[spoiler show=”Show Introduction”]Gevlon Globbin is famous in the Word of Warcraft circle for having mastered the “gold-cap” concept:

I heard that [EVE] it’s a more hardcore game where trade is important. Since I was one of those who reached gold cap (the numerical max the game engine could manage) in WoW, it was pretty straightforward.

WoW was designed in a way that 30-40K is a huge fortune. You could buy all vanity from that gold. So the game used 32 bits for gold, making 216K the max (2^31/100). I reached that. Most players struggled getting 5K for big flying mount


His Eve journey show a very interesting “outside the box” approach to the game, reason for which we invite you to pay a visit to his blog.

Greedy Globins: What to do with all the money?

I wanted to prove that one can survive in the “harsh” world of EVE. After earning 7B in my very first two months, we can consider it done. The fact that “the last 365 days saw 1.12 million market transactions involving PLEX” means that there are at least 100K M&S in the game (out of 350K) who run out of ISK on the monthly basis due to constantly spending/losing more than they earn, despite it’s damn easy to earn money.

So the original ideas of “EVE is easy if you are not Moron or/and a Slacker (M&S)” and “there are lot of M&S in EVE” are proved. However the cursed “fun” concept is still there to save them. It seems like an unfalsifiable way for them to ignore every proof and remain M&S. It says “what I do is fun and I play for fun, so I do it right, while you are a no-lifer lol”. Since the canon says that “fun is subjective”, he is free to claim that whatever he is doing – or rather happening to him – is fun, therefore he is “winning EVE”. Running missions for crappy income is fun. Wandering aimlessly in lowsec attacking random people and finally getting blown up is fun too. Having “awsome itemz” is fun too. On the other hand I only have pixel numbers which are not fun. Nullsec sov? That’s boring too. Everything that is objectively measurable is by definition boring, making sure that the fact that he suck in the game doesn’t affect the statement that he and his equally terrible friends are great and everyone who is not them is a no-lifer. The “fun” concept also makes non-M&S socials say “yes they aren’t really good but they have different priorities so we shouldn’t judge them”.

I keep deleting annoying amount of troll comments asking “what will u do with that ISK? u just grind and cant have no fun lol”. I start to recognize that it’s not trolling, human beings really believe that performing well and gaining the “scores” of the game is not fun and the proper way to play. They also really can’t see that fooling around is … fooling around.

If I want to reach the salvagable socials, the ones who are not incompetent, yet not rich either and torn between being effective and “have fun lol”. They are locked by the axiom that for a social person being liked and respected by peers is important, therefore if his friends are claiming X fun, he can’t just tell “you are idiots and you suck”. Since the M&S is very vocal about his fun concept, even if they are a minority in ones circles, their opinion will be the standard, and the salvagable social will suffer serious peer pressure to conform to their idiocy and also boost them when they are “unlucky”.

However there are a loophole in this system. “pwning” peers is by definition “fun” and “being pwned” is not, the opposite, it’s “tears”. It comes from the ape-subroutines as among apes the strongest one (who pwns) have access to sex while the others do not. This is where the sexual phrases describing competition come from (like “e-peen”, “he is fucked”, “sucker”). So if one is “pwned”, he can’t claim that he had fun. It’s different from “good fight” when he had a chance to win. If you “pwn” you are the winner and no social person questions that.

So to prove without question that the objective-oriented, a-social “goblinish” approach is the way to win, I must pwn them. Great. I sound like a Goon now. Actually I understand them and my resentment towards them decreased some. Not much since their actions are for fun too. They convey no message besides “we are great and pubbies suck”. Neither the victim, nor the observers can learn anything from Goon pwnage.

However there is a problem with “proving via pwning”: pointless griefing is pointless, therefore totally ungoblinish. Doing the opposite of what I preach would prove no point. Also because it’s the opposite of what I believe in, I hate it and would hate every second spent ganking. I’m devoted to my beliefs but I’m not a saint to sacrifice great portion of my time suffering for them.

How to solve this puzzle then? How to “pwn” without actually doing it?

There is a ship which is “pwning” in itself. One that makes or breaks the epic 1000+ battles. One that blaps (oneshots) other ships. One whose demise make it into the news and make the the ones killed it heroes. The titan.

So, to prove that the best way to “win” EVE is being a ruthless, a-social businessman is to pilot a titan. Of course it will need me to join a nullsec alliance. I will have months to find one. Also by “pwning” in a titan, I’m not pointlessly ganking random people which I despise, but helping an alliance that is more goblinish (even if just marginally) than the one we go to war with.

How will I do it? I earned 2.5B last week. 2 in the previous and 1.5 the one before. See the tendency? If I can keep it this way, I’ll have over a trillion before my first birthday. Even if I flat out at 5B/week, I’ll have 250B. So I can easily give the alliance the money needed to build the titan I’ll pilot, and can help haul the materials too. So their fleet would gain a free titan. Of course it won’t be on the first day. I’ll join long before I can fly one and fly with them as Basilisk/Guardian/Rhea/Orca pilot. We have to learn each other, making sure that our aims can be aligned. For example I wouldn’t mind having a fully tanked, low DPS titan sent into the front line, even if I lose it if it brings us a victory. If you remember the “250-1000B” part, it’s way within “don’t fly what you can’t replace”. However I would very much mind being asked to camp some gate and pop random lost people or asked for my phone number to be called when not playing. RL > game.

Titans can’t be docked so you can’t leave them. You can only put them to safety by logging out. So you need a separate titan pilot character. Also lot of skill points are needed even to sit into the empty hull and lot of more to effectively fly it. An alt learning it would kill the improvement of my main, so I started a third account. It’s trial currently, learning Cybernetics 4 at the moment. I have 21 days to change my mind, so if you see some obstacle ahead of my plan, don’t hesitate to comment.

I created the account using “invite a buddy” so I get a free PLEX after activating it with a PLEX. I read the EULA, and found no problem using the “invite a buddy” promotion for your own account, but if I missed something, please inform me, I won’t risk ban for lousy half B. Obviously I’ll pay for that account only with PLEX.

I keep documenting my “titanic” path along with my main and the 3 alts on the second account making even more ISK. I hope many of you will get the taste of trading. The ultimate proof would be not that I can drive a titan by trading (that could be explained by me being way above average). It would be that most people who go the goblin way would end up in a titan, a supercarrier, or with a stable of battleships and strategic cruisers.

One question: which titan? My favorite is the Ragnarok due to it’s being least popular, so probably will get a buff soon (“741 active characters in a titan: Erebus 300, Avatar 257, Leviathan 98, Ragnarok 86.”) and has a great “7.5% reduction in gang members’ signature radius per level” bonus what would actively help the fleet even with low skills. I know other titans have similar or even better gang bonuses but they don’t stack and I’m sure the alliance already have several Erebuses and Avatars.

Business report: Wednesday morning 7.0B (0.1B gifts 3 PLEX behind for second account).

Remember that you can participate in our EVE conversations and very soon group activities on the “goblinworks” channel and your UI suggestions are welcomed.

– Gevlon Goblin

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  1. juice

    There are many different ways to play eve. And while it's true the more hardcore of us view these certain (m/s) people as being lost in their ways. It is, in the end their choice on how to play the game they pay for. Not everyone that plays video games is all about Min/Maxing. While you might think that being able to provide your own money for a titan, and then pwn in an alliance might be winning eve, there are many who would disagree. Eve is not like WoW, there is no clear way to win. Giving yourself a great gearscore, raiding 3 nights a week and reaching gold cap is pretty standard as WoW is concerned, sure you can win WoW. Especially since everyone in that game is soley focused on that one aspect. In eve people enjoy the game the want. As long as whatever they are doing is personally satasifying they are "win" Your personal goals might allow you to feel like your "win" OP, however not everyone in Eve is focused on one single aspect of the game, like in WoW. Eve online is a sandbox. And in a sandbox even if another kid comes over and kicks down you castle you just rebuild, and the next one will be better. There is no true way to win eve EXCEPT on a personal level. At the end of the day you feel like a winner, then your a winner. Even if to everyone else in the game you're a loser.

    April 12, 2012 at 7:02 pm Reply
  2. fu!!!!!

    LOL after reading all this i just finally realized what an epic troll it is………….i mean seriously Riv

    April 12, 2012 at 7:27 pm Reply
  3. fu!!!!!

    i mean lol hell the fact that he thinks caping gold in wow is hard shows hes a noob to real mmos…….seriouly if u spend more then a few months on wow you are just bad or dont realize that there is alot better mmos out there to suck up your 15/mo………..hell he pry thinks all this shit hes doing with new toons and plex is something he invented when in reality the rest of us been doing it since the day plex showed up on the market

    April 12, 2012 at 7:31 pm Reply
  4. fu!!!!!

    and all this shit about who pwns who means nothing in wow cuz death means walking back to your body……….in eve when u get pwnt its not your epeen that hurts most its your wallet, this isnt wow where u stack up gold and never use it for anything but getting more gold…………ne way paraphrasing sweet dee "oh they are gonna eat you alive in eve, you are definitely gonna end up doing gay porn with that lil body."

