keep screaming-A- is treating their pets bad and people will start believing it. Much respect to the concept and the ones running the show.

One could argue that Kadeshi is getting used to being on the losing side and I can do nothing but agree to this sentiment. This is actually part of the thing that holds Soco together, or what’s left of it. We share the same ideals. We have been there, we’ve lost everything multiple times before, yet we’re still here, not because Maka is shouting at us. He’s just one of the guys at the helm we take with a grain of salt. Many players in SOCO think like this. If you ever wondered why what’s left of Soco is still fighting well this is the reason. One day I hope we get respected for it. A small group of people that stood up and refused to give in to the Blue blob, just because we love our game and the way we like to play it. Soco will not win this war, but we’ll be there untill the end…time and time again. This is called having a backbone, a thing some alliances have and some alliances lack.

With this I conclude my little contribution to the endless stream of EvE related propaganda. Respect to anyone flying for ideals, friends or foes, we hope to meet you in battle.

– C0iler

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  1. Lookingforward

    -A- and it's allies are doing well in the current war, considering the might of the opposition in front of them they are doing a damn good job.

    The blanket covering propaganda has once again got to those who join "HBC". I know alot of people who Goons have back stabbed who promised they would never join a Goon allied entity again… and yet they do. "HBC" is simply a Goon created coalition, a "pet" coalition if you like, it has blanketed alot of people and I wonder when will the day come when people will wake up and realize who their actually working for. They are working for the alliance who took their region, the alliance who back-stabbed and consequently forced an alliance disband, they are the alliance once again ruling over you and forcing you into a direction which ultimately carves the road to success and power for themselves.

    September 23, 2012 at 12:26 am Reply
  2. Kadeshi Troll

    At least this did not come from the pilot that flew out of a ATX arena in a Tengu. Props for not being that guy.

    September 23, 2012 at 12:33 am Reply
    1. not a kadeshi troll

      no its not, that guy is still somewhere in the tournie system looking for his way home after failing to find the transport cyno home

      September 23, 2012 at 10:43 am Reply
  3. grunt

    I'd rather be camped 24/7 than blue with goons/test, let their invasion take place, I will hit you at every chance I get with whatever I got.

    September 23, 2012 at 12:34 am Reply
  4. rdn grunt

    unfortunately some of us in raiden did fight before, we had fleets, it was -a- where we saw a lack of determination and complete lack or coordination.

    September 23, 2012 at 12:40 am Reply
    1. anon

      That's like saying, I hate Chicken so I ate shit instead.

      Enjoy your shit.

      September 23, 2012 at 12:47 am Reply
      1. stjarnkikaren


        September 23, 2012 at 12:54 am Reply
      2. hmm


        September 23, 2012 at 1:21 am Reply
      3. CookieMonster


        September 23, 2012 at 2:31 pm Reply
    2. NAPFEST

      RDN. Lost its way when things got too tough,can't blame them,but no point of pointing fingers! Joining the Napfest is the easy road wich leads EVE to a ever closer global blue napfest of 0.0

      September 23, 2012 at 8:02 am Reply
    3. NC.

      Don't even try you useless pet! Raiden word is utterly worthless these days. Even AAA beats you in a pissing contest.

      September 23, 2012 at 8:34 am Reply
      1. La LoLa

        says the nc. scrub the guys who went crying to goons to not lose their moons together with Ejoke, you guys need to grow some balls to be half what raiden is.

        September 24, 2012 at 10:04 am Reply
        1. lolscrub

          Look at Raiden, now back to NC., now back to Raiden, now back to NC.. Sadly Raiden is not NC., but if you would have stopped welping SCaps vs. goons you still might be an independent alliance. Look down, back up. Where are you. You´re Testpets sourrunded by a bunch of rifter flying retards. What was in Raidens´ hands, look back to NC.. NC. has it, it´s motivated players enjoying the game they love. Look again, you have just a bunch of inactive accounts. Anything would have been possbile if you were not a bunch of gutless sissies blobbing with Scaps. NC. is in zealots!

