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bullying period is very dumb…..besides that, you have my approval to remove bullying from the phrase “cyber bullying” and make a new video, i shall then subscribe 😉
Cyber bullying < bullyingnut up when you are on the internet. Or don’t go online.It’s not that serious, in the end.
Not counting legitimate ” I think this guy is Good” votes, just goons. + alts
I know someone who was a recruiter for a Corp. He had 48 accounts. I have no idea why he needed that many.
WB Hooligan. Fill us in on the 15 trillion PL deal. If they will be petitioning it. (They should if they have been lending ISK)
We saw the real Mittani that day and what he is realy like. Alchohol lowers your inhibitions and so he said what he realy meant to say. Being drunk is no excuse. And being a CSM chairman he represents the Eve community and should be held accountable for his actions in a public forum just like politicians are in real life.
And that’s why I will never drink in my life (Jesus that’s hard to do) (just a little bit)…
Sorry, but what he did was deplorable and asinine. I can’t believe people are making excuses (call them whatever you want; they are excuses) saying that “it isn’t a big deal”, “it was in jest” or “he’s apologised”. Maybe it’s that the playerbase of EVE is so emotionally stunted that they don’t realise why such behaviour is unacceptable *in real life*. Maybe they are just an apathetic crowd. The point is that A. Gianturco’s comments were out of line and his apology is as fake as they come.
Could you not base your argument on assumptions?
I’m not making an argument; merely stating my opinion. And I am basing it on reality, nothing more and nothing less. It’s people like you who have nothing of weight to say so you have to construct silly rhetoric to make (meaningless) points.
Math teacher Mint spanks Mittani with a ruler. Awesome!
I doubt he is sorry. In his apology he said “leaving me and my people free to do as we please without needing to consider corporate, political, or media ramifications every time we make a **** joke, offend someone, or sell a supercap made of vapor.” And as for him saying this because he was drunk, he actually planned this before hand as you can hear in this clip: /watch?v=fTRQ05Bqq_E (starting 7:20)
I don’t think its funny to try and push a guy over the edge and kill himself, in my eyes thats pretty sick, people play eve to get away from real life or to have fun, but everyone knows there’s a line you just don’t cross and mittani leap over that line, and what comes around goes around, if this guy had went through with killing himself then mittani should be held responsible, and when he’s in prison and becomes his cell-mates new gf, he will get small taste of how that guy felt like.
You are just making excuses for him, his actions were that of a pathetic human being, his apology was pathetic i.e – “leaving me and my people free to do as we please without needing to consider corporate, political, or media ramifications every time we make a **** joke, offend someone, or sell a supercap made of vapor.”, the sort of thing you expect from a spoilt child.As for his whining about being his ban, it is stupid computer game, perhaps he should HTFU, then grow up, then get a life.
A lot of what was said in many ways is just common sense, imo. However, many people use online to enhance their personalities to levels that they normally don’t have in real life.And as far as GS destroying Jita…..when has GS actually fullfilled a promise it’s made? They need to just go back to getting whipped by NC.
Wait…when did politicians start being held accountable?
Poor cat…. anyone else see its lion type haircut?
hehe.
“it is stupid computer game, perhaps he should HTFU, then grow up, then get a life.”The same should be said for the guy who was going to kill himself over an internet spaceship game. Apparently im a bad human being for laughing at said person.
STOP video at start of 9second… heheheh EPIC FACE
Yep absolutely, its the victims fault for not going out of their way to avoid being bully.
He should of been perma banned and never allowed run for CSM again.
OMG, more videos with the fluffy kittie!!!!!
Someone said “Microchip” and I thought of Minty, came to have a look. It is now my second birthday, could not be happier!.As far as I see it, Mittens showed his true colours (he would not be leading Goons if he was not a jerk) and assassinated himself.*Dances around*.Thanks for the report. =)
If you saw his presentation from last year you will see that he is an extremely intelligent, serious individual, but that didn’t go over well with the crowd, so this year he tried acting more like his in game persona and it failed dramatically. I personally feel like he is embarrassed at this public shamefulness because it hurts his RL appearance. If you have anything to add or debate to this, please let me know.
I’ve always said fire kills itself and that’s what Mitranny did to his reputation. I wonder how he would feel if someone he loved killed themself because of someone else exploiting their real life human vulnerabilities. We as humans are not perfect and each of us have our own problems, but what Mitranny did IS PUNISHABLE BY U.S. LAW given if he was successful in his attempt regardless if he was drunk or not.
like always mintchip derping it up with autism
die in fire
destroy Jita? yeah right keep dreaming.
My thoughts exactly. CCP wants to be all political and stuff but has panels where people are drunk n stuff, IRL isn’t a game and as such people should take it seriously to some extent. Yes FanFest is a giant ball of party but you have to balance professionalism with debauchery.
First. This adds nothing to the current debate.
Since when has ***king Mintchip added ANYTHING to any debate? She comes late to every party and then just repeats everything that's been said before.
(Her ***king Soundwave interview was so much fluff, she was selling excess to the Spanish Inquisition (for their soft cushions and comfy chairs.))
WAIT A SEC POETIC "FUCKING" STANZIEL is talking shit about being relevant?
Dude the only thing I hear from you is crying about Eveuni all day… get the fuck outta here… you serious?
Also all this Mintchip hate is weird, does EVE turn you against women or something? Thats pretty gay (pun intended)
No. For instance, Sindel and Arydanika. They're awesome women.
It's a hate for everything retarded. I cannot abide useless people.
I see what you did there.
Women don't get a free pass on being stupid just for being women.
"Thats pretty gay (pun intended)" Erm….Pun? Unless your incorrectly using the word gay there is no pun.
"Also all this Mintchip hate is weird, does EVE turn you against women or something?"
Now either you don't play EVE or you suspect that you yourself might be gay and are using this post to ask your peers their sexual orientation?
"Dude the only thing I hear from you is crying about Eveuni all day… get the fuck outta here… you serious?"
And noones heard from you at all and you think he talks shit yet you still read his stuff? Unless you dont read his stuff and you dont know what your talking about?
If you are going try to come across as a fellow intellectual please try to use basic spelling and grammar in your debating posts!
You're not your *
Painful to see a language being used so badly, that is all.
audible mouth diarrhea. that's what this was.
Hah, guys listen to this:
"Mintchip? MORE LIKE MINTSHIT
YUBEENHAZED"
Yeah, I know.
😐
Go Kill yourself MintChip
this
now i realize this is vague and only partially relevant but as and experienced attorney the mittens is he should know about this kinda stuff unless he was not as successful as lead to believe. and is just living off someone else's hard work. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr1966/… but maybe mittens needs to read this he has time on his hands too bad not longer like a couple years in prison.
let me help you mittens i do not want you to have to read too much this is cyber bullying.
intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
that looks like usa law, he was in iceland at the time.
Talking about law on this forum would be pointless, but it suffices to say that there is very little chance he will be prosecuted for his actions.
The bill also says repeated, so there is no problem
he is still an American citizen does not matter what country he was in.
There's that famous American ignorance we all know and love, I'll be dining on that little gem for a week, thanks CFC genius.
I blame the last two executive administrations for this.
Seriously? How many PvP activities in EVE DON'T meet those requirements?
how true but that is why most laws are layered with gray areas
Amusingly, in your mind those grey areas exist to protect anyone you like and hang those you don't.
This is EVE. This whole drama has been backed 90% by people pissed at beensuicide ganked and the Ice interdiction in particular, or by people who will otherwise beneft politically. Whether it be CSM or null motivated.
No. laws are not "layered with gray areas", laws are pretty black and white. It's a judicial systems job to see where laws apply to real world circumstances and to what degree, which are never black and white.
He is a grown up man who said some rude things to another grown up man.
This is what's wrong with the world when someone can go to jail for talking.
Well that every person in eve in prison then, and bully is repetitive harassment, this was on comment with out a real name involved unless you count mittians real name being known by the whole eve commmunity
Last I knew, this bill was never passed over constitutional concerns…I would guess freedom of speech. Secondly, whoever suggested a lawsuit is being silly. Not to be cruel, but the guy didn't kill himself….the damages to be awarded would be limited at best and likely there wouldn't be any of substance.
That said, I think Mittens likely just banished himself to simply being the Goonian that he is rather than playing nice guy politician. Wonder what the vote looks like next year? Goons and friends will keep him on the CSM as long as he wants to be on it I'd think.
I have yet to see evidence of how really 'successful' an attorney Mittani really is. Given his childish and immature nature, I would guess not a good one.
He was a corporate lawyer. Not criminal lawyer. Corp lawyers are equivalent to accountants.
Their prestige is limited to the company they are retained by. I'm going to hazard a guess that if he had so much time to play an MMO, he didn't work for a big firm.
shh i am having a W**K
Oh cmon, vids are light entertainment. If you dont like them dont watch them.
Kill yourself Mintchip lol
Aw, you're all such meanies. Ignore them, Mintchip!
If I were that young and cute, I'd make videos, too.
So just be happy it's Mintchip, regardless what she has to say, and not wicked old me.
You're Such a beg
she are not cute
Am I the only one that finds her "title" on this site bizarre?
What she really does is simplify major events for casual players that need a "TLDR" version.
This is not an insult, just an observation. I don't have a strong dislike for her or anything. I think the more people talking about Eve, the better.
However, calling her a "leading opinion maker" is definitely inaccurate, right?
shh dick
as one of Eve's top opinion makers it is of my opinion that she is one of Eve's top opinion makers….
</wormhole>
Lol top opinion maker? More like top kugu copy and paster
Incidentally, she'd actually have to make her own opinions which are then shared by others to qualify as an "opinion maker" this applies to yourself, Riv.
Riverini, I want to you go to youtube and look up Brianna Frost.
Start posting some of those and i'll watch them. Even if they don't involve internet spaceships. (Well one of them MIGHT involve something that could be a Thorax).
Just out of curiosity do you mean that by been a top opinionj maker that once she HAS an opinion she unifies 90% of the eve community on the opposite end of it?
Riverini has a little crush on her. He has admitted this on kugu somewhere (too lazy to find the exact thread and page)
She slept her way into PL guess she can do it again to get more coverage on evenews24
And yet it's you that looks like a bitch. GJ.
As always, i came just for the comments. Like most do im sure.
They are the real entertainment in anything posted about her in my opinion.
Hater gonna hate
You done been hated on.
eh… not rocket science here. She makes crap video on YT, you watch it, YT pays her, she buys stuffs, you remain trapped in basement?
Paid by youtube for this drivel?
userious?
that bitch is lookin' hella raggedy lately
I wish I could be EVE famous just because of my gender…
that's an awesome looking cat!!
Kitty!
Mintchip is a noob
No. You seem to be missing a few things: Chronology and content. It’s quite crucial. There is abuse and then there is response to abuse. He abuses, I respond. He tells people to go kill themselves, I support a ban. Your “conclusion” is simplification to the point of lying.
titts this time?
I think MintSpin got a hard on for the Martini .
Have you seen Gianturco's face? A tree stump would wilt if it was asked to have sex with that.
Hey somehow I have not been subscribed to you when I thought I was 😀 I wanted to let you know this problem has been resolved haha. And thanks for being subscribed to me also
What Mittani has done is unacceptable in virtual reality or in real life. To complain about the lenient punishment imposed by CCP and threatening a Jita-bombing to celebrate his un-banning equates to a convicted criminal claiming persecution against justice being exercised and exacting revenge on parole.
This childish behaviour demonstrates Mittani's immature character as a person completely unfit for the leