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Leaked from a CVA forum, this details the adventure of Hidetoshi Rushd in his attempt at a cap free fight between CVA and -A- in 1-1.

Leaked: CVA to -A-: “Fight Us Maybe…Please?”

Discussion between Makalu (-A-) and Hidetoshi Rushd (a CVA rising star FC). Makalu wanted a repeat of the battle in GE- (a week before) between -A- and Providence coalition. Makalu is begging CVA to come fight again and flaming the CVA FC for not wanting to bring it (e.g. whelp his subcap fleet of 100+ into a hotdrop).

The CVA FC in his turn challenged Makalu to fight in a cynojammer system, from which Makalu eventually backed down. At one point in the chat Makalu actually begged Hidetoshi Rushd to allow -A- at least a minimum of 1 triage carrier, which says it all about -A-. The topic has caused many a discussion within Provi Coalition about the so-called skills of -A-. Providence fc’s have now been fired up more to pick more subcap brawls with -A- regardless of -A- having a substantial cap fleet. The convo (as copied from CVA forum):

[2012.07.14 22:05:43] Makalu Zarya: u are being terrble right now
[2012.07.14 22:05:46] Makalu Zarya: i never dropped caps on u
[2012.07.14 22:05:47] Hidetoshi Rushd: we are not whining about u guys bringing caps
[2012.07.14 22:05:52] Makalu Zarya: u have 100 people
[2012.07.14 22:05:54] Makalu Zarya: i have 60
[2012.07.14 22:05:55] Makalu Zarya: u won’t fight
[2012.07.14 22:05:58] Hidetoshi Rushd: we just not whelping another fleet
[2012.07.14 22:06:00] Makalu Zarya: that’s the bottom line
[2012.07.14 22:06:02] Hidetoshi Rushd: into caps
[2012.07.14 22:06:06] Makalu Zarya: what fucking caps?
[2012.07.14 22:06:19] Hidetoshi Rushd: why u so mad? lol
[2012.07.14 22:06:22] Makalu Zarya: we are in curse!
[2012.07.14 22:06:36] Hidetoshi Rushd: so?
[2012.07.14 22:06:43] Makalu Zarya: i don’t have caps
[2012.07.14 22:06:47] Makalu Zarya: i have 60 peple
[2012.07.14 22:06:48] Makalu Zarya: and 8 scimies
[2012.07.14 22:06:56] Hidetoshi Rushd: with 60 cyno’s lol?
[2012.07.14 22:07:00] Hidetoshi Rushd: dude chill out
[2012.07.14 22:07:45] Makalu Zarya: fuck it i’m going home
[2012.07.14 22:07:46] Makalu Zarya: this is retarded
[2012.07.14 22:10:07] Makalu Zarya: don’t put up fleets if u aren’t ready to fight a gang half your size
[2012.07.14 22:10:16] Makalu Zarya: earlier i had one triage carrier on standby
[2012.07.14 22:10:17] Makalu Zarya: …my own
[2012.07.14 22:10:23] Hidetoshi Rushd: il fight u anytime, half ur size
[2012.07.14 22:10:26] Makalu Zarya: and it was 60 vs 120
[2012.07.14 22:10:27] Hidetoshi Rushd: in a cynojammed system
[2012.07.14 22:10:35] Makalu Zarya: one triage carrier too much?
[2012.07.14 22:10:58] Hidetoshi Rushd: why u need a cap at all?
[2012.07.14 22:11:02] Hidetoshi Rushd: bring subcaps only
[2012.07.14 22:11:03] Makalu Zarya: 60 vs 120?
[2012.07.14 22:11:11] Hidetoshi Rushd: ill half my fleet and u can double it
[2012.07.14 22:11:18] Hidetoshi Rushd: and then ill still fight u
[2012.07.14 22:11:24] Hidetoshi Rushd: as long as its cynojammed
[2012.07.14 22:11:45] Makalu Zarya: coe to hed then
[2012.07.14 22:11:45] Makalu Zarya: come*
[2012.07.14 22:12:02] Hidetoshi Rushd: lol
[2012.07.14 22:12:07] Makalu Zarya: it’s jammed
[2012.07.14 22:12:09] Hidetoshi Rushd: ill give u a provi spot thats jammed
[2012.07.14 22:12:10] Makalu Zarya: ALWAYS
[2012.07.14 22:12:18] Hidetoshi Rushd: u up for it?
[2012.07.14 22:12:26] Makalu Zarya: fine where?
[2012.07.14 22:12:29] Makalu Zarya: but i’m coming with 15 scimies
[2012.07.14 22:13:07] Makalu Zarya: give me a system
[2012.07.14 22:13:10] Makalu Zarya: i’ll come there
[2012.07.14 22:13:30] Hidetoshi Rushd: hold
[2012.07.14 22:14:19] Makalu Zarya: i’m gonna be in HED
[2012.07.14 22:14:25] Makalu Zarya: make up your mind where u wanna fight
[2012.07.14 22:16:12] Hidetoshi Rushd: gimme a sec
[2012.07.14 22:16:18] Hidetoshi Rushd: fighting atm
[2012.07.14 22:22:51] Makalu Zarya: well i got a fleet waiting
[2012.07.14 22:25:50] Hidetoshi Rushd: wait till i get accurate number
[2012.07.14 22:26:07] Makalu Zarya: i got 70 at this point, you only have 50 running around for nothing
[2012.07.14 22:26:08] Hidetoshi Rushd: dont mind what we are doing
[2012.07.14 22:26:11] Makalu Zarya: and more people coming
[2012.07.14 22:26:25] Hidetoshi Rushd: stick to worrying about the cfc Mak, dont butt into CVA stuff
[2012.07.14 22:26:34] Hidetoshi Rushd: if we runr around all day its our thing
[2012.07.14 22:26:47] Hidetoshi Rushd: be patient and let me organise some numbers, still have 50 here
[2012.07.14 22:27:01] Hidetoshi Rushd: wanna come 1-1 in Provi? we will fight u there, whatever u have in fleet, doesnt matter
[2012.07.14 22:27:15] Makalu Zarya: not in Provi, come HED its jammed as well
[2012.07.14 22:27:21] Hidetoshi Rushd: lol why are u taking us for retards? and why are u mad at us for NOT being retards?
[2012.07.14 22:27:37] Hidetoshi Rushd: ur losing so much against the CFC u wanna make up for it by dropping caps on us to up ur kb?
[2012.07.14 22:27:43] Hidetoshi Rushd: bring ur damn subcap fleet into 1-1 and we fight it out there, will come down to fc skill … or cant u handle that?
[2012.07.14 22:27:56] Makalu Zarya: i’m standing down then
[2012.07.14 22:28:00] Makalu Zarya: this is pointless
[2012.07.14 22:28:07] Makalu Zarya: if u get 50 i’ll wipe u out
[2012.07.14 22:28:17] Makalu Zarya: not even worth it
[2012.07.14 22:28:20] Hidetoshi Rushd: dont worry about our numbers, get to 1-1 and we brawl without ur beloved caps
[2012.07.14 22:29:13] Makalu Zarya: well u can come to ge-
[2012.07.14 22:29:23] Makalu Zarya: i have no interest in running around looking for a fight all day either
[2012.07.14 22:29:50] Hidetoshi Rushd: i just offered u one with very reasonable terms, stop whining and bring it in 1-1

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113 Comments

  1. Random CFC Grunt

    The KB needs to be green! This is the sole purpose of AAA's/Makalu's existence…

    July 19, 2012 at 2:50 pm Reply
    1. -A- Grunt

      Yes, strange as it may sound we aim to prove the skill of our FC's, fleets and pilots, rather than just aiming to bring as many drooling retards into a system as possible and have them all press F1 until one side or the other is dead.

      July 19, 2012 at 7:52 pm Reply
      1. M_D_

        https://a-killed.me/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39

        Yup, looks pro to me. loosing 13b in 13 days. 1b per day. Def pro. Not even including his alts.

        July 19, 2012 at 8:45 pm Reply
        1. pilot

          If your main FC goes balls deep, which a lot of CFC pilots also do time and time again (like CALGARU and his balls-deep mach), what's the big problem? Expensive ships die all the time, it's just the way the game is. Some people want to have fun and be more risky. A single ship like a mach or bhaalgorn can make a difference.

          Now I don't care what side anyone is on, but how do you call Maka risk averse and other guys on CFC side risk averse when they bring 1 bill+ ships in the face of huge enemy gangs?

          July 19, 2012 at 9:25 pm Reply
  2. Amarr VICTOR.

    -A- are usually pretty awesome rumble bros. We fight each other and have alot of fun.

    Just, when you fight Makalu, you sort of assume there is going to be a hotdrop. When we sometimes choose that we don't feel like getting hotdropped that day, fighting Makalu drops lower of the "to do" list.

    Also, oddly, when we decline such an invitation, certain POS bits and bobs tend to get shot…

    July 19, 2012 at 2:50 pm Reply
    1. Random CFC Grunt

      So for AAA you're something like IRC is for us.

      July 19, 2012 at 2:52 pm Reply
      1. JJFats

        IRC cant be compared to CVA. CVA is newplayer friendly and investing in development of new players by applying NRDS and ofc their roleplay thing whatever you may think of it. IRC are just terribad wannabe big time nullsec alliance (but they fail) whereas CVA knows its limitation and does not act as if they are something they are not. CVA one of most humble alliances out there. Is a difference between being humble and being plain retarded.

        July 19, 2012 at 3:41 pm Reply
      2. Amarr VICTOR.

        Naw,

        unlike IRC, we actually tried to invade -A- once…didn't work out too well, but hey, we got a year of their terrible renters to torment.

        Really, whatever shit -A- and CVA may talk about each other – it's not typically in public – at the end of the day, we have fun shooting each other and that is really all that matters.