          September 24, 2012 at 12:38 pm Reply
          1. dotbro


            September 24, 2012 at 7:02 pm
        2. Dotbros

          La Lola were you been forever. Dotbros 10x the personalities and skill than cfc as has been proven daily. Spartans vs Persains inspirational Pvp outnumbered but still hammering cfc fleets killing hoardes vs cfc numbers and structure kill mails. I k ow who's having fun and who's trying to believe they are lol. Salute dotbros awesome job o7

          September 24, 2012 at 9:31 pm Reply
    4. AlllBlueeeee

      Yo dn grunt, you are shit, Raiden name is scrapping the barrel if that. Sssshhhhh keep quite and run along, no one cares about you.

      September 23, 2012 at 10:42 pm Reply
    5. Dave from FA

      you made the right move!

      Now we have lots more space taxi's and vets to tell us how best to press f1

      September 24, 2012 at 9:36 pm Reply
      1. Woot woot

        The beat of vets are in dotbros. There are some in PL. but not a lot of vets left unfortunately. CCP focusing on newbies has forced many vets to look else were instead of the napfest.

        September 24, 2012 at 10:35 pm Reply
  5. ssad

    +1 for ideals and never giving up.

    We do play this game for fun.

    Being killed over n over and still coming back and rebuilding is also fun, even though it doesnt sound like it.

    September 23, 2012 at 12:58 am Reply
  6. Jarod

    Remember remember, the fifth of november! Thats what came to mind upon reading this.

    I salute you my friend! I've flown alongside you and i make your words mine. Soco isnt backed by a "culture" or a "mindset" we fly for the shirt, the flag, the name… we grab our hand and just play the game, win or loose. At the end of the day, we arent sold outs or quitters. We fall upright, never on our knees!

    September 23, 2012 at 3:03 am Reply
  7. BntyHunter

    You really wanna fight a non aligned battle where we fighting 2 of the biggest blobs in Eve look north my friends.

    I remember Kadeshi when they flew in syndi and would fight everynight vs even us in CH, you really wanna fight the blobs come north.

    Even groups like Raiden and Init who say they wanna fight etc I am skeptical of since IMO the north is were the true war is, SOCO will be left to have Catch if they stay in there region but GSF has proclaimed they gonna wipe out the last indy small coalition there is in DOTBROS….You wanna fight and walk your own path its not in the south IMO.

    September 23, 2012 at 5:21 am Reply
    1. War Observer

      Nah. After goons finish the north they will move back south to finish of -A-. Then they will kill Solar because MACTEP was to myopic to fight goons when there was still a chance. Entire sow 0.0 will be goon and goon pets alone, drooling psychophants eagerly providing blowjobs and riomjobs at command.

      Entities like Kadeshi, NC., -A-, Black Legion, Nulli… that value their independence and have self respect will be forced out in to NPC 0.0 and low sec and from there they will wage perpetual guerilla war against goon and goon pets. Mark my words this is how eve will look like in a 12 mounts or so.

      September 23, 2012 at 11:11 am Reply
      1. BntyHunter

        In 12 months it will be Solar and Ruskis, GSF/pets and HBC and AAA. Then a huge fight will start with HBC and GSF and NCDOT will be in NPC Vale already to whoop there asses, some perceived slight wil occur but in reality TEST/PL will realise they are bigger and better than the half dormant GSF so why would they not take the richest place ever?

        FA/FCON etc who always were flip floppers will turn at the first sign of total defeat and when they realise GSF provides only leadership and not fighting strength, then GSF will work out a deal were they get DELVE and Querious and HBC gets the north.

        I see that happening, IDK about a year but NCDOT has almost always lived in NPC 00 sec hel x70 was basically CH/NCDOTS/Evokes forever lol even Atlas during Max asked if they could stay there from us.

        September 23, 2012 at 5:48 pm Reply
        1. I never log in

          Show me on DOTLAN where NPC Vale is.

          September 24, 2012 at 7:22 am Reply
      2. AlllBlueeeee

        Yo I am part of Solar Inc… let me assure you, the drones, would put up a a good fights.
        Most of the Drones remnants have fought many wars, lost but hey we have fought.

        When we do not fleet up with Solar, we shoot each other, as that's what we ALL like to do.
        If CFC turn on us, so be it. It's a frigging game. So don't really care, if we lose our sov again and agian.

        Mactep decisions are final and I love the russians dudes tbfh.

