Editor’s note: One of the most notorious pilots of New Eden, organizer of the upcoming Hulkaggedon competition, Helicity Boson has been on the blogging scene uncovering the “secret sauce” of Eve Online’s PVP.

After the massive amount of QQ our last (somewhat devious) supercarrier kill generated, Shadow Cartel and friends have been actively on the lookout for more foolish Supercarrier pilots to Blap. Last night, our plan to surprise buttsex a supercarrier we’ve been monitoring ended up being a fat load of nothing, so we reshipped into a BS gang with some capital support and were getting ready to go out and look for trouble…

…When someone indicated there was a semi-large Raiden. gang baiting in lowsec.

Now, everybody knows there is no such thing as a Raiden BS gang so we said “Fuck it, let’s see if we can bait out a super and kill it”. We burned towards their location like motherfuckers while our scout kept tabs on them. We decided to fight them in Aeschee and split our gang on a gate to see if we could entice them into accidentally splitting their gang a little. Unfortunately as they moved into the system Itsme jumped his Vindi in from Lisbeatanne only to find the Raiden guys had moved to that gate instead of ours.

We weren’t about to let Raiden have a free Vindi kill, so the order came down to just jump on their faces and cyno in a triage.

It was on!

Predictably it only took seconds before there were two super carriers and hostile triage on grid. We laid into their subcaps, got HICs onto an Aeon and decided to go balls to the wall.

We dropped Dreads onto Raiden. This is not a course of action for the faint-hearted, as without fail you can expect a very large number of super capitals in short order. We cycled through primaries, killing several faction BS (and an amusing T2 fitted armor Machariel) and a Triage carrier. Then we set about destroying the offending Aeon. He died with a very satisfying kaboom (and a devious fleet member immediately snagged the loot). More supers jumped in, this would be the theme of the whole fight.

The pressure on our fleet was increasing, but we were not going to let the Nyx we had pointed live!

That’s a lotta supers…

Even more supers jumped in, we were getting overwhelmed, we took down some more sub caps and by this point Raiden had more super capitals than we had regular capitals.

We decided to sit it out and take down that Nyx. It folded under the combined weight of the Dreads and subcaps. Our HIC pilots were doing an amazing job staying alive and enabled us to kill our second super capital of the day.

We laid into a third Nyx and an Archon, but by now there were no less than 24 (no joke) supers on field. This was overwhelming our defenses quite readily, as this is the amount of supers I’d normally expect in a Sov fight, not lowsec…

The FC then made an unpopular, but correct, decision: We could kill the third Nyx, but we’d lose every single one of our capitals, if we bailed now we’d come out ahead.

Fully half of our capitals managed to bail before the incredible power of two dozen supers could end them, subcaps deagged and escaped via the gate without issue.

At the end of the day, the result was firmly in our favor isk-wise:

Just goes to show you, even lowsec “trash” can punch you in the dick if you think you’re some omnipotent space army that has no rival. Arrogance like that is the keystone of every dead nullsec Alliance. We knew from the start their ability to escalate far outstripped our own, but we went for it anyways.

Above you can see the video from the perspective of one of our dreads. Thanks to Raiden. for bringing it!


P.S. To all the haters, blow us, we can kill supers that fight back.


[spoiler show=”Did we mess up?”]
We want to give you guys the best possible intel, to post as fast as we can confirm it, but Eve being :Eve: is quite confusing. If we messed up with our intel, please contact us directly [email protected], provide the proof of it and we’ll correct it immediately noting the change and bringing the correction on top of the article list.[/spoiler]

If you would like to send intel or contribute, feel free to use the form below:

[spoiler show=”Submit Intel Here”]



  1. Test bro


    April 20, 2012 at 6:11 pm Reply
    1. A Dude


      April 20, 2012 at 6:12 pm Reply
      1. Test bro


        April 20, 2012 at 6:14 pm Reply
        1. A Dude

          Shit, I was close 😛

          April 20, 2012 at 6:14 pm Reply
  2. A Dude

    Nice kills!

    We knew you could anyway, its mostly carebears and e-honor hating on that Hel kill.

    Its a sad day when you see an entire nullsec alliance retreat to lowsec and gate camp with supers on call…

    April 20, 2012 at 6:11 pm Reply
    1. Silentskills

      Your previous super kill was a douche-bag-steve move/plot. But these last two gets you a whole lot of respect. Nicely done.