        July 19, 2012 at 6:19 pm Reply
        1. DRF is fun

          Also the CVA is a (ex-) goon and changed some very precise details in the conv. log. We love our CVA neighbors. Small gangs everyday and Gf all around. It is what CFC dont get. If you dont bring 20 times the numbers, you can actually have some real nice mutual PvP in 0.0

          But y, story verification isn't Eve24s strong point.

          July 19, 2012 at 7:38 pm Reply
    2. pilot

      Forget what you read on other sites about CVA and -A-'s relationship. There is much respect between the two and most of the time fights are arranged. Maka has even put caps on our fleet numbers and asks for only 20 or 30 guys to go fight a CVA fleet of similar size nearby. It doesn't always work out like this but when there's time, both sides to try to make it an even challenging fight.

      Small CVA gangs school small -A- gangs all the time, there are some very good veteran pilots on CVA side.

      July 19, 2012 at 9:28 pm Reply
  3. soco dude

    IIRC, we were chasing goons in Stain/Catch. While we were station spinning Maka convo'ed CVA's FC in the meantime.

    The carriers were triage carriers meant for repping in a different engagement. Not for hot dropping his fleet.

    Makaulu "ran" because he was wasting Maka's time. This retard couldnt find a cyno jammed in Provi so Maka gave up in getting a fight from him.

    July 19, 2012 at 2:53 pm Reply
    1. ROfL

      So when he gives Maka the system to meet in and Maka stands down because the CVA guy won't go to him was because he couldn't find a cyno jammed system?

      July 19, 2012 at 3:00 pm Reply
      1. soco dude

        He never gave Maka a Provi cyno jammed system. CVA's FC was still researching where to go. In the middle of his research Maka became frustrated and stopped trying to get a fight out of him.

        July 19, 2012 at 3:07 pm Reply
        1. Random CFC Grunt

          [2012.07.14 22:27:43] Hidetoshi Rushd: bring ur damn subcap fleet into 1-1 and we fight it out there, will come down to fc skill … or cant u handle that?
          [2012.07.14 22:27:56] Makalu Zarya: i’m standing down then
          [2012.07.14 22:28:00] Makalu Zarya: this is pointless

          Your response is of course valid.

          July 19, 2012 at 3:13 pm Reply
          1. OMGFrigates Warpout

            [2012.07.14 22:27:01] Hidetoshi Rushd: wanna come 1-1 in Provi? we will fight u there, whatever u have in fleet, doesnt matter

            July 19, 2012 at 3:29 pm
          2. JJFats

            You have to give it to this CVA FC, he is good. He allows Maka to bring twice the size of fleet he has and he will still fight him. Maybe because he knows Maka sucks as an FC. And Rushd being ex-old NC/former CFC having learned ofc from a few of the best FCs ingame (Vee, galaktor, zeturi, Laz, Vile, xeno) he would probably apply same tactics and composition. CVA morale winner on this.

            July 19, 2012 at 3:32 pm
          3. pilot

            Maka had HALF, and in bcs. CVA FC had twice, and in hellcats.

            July 19, 2012 at 9:36 pm
          4. Booyeah

            Confirming Drakes are now hellcats.

            July 19, 2012 at 10:01 pm
          5. Facts

            The -A- fleet was waiting for them for over 35 minutes, and it also warped off from station to allow them to undock. Turns out after waiting for nearly an hour, you don't want to wait anymore so you stand it down and go do something else.

            July 19, 2012 at 9:57 pm
        2. TestGruntBestGrunt
          July 19, 2012 at 5:29 pm Reply
        3. scrublords

          it dawns to me that maka might be as retarded as you and took "1-1" not for a system but the announcement of the enemy fc to bring even numbers.

          July 19, 2012 at 11:38 pm Reply
          1. Ash_Haakari

            "Hidetoshi Rushd: wanna come 1-1 in Provi? we will fight u there, whatever u have in fleet, it doesnt matter"

            " Hidetoshi Rushd: dont worry about our numbers, get to 1-1 and we brawl"

            It seems to dawn on me that you are retarded.

            July 20, 2012 at 12:12 am
      2. Grunt

        Which system? Please tell us here which system it was, so we can all revel in the knowledge which system -A- refused to fight in.

        July 19, 2012 at 4:20 pm Reply
        1. Random CFC Grunt

          [2012.07.14 22:27:01] Hidetoshi Rushd: wanna come 1-1 in Provi? we will fight u there, whatever u have in fleet, doesnt matter

          1-1 ? as in http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/1-1I53

          July 19, 2012 at 6:12 pm Reply
  4. rompompom

    Cant believe this guy is leading -a-. There's only one way for -a- with this guy behind the wheel – down.

    July 19, 2012 at 2:57 pm Reply
    1. Random CFC Grunt

      …to stain…

      July 19, 2012 at 3:08 pm Reply
    2. No bias

      The average CFC grunt has been so brainwashed about Maka that it's mindboggling. People really need to forget about the two sides for a moment, step back and understand that this is as much a propaganda war than anything (mostly from the CFC side).

      Maka is a great fc and for example just last week he handed out (50+) completely fitted Rokhs for 100 mill each to any alliance member that wanted to buy them. This is just a single thing that he has done, but CFC has to cling to comms recordings and spun-up things as part of a major mud-slinging fest to undermine their opponent.

      July 19, 2012 at 9:43 pm Reply
      1. UdrankKoolaid

        Not to mention him and others makes sure our own alliance doesn't rape cage people on prices in our home systems, actually making it somewhat affordable for people to pvp via nullsec markets. Does maka rage? Sure does…he's an FC trying at all costs to win and to keep his fleet alive…. fortunately for -A-….we have our big boy pants on and don't cry in the corner when we are yelled at.

        July 20, 2012 at 5:26 am Reply
  5. russiansobr

    Everyone allready knew Makalu and AAA are more risk averse and cowardly then Bobby Atlas and his band of megacowards of olde.

    July 19, 2012 at 2:57 pm Reply
  6. -A- grunt

    THIS is so LOL

    Writer doesnt even understand what happened here and its not worth to mention…

    I was in Makas fleet and he wanted to fight CVA on even terms (0.5:1 that is….) to give us some fun in drakes…

    See this chat and how this CVA FC was struggeling around.

    Btw…-A- did not lose much against DECO (and it will always be DECO – whatever u call yourselve!!!). -A- won all recent fights in Catch and Stain though they were outblobbed 2:1 or almost 3:1! Check killboards yourselve if u dont believe.

    July 19, 2012 at 3:04 pm Reply
    1. lalalala

      AAA KB or eve-kill.net ???

      July 19, 2012 at 3:19 pm Reply
      1. Facts

        BR-DOC

        July 19, 2012 at 9:55 pm Reply
    2. Space Jam

      Tell us more about killing worthless Drake blobs. In the defense of VFK we bought out every single Maelstrom hull in the game and buried PL under Ten Thousand drake corpses. Killing 400 is a tiny drop in the bucket for what is about to helicopter dick their way through catch.

      Winning the ISK war or having a better KDR is just pointless goalpost moving that you delude yourselves with when you're losing.

      July 19, 2012 at 3:23 pm Reply
      1. Will

        +1 for using the phrase "helicopter dick" to describe use of military force.

        July 19, 2012 at 10:02 pm Reply
      2. scared

        wait, are you referring to CFC evac from the south, minus TEST?

        July 20, 2012 at 3:02 am Reply
  7. (10:05:31 AM) EnderCapitalG: makalu is basically saying "Fine, you don't want us to use capships? Then come to HED-GP (which is like one bridge from our capital system)"

    July 19, 2012 at 3:06 pm Reply
    1. DRF is fun

      and 3 jumps out of theirs :) with a highsec gate. soooooo wtf you trying to say

      July 19, 2012 at 7:39 pm Reply
      1. yep

        he's still saying its cynojammed…. unless you think CVA is afraid of -A- bringing in a load of "capital" freighters to pwn them with………….

        July 19, 2012 at 8:25 pm Reply
    2. eryerty

      hed is cyno jammed idiot

      July 19, 2012 at 7:55 pm Reply
      1. anom

        that dosent mean that there arent triage carriers or the like inside the station.

        July 20, 2012 at 1:32 am Reply
  8. AmarrHardin

    To be honest I don't like this. CVA should not be arranging fights with anyone. I get the impression someone is just stirring shit with this whole story…

    July 19, 2012 at 3:07 pm Reply
    1. OMGFrigates Warpout

      FCs arrange fights for fleets with other known FCs. Anyone that doesn't believe that to be the case is deluding themself. If you have 50 or 60 people in a fleet and your people are looking for a gewdfghtz!, FCs are gonna do what they can to make that fight happen. Thats just the way it is.

      July 19, 2012 at 3:27 pm Reply
      1. AmarrHardin

        Personally I don't think CVA FCs should be arranging fights. Yes I know it happen sometimes but it is better when it is 'natural'. We get enough fights as it is to be honest. Even in the old days CVA and UK very rarely fought 'arranged' fights – just turned up to various events and duked it out with whatever we have. Ararnging fights is just e-peen stroking for the FCs…

        July 19, 2012 at 5:29 pm Reply
        1. Anonamouse

          its a way to test things out with a bigger group of people without either:
          a) starting a war with someone or
          b) hopeing that you will bump into an oposing fleet of equal or greater size.

          its good to see FC's that want to test themselves and those that they command.

          July 19, 2012 at 6:59 pm Reply
    2. abc123

      I hate to say it but Hardin is right. It is a not fair to the pilots who put there ship and trust to the FC thinking he's skilled to get them home in one peice. If you want premade fight join RvB or Eve Uniy. But it sad to say Makalu is ours to put up with and he does has his good points when he's not whining. But I guess every Alliance has there Barney Fife's to deal with.

      July 19, 2012 at 5:19 pm Reply
      1. LOLerkatz

        Yes Because everyone that sits in a fleet would much rather do shit all and just jump endlessly gate to gate instead of engage in a fleet fight.

        July 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm Reply
  9. dobin

    I have to say the entire Delve 'campaign' has been an unmitigated yawnfest. Only saved by comedy AAA comms such as this which we have seen the like of since Baghdad Bob said 'what tanks?'

    July 19, 2012 at 3:21 pm Reply
  10. ...

    It would be funny if the cfc would drop onto -A- after they dropped on CVA. 😛

    July 19, 2012 at 3:42 pm Reply
  11. none

    Sounds like someone wants to see CVA curb stomped by major coalition blob.

    July 19, 2012 at 4:04 pm Reply
    1. JJFats

      are you retarded? this just 2 fcs brawling over a brawl that didnt happen.

      July 19, 2012 at 4:06 pm Reply
  12. CVA is dying

    CVA is on the way out. CVA is the worst alliance left in the game.

    CVA guys applying to mvn.lol but there turned down.

    July 19, 2012 at 4:12 pm Reply
    1. JJFats

      you dont have a clue at all.

      July 19, 2012 at 4:28 pm Reply
    2. Texas

      The one point you have missed here.

      CVA is what defines "Respect". When was the last time you heard of them scamming? They are a great group of standup pilots and players. Most vets of Eve have been influenced one way or another by CVA. MANY pilots had their first taste of Null out in the NRDS world of Provi with at least a small assurance that every asshat with a ship wasn't going to be out to gun them down.

      Bloviate and troll all you want. But they deserve some respect.

      July 19, 2012 at 4:57 pm Reply
      1. buggrit

        It was an amazing time, when people used to run around in cruisers without being laughed off. Whatever one wishes to say of them, nobody can deny – CVA brought a lot to the game.

        July 19, 2012 at 6:11 pm Reply
      2. Amarr VICTOR.

        We put up with NRDS and null-n00bies (well, at least the non-something awful and Reddit ones) so the rest of you don't have too.

        Saw what you want about Provi, but it gets new folks into null and there is always pew pew to be had.

        July 19, 2012 at 6:22 pm Reply
  13. -A- grunt

    [2012.07.14 22:11:45] Makalu Zarya: coe to hed then
    [2012.07.14 22:11:45] Makalu Zarya: come*
    [2012.07.14 22:12:02] Hidetoshi Rushd: lol
    [2012.07.14 22:12:07] Makalu Zarya: it’s jammed
    [2012.07.14 22:12:09] Hidetoshi Rushd: ill give u a provi spot thats jammed
    [2012.07.14 22:12:10] Makalu Zarya: ALWAYS
    [2012.07.14 22:12:18] Hidetoshi Rushd: u up for it?
    [2012.07.14 22:12:26] Makalu Zarya: fine where?
    [2012.07.14 22:12:29] Makalu Zarya: but i’m coming with 15 scimies
    [2012.07.14 22:13:07] Makalu Zarya: give me a system
    [2012.07.14 22:13:10] Makalu Zarya: i’ll come there

    Which is followed by 15 min of waiting for the CVA guy to give him a cynojammed system in provi where to fight. One would expect that an FC for CVA would know which systems are cynojemmed and could give one right away. I'm not surprised that Makalu run out of patience…

    July 19, 2012 at 4:14 pm Reply
    1. JJFats

      obviously you cant read. CVA fleet was fighting during this convo.

      July 19, 2012 at 4:35 pm Reply
  14. CFC should take provi from cva so they can be closer to AAA 😛

    July 19, 2012 at 4:24 pm Reply
    1. CFC could have provi in a few days if the really wanted. Make it a thunderdome arena for empire dwellers to come for non sov grind fights.

      July 19, 2012 at 4:25 pm Reply
      1. JJFats

        To be closer to AAA you have to take Catch, so you will be closer to Stain.

        July 19, 2012 at 4:31 pm Reply
        1. GOOG

          ^^Confirming JJFats best troll evar.
          Also he is fat.

          July 19, 2012 at 11:52 pm Reply
      2. Cunty

        ROFL YOUR NAME IS DAVID GROGAN… AND YOU ARE IN THE GOONS..
        THANK YOU FOR THIS GIFT OF COMEDY MY RETARDED BRO…

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        July 19, 2012 at 10:22 pm Reply
    2. BobFaggot

      You are terrible at posting.

      July 19, 2012 at 4:58 pm Reply
  15. Clown Spotter

    That CVA FC must be really good. He is in a fight and all while he is fighting does he organize *another* fight and *without* having a full fleet on his side. That is the classic stuff all heros are made off. Right there!

    July 19, 2012 at 4:27 pm Reply
  16. NRDS guy
    July 19, 2012 at 4:29 pm Reply
    1. Will

      http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&… for the full fight across 3 systems.

      July 19, 2012 at 10:09 pm Reply
  17. Phigmeta

    Rushd is an idiot The day his dumb ass was sent to high sec was validation of everything I said about him.

    He talks a lot of shit but hugs the undock like a bitch.

    July 19, 2012 at 4:39 pm Reply
    1. JJFats

      lol sounds like someone is butthurt.

