We can start this off with a video of the fight.  Be kind to the guy who recorded it.  He seemed to be a bit more preoccupied with recording what ended up being a pretty good fight than fighting from time to time.  Focus on the actual battle going on, because it looks like it was a good one.  Here’s the video:

The Lost Obsession alliance (home of Wolfbrigade) is one of the more well known Amarr Faction Warfare alliance.  It seems sYnc Vir was leading a fleet that had been hitting the complexes in the Huola system and, realizing it was about to go vulnerable, began calling for more numbers from their alliance.  Capitol One joined the fleet, along with reinforcements, upgrading the gang to be a solid fleet.  With the last plex down, the system becomes vulnerable.  The Minmatar militia FCs began scrambling to put together a fleet to counter Lost Obsession.  As the Minmatar numbers began climbing, word came back to the Lost Obsession FCs that a fleet that would be a realistic threat (not the usual throw frigates at it that is apparently common for faction sov wars) was forming to confront them, and the two FCs running the fleet decided to ask in the Faction chat for more numbers.  While further reinforcements began streaming out to join the Amarr fleet already there, the fleet began switching out for high dps shield battlecruisers, in anticipation of a fight.

With their numbers substantially swelled, the main fleet moved to the Kourmonen system, next door, and waiting on the Huola gate for the incoming Minmatar militia fleet. A few Minmatar FCs were pulling together multiple fleets and forming them up into one, unified fleet.  Amusingly enough, the Amarr were running a shield fleet (with Minmatar and Caldari ships) and the Minmatar were running a armor fleet (with mostly Amarr ships).  The Minmatar fleet knew they were a little outnumbered, as well as facing a fleet with a more unified fleet doctrine, rather than their more rag tag fleet.  They knew it was a suicide run, but into Valhalla they charged.

The Minmatar sent a portion of their fleet to harry the Amarr plexing fleet that was engaged on the bunker, while the rest of their fleet engaged a small complex, in hopes of pushing the system from vulnerable to contested.  The main Amarr force moved into Huola to clear out resistance in the major complex.  Realizing they needed more tank and dps, the Minmatar militia reshipped for battleships and warped into the complex to engage the Amarr fleet again. Capital One calls the first thing to be lockable primary, which ends up being a Minmatar guardian.  Followed by a megathron.   At 0:33 into the video above, you can see the two Archons the Minmatar jumped into the system to provide reps for the fleet ships.  I’m not sure, but I think one was triaged and the other was used for additional DPS.

At this point, things get really interesting.  The Amarr have the numbers, but the Minmatar have heavier ships.  Despite the triaged Archon, the high alpha ships in the Amarr fleet make it difficult to keep even some of their heavier ships alive.  The Minmatar begin losing ships at a much slower rate though, as the Amarr are forced to switch targets the moment the Archon begins repping something.  Both sides, rather full of less disciplined, newer players, begin to split fire.  Capitol One tried a few times to get the fleet to focus fire again, but the fleet is scattered around by this point, shooting targets of opportunity.  Fortunately for them, the Minmatar fleet has devolved to this point as well, so the fighting stabilizes as logi are able to keep pace with most of the incoming damage.  The battle began to lapse into a stalemate, as both sides had pilots who would rush back into the battle after the loss of a ship.  So, numbers stayed solid.

The Amarr began running out of small targets they could actually break before the carriers were able to rep them back up.  Despite this, the Amarr logis were pulling hero duty, preventing their fleet from losing much as well.  Intel comes in that the Minmatar have a reinforcement fleet inbound of Gallente militia, so the Amarr begin disengaging, putting space between the fleets.  The Minmatar fleet is unable to keep pace with the Amarr, due to their heavier and armor tanked ships.  The Amarr burn back to a station, dock up, and the call goes out for dreads.  The hope is that a few dreads could tip the balance by being able to remove the carriers from the field.  As they begin forming up, word comes back that one of the Minmatar Archons is tackled, out of docking range, at a station.  The dreads jump in, half cocked, and engage.  Unfortunately, the station had a large docking radius.  The carrier was actually in docking range and promptly docked.  The Amarr add to their fleet a few Vindicators and refit the dreads as tracking.  The fleet goes to work on the bunker, while the Minmatar hold their fleet back, apparently unable or unwilling to escalate this into a capital fight.

With the threat of dreads, the Minmatar allow the Amarr fleet to continue working in the bunker. The bunker eventually goes down and the system flips to Amarr.  The Minmatar came back and engaged the system yesterday, finally flipping it back to Minmatar sov a few hours ago.  In the end, good fights were had by both sides.



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  1. The Observer

    This has got to be the biggest faction fight EVER!!

    Seriously though, no one cares about faction warfare.

    April 7, 2012 at 5:00 am Reply
    1. Dutchblow

      seeing the video proofs you wrong

      April 7, 2012 at 8:38 am Reply
    2. The Nubserver

      You cared enough to make that comment.

      April 7, 2012 at 9:32 am Reply
  2. ^.^

    Good to see FW guys having a good time.

    April 7, 2012 at 5:04 am Reply
    1. Eh.

      Good to see FW guys at all, lately o_O.

      April 8, 2012 at 12:20 am Reply
  3. SgtSimons

    awesome job both side! This is what eve is really about effin awesome fights!

    Also i think it is awesome that the fight broke up into smaller fights on the same grid. You don't see that often

    April 7, 2012 at 5:12 am Reply
    1. 0_0

      lol you don't see that often cuz disciplined pvpers know not to do something as noobish as say… not listen to the fc?

      April 7, 2012 at 6:28 am Reply
  4. Carl Sagan

    We come for our People!

    That was the UK motto. Never was in UK but I thought that was cool.

    April 7, 2012 at 5:27 am Reply
  5. Silence

    Took it back next day.
    Woop de doo

    April 7, 2012 at 5:32 am Reply
    1. Bob

      The point was about the (rare) good fight, not the 6 hours you spent the next day playing with yourselves to take it back. Yay pointless sov

      April 7, 2012 at 2:10 pm Reply
  6. Gumpin

    Imagine if they were real nullsec alts with a legit FC that could call targets and get focused fire?

    April 7, 2012 at 5:37 am Reply
    1. BOb

      We are fw not null sec we don't have massive blob experiance like you most of our fights we are outnumbered and are going for opertunity kills some people just can't change mindset my thrasher was in that and I was burning from primary to primary rapetraining frigs on the way

      April 9, 2012 at 10:13 am Reply
  7. oll

    i to target people at 40km with auto cannons gg noobs. what a unorganized crap fest.

    April 7, 2012 at 9:24 am Reply
    1. Eh.

      … pop Barrage in some 800s and you can hit pretty hard out to 70km, assuming you're not shitfit and your FC is paying attention to angular velocity.

      April 8, 2012 at 12:19 am Reply
  8. hirrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    her is the thing about FW all it would take is 1 or 2 major nullsec alliances to in a small amount make that factions dominate

    April 7, 2012 at 9:38 am Reply
    1. Bob

      They would get blue balled, and leave rather quickly under the current system as there is no 'need' to fight for system sov – when the new mechanics come in it could get interesting though

      April 7, 2012 at 2:08 pm Reply
    2. fu!!!!!

      u miss the point who the fuck wants FW sov?????

      April 8, 2012 at 6:49 pm Reply
  9. Thodoros

    Minmatar forever!

    April 7, 2012 at 11:23 am Reply
  10. s2n pilot

    Stuff like this makes me smile. The "Biggest faction warfare battle EVER" is about the size of your average "hey, wanna go fuck around in someone else's staging system?" in nullsec.

    With effects on, battles in nullsec look like a bunch of dots, with some pretty coloured lines all going to one ship, then a blue flash, then all the pretty coloured lines go to another ship, etc.

    Look at a battle like this, all the pretty coloured lines are just going everywhere :S

    Pretty sure i saw like four targets taking damage at once too XD

    April 7, 2012 at 11:38 am Reply
    1. Ergh

      Did you just make up a quote yourself, and then quote yourself as if someone else said it? "Biggest faction warfare battle EVER". Where in the article does it state that? Thats just really lame, making up complete lies.

