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Corelin’s Mad Haberdashers: I’m not a SiSi. I Just Play There

Using SiSi is a good tool to take concepts and test them without breaking your wallet, shitting up your killboard and making an utter ass of yourself. So today I grabbed some guys and headed to a nice little area to blow up some hulks, macks, and take a crack and an orca or two.

We tested fits, to see how close to the bone we could cut it. We tested some mechanics, for example trying to board a ship (in an Orca or in Space) while GCC got us this notice:

23:12:05 Notify You have been involved in illegal activity whilst piloting this ship. CONCORD prohibits you from destroying evidence by changing ships at this time.

Which I thought was interesting since I managed to apparently commit a crime in a pod.

We tested combinations of ships, how they reacted against the various targets out there, and came to some conclusions which I’ve found rather interesting. I’m going to post some of them to help gankers do their planning.

The biggest challenge I see is keeping activity going. With 15 minute timers after every attempted gank, and no way around them gankers will have to operate their fleets rather efficiently to maximize kills in a time period. Using the minimum number of ships to ENSURE a kill, cleaning the battlefield (if they want) and setting up the support team while a secondary or tertiary squad prepares for their attack.

In addition the spawning of Faction Police (much weaker than CONCORD) means attacks must be launched FAST. You have to move out from wherever you are basing as soon as you get in the ships, and start shooting nearly as soon as you land. Losing from 0.3 to 0.5 Sec Status per kill means that kills can deplete Sec in a hurry. A toon with a full 5.0 standing can afford to kill at most 24 ships before he starts losing access to systems. With my corp targeting 0.7 and below a person with a 5.0 can hit 28.333 ships before having to worry about faction police. Corelin has a -1.2 right now so he can kill at most 8 targets before we run into problems. Clearly pre-seccing up will be a BIG part of this last week of pre-hulkageddon prep. In addition as the event stretches on people might zip out to good ratting spots and pull their sec status up a bit.

Oh and a LOT of destroyers and hulks and macks were hurt in the preparation of this blog.

– Corelin

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52 Comments

  1. Solar ally

    Cool story bro

    April 23, 2012 at 5:34 am Reply
    1. Jita Will Burn

      Will be an even cooler story. Look forward to the event.

      April 23, 2012 at 4:57 pm Reply
  2. Random Miner

    i feel sad for gankers. they all cleary have out of game issues….

    April 23, 2012 at 5:50 am Reply
    1. Karbox Delacroix

      If that's true then why am I eating Cheetos and masturbating at the same God-damn time?

      April 23, 2012 at 7:01 am Reply
      1. Random Miner

        because it's a sunday night..?

        April 23, 2012 at 8:04 am Reply
        1. Ras

          Because the priest forgot to touch you?

          April 23, 2012 at 9:29 am Reply
          1. Random Miner

            i know, he always favored you….

            April 23, 2012 at 10:17 am
      2. Troll

        Because you're looking at pictures on milk cartons?

        April 23, 2012 at 10:38 am Reply
    2. Random Miner

      don't get me wrong, i think it's great that the emotional anger from never being hugged as a child is being vented against helpless internet spaceships, instead of killing hookers. It's a real breakthough for you guys. keep up the good work sport *gives you a big thumbs up*

      April 23, 2012 at 8:08 am Reply
    3. Random CFC Grunt

      Agreed, after all there's nothing wrong with the miners, staring all day at 2-3 laser beams hitting an asteroid and claiming it's fun… Yup, fun as hell, where did I put my hulk…LOL

      April 23, 2012 at 10:42 am Reply
  3. yoyo

    Gank fit BC and below can undock from station and warp before police arrive in a 0.5 system.

    April 23, 2012 at 6:01 am Reply
  4. for the lols

    i feel bad for miners. Not partaking in any of the exciting parts of eve.

    April 23, 2012 at 6:32 am Reply
    1. I just don't know

      I feel bad for people who make assumptions like that, as there are a lot of people who mine and who also do the exciting parts of Eve.

      April 23, 2012 at 6:48 am Reply
      1. Urziel99

        Agreed. There are plenty of miners who will gleefully violence you in the face. However a Hulk is not a vehicle of violence. But you know that, that's why you target them. Easy kills to pad your KB.

        April 23, 2012 at 9:39 am Reply
    2. Onehung Lo

      And really, some people find blasting roids while smoking a j, throwing back Jack, listening to music and watching the toob to be exciting. You guys that can't relax in EVEN this mode really do take it to hard! To much ADHD in Eve is the problem.

      April 23, 2012 at 10:53 am Reply
  5. skullair

    would be nice to see the test results… other then the obvious a 5.0 person can gank more then a -1.8….

    April 23, 2012 at 7:20 am Reply
    1. Random CFC Grunt

      A catalyst with 8 t2 light neutron blasters, a scram (T1), and 2 magstabs (T1) can do close to 500dps overheated at around 2km range. A standard hisec hulk was left deep in structure after concord fisished the fight. It's safe to assume, that 2 of those will RAPE any mining barge in hisec. Tested on sisi.

      April 23, 2012 at 10:58 am Reply
      1. The Observer

        May want to make sure it dies and use 3 gankalysts instead. Hulk during hulkageddon not only fit tank, but a fairly good buffer. Not to mention I've seen a fleet of hulks out there with a scimi. Let's just say that the thorax that tried to gank them failed miserably.

        April 23, 2012 at 2:53 pm Reply
        1. Urziel99

          Siege Warfare Link – Shield Harmonizing II
          Armored Warfare Link- Passive Defense II

          Throw one of those on your Orca giving bonuses or even better have a Nighthawk or Damnation throwing both. It'll be that much harder.

          April 23, 2012 at 8:23 pm Reply
  6. Rainbow Dash

    My god another article on EN24 bereft of meaningful content, who'd have seen that coming ?

    April 23, 2012 at 8:03 am Reply
    1. Heh

      No one forces you to read them all Rainbow Crash

      April 23, 2012 at 3:41 pm Reply
      1. David_Star

        The complusion that drove him to get ALL the Pokemon drives him to read ALL the EN24 posts.

        April 23, 2012 at 7:26 pm Reply
  7. SandyCakes

    miners suck imo. all they do is parade around and take space.

    April 23, 2012 at 9:47 am Reply
    1. Random Miner

      ahhh…. where the fuck do you think your ship comes from dipshit? you gotta be a goon with, logic like that

      April 23, 2012 at 10:19 am Reply
      1. OMFG!!! delicious!!!

        April 23, 2012 at 10:23 am Reply
      2. Random CFC Grunt

        It comes from the dronelands and the compounds harvested therein.

        April 23, 2012 at 10:27 am Reply
        1. Random Miner

          um, you don't read alot of news do you grunt?

          April 23, 2012 at 10:36 am Reply
          1. Random CFC Grunt

            You do realize that the compounds are still in game, right? Just checking…

            April 23, 2012 at 10:49 am
          2. Random Miner

            yeah, for a whole … one more day lol

            April 23, 2012 at 10:51 am
          3. Random CFC Grunt

            Indeed, but if I remember correctly you asked "where the fuck do you think your ship comes from"… don't like the answer sweetie? :*

            April 23, 2012 at 10:55 am
          4. Random Miner

            … my goon logic statement stands…

            April 23, 2012 at 11:02 am
          5. Random CFC Grunt

            OH NoeS!! WHat ever shall I do?! TROLOLOL, maybe I'll go rape some hisec-mining hulks with me destroya! GOOON RAAAAGE!!

            April 23, 2012 at 11:05 am
          6. Random Miner

            wow, you showed me

            April 23, 2012 at 11:11 am
          7. Whatever

            haha i know who's gonna be crying next week when the prices will explode ^^

            April 23, 2012 at 12:20 pm
          8. Random CFC Grunt

            I won't, but those poor post-28th and post-hulkageddon butthurt sweethearts will rage their dicks off.

            April 23, 2012 at 2:42 pm
          9. David_Star

            OMG – Drakes cost too much! To the GOONcar (a.k.a. da Rifter)

            April 23, 2012 at 7:28 pm
          10. The Observer

            HA, this. QQ more when a catalyst costs more than 2 mil for the hull alone. May as well use a BC for that price. oh wait, the prices of those are going up too.

            April 23, 2012 at 2:56 pm
      3. No one important

        Obvious troll is obvious.

        April 23, 2012 at 10:37 am Reply
  8. dani lizardov

    May I ask?
    Who is this "Corelin" dude, and why is he so important, that we have to read about his adventures on the TEST server ?

    And Yes my opinion on ganking the miners :
    – It is fun once or twice, or done with a purpose.
    – It`s Retarded when you do it "for the Tiers" 😀 – lamest excuse of a bully/ lesser person, ever existed 😀

    Pro TIP: Gang the fraiters full of bilions instead… you might get reach in the process…

    April 23, 2012 at 11:27 am Reply
    1. Welp

      You, sir, are a grammatical genius.

      April 23, 2012 at 12:20 pm Reply
  9. droljica

    Must be smth'n important when goontard decides to write a blog…

    April 23, 2012 at 11:50 am Reply
  10. Witchking Angmar

    Are you still able to change ships in lowsec with GCC? Namely when the pilot whose 2B pve Tengu you're killing decides to eject.

    April 23, 2012 at 12:26 pm Reply
  11. abc123

    CCP likes drama – likes Conflicks – like ships to go boom – Make losers who do not have a base grounding in real life emo about space pixils. As I myself think ganking miners is for small dick losers who have a problem with how they look at oneself it is till a fact that it can and will happen. So when one look at what you can do to prevent it. Simple cure is go to Zero Zero. Punks in hi-sec will not go to Low sec for they will have to fight with other like themselfs. They dont go to Zero Zero for they will just get there ass kick, ego busted, and shown by people who really know how to fight. Goons – NCDot – CVA – ROL – AAA – and other Zero Zero Alliances may fight each other but ganking only happens when you dont take proper actions to secure your are. But most pilots from my dealing will tell you that ganking in High Sec is just plane the lowest way to play the game. Guess that why most asses stay in empire for they can not get along with others.

    April 23, 2012 at 1:45 pm Reply
    1. The Observer

      You'd be surprised on how many of those 0.0 alliance dooders have pirate alts that are -10. Me, for example. I fight in sov 0.0 and am fairy good at it (I'm no expert, but I can hold my own). I also have a flashy gank alt in high sec just for those rare occasions where I feel the need to create tears, which are hard to come by in 0.0. Also, ganking for profit paid for my Aeon.

      April 23, 2012 at 2:50 pm Reply
  12. Peggy from prime

    Author's little corp…..so very desperate for relevance. http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=703
    Since the CEO of this corp has indicated he will be ganking, I hope miners are smart enough to set the corp above -10 in standings and leave when they come in to system. Blueball best ..best ball.
    Riv – stick with stealing from Kugutsmen – enabling these nobody shitpoasters diminishes the quality of an already sketchy website.

    April 23, 2012 at 1:59 pm Reply
  13. corelin

    Honestly I'm as surprised as you all that this got picked for the site. I was typing this in chunks while waiting out GCC on SiSi.

    April 23, 2012 at 2:27 pm Reply
    1. The Observer

      Try this next time. Use an orca or a pilot that can use the fittings on your suigank ship of choise to eject pre-fitted ships off grid from the intended target. warp pod in and wait for everyone else/GCC to end. All get in your fitted catalysts at once. warp to person in fleet that's next to intended target, gank, CONCORDOKKEN. You can still gank with a -10 sec status, which I do often. However, you may need to step up your game by using an ECCM so the navy doesn't jam you out immediately. Remember folks, just because you're red and flashy doesn't mean that you have to stop ganking.

      April 23, 2012 at 2:47 pm Reply
  14. Buggrit

    Fail article. Fits, dps, effects, shiet. Where is it?

    April 23, 2012 at 7:30 pm Reply
  15. Anonymous

    1. 0.0 Pilots – The adventureres of EvE
    2. Lowsec Pilots – The scourge of EvE
    3. WH Pilots – The strategists of EvE
    4. Hisec Gankers – Those who fail at 1-3
    5. Hisec Goonkers – Those who can't decide what to do on their own

    April 23, 2012 at 9:32 pm Reply
    1. DarthNefarius

      6. Incursion runners – The Bufalo Hunters of Eve 😀

      April 23, 2012 at 10:38 pm Reply
    2. CareBearStares

      4. Hisec Gankers – Those who fail at 1-3, and thinks hunting cows with highpowered rifles and scopes is 'sport'.

      fixed :)

      April 23, 2012 at 10:48 pm Reply
    3. Random Miner

      whenever I think of a ganker, i see south park's Uncle Jimbo looking at a rabbit and then shouting "MY GOD, IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!" and then blowing it up with a bazooka

      April 24, 2012 at 6:06 am Reply

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