      July 19, 2012 at 4:41 pm Reply
    2. blahhhh

      hmmmm……Sounds exactly like -A-.

      July 19, 2012 at 5:03 pm Reply
  18. Lobo

    To be honest I kinda hate these CVA guys encountered them a few times for a few gate camps and bait and switch tactics. I'm not very surprised though they didn't take maka up on this since they don't seem to like straight up fights. With -A- running guys we've read some of the articles here about -a- I think they have dropped a super once so far so I doubt for a small 50-100 man gang they would especially since at times 200+ goon fleets have warped in and no super or caps were called in.

    July 19, 2012 at 4:54 pm Reply
    1. anon

      it was maka as didnt take it, not cva.

      July 19, 2012 at 5:40 pm Reply
  19. liver spots

    Makalu is such a pussy. " Don't form a fleet if your just going to stand down". Man, that sounds so familiar….

    July 19, 2012 at 5:00 pm Reply
  20. JJFats

    looks like they went after AAA after all: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14

    July 19, 2012 at 5:07 pm Reply
    1. Neddy

      That was other FC's, who never will do a pre-arranged fight.

      July 19, 2012 at 6:35 pm Reply
      1. JJFats

        except this one was arranged after all. Way to go neddy

        July 20, 2012 at 12:43 am Reply
  21. Glenn

    "At one point in the chat Makalu actually begged Hidetoshi Rushd to allow -A- at least a minimum of 1 triage carrier, which says it all about -A-." – CVA retard

    Can some point out the begging to me ?

    [2012.07.14 22:10:16] Makalu Zarya: earlier i had one triage carrier on standby
    [2012.07.14 22:10:17] Makalu Zarya: …my own
    [2012.07.14 22:10:23] Hidetoshi Rushd: il fight u anytime, half ur size
    [2012.07.14 22:10:26] Makalu Zarya: and it was 60 vs 120
    [2012.07.14 22:10:27] Hidetoshi Rushd: in a cynojammed system
    [2012.07.14 22:10:35] Makalu Zarya: one triage carrier too much?

    July 19, 2012 at 5:09 pm Reply
    1. some facts

      You do realize in this, -A-'s 60 were in drakes/shield bcs and scimis, and CVA's 120 were in abaddons and guardians?

      July 19, 2012 at 9:34 pm Reply
      1. JJFats

        cva was in drake/cane, dickhead

        July 19, 2012 at 10:49 pm Reply
  22. Former Stainwagon

    Tek Entaru build a war machine and lead it to take back -A- space from Init and Co2. When Tek went home, Maka took over the war machine and walks around as though he built it. -A- is fallin apart on the inside, Herc can't even be bothered to log in more than once a month, and when is the last time anyone saw him in a fleet? All Maka knows how to do is yell at pilots for doing stupid shit, while he does stupid shit, blob capitals, or run. I'm sure Maka will call it a glorious retreat to LGK, when the truth is, they just hide there until the big bads go away. What would happen if CFC doesn't leave? Will he lead -A- to glorious victory? Probably not. He'll sit in station and yell about how they don't have enough logis.

    July 19, 2012 at 5:18 pm Reply
  23. Barhopper

    Dropping carriers on bomber fleets is pro.

    July 19, 2012 at 5:21 pm Reply
  24. herpadurpadurp

    Confirmed no matter how shit CVA may ever be, Mak is a total faggot in all and any interactions he has.

    July 19, 2012 at 5:47 pm Reply
  25. Makalu_Zarya

    very sad day for CVA…editing personal chat logs…out of all the people in game for CVA to do this is rather sad