    April 12, 2012 at 7:38 pm Reply
  5. chongo

    could not have said it better myself.

    April 12, 2012 at 9:28 pm Reply
    1. Some Dude

      I could have used better spelling and punctuation, but the basic point is true.

      April 12, 2012 at 11:21 pm Reply
  6. chongo

    This guy is eventually gonna realize what a dumb ass he is. ANYONE can make billions in weeks trading/missioning or whatever. The longer you play the less value u give to isk and the thing is who wants to sit in the computer 23hours a day updating hundreds of buy orders or repeatedly popping computer generated rats. Repetitive boring tasks are left for work hours. The best part of the game is exploring and making other people like this dumb ass give you sweet sweet tears.

    April 12, 2012 at 9:36 pm Reply
  7. Genoir

    condescending twattle from a guy that believes he's a gaming god because he made a lot of isk in Wow.

    in a reversal of the standard quote, it appears that when a player leaves wow to play eve the average IQ of both player bases are lowered.

    'surviving the harsh world of Eve' would probably also cover undocking from time to time.

    Enjoy your null sec life, I can't imagine the opposing FC will call 'Primary Greedy Goblin' too much

    April 12, 2012 at 9:55 pm Reply
  8. Paul

    Its interesting to note. That while the author boosts about the amount of isk he earned. He doesnt mention how much time it took him. So yes its easy to earn isk, but getting the isk isnt easy. It involves (if you dont do it the automated way) a lot of time doing repetitive tasks. I for sure would rather have no isk or less isk then doing hours upon hours repetitive tasks.

    April 12, 2012 at 10:35 pm Reply
  9. Unreal

    I just read a few of that guys blog entries and I believe he will one day be a serial killer.

    April 12, 2012 at 10:36 pm Reply
  10. Lube

    (s)kill yourself, (for) Morron(s) … actually im gonna finish reading this dudukaka http://gifs.gifbin.com/1232904154_dramatic%20lemu

    April 12, 2012 at 10:45 pm Reply
  11. Some Dude

    Interesting, so on the one hand, you are trying to win Eve. On the other hand, I have already won Real Life, so I can afford to pay money to play Eve.

    Put it this way: if you are trying to maximize your isk in the most efficient way, go out and get RL rich, then buy plexes. The isk/hour is amazing from my perspective.

    But play the game however you like. Just try and brush up on your writing skills if you're going to blog about it.

    April 12, 2012 at 11:36 pm Reply
    1. Whatever

      dude..seriously…learn how to play the game, only a bit, and use that money to something helpfull in RL than in a game that you can easily pay with ISK…you said you won in RL…then ffs do something to help those you arent even close to or dont even have a chance to won nothing in RL…dont brag about having lots of RL money that you spend in a game ( and it sounds you spend a lot rlly, buy plexes to convert in isk ) please dude…conscious…and to the OP…twat!

      April 19, 2012 at 7:30 pm Reply
  12. effe eue

    this is very 'stream of conscience' writing. this guy has prob gone off some kind of med recently.

    April 13, 2012 at 12:28 am Reply
  13. fu!!!!

    lol one more thing 7B in 2 months is a joke a good trader will make that in 2 days im sure 7b gold would be impressive but in eve your not shit if your not a trillionaire

    April 13, 2012 at 12:50 am Reply
  14. Genoir

    condescending twattle from a guy that believes he's a gaming god because he made a lot of isk in Wow.

    April 13, 2012 at 4:29 am Reply
  15. LOL.

    all those butthurt M&S here.

    April 13, 2012 at 11:21 am Reply
  16. 425mm

    but i like pwning, not titans :(

    April 13, 2012 at 3:06 pm Reply
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  20. Zen

    "I start to recognize that it’s not trolling, human beings really believe that performing well and gaining the “scores” of the game is not fun and the proper way to play. They also really can’t see that fooling around is … fooling around."

    They don't think what you do is fun, but it is – to you. You think what they do is just 'fooling around' and imply it's not the 'right' kind of fun and criticise them. Don't you see the irony?

    April 18, 2012 at 7:27 am Reply
  21. tropadelite

    We should just give this guy a Titan to STFU and get it over with.

    April 18, 2012 at 6:02 pm Reply
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