Metagaming in ATX. The story goes that several ATX teams were brazenly asking for moves to their practice systems in the support channel on SISI. So, by simply sitting on SISI for an extended period of time, the practice systems for many of the ATX were identified. At that point, individuals simply had to fly out to the practice system and scan down the teams in practice. In this specific case, it was NCdot. They were not… pleased. So, they did what most people in Eve would do “kill him and pod him” – except you can’t do that on SISI. It was the SISI version of can flipping. Using the mechanics against an unsuspecting opponent. To the other teams out there, this is legitimate. ISD/GM/Devs will give you the boot for killing neuts in any unsanctioned systems. If someone crashes your practice, you will need to deal with it in a less Eve way, and not kill them with fire. Fair warning.

Here’s the chat log:

AriesBar > gf
pete 85 > gf
Kayhan Sid > gf
BigBeat > kill all wrecks
ISD X > k guys, i thought i told you what the rules are 10min ago?
mindblow > what fucking rules dude?
mindblow > wtf
mindblow > who makes rules on sisi?
ISD X > goodbye mindblow
Colonel Kurtz > Mr ISD kindly stop moving my team mates around
Mafia Matt > wow
Mafia Matt > test alt detected
Colonel Kurtz > low blow mate
Darklord QuiGonJinn > man mindblow i sayed that he is cloacked in system
Kayhan Sid > its allowed to spy but not to shot the spy…..
1koozya > dude really we r kinda freaking training here
AriesBar > ffs
Mafia Matt > and he leaves
1koozya > thats just gay
Darklord QuiGonJinn > no he isnt display in lokal
Darklord QuiGonJinn > but he is in lokal
ISD X > k be warned. i have all your names as being made aware of the rules
ISD X > further violations might result in moves or bans
Keiko Agenda > quick question isd ?
Halau Tikmal > well i guess you might be a pet off one of the teams we play ?
1koozya > u already moved our teamates
Mafia Matt > complaint being lodged
Mafia Matt > thank you for your time
1koozya > its not like we actually neeed them
ISD X > i am not involved in politics
Halau Tikmal > RIGHT
Mafia Matt > yeah right lol
Colonel Kurtz > so him interrupting our testing is fine?
AriesBar > TRUE
Colonel Kurtz > but us shooting him is not
Colonel Kurtz > excellent
Keiko Agenda > is it possible for ccp to get next years at alliances a septerte system to train without spays, so the at will get more competetive again ?
Mafia Matt > probing us down and warping in on us testing is aggressive
Mafia Matt > we will shoot
Neonemesis > so beein in front of station is aggressive for you?
ISD X > Mafia Matt i dont see agression in watching
Halau Tikmal > to scan when we undock
Halau Tikmal > yes
Mafia Matt > disrupting testing by saying shit in local to try to fuck us up is
Halau Tikmal > lol well i see problem you being here to disturb our traning
ISD X > do you get an aggression flag?
Mafia Matt > its fine X, we’ll be making a complaint
Kayhan Sid > its allowed to spy but not to shot the spy…..nice rules
RedShadow > i did, because you are disturbing my testing here mr isd
Neonemesis > :tinfoil hat:
Halau Tikmal > you moving ppl yes thats flaging me
AriesBar > u done here
DJ Phaim > brick isd best isd
Neonemesis > he moved people because they breached rules of SiSi after telling you…
shgn > u get agression flag on your face ISD
Mafia Matt > theres a difference between aggression and disturbing stuff
1koozya > can we wardec them?
Miranoff > what in the hell are you doing ISD nerd? go abuse your power somewhere else.
Shadow Raziel > its not like these people are innocent testers who need your help
Darklord QuiGonJinn > hey ist possilble to petition ICD?
Mafia Matt > 6-c >>>>>>>>>>>>>> way mr isd
Halau Tikmal > yes
Miranoff > *logs show nothing*
Mafia Matt > test isd best isd
Mafia Matt > checking out our fits, disrupting our training
Darklord QuiGonJinn > ya
Halau Tikmal > you mean spy isd best isd
Darklord QuiGonJinn > thats wile they still set and not disqualifiled from ATX
ISD X > please note that scanning is not aggression, but repeated bumping when being told to stop is
RedShadow > pfff
shgn > omg
1koozya > lol how hte hell
1koozya > r u kidding me?
Mafia Matt > LOL
ISD X > feel free to file as many complaints as you like
RedShadow > this is ridicoulous
Bhazhakhain > trololol
Darklord QuiGonJinn > kidding me
Phyrron > ok we undertand but pls leave us now
Colonel Kurtz > well I cant undock my carrier becauses hes bumping me
shgn > did u your brain scan?
Mafia Matt > trololololololololololol
1koozya > bubmping is an agression?
1koozya > hahahahaah
Mafia Matt > test isd best isd
1koozya > u should be a comedian
RedShadow > +1
ISD X > sisi is for testing – for bugs – this is not for polics, leave your wars behind
BigBeat > (^_^)
Mafia Matt > why don’t you go do what your supposed to be doing instead of trolling us
Amaar Chulla > I want to report Neonnemesis. He is locking me, not making me cloak. THAT is agressive.
1koozya > bumpoing is politics?
1koozya > bump politics ftw i guess
Neonemesis > i just unlocked you so you can cloak YW
1koozya > can i still bump station thou?
Colonel Kurtz > wars? hah do you not follow the tournament sir?
Darklord QuiGonJinn > alter merkst du noch was für einen scheiß du hier laberst?
Halau Tikmal > Fuck this isd….. he dosent have a fucking clue to do he’s job…. We are testing bugs… atm we testing you and you failed so many times
Keiko Agenda > no wars intended we are trinaing for ATX and get disturbed by some ppl …..

BigBeat > hurr durr ATX = politics , thats meta gaming
ISD X > if you want to test cloaking and you ask for stop of targeting, that needs to be respected
Mafia Matt > dude
Phyrron > nice
Mafia Matt > let our guys out of that goddamn system
Phyrron > its ok
DJ Phaim > scanning seems to be working well
Phyrron > pls go
Bhazhakhain > ok so neo stop targeting our ships we all need to test our cloaks
Keiko Agenda > okay,: Neonemesis – PLEASE STOP scanning our ships – if he keeps on he will be removed – right ?
Darklord QuiGonJinn > dude Neonemesis please dont lock me longer and dont scan me!
Mafia Matt > Neonemesis please stop scanning us please
Darklord QuiGonJinn > I have to test trolling
anidaG > Neonemesis please stop scanning us
Colonel Kurtz > DJ Phaim Please stop scanning us
Miranoff > Neonemesis please stop scanning us
Basic Trust > Neonemesis please stop locking me
Mafia Matt > DJ Phaim please stop scanning us
DJ Phaim > i am scanning down drones
Miranoff > DJ Phaim you too please stop scanning us…
Halau Tikmal > Neonemesis please stop scanning us please

Colonel Kurtz > DJ Phaim please stop scanning our ships
Miranoff > Koshakk please dont scan my ship
Kayhan Sid > i hope not all ccp employes so usefull like u
AriesBar > Neonemesis please stop scanning us
anidaG > Neonemesis please stop scanning our ships
Mafia Matt > DJ Phaim please stop scanning our ships
anidaG > Neonemesis please do not lock our ships
Basic Trust > DJ Phaim please stop scanning me
Darklord QuiGonJinn > DJ Phaim please stop scanning our ships
DJ Phaim > i am not scanning your ships
Basic Trust > Koshakk please stop locking me
DJ Phaim > I am not scanning anyone. you liars
Darklord QuiGonJinn > Koshakk please dont lock me and dont scan me
Mafia Matt > Koshakk please don’t stop locking us
Bhazhakhain > neo i zold u to STOP targeting me… i want to test my cloak! ISD do ur job pls
Neonemesis > your not locked m8
Mafia Matt > mr isd person, he keeps locking us up after being asked not to, surely its his time to be moved?
Bhazhakhain > u locked me m8 so stfu
ISD X > …and you all have cloaks?
Neonemesis > you should move out of the sig radius of station
Darklord QuiGonJinn > yes
Neonemesis > that prevents your cloak πŸ˜‰
Bhazhakhain > xes i have!
Bhazhakhain > yes
AriesBar > do u have a problem with fitting cloak on sisi?
Amaar Chulla > is this important? maybe we are looking for a bug while cloaking without a cloak.
RedShadow > is it against the rules to test cloaking?
1koozya > can i bump station?
ISD X > only repeated bumping when being told to stop is
Kayhan Sid > ISD can i have your job?
Mafia Matt > so repeatedly locking isn’t?
ISD X > Kayhan Sid anyone can apply to ISD
Marmite Starfish > ISD X
shgn > we see
Kayhan Sid > oh cool
1koozya > so station will tell me to stop bumpoing her?
Marmite Starfish > sup u exploiting fag
RedShadow > hey mr isd, i just met you, and this is crazy, but i dont like you so leave us now, maybe?
Miranoff > ohhhh zing!
Mafia Matt > repeatedly locking after asking not to is not aggressing mr test isd?
Miranoff > u got serveed!!! nshit
Marmite Starfish > ISD X u been petitioned fyi
Marmite Starfish > fucking fag

Marmite Starfish > i do your mum 2 times per day
Marmite Starfish > fucking cripple
Miranoff > eww
DJ Phaim > I am testing how high the MAD index can get. So far it so good
ISD X > locking by itself is no problem, but if it interferes with your testing and it doesnt stop then it is
Gorgoth Amadeus > I am testing not wearing pants
anidaG > it does interfear
1koozya > u do know that u dont need to lock to bump right?
anidaG > glitches my overview
Mafia Matt > bumping doesn’t interfere with his testing
RedShadow > very funny time here
Mafia Matt > so i will carry on
1koozya > can i bump asteroids ?
Vampiress > x
Phyrron > is this a method to stop our testing by CCP ?
RedShadow > is it because we reveal a famous bug afew years ago? late revenge thing or so?
RedShadow > or is it why you didnt found the cheetahbug yet?
1koozya > is it acceptable for me to jump from my ship and bump it with my pod?
Darklord QuiGonJinn > Gorgoth Amadeus and how is your testing status?
Neonemesis > srsly guys you need to relax, hes doing his job and hes doing it voluntarily
Shadow Raziel > why dont you bring mindflow back here and move these guys Neonemesis into that system without gates
DJ Phaim > ev0ke tested a reaction bug for 2 years. Made a lot of ISK
Shadow Raziel > so that he cannot be harmed and test in peace
RedShadow > u jelly dj phaim?
Neonemesis > hi DJ :)
Neonemesis > its ok you can lock me i am fine with that
ISD X > Halau Tikmal Marmite Starfish pls note i will not be insulted, please rethink your language on the way back
Phyrron > spend DJ Phaim a Ferrogel item
Mafia Matt > stop sitting and taking the piss then
Marmite Starfish > fuck you
Marmite Starfish > fucking nigger
1koozya > can u move all of us in the same system then?
BigBeat > ^^
shgn > if we say FUCK YOU MORON
Mafia Matt > hey evoke, lets all get moved
shgn > ?
Mafia Matt > fuck you
ISD X > i am only allowed to move people on rule violations
BigBeat > ok
Keiko Agenda > currupt ATX-Trains much ?
1koozya > how bout u go violate urself?
Darklord QuiGonJinn > can you move us all to taht system?
mindblow > hey ISD, you have more shit for us, spy?
Phyrron > is there a chance that we come all into the same system ?
Gorgoth Amadeus > /emote grabs popcorn
Mafia Matt > test isd best isd
Mafia Matt > way to exploit your power my isd
ISD X > i will move people on rule violations to m-vacr
mindblow > you are doing rule wiolations
mindblow > SPY
1koozya > so move all of us then ty very much
Phyrron > is this an offer ?
Mafia Matt > thanks for fucking up our testing fucktard
BigBeat > mhahah
Mafia Matt > go fuck yourself
AriesBar > piece of shit
Neonemesis > chrisF needs to learn to control his temper rly
Darklord QuiGonJinn > and you not to stork
BigBeat > hmm we should talk with ccp about private clusters
Neonemesis > it is rly hard for me to learn sometimes, but rules are easy

Neonemesis > spying on SiSi is considered part of the AT go read forums
Neonemesis > you can be happy CCP lets you train here
Phyrron > nice job ISD, testing is over, good job man
DJ Phaim > :(
DJ Phaim > I need more information
RedShadow > you can pay for
BigBeat > you learned many about ISD
Amaar Chulla > dont sell cheetah bug man!
Kayhan Sid > [20:40:02] Neonemesis > spying on SiSi is considered part of the AT go read forums
Phyrron > it seems u need your boyfriend
Kayhan Sid > but shoting isnt allowed…thats crap
Miranoff > adios dbags
1koozya > `ops i pushed the wrong button
Miranoff > not you brovoke.. you dudes r chill πŸ˜‰
RedShadow > cheers bros
Miranoff > β™₯ for u
Darklord QuiGonJinn > \0
Espaxx Thang > 0/
Kayhan Sid > bye
RedShadow > mrs isd: ridiculous
ISD X > i do not see the problem, you can move to anywhere you like, even in 6cz safe spot, there you can shoot any intruder
Keiko Agenda > hey ISD – i hope you get fucked by a man or a woman (whatever you prefer) so hard, that you’ll die on a heartattack… this is not to insult you, just want to get rid off you , the best way some1 can die =) thx so far

DJ Phaim > Keiko Agenda you mad?
mindblow > more TEST spies
mindblow > hahahaha
mindblow > dicks
ISD X > 1koozya did you really kill neonemesis right now??
1koozya > no way dude
mindblow > I think he did
mindblow > yes
Bhazhakhain > u have a mail. read it and u see the problem.
mindblow > why?you gonna butt fuck him IRL?
1koozya > i think it was like 3 minutes ago
1koozya > not right now
1koozya > i think i poded him 2 minutes ago
DJ Phaim > Kill: DJ Phaim (Imicus)
1koozya > let me check
DJ Phaim > Kill: DJ Phaim (Capsule)
1koozya > Kill: DJ Phaim (Capsule)
1koozya > Kill: Neonemesis (Capsule)
1koozya > yea 3 min ago
Bhazhakhain > nice 1
ISD X > actually i have more chats and other stuff to do than handling your rule violations…
mindblow > hahaha
1koozya > :9
mindblow > FUCK YOU
mindblow > SPY
anidaG > do i get moved if i seldistruct my capsule? i get poded and it is an agression (to myself)
mindblow > same
Darklord QuiGonJinn > bisy day for ha^^
ISD X > indeed :(
1koozya > ops i did it again
1koozya > so sry
DJ Phaim > Kill: DJ Phaim (Capsule)
1koozya > fake mail
1koozya > stop faking mails noob
ISD X > mindblow i will not be insulted , last warning or i will request a ban
Darklord QuiGonJinn > man ISD go home you had your fun
Darklord QuiGonJinn > you fucked up our training
Darklord QuiGonJinn > i hope you will get nice dreams about it
anidaG > mindblow is not in local πŸ˜‰
ISD X > …anymore…
anidaG > he’s there for ages now)
anidaG > too busy trying to find out more reasons to ruin our game, that you didn’t notice that he’s not in local?)
Darklord QuiGonJinn > you are a women?
Bhazhakhain > hey ISD i have to answer my mail… im waiting for a statement
Amaar Chulla > Well Mr. ISD X, that your for this nice evening showing real competence. I am really impressd. Can i recommend you anywhere that you get promoted (maybe to an non-inclient-administration) and dont have to visit our locals anymore?

Keiko Agenda > mr lovely isd, would you mind please kill that bubble on 0mv gate ?
Amaar Chulla > that your = thank you
Kayhan Sid > yeah u fucked up our training….have fun…..this chatlog is really good…..especially your statements
Darklord QuiGonJinn > copy paste ->>><< send to CCP
Keiko Agenda > and btw: i would love to die the way i mentioned ….
DJ Phaim > Kill: DJ Phaim (Capsule)
Kayhan Sid > mimimi
Darklord QuiGonJinn > bomb test
Darklord QuiGonJinn > didnt work
Darklord QuiGonJinn > mh
ISD X > Keiko Agenda bubble taken down
Keiko Agenda > wow, that took long, but thank you anyway …
Bhazhakhain > this is agression so pls move u away now
Bhazhakhain > it was our bubble
anidaG > it was my bubble. I was testing range and mechanics of the bubbles.
anidaG > gj checking alliance ticker on the bubble btw

Neonemesis > trying to be smart by breaking sisi rules… epic
Amaar Chulla > ISD, would you mind answering me?
DJ Phaim > hurf durf argue with your own ISD guy
DJ Phaim > /emote claps
Neonemesis > No interfering with CCP, volunteer or player testing, by that your bubble test is interfering with someoneelses training
ISD X > sorry?
Neonemesis > use your brain god damn
Neonemesis > anidaG you mad ?
anidaG > testing bubble mechanics
anidaG > how movment of the ships inside affects the ships
anidaG > and my tracking
Neonemesis > next time you should tell me that your shooting, i ll obv help you testing that
Neonemesis > if you desire so
Neonemesis > your tracking seems to be fine
ISD X > anidaG?
Neonemesis > its ok he just wants to play you, hes prty mad
ISD X > how is that important? was that killing by consent or not?
Neonemesis > in that case i allowed it yes
Neonemesis > [21:03:38] Neonemesis > next time you should tell me that your shooting, i ll obv help you testing that
DJ Phaim > none of my kills I have not given consent
ISD X > k nvm then
DJ Phaim > Kill: DJ Phaim (Capsule)
Neonemesis > anidaG stop shooting now plz πŸ˜‰
Amaar Chulla > Quote: “Well Mr. ISD X, thank you for this nice evening showing real competence. I am really impressd. Can i recommend you anywhere that you get promoted (maybe to an non-inclient-administration) and dont have to visit our local?”
DJ Phaim > please don’t shoot me anidaG
Amaar Chulla > stop spamming phaim and neonemesis. because of your spam, isd doesnt see my questions. that kills his career maybe….
DJ Phaim > I am sure his career is in danger
DJ Phaim > Because of you guys
Neonemesis > i am prty sure your guys SiSi acess is in danger
Neonemesis > if at all something is endangered
Neonemesis > you always been so nice to me ev0ke people, why all the hate today?
Neonemesis > :(
Voltan Browning > we dont like stalker πŸ˜‰
Neonemesis > you should see it as compliment
Neonemesis > i am just a fanboi of you guys :)
DJ Phaim > me too
DJ Phaim > one day I will grow up to be an ev0ke
Neonemesis > we gotta start in ewoks tho
DJ Phaim > good show gentlemen
DJ Phaim > it was entertaining

Send us Intel/Corrections


  1. ilikeponies

    ISD's are nobodies that are recruited by CCP to do the grunt work on sisi (such as enforcing the rules). they can be as stupid as the GM's you encounter when filing petitions. don't hate on them for not finishing high school.

    July 14, 2012 at 4:42 pm Reply
    1. CBJL

      ISD are actually eve players that volunteer for the job. CCP doesn't discriminate who does the job based on their alliance, so for all we know this ISD X guy could have been part of a rival alliance in the tournament. He just used a 'rule' against them. Besides, no podding in SISI? Noones been to the FFA's recently have they? Been podded there myself too many times to count.

      July 14, 2012 at 5:17 pm Reply
      1. Truthseeker

        ISD X didn't _use a 'rule'_ against them, they clearly _violated a rule_ and their fucked up behaviour is just dishonorable. X did what he's there for.

        These big alliances are used to, and all about spying, shady politics, backhanded metagaming, playing the system and just can't adjust to the different nature of SiSi that is completely justified.

        So yeah, spying is shit and all but man, you're used to that. Don't whine like this.
        Also, NCdot just lost against TEST after a horrible display that was definately not due to this little spying action.

        July 14, 2012 at 5:48 pm Reply
        1. Karbox Delacroix

          That rule exists so people can test non combat features without the hassle of being popped. Thing is, it it is transparently clear that this was a case of spying and not testing. The rule was used needlessly to cause harm, not to preserve the integrity of the test server.

          July 14, 2012 at 6:06 pm Reply
          1. seany1212

            Except the "integrity" of the test server isnt for seeing if you can get the greatest Alliance Tournament team together. Regardless of whether they were spying there is no rule that says you cant watch another person or group of people on singularity. The rules were being upheld in that killing was occuring outside designated areas and such an obcene amount of language (which was still very humourous)

            July 14, 2012 at 7:53 pm
          2. Sreggin Wej

            And you guys were totally testing non combat features, right? Not practicing for an alliance tournament in a risk-free environement?

            July 14, 2012 at 8:09 pm
          3. Northerner

            So? Doesn't change the rule of not killing ppl without consent.

            July 15, 2012 at 5:32 am
        2. Bagehi

          Yeah, NCdot's comp wasn't exactly a "surprise" to Test's ATX team.

          July 14, 2012 at 6:38 pm Reply
          1. Nina

            lol..they got stomped.

            July 15, 2012 at 6:53 am
        3. CBJL

          So, when I get podded in the FFA's, I should bitch to the ISD staff, have the person who podded me booted from SISI? Been there, tried that, ISD don't give a shit. I find it very coincidental that the moment the guy got podded by NCdot, that ISD came rushing in. Never do that for me! Do the math fellas.

          July 14, 2012 at 8:57 pm Reply
          1. anonymous

            Obvious test alt is obvious

            July 14, 2012 at 9:16 pm
          2. ...

            they changed the rules on sisi last year. in the pvp system the only place you're not allowed to pvp is on the station or gates, non-consensual pvp is ok anywhere else in the system including podding. Everywhere else in sisi you need consent to pvp. Read the rules, it's not that difficult.

            July 15, 2012 at 4:36 am
          3. Northerner

            Take off the tinfoil hat, dude. They violated a rule and then bitched about the consequences in a very, very disgraceful way.

            July 15, 2012 at 5:31 am
    2. PLElite

      That may be true and some ISDs trully are there because of metagaming. However generalizing is bad, and many ISD are good guys trying to make Sisi better place.

      As for this NCDOT. assholes, for this they would get kick from my corp in 1 second. What a bunch of morons who doesn't know shit about sisi or when to STFU. "AT Team" yeah.

      July 15, 2012 at 5:58 pm Reply
  2. Marcus_McTavish

    Some alliances test in wormholes, but its more difficult. Also someone could be watching you and you would have no idea.

    July 14, 2012 at 5:17 pm Reply
    1. Karbox Delacroix

      According to Spergs and SoundWaffle, there are no good reason to test in a WH. Obvious collusion, not butt hurt at all.

      July 14, 2012 at 5:24 pm Reply
      1. Northerner

        I think minimizing the chance to be spied at is a damn good reason!

        Also, I didn't like what I read here at all. Fucking disgraceful and ISD X may be a fucking Test alt but…come on guys, what the hell?

        Also, that NC.-TEST match was horrible anyways.

        July 14, 2012 at 5:57 pm Reply
  3. SisiTearsFTW

    1. Every single one of those dudes sperged like a Goon/TEST/CFC Pet (PL) pilot. Many lulz for that.

    2. I don't think carebear tears are the best tears anymore – these guys' are.

    July 14, 2012 at 5:38 pm Reply
    1. M1k3y

      Test tears best tears.
      Self-entitled tears best tears.

      I kinda like the first one though.

      July 14, 2012 at 10:46 pm Reply
    2. PLElite

      I guess this makes them official Goons now.

      July 15, 2012 at 6:00 pm Reply
  4. seany1212

    I liked the part where they thought SiSi was onlined specifically so they could train…

    Where do these people come from..?

    July 14, 2012 at 6:08 pm Reply
  5. demtitans

    Hahaha, wow. NC. Showing they are even more fail than we ever knew was possible. What a bunch of retards.

    July 14, 2012 at 6:09 pm Reply
  6. hmm

    they behaved like total assholes, good to see them kicked, especially people like mindblown at the very start or keiko agenda…

    July 14, 2012 at 6:29 pm Reply
  7. unsatisfied reader

    Um just get your own out of corp ISD member to spai for you next time. Ok.

    July 14, 2012 at 9:37 pm Reply
  8. Allah Akbar

    Yea not going to be suprise when can see what comps are being tested,pro logic darlin…. TEST Alliance worse alliance,shambles that NC. lost even when they new what comp NC. would be flying!

    July 14, 2012 at 9:45 pm Reply
  9. Sisi warrior

    1b the ISD was Lesandrina

    July 14, 2012 at 10:11 pm Reply
  10. dani lizardov

    Meta gaming is OK.
    Exploiting the rules is not.
    EvE is very interesting place, these days its seems there more people in it trying to META game, then actually play that game.

    SiSi rules and how they were applied it's a farce.
    No wonder that this game is so terrible at bugs! No one actually does testing on the test server. They all meta gaming.

    July 14, 2012 at 10:46 pm Reply
    1. Hench

      Confirmed serpentis renter who posts unabashedly on every TEST-related article with butthurt.

      July 15, 2012 at 4:42 pm Reply
      1. dani lizardov

        in npc space?
        i see… another brigth mind :)
        come colect your rent master

        July 15, 2012 at 11:50 pm Reply
  11. Backdoor Man

    PL knows exactly what any of you retards are flying for the tourney. I can't say how, but its funny on how you guys bitch and complain about the obvious. There is nothing you can do about it, but keep crying and giving us those tears. We win Eve, the rest of you are just our fodder. Deal with it or unsub, either way don't be a douche.

    July 15, 2012 at 12:46 am Reply
    1. Cunteeeee

      Python injecting to get the dumbass code to say "no you can't put his ship in your ship, cos its x ship with blah" No fucking mystery cunt, we just choose to ignore the nerds cheating at life…

      CCP Screegs however… He dreams of ways to cut your fingers off… When he reads hit like this, I'm sure he wan't to boundary violate the whole of PL.

      Shame you can't code up a female to have sex with eh?

      Eat shit cunt. Your secret squirrel story is out. Go find another great mytsery of teh universe to tease us all with.. Useless cunt faggot and shit poster..

      Get your meta-nerd squad of doom to track me down cunt. I double fucking dare you with shit on it.

      July 15, 2012 at 11:49 pm Reply
      1. Bagehi

        Can't do that exploit anymore (supposedly). Sreegs made a post about it.

        July 16, 2012 at 12:43 am Reply
      2. Welp


        July 16, 2012 at 6:45 am Reply
    2. Y R

      Then why you no win the tournament?

      July 27, 2012 at 1:55 pm Reply
  12. Grunty

    These guys should be banned for their bad attitude. I don't see why that ISD person should have to read all that crap and insults by those 14 year old retards.

    July 15, 2012 at 12:57 am Reply
  13. Devore

    Children. These people are behaving like children.

    The test server is for testing whatever the current patch of the game is up on it, not for schoolyard antics (ie metagaming) or practicing in a risk-free environment. Consequently, rules reflect that it is not your own private server.

    July 15, 2012 at 1:07 am Reply
  14. matoi


    July 15, 2012 at 1:32 am Reply
    1. derp2

      Why? Metagaming has been a huge part of the AT since it's inception.

      July 15, 2012 at 9:31 am Reply
  15. Bap

    mfw they complained that hard and brought in that terrible hurricane/loki setup.

    July 15, 2012 at 2:48 am Reply
  16. Random Miner

    that ISD let that go a little too long… why continue to respond to childish banter if you didn't enjoy it?

    July 15, 2012 at 4:12 am Reply
  17. CFC grunt

    Not a fan of and their behaviour and we exploited it just fine but objectively seen this rule is retarded in that context. I would have been pissed off as well.

    July 15, 2012 at 8:53 am Reply
    1. Dice

      But why? The purpose of SISI is testing, not Alliance Tournament preparation. The rules of SISI apply on SISI and should be upheld by GMs, surely? I have no problem with people using SISI for their own gain (training, ship familiarisation, even AT training) but I do have a problem with people using SISI and then complaining about the rules when they do so.

      July 15, 2012 at 12:32 pm Reply
  18. isd IS CORRUPT

    I've seen ISD blatantly edit posts which have or no other reason been for thier agendas ( ISD Stenson ) I have no doubts that ISD is especially being bent now during CCP's summer vactation months because CCP is asleep behind the wheel. Last time I checked there was a sticky on the top of GD about ISD's abuses but nothing has been addressed.
    CCP is getting what they paid for with ISD: JACK SHIT

    July 15, 2012 at 8:59 am Reply
  19. droljica

    "mindblow > who makes rules on sisi?"

    hahhahahhahaha, whata retard….

    July 15, 2012 at 2:29 pm Reply
  20. Texthunter

    Interesting – google reveals the full conversation

    July 15, 2012 at 8:45 pm Reply
  21. Bitchaz stole me fit

    If you want no spais, get a wh…

    July 16, 2012 at 8:52 am Reply
  22. lorkin desal

    The same person spied on our first practice (lsp). We got bored of the isd not doing anything, so went back to 6c and titan bridged to our other testing systems. This worked very well (we were done testing) before anyone could arrive to spy on us) until a person kept appearing next to us mid test.

    July 16, 2012 at 12:31 pm Reply
  23. Nemesis

    BooHoo. Someone spied on my on the TEST server. Welcome to 3 years ago. Go into a Wormhole if your that upset about it. Really, go practice in a Wormhole somewhere not linked to a main static. That way you don't have to ever worry about it. But wait, you don't like that idea because it's a hassle!? Too fucking bad. Live with it. It's EVE, not WoW.

    July 16, 2012 at 1:59 pm Reply
  24. NC. Scrub

    ISD are like Mall security. They don't have much real power, but the power they do have can still be misused, and I think clearly that was the case here. I find it hilarious that the same people from CFC who constantly sperg in local for literally no reason, are now pointing fingers. Something about glass houses and stones here m8z?

    Yes the ISD was no doubt a TEST/PL alt. Yes they used the ISD to selectively inforce certain usually uninforced rules of SiSi to disrupt and spy on others ATX practices. It's not new or suprising.

    What IS suprising is how willing they are to publicly gloat about doing it, and CCP's lack of will to do anything about reigning in their corrupt ISD's even when such blatant misuse is sperged all over TestNews24.

    Metagaming has its place and is easy enough to do without abusing the ISD system, at that point a line is sorta crossed and becomes cheating. Not that that would deter people who have used shit like python injection and monkeysphere. Just my opinion on it.

    July 16, 2012 at 3:19 pm Reply
  25. wouldn't it be nice

    it would be nice if the alliance teams had a safe and private place to practice. Would reduce meta gaming in tournaments.

    sisi is not that place though. its supposed to test for stability and bugs in new patches of the game.

    July 16, 2012 at 8:04 pm Reply
  26. PHNXofEVE

    It's called finding a wormhole, stop your moaning if you are too lazy to scan one out and practice inside.

    July 17, 2012 at 12:26 am Reply

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