      April 8, 2012 at 6:29 am Reply
  11. Somedude

    makes me wont to join FW lol

    April 7, 2012 at 12:11 pm Reply
  12. Arlekyn

    Nice fight. Think the most disciplined were the logistic pilots on both sides :) Anyways, looks like much more fun than the big fleet fights in nullsec.

    April 7, 2012 at 12:14 pm Reply
    1. yar

      The logistics pilots are almost always the most disciplined in any fleet. Comes with the territory I feel… but also a mindset thing. Logistics pilots aren't trying to whore killmails, they're just trying to win the damn war.

      April 8, 2012 at 12:14 am Reply
  13. sour

    seems like it was a good fight. mission accomplished for both sides then :)

    April 7, 2012 at 12:25 pm Reply
  14. 000

    Alright guys, I want everybody to shoot a different target to everybody else, and some of you keep shooting that structure, yeah, whatever the hell it is.. that's how they do it in null right?

    April 7, 2012 at 12:25 pm Reply
  15. sYnc Vir

    Was a good fight, we in W-BR were pretty pissed at the our fleet for failing to shoot the right target. Not to mention people that joined purely to solo targets within a fleet. Sadly is what you have to deal with from time to time.

    Thankfully they where enough people that know following primary targets matters as we where killing ships under triage reps.

    Props to our logi pilots of which I was one. We had just four scimis in this fight and more than onces saved a tier 3 in hull.

    April 7, 2012 at 12:45 pm Reply
  16. NotSureIfTrolling

    really boring

    April 7, 2012 at 1:28 pm Reply
  17. LightMeUpJohnny

    lol, the unprovoked aggression archons are shitfit, you could have probably broken it just by swarming it with drones

    April 7, 2012 at 2:11 pm Reply
  18. AAAAAAh

    Very nice story, im glad that FW pilots are having fun and old FW mechanics is still interesting enough to bring 2 sides into nice battle.

    April 7, 2012 at 5:53 pm Reply
  19. PL Winner

    watched that video for a few minutes – seems both side suck at focusing fire on primaries.

    April 7, 2012 at 6:15 pm Reply
    1. Reform Fleet Fights

      There is the chance that different wings and ship types have different primaries. kind of like using the fleet as a fleet rather than a giant gun that shoots one person then moves on to the next.

      April 8, 2012 at 2:42 am Reply
      1. BLM Kane Seere

        Didn't want to win that fight.

        April 8, 2012 at 10:40 pm Reply
  20. guest

    ships explodeing is nice to see.
    But (you knew there was a but in there) the total chaos on the part of both fleets was painfull to watch, i plan on putting an alt into one of the faction warfare corps and offering my services as an fc, you all could really benifit from some degree of organization, not just on the fleet comp side of thing, but more on the whole"everyone shoot at the same thing unless directed otherwise" side of things as well.
    I find it hard to believe that people who have played eve long enough to train into carriers and dreads would commit those ships to fleets like that, it just begs for a more organized group (hell even the orphans are more organized) to come in and pad their killboards.
    I'll be seeing you all soon and i will do what i can to whip at least one of the militias into shape.

    April 8, 2012 at 1:25 am Reply
  21. WolfsWho

    Looks more like another Wolfsbrigade "we are significant" bit of prose. Weren't shit in Caldari, aren't shit in Amarr. Couldn't hang in 0.0. Nuff said.

    April 8, 2012 at 7:53 pm Reply
  22. newsoul

    Make Low sec moons available only to FW corps.

    April 9, 2012 at 3:53 am Reply
  23. Leroy Jenkins

    so, which retarded FC warps his fleets off to kill a last geddon, while there are still 2 archons on the field which could be killed ?

    April 9, 2012 at 9:08 am Reply
    1. Bob

      The geddon kill was later about 3 systems away learn to read a map ?

      April 9, 2012 at 10:25 am Reply
  24. A Dude

    This was actually a pretty good fight, fuck everyone from nullsec here calling it shit. It was actually pretty entertaining. I'm from null and I'm willing to call a good fight when I see one, and this was a good fight.
    The rest of you need to get over your own epeens.

    April 9, 2012 at 5:24 pm Reply
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