      April 20, 2012 at 6:38 pm Reply
      1. Cheers. Were dastardly pirates though. Being cheap and dirty is kinda our deal, but i get where you are coming from

        April 20, 2012 at 6:47 pm Reply
        1. Aher

          Congrats for THIS fight . The other (the poor rookie HEL)….not . I hate backstabbing .Everyone does :)

          April 20, 2012 at 8:48 pm Reply
        2. Widdershins

          I give you props for both. Dirty is a word, with little significance in Eve. Good fights, good kills.

          April 20, 2012 at 11:32 pm Reply
      2. Enochia Starr


        April 20, 2012 at 7:04 pm Reply
  3. Gumpin

    someone get that aeon and rooks and kings video ASAP

    April 20, 2012 at 6:16 pm Reply
  4. mart

    I dont get the obsession with killing supers and titans , people work really hard to get them. Not cool

    April 20, 2012 at 6:20 pm Reply
    1. kdig

      get out.

      April 20, 2012 at 6:21 pm Reply
      1. Enochia Starr


        April 20, 2012 at 6:24 pm Reply
    2. ironic

      not sure if being ironic

      April 20, 2012 at 6:25 pm Reply
    3. A Dude

      Not sure if being a trolling faggot

      April 20, 2012 at 6:57 pm Reply
    4. Urziel99

      "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose." <– EVE's only true law.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:57 pm Reply
  5. just thinking

    The problem with claiming an ISK victory is that total damage inflicted is relative. Additionally, it only really is most effective if you intend to keep up the pressure long enough for ISK to really bleed out and have an impact. Not that ISK values aren't important simple one time brawl, but I get the feeling that eleven dreads and two carriers are going to be felt more by the lowsec alliance than the two supercarriers by the Null sec group.

    Their relative capacity to fight that was lost is the difference, which is not to say that two supers wont hurt raiden 😀

    April 20, 2012 at 6:29 pm Reply
    1. mee

      interesting that people think the isk loss hurts low sec pvp'ers as many of them have alts generating income in 0.0 hahaha

      April 20, 2012 at 6:40 pm Reply
      1. Unsatisfied reader

        Its obvious its the ones butthurt poitinting out the isk ratio, besides lowsecers dont have pesky sov bills and worry bout defending territorios with assets on hand. Besides losing moms is highe up on that morale loss scale.

        April 20, 2012 at 7:27 pm Reply
    2. Apathy_U

      I live in low sec i have 20 bill in my isk wallet , how about you?

      April 20, 2012 at 6:48 pm Reply
      1. Laff.

        I live in low-sec with 150b :)

        April 20, 2012 at 7:04 pm Reply
      2. just thinking

        I wasn't suggesting that lowsec players are poorer, it is my understanding that null alliances have greater capacity to replace losses at a faster rate than lowesec groups. Primarily due to moon goo and more established replacement logistics.

        In response to you having 20b and being lowsec, to be fair you can always find rich players in all areas of eve. I'm sure there are highsec carebears right now reading this going, "20b, 150b, how cute."

        April 20, 2012 at 8:13 pm Reply
        1. Shadow Cartel Member

          we have plently of isk. lowsec is a gold mine. it will most likley be easyer for us to replace our losses than the Raiden pilots, who likely are not going to get reinbursed for this loss.

          April 20, 2012 at 8:31 pm Reply
          1. bless

            lol suggesting finfleet cant replace 2 little supers….

            April 21, 2012 at 1:25 am
          2. make that 8….

            April 21, 2012 at 3:33 am
  6. lol


    April 20, 2012 at 6:36 pm Reply
  7. Null Dweller

    Somehow I wouldnt call 64% a "firmly on our side" isk victory…

    April 20, 2012 at 6:41 pm Reply
    1. 32 lost, 58 killed. Seems good to me. Especially considering the odds were so heavily against us. They suck at tackling

      April 20, 2012 at 6:50 pm Reply
      1. Sephiroth Septim

        Not bad… but.. can you replace all of them lost dreads?

        April 20, 2012 at 9:30 pm Reply
        1. Helicity Boson

          two to go now, and they'll all be done :)

          April 20, 2012 at 9:32 pm Reply
    2. Another -A- pilot

      Yeah this may be true, but they are going to get insurance for their Dreads…….

      April 20, 2012 at 6:51 pm Reply
      1. Enochia Starr

        We had more fun than they did, the tears that were taking place in raiden during the time were good enough for us.

        April 20, 2012 at 7:05 pm Reply
        1. s2n pilot

          You realize those supers are already replaced right? Raiden don't exactally have to scrounge to get replacement supers.

          April 20, 2012 at 9:42 pm Reply
          1. Enochia Starr

            Once again, we don't care. Need to have fun in this game, so what if we lost a few dreads. The pure disorganization from Raiden to us, was hillarious.

            April 20, 2012 at 11:27 pm
          2. Well they lost 6 more today (including the nyx we put into half armor), they might be a bit slower replacing 8 than 2 :)

            April 21, 2012 at 3:27 am
          3. NulliBumBumClub

            Wondering if Nulli have managed to field their Naga gang with T2 rails yet….

            HAHAHA How did I know I was gonna find those? o What a massive surprise LMFAO nubs

            April 21, 2012 at 10:17 am
  8. Corteztk

    Wow you guys are special bus special, *insert golf clap here* you actually managed to kill something you didn't blue. Do it a couple more times and we will let you take your helmet off maybe. You got a long way to go to prove your better than raiden. That is coming from someone that doesn't even like raiden. I just like you morons less.

    April 20, 2012 at 6:55 pm Reply
    1. Enochia Starr

      We've never killed blues, obviously you need to take the retard sticker off your head.

      April 20, 2012 at 7:03 pm Reply
    2. Jaw

      -a- is shit

      April 20, 2012 at 8:26 pm Reply
    3. No one important

      Sayeth the sad low-sec pirate who has never seen a supercap.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:38 pm Reply
    4. Ivan Radnovich

      Confering -A- still is shit and forever have shit in face

      April 20, 2012 at 10:55 pm Reply
    5. WH guy

      How's that wormhole campaign been working out?

      April 20, 2012 at 10:58 pm Reply
      1. Corteztk

        The so called wormhole campaign is going fine, but it's not a "campaign" -A- simply took in a corp (my corp) a while back that does wormholes on the side. We recently ran into the equivalent of a wormhole blob but we are clever fellows and can beat it.

        April 23, 2012 at 12:44 pm Reply
  9. Lerooy Jenkins

    Yehyea Busta busta go get ne some moar…Kille

    April 20, 2012 at 7:05 pm Reply
  10. X

    shadow cartel: thanks for the good fight. we did not expect you to be that fast with the dreads. bait of ours backfired, props for that. have not had so much fun in a "lost" fight in a long time!

    April 20, 2012 at 7:59 pm Reply
    1. Same to you guys, we had a great time!

      April 20, 2012 at 8:11 pm Reply
  11. Sansha Lord

    Dreads are killing supers?
    luv for that

    April 20, 2012 at 8:13 pm Reply
  12. Widdershins

    Well done, excellent efficiency. Sounds like a really well executed fight.

    April 20, 2012 at 11:36 pm Reply
  13. McW

    finfleet = fagfleet

    April 20, 2012 at 11:44 pm Reply
  14. Shadoon't

    Why in the fuck don't you have history up you piece fo shit camera man? WTF is your overview setup like that for?

    Hoyl shit RDN you lost supers to faggots that can't broadcast targets?!?!?!

    April 21, 2012 at 1:31 am Reply
    1. u madbro? lots of nerd rage there….

      April 21, 2012 at 3:32 am Reply
  15. cartel citizen 10101

    neutral rifter is confirmed maybe neutral.

    fire eveything!

    April 21, 2012 at 3:36 am Reply
  16. Matty

    Better to kill them in a straight up fight than baiting a noob into unholy deathrape. More stories like this!

    April 21, 2012 at 10:42 pm Reply
  17. Pirate/Real pvper

    well is always nice to see 0.0 overlords gettin raped by poor pirates.
    The cant even won in what they do best: blob and more specifically blob caps

    And thats a rape if you see what the 2 forces had in field.

    Fuckin teribad 0.0 nulli ally are only fags, they will not handle 2minutes in a small/ high skilled pvp enviroment like it s gallente losec.

    April 21, 2012 at 11:32 pm Reply

Leave a Reply to Null Dweller Click here to cancel reply.