    [ 2012.07.14 22:18:26 ] izidoor defluiter > Maka will arrange sommething for tuesday
    [ 2012.07.14 22:18:43 ] izidoor defluiter > or try sommething ath least
    [ 2012.07.14 22:20:51 ] Makalu Zarya > the only way u get better is by losing fleets…not by running away from a fleet half your size
    [ 2012.07.14 22:21:42 ] Hidetoshi Rushd > Mak, ill fight any fleet thats twice my size anyday as long as I know theres no caps
    [ 2012.07.14 22:21:50 ] Hidetoshi Rushd > i dont blame u guys for bringing caps
    [ 2012.07.14 22:21:53 ] Makalu Zarya > no u won't
    [ 2012.07.14 22:22:01 ] Makalu Zarya > i'm sitting here half your size
    [ 2012.07.14 22:22:09 ] Makalu Zarya > without any cap support whatsoever
    [ 2012.07.14 22:22:18 ] Makalu Zarya > the only triage carrier i had 2 hours ago was mine
    [ 2012.07.14 22:22:20 ] Hidetoshi Rushd > bring twice as much i will give u a system in a sec and we will bring it
    [ 2012.07.14 22:22:51 ] Makalu Zarya > well i got a fleet waiting
    [ 2012.07.14 22:25:30 ] Hidetoshi Rushd > ppl are dropping fleet
    [ 2012.07.14 22:25:39 ] Hidetoshi Rushd > all the eu tz guys are logging
    [ 2012.07.14 22:25:48 ] Makalu Zarya > that's cause instead of giving them a fight u made them run around for 2 hours
    [ 2012.07.14 22:25:51 ] Hidetoshi Rushd > wait till i get accurate number
    [ 2012.07.14 22:26:07 ] Makalu Zarya > i got 70 at this point
    [ 2012.07.14 22:26:09 ] Hidetoshi Rushd > dont mind what we are doing
    [ 2012.07.14 22:26:11 ] Makalu Zarya > and more people coming
    [ 2012.07.14 22:26:26 ] Hidetoshi Rushd > stick to worrying about the cfc Mak, dont butt into CVA stuff
    [ 2012.07.14 22:26:35 ] Hidetoshi Rushd > if we runr around all day its our thing
    [ 2012.07.14 22:26:48 ] Hidetoshi Rushd > be patient and let me organise some numbers, still have 50 here
    [ 2012.07.14 22:26:56 ] Makalu Zarya > i'm standing down then
    [ 2012.07.14 22:26:59 ] Makalu Zarya > this is pointless
    [ 2012.07.14 22:27:03 ] Makalu Zarya > if u get 50 i'll wipe u out
    [ 2012.07.14 22:27:09 ] Makalu Zarya > not even worth it
    [ 2012.07.14 22:27:22 ] Hidetoshi Rushd > if u wait we get more
    [ 2012.07.14 22:29:12 ] Makalu Zarya > well u can come to ge-
    [ 2012.07.14 22:29:23 ] Makalu Zarya > i have no interest in running around looking for a fight all day either

    no fight was ever offered…i was left hanging waiting for one.

    July 19, 2012 at 6:01 pm Reply
    1. Makalu_Zarya

      The conversation logs started about half an hour earlier with a couple CVA old timers, I will post them after I get their permission to do so.

      July 19, 2012 at 6:09 pm Reply
      1. JJFats

        who says you didnt alter it? youd do anything to save your face Mak

        July 19, 2012 at 6:48 pm Reply
        1. Makalu_Zarya

          I'm sorry i didn't realize i needed to save face in front of anyone.

          Believe what you may, I for one don't care…the dude is ex-cfc, so tbh i'm not surprised at all. Also re-editing the logs as a rebuke to a post is fucking stupid…so like i said…what you believe is up to you.

          July 19, 2012 at 7:06 pm Reply
          1. AmarrHardin

            I just went to check what is on the CVA forum – and Makalu is right – the whole logs have not been posted. However it seems that the editing is more the responsibility of whoever 'leaked' this than Hidetoshi who actually posted a much longer version.

            Basically this whole thing stinks… As I said elsewhere I don't agree with arranged fights personally (taht is just my opinion) not alliance policy – but chat logs like this just make everyone look like idiots.

            July 19, 2012 at 7:53 pm
          2. Makalu_Zarya

            if that's the case then my apology to him

            July 19, 2012 at 7:55 pm
          3. XXX

            Respect for actually being an alliance leader which openly faces the EVE community when possible.

            July 20, 2012 at 12:52 am
          4. that's how it is

            Unfortunately editing chat logs and comms recordings in an attempt to publicly hurt pilot reputations has been mainstay for CFC for ages.

            July 19, 2012 at 9:46 pm
  26. DRF is fun

    Maybe next time confirm the logs first :) Just suggesting

    July 19, 2012 at 6:07 pm Reply
  27. dude

    well if i was the cva FC i too would have denied the HED- Fight. since hed is -a- sov and they can shut the jammer down to drop caps in…
    just sayin.

    also its rather amusing that half of eve hates CVA for not being retards/pricks/brainless monkeys like sone of the socalled bigboy who just blot out the sun with their muppets. it is a game afterall and those guys know how to have fun their way. keep it up guys!

    Amarr Victor!

    July 19, 2012 at 7:18 pm Reply
  28. -A- FC

    CVA and -a- are good friends we organise sparring fights all the time like this.

    Problem is organising a equal fight were either side could lose is difficult cause its hard to turn people down from either fleet. Either CVA out blob -a- and we need caps or -a- has equal numbers with CVA in kitchen sink fleet or some terrible new fleet concept and we all know CVA will die horribly.

    We love CVA when they bring a real fleet you know they will give you a fight, big balls good heart.

    TBO if we brought caps and CVA brought caps and we escalated it CVA could bring the numbers in terms of dread/ carrier fleet (ofc not supers). The problem is it would probably attract everyone else to the fight. Also CVA caps are risk adverse for these very reasons.

    July 19, 2012 at 9:32 pm Reply
    1. laughingatallofyou

      Thank you sir for posting the most relevant and honest comment on this thread. If you live in Providence and Catch and you haven't figured out that its a friendly hate from up above and hidden in between, you aren't seeing the forest for the trees. Cheers for all the gf's guys, keep em coming for many years.

      July 21, 2012 at 7:20 am Reply
    2. Stainless

      You called someones caps risk adverse.

      EN 24 comments, never stop delivering this gold

      July 23, 2012 at 10:26 am Reply
  29. FAgetridofyourspies

    At one point in the chat Makalu actually begged Hidetoshi Rushd to allow -A- at least a minimum of 1 triage carrier, which says it all about -A-.
    look mommy another CFC propaganda post,… bye eve24news

    July 19, 2012 at 9:48 pm Reply
    1. noob

      Maka knew he was outnumbered 2:1 and made it clear there was one carrier on standby, so what?

      July 20, 2012 at 2:09 am Reply
  30. Facts

    Something that the article failed to point out:

    -A- were in shield bcs and scimis (mostly drakes). CVA was in hellcat abaddons and guardians. Turns out this is a pretty important fact that should be in an article like this… but it was left out. If you want confirmation on this, you can ask CVA.

    July 19, 2012 at 9:49 pm Reply
    1. JJFats

      cva was in a drake/cane fleet, dickhead

      July 19, 2012 at 10:45 pm Reply
  31. Just Bob

    ' At one point in the chat Makalu actually begged Hidetoshi Rushd to allow -A- at least a minimum of 1 triage carrier, which says it all about -A-.'
    Completely false and biased.

    July 19, 2012 at 10:42 pm Reply
  32. Eirene

    CVA shoots at people?

    July 19, 2012 at 11:19 pm Reply
  33. crap FC's on EN24

    Makalu tends to be retarded a welp fleets a lot….even before cfc…I liked the com leak the other day which he is talking shit about test then gets his back door pushed in a little bit later in a T3 fleet…..pure gold

    July 20, 2012 at 3:56 am Reply
  34. UdrankKoolaid

    I was in Maka's fleet…don't really understand what all the fuss is about. We handicap'ed out fleet, actually cutting off people from joining in order to fight a CVA fleet double our size with drakes no less. There was talk about dropping 1 triage carrier for support but I believe it was scrapped after there was little to no hope of getting a fight for the evening. This was suppose to be just a fun little fight with CVA….how it got turned into this is beyond me.

    July 20, 2012 at 5:13 am Reply
  35. Random Monkey

    saying that you -a- guys have won every fight in catch isn't really saying much…

    lets see….

    1) you have your support right there, not half way across the Galaxy

    2) you guys use Triage carriers, RIGHT ON AN UNDOCK… but the CFC are killing those as well.

    3) you won't move off your damn station in GE- and when you do you use grid bugs.
    4) you -a- guys do know how to undock… right….

    Atleast when the cfc brings you damn fights we leave the caps at home…

    July 20, 2012 at 5:24 am Reply
    1. derp

      blame the grid bugs hurr durr

      July 22, 2012 at 10:08 pm Reply
    2. -A- man

      lol @ this.. fucking goonfaggot propaganda.. stupid fuckin retard… oh hey it is easy btw to put a game into easy mode.. especially with your 40 goonfag titans and 100 moms.. and 3000 man subcap fleet.. the only offensive ability you faggots have really, is to completely over whelm the grid to the piont of crashing it.. you couldnt bait eggs with a lump hammer on your own.. you dont play the same game we do.. you are part of an organisation thats very aim is to 'break' our beloved eve online.. so fuck you assholes.. every dog has its day boy.. and cfc' day is passing.. oh.. and .. winter is coming faggots.. its only around the corner! :)

      July 23, 2012 at 11:35 am Reply
      1. i agree with

        ^^ this

        July 23, 2012 at 11:38 am Reply
  36. homeless

    Yeah ok, we put up with all the terribly incorrect battle reports and stuff – but posting totally fabricated chat logs is kinda fucked. Riv man, please remove this vomit.. I think -A- are shit but seriously gay move by whoever posted this faggotry.

    July 20, 2012 at 9:39 am Reply
    1. JJFats

      logs have been verified by cva, seems like both mak and rushd have posted the correct ones on their own forums. prolly some cfc spy that altered this

      July 20, 2012 at 10:05 am Reply
  37. CVA allied

    Station camping us just as we begin to form up isn't the best way to get a fight. Give us a hour or two to warm up and we would gladly fight AAA. Asking our FC to engage you right off the bat with the risk of being hotdropped only lowers his chance to get anyone joining him the week after.

    July 20, 2012 at 11:51 am Reply
  38. hurf

    Why are they even talking to CVA to arrange a fight? Are they that bad they can't roam and get it their-selves? Oh, right, they got curbstomped by Test so now they're whining to CVA…

    July 20, 2012 at 7:05 pm Reply
    1. Derp

      Lol you nailed it, test curb stomped -A -, funny tho, barely seen a test FC leading any big fight lately. Guess when you label Emo queens like rhicter an FC er, trolololol

      July 20, 2012 at 10:15 pm Reply
    2. JJFats

      funny thing is that CVA is been kicking -A- ass this pas week

      July 20, 2012 at 10:30 pm Reply
  39. putnewsmouncons

    wonderful…

    February 23, 2013 at 11:54 am Reply

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