        September 23, 2012 at 9:35 pm Reply
        1. Truth

          Solar are struggling to take on Dotbros when they are also fighting cfc. Solar has proven that they are a disgrace by working with cfc, and have proven that they couldn't fight a war against cfc when it comes along, only a matter of time. Instead of having a chance with dotbros, solar dooming themselves to a couple of weeks of war before collapsing. If solar believes they can fight like dotbros have then they are kidding themselves. Solar as history has proven will after a few weeks of losing fights and ground, stop fighting or send out the bombers. That's not me speculating, that's what has always happened.

          September 23, 2012 at 10:25 pm Reply
          1. zer02none

            Solar isn't struggling… last time I checked Geminate has completely been taken, only a few skirmishs left but nothing major has happened in the past month.

            September 24, 2012 at 6:16 am
        2. Jan

          I leave solar, not fight with goon. Fucking bad, Mactep stubborn, good man but stubborn. Solar and pets will pay dearly for this mistake. I don't want thing to do with cfc. Would rather keep honour & and fight like solar of old. This not good direction, few moons now ok. Tomorrow solar have no friends to help them when cfc knocks on door. This I cannot be part of.

          September 23, 2012 at 10:32 pm Reply
        3. AAA

          Disappointed with Solar. Just turning into another XdeathX rental empire at any cost. They were held in such high respect when we all had fun in the Drone counteroffensive. Greed has now clouded Mactep's priorities and he is flushing Solar reputation down the shitter.

          September 24, 2012 at 4:22 am Reply
      3. Justchecking

        Ummmm… Actually that sounds nice and interesting but I think that something like that is happening now.
        I mean, we are not yet in NPC 0.0 but we still roam their space and get a nice number of kills…

        September 24, 2012 at 2:18 am Reply
  8. BntyHunter

    Also what happend to Protaa? I think his name was.

    September 23, 2012 at 5:22 am Reply
    1. Protaa

      Still here, whos asking?

      September 24, 2012 at 11:49 am Reply
  9. anonymous

    When I first saw this I questioned whether I wanted to spend the time reading it. I am very glad I did to say the least it was a very good read.

    September 23, 2012 at 5:28 am Reply

    Yes in the North Dotbros are fighting an amazing fight as they have been,looks as though they are onto another winning month of killing Goons/Solar. Goons getting there structure KMs while Dotbros hit them where & when they can. Why do they do this, because they love EVE as a game,for its challanges & successes. Wich ever way the northern war comes out of,at most it will be a shallow victory for CFC to say the least, i.e. "ohh we took your sov/stations/tech" where as Dotbros have "We killed hoardes of cfc/Solar when massively outnumbered. Now as in quality of game entertainment/value. Being the little guy standing upto the blob,im very proud of every1 who takes part in goon bashing.
    2 months later & CFC are still struggling to take tribute. Dotbos are still here,an we arn't going anywhere!

    September 23, 2012 at 8:14 am Reply
    1. NAPFEST

      As was said b4 CFC mb you should substitue some numbers for skill.
      This Very Night 150 Solar Vultures + 130 CFC blobbed vs 100 Dotbros. Ofc Dotbros held there own,killing many,but the point is,Dotbros are having fun as well as inspiring a generation/free alliances to prove that the blob can be killed. Obviously structures are unlickely to be held with the flood of rats, but the Goon blood keeps spraying all the same. P.S. look forward to seeing CFC roll over Solar sooner or later :) Solars time will come,I don't even need to promise that,because its common sence. & I will take great effort to watch them burn for being the cowardly vultures that they are. There is huge Blunders in EVE Solar has topped the list,shooting them selves in their own foot,as hularious as it is,its still the pinnicle of stupidity. Solar has not actually acheived anything as of last several months tbh,big shame to what they are becoming,used to have alot of respect for them…mehh

      September 23, 2012 at 8:19 am Reply
      1. anon

        Dude, this was a pain to read.

        September 23, 2012 at 1:00 pm Reply
        1. im not anon


          September 23, 2012 at 2:23 pm Reply
    2. BntyHunter
      Look at these fights just everyday ordinary 2:1 to 3:1 fights, and if I could I would show losses but there arent very many.

      This is within a few hours

      These are GF`s now this is how they are eve staying in the ISK war/race look at our geneal loss board and count how many POS modules you see

      Scroll down, all those losses were for all th kills up higher you see, now look at POS mods of systems they already swarmed.

      Its lol we are taking them behind the woodshed and raping them, no lube no ear nibbling. Problem is we need a few more good men :) Kadeshi wants GF`s they should come here, AAA will never Die as they will fall back to Stain just like real ruskis fall back from western Russia during winter and let the enemy kill themselves.

      AAA has Catch which is like a huge winter. We need Bros in the north to combat numbers to hold SOV but as you can see in straight up fights we dominate them.

      September 23, 2012 at 5:29 pm Reply
    3. AlllBlueeeee

      Yo stop taken the smarties, you have lost quite a few fights, and don't forget Evoke/Ewoks lolz.

      They have been smashed around a few times, and we noticed you popping by to save their arses.
      and this was Solar Inc and it's forces no CFC as you are trying to imply we are fighting together.
      Check a few Solar allies kill boards before you spout your bullshit (As you know all, I shouldn't have to inc for you).

      I have many CFC kills as EvokeEwoks by the way and dotbros killmails may I add.

      Chatting utter shit…

      September 23, 2012 at 9:52 pm Reply
      1. Solar sux

        Not sure what you mean, but think your trying to say that solar are not working with cfc, ifs that's what you mean then you are completely kidding yourself. Solar used to be well respected. Now erm no, they seem to struggle fighting dotbros while dotbros are fighting the biggest coalition of retards in eve. Just to burst your bubble more so, could of had a 3 way last night, 130 goons 150 solar & 100 dotbros wich does include evoke. That could of been a nice little 3 way, instead killed a fair few solar b4 goons got there. Then got blue balled as goons/solar joint at the hip, well as long as it suites cfc that is. Solar are vultures, nothing more, ther aims go as far as whoring a few scraps. What inspiration LOL

        September 23, 2012 at 10:05 pm Reply
        1. GreenKB

          I think Solar prefers to be 'well respected' by Cfc and/or Hbc, which seems pretty smart considering these blocks organize most null players and sov. So saying 'used to' is by no means objective but your very personal opinion which I doubt Solar cares about.

          September 23, 2012 at 10:38 pm Reply
          1. Epic

            That is the biggest problem right there, cfc does not have respect. People look at them and think meeh blob in numbers, no skill, napfest, no individual identity. Now cfc is exactly that, they are not a coalition of alliances as such, they are 1 huge alliance ruled by the word of goon master rmt lord Mitani. There is no identity individually, only cfc, there is no challenge or success individually, it as is not hard to see from this simplistic example that the actions/purpose of many are actually the actions of a few people's soul influence in the grand scheme of things benifiting those few leadership while the grunts are extatic with having the scraps & not having to think . Cfc enjoy vegetating and having no say or thought upon what they do. They do there masters bidding and believe what their master says even when facts stare them in the face. This is what awaits solar. GL solar, as soon as cfc sweeps you under the Rugg/integrates you your identity will be forgotten, could of been remembered in such a different way, doomed to go out in a sad fashion eventually, won't be any heroics like we are seeing from dotbros.

            September 24, 2012 at 1:04 am
          2. GreenKB

            Says who? You do, of course, but one more time: The majority of null players would disagree since they are in fact members of Cfc/Hbc.

            September 24, 2012 at 1:07 pm
          3. Truth

            Always going to be more dummies than people who can think for them selves,is natural.

            September 24, 2012 at 1:46 pm
  11. Kadeshi grunt

    I'm glad people are starting to realise how bad hbc propaganda is, Montolio constantly feeds everyone in his coilition utter lies and they all believe his dribble.
    Test have never proven themselves on any level of battle, they have always had goons or PL fcs sky marshalling, constantly fabricating excuses to shit on -A- and it's allies.
    Invade catch, Freeport ge-, you just don't get it.
    The killboard, the joy of blowing up ships, the teamwork is where -A-'s heart is, not smack talking in local and disrespecting anyone you feel is different.
    Montolio even made light of Vlade Randals mental health on kugu to look cool, who does that?
    Let hbc and cfc go and nullsec becomes a blue napfest full of bots and scammers.

    September 23, 2012 at 11:38 am Reply
  12. Draco

    You know you could probably turn your fortunes around dramatically if you rook some time out to recruit and train some new guys? I mean most of you can likely drive command ships right, so if you managed to get some new blood in cheep as chips cruiser in fleets with your experienced guys, they would get a nice selection of stat bonus as well as some experienced FC to help them learn how to Pew Pew :)

    And you have lots of new people to tell old stories to as well! Its win win, especially with all the improvements the seem to be making to the cruisers!

    September 23, 2012 at 12:11 pm Reply
  13. Gunny

    In 10 Years, i can honestly say i've never seen null in a more pathetic state than it is now. Oh and another thing, how are -A- the bad guys in all of this? Their not the ones who blued over half the map. PL and RaidenElite Alliances? Maybe at one time but not now they are but shadows of what they once were long ago thats why they joined test.

    September 23, 2012 at 12:53 pm Reply
  14. ROL Grunt

    TEST is biggest alliance in eve and shadoo praised the test leadership during the campaign for logistics…ROFL!! says it all really

    September 23, 2012 at 1:44 pm Reply
  15. a neutral guy

    Came expecting an update on the southern conflict from a soco guy,and in the end just saw propaganda from a irrelevant pet. Disapointed..

    September 23, 2012 at 2:49 pm Reply
  16. PVE sux

    Kadeshi came to our space 20+ other nite, sadly we couldnt engage as we was making Cascade look like twats, but it would of been a good fight I'm sure.

    September 23, 2012 at 3:47 pm Reply
    1. FAIL Noob

      Really I heard one lonely stealth bomber made a 60 man Tengu fleet pos up LOL. See you this evening if you find your balls little fella

      September 23, 2012 at 8:17 pm Reply
      1. Not a FAILd noob

        Dude…..dont make me link a BR. I might even link the Archie Pod Eject Navy Apoc loss too, wouldnt that be fun 😛 Or perhaps I'll link his carrier loss, tough to decide really.

        You guys gonna show up tho, this 3-4am shit is getting abit much to find ur gonna blob the fk out us with -A- considering ur alliance is sooo much bigger than ours to start with.

        Anyways, Kadeshi should roam our way more often, could be fun. Just dont bring a runaway fleet cause we are too lazy to chase :)

        September 24, 2012 at 1:14 am Reply
        1. FAIL noob

          Ummm we killed 7-8 bil worth of tengus so far and you thought how elite you are because you fly tengus and killed a moon mining pos lol OH KNOW NOT THE DYPSO MOON. Jesus man nobody wants to hear about either one of our alliances. What I can promise you is that if Cascade lives up to its name and fails to win this please note that you and the other 25 no named alliances had nothing to do with it. Props to you Nulli as I look forward to seeing you on the field for some fights as you are a worthy opponent and foe. "Predictably unthinkable but very serious about tapping some rhino while spawning with rebels coalition" keep trying to be important unlike you I already know we never have but then I'm not an elitist gypsy band renter I am just a man with a dream.

          With peace out bitches

          September 24, 2012 at 2:18 pm Reply
  17. Amy Rayanne

    So Kadeshi…does afk cloaking for ROL fall into your pvp dedication of looking for good fights? Or are you pussy whipped soco PETS. Ya thats what i figured afk cloak some more and if you want pvp bring more than 1 bomber at a time please.

    September 23, 2012 at 5:40 pm Reply
  18. Old Member

    Nothing in this post makes any sense none of Kadeshis core members are left and the alliance is nothing like it used to be (for the worse)

    September 23, 2012 at 6:08 pm Reply
  19. Just Bob

    Init regularly put up 80 man fleets in Curse before joining the HBC

    September 23, 2012 at 6:52 pm Reply
  20. Dave from FA sux cox


    September 23, 2012 at 10:55 pm Reply
  21. -A- on duty

    Alliances will grow until they do implode or be betrayed by allies.
    That has always been. Nothing new.

    September 23, 2012 at 11:30 pm Reply
  22. I remember Kadeshi when they flew in syndi and would fight everynight vs even us in CH, you really wanna fight the blobs come north.

    September 24, 2012 at 9:20 am Reply
  23. I remember Kadeshi when they flew in syndi and would fight everynight vs even us in CH, you really wanna fight the blobs come north.

    September 24, 2012 at 9:31 am Reply
  24. La LoLa

    SoCo failed cause Makalu and -A- in general have the same leadership and communicaiton level as a 3 years old kid, they never communicated or helped anone but themselves, also havign Makalu as FC is a horrid experience for anyone flyign with him.

    September 24, 2012 at 10:00 am Reply
  25. Raagun

    Lol have no backbone. Most of corps/alliances now on HBC side has something in common. They have been victims of some soco alliance. So now then your victims united against the oppressor you suddenly "ooohh blue blob".
    BOB died from their victims hands (twice?), RA (older) died, goons died twice(they in third reincarnation), Atlas died, NC died, maybe its time for -A- die at last? Just somewhy they believe that their loss is something eve can not bare. Its just circle of life in EVE

    September 24, 2012 at 11:21 am Reply
  26. c0iler

    Just Fyi,

    I submitted this story to that other "news" site as well, guess what… it didn't get posted. I thought they claimed to bring news that was unbiased?

    "We hope to provide as balanced a view as possible, so that those on all sides of Eve’s conflicts can come here for information, even if they sometimes disagree with the analysis of one writer or another."

    When wast the last soco related article? Just saying 😉

    September 24, 2012 at 11:53 am Reply
  27. Dave from FA

    Hey Kardeshians you should make terms with us now. We can sort you out a good deal maybe put you back in Cloud Ring like the good old days. You don't need to stay put and die like the other SOCO players. Do a Raiden and Init and come over to the winning side. We promise not to pop all your capitals once the war is over.

    September 24, 2012 at 6:29 pm Reply
    1. Truth

      David's a retard, has about much say in what happens as a ginger pigeon on my window sill. But yes he's right in 1 respect, if you want to jump boat and have no identity and blob and be vegetables you know where to go. Or ofc have fun and a challenge fighting the incompetent blob.

      September 24, 2012 at 6:36 pm Reply
      1. Dave from FA

        its Dave but nevermind that that I like your pluck. Keep up that spirit it gives us something to shoot and we throw you the odd bone to keep you interested

        See how this unintentional master slave thing works?

        September 24, 2012 at 6:57 pm Reply
        1. Truth

          David why don't you like being called David, that what yo mummy still call you when your being daft, posting daft things. Daft boy. One day when you get some experience within the game you will achieve something with an alliance that has its own identity. That is if you last the pain barrier, I.e. several months in cfc without getting totally bored to fuck, maybe even your intelligence as seemingly small as it is has an opportunity to expand above CFCs very limited expance of individual improvement. Once you have mastered f1 and anchor you may be ready to move upwards and onwards o7

          September 24, 2012 at 9:15 pm Reply
          1. Dave from FA

            Why so serious?

            Whats up did someone take or is about to take your space?

            September 24, 2012 at 9:35 pm
          2. David=Tardid

            David back to your room, let the big boys speak in private, no place for youngsters. If your good ill get you an action man for Christmas. Think we have all heard the same low level senceless trolling from teenagers for years now, wich is how cfc has got it's iconic name of being full of kids, retards & the coalition jumpers. Congrats, got a certificate of acheivement of lv 1 trolling, its on its way for you to put up on your bare trophies shelf.

            September 24, 2012 at 9:42 pm
  28. Nashau/Starstream

    This is my perspective of the southern conflict…. in song :)

    September 25, 2012 at 2:22 am Reply
  29. UdrankKoolaid

    couldn't have said it better myself. too many spineless players.

    September 25, 2012 at 2:44 am Reply
  30. old timer

    any news form silver snake enterprise ??

    September 25, 2012 at 3:08 am Reply
  31. Goon4lyf

    BoB should form again. At least they always put up good fights, unlike -A-.

    September 25, 2012 at 3:55 am Reply
  32. Perspective

    I do not understand how -a- posts get so many +s

    Yes, test propaganda has been strong, but 90% of it has been from your fearless leader screaming at his own people.

    At the end of the day, Makalu is the figure head of soco and he will bring you down because it is his words that polarize the undecided.

    September 23, 2012 at 4:33 am Reply
  33. gizzy

    -A- doesn't have pets, doesn't need pets and doesn't believe in pets.

    Cascade FAIL!..

    Had to call their overloards to fight their battles for them. When -A- showed up, Fail bailed to leave -A- fighing alone, and loosing

    September 23, 2012 at 11:40 am Reply
  34. NRDS_4life

    what ever fights test/goons scum bags should be a plus …

    September 23, 2012 at 7:26 am Reply
  35. Jita

    AAA are underdogs. You clowns are blobbers recruiting anything and everything and are joined at the hips to Goons. AAA will always be popular in comparison.

    September 23, 2012 at 8:38 am Reply
  36. TEST scum

    i love how much CVA and their pets idolise -A-

    September 23, 2012 at 10:45 am Reply
  37. FAIL faggot

    Unfortunately FAIL is not an -A- pet.

    As for the second part, stop feeling so damn full of yourself and get your head out of goons asses. Things usually aren't what they seem to be >.>

    September 23, 2012 at 12:54 pm Reply
  38. BntyHunter

    To be fair FAIL was a break off from AAA who wanted to do smaller PVP but it was a clean break so they stayed allies but Fail has some of the old AAA US/Euro leaders and they would leave in a second if they thought AAA was treating them badly.

    Test started as a pet, Yes this is true a Pet that did whatever GSF wanted in exchange for space when it was over while they were young and weak. I dont think they are Goon pets anymore but without PL Test is still only an Avg alliance, who participates more than GSF does in GSF`s northern campaign but still needs PL badly, AAA on its own would smoke Test.

    TBH the only thing I see Shadoo and Elise thinking is that with so many numbers its hard to fight a up hill battle always, sometimes in NCDOT I think how nice it would be if we hade a 9k Alli who we told how to fly and fit ships and they came to fight GSF with us.

    Anyways GSF shows about 15-30% of overal strength in "There" conquest of the north in which they will take credit, mostly its FA,FCON,Monkeys,Lawn,RZR.DEATH just look at battles and count the Supers etc. At least Test shows high volume of players with same size Alliance.

    But Test cant act like Goons didnt look at them as pets just like AAA "HAS THE OLD STYLE OF EVE PET/MASTER" GSF thought you Test would always be there pets, they never anticipated you growing into league with a group like PL, it would be like if FA/FCON/RZR joined NCDOT and we led military…I think GSF is now scared of HBC because they know they could barely beat PL like they are "Beating" us NCDOTers now add 9k pilots….

    Eventually when the TEC wars begin and HBC+Dekco fight it will be epic and IMO thats why GSF is helping solar, they know the day is coming when 1 side will take the rich north and the other will take the poor south, just like the US civil war :)

    September 23, 2012 at 5:43 pm Reply
  39. AlllBlueeeee

    CFC have not helped, Solar Inc, the MR4 fights, was due to FA on a roam and decide hey can we shoot dotbros too.

    Solar Inc forces are not all blue and we have different standings to each other.
    Mactep is the cement, that keeps us all singing from same hymn sheet.

    September 23, 2012 at 9:46 pm Reply
  40. Truth

    Your a retard, we think for our selves, b4 that fight started a 150 cfc not just FA fleet formed on a Titan ready to help solar. The average retard in cfc may think it was just to roam lmfao, but rest of eve isn't so stupid especially when we have eyes on you forming on Titan and spias in your leadership! The average dotbros grunt knows more of what's going on in cfc fleets than cfc grunts do. Very little info is given to you grunts, many lies are told to get numbers etc, we call this being misled & key in the dark while leadership reaps tech into their RL wallets. GG o7

    September 23, 2012 at 10:16 pm Reply
  41. Justchecking

    I can agree with everything but I have to ask something.
    Does anyone have ANY proof all that "reap tech into their real life wallets"?
    If you do have proof why dont you give it to CCP and let them take care of it once and for all?
    Please do not take my wrong. I want to see Goons and Test burn but all the mud about isk turning in to real money is getting REALLY old…

    September 24, 2012 at 2:27 am Reply
  42. fox

    Something that BOB aka. Raiden and PL used to have.

    September 26, 2012 at 4:17 am Reply
  43. The Kadeshi

    let us know the space you fly, maybe we can has one of our 'drunken weekend roams'

    September 26, 2012 at 1:24 pm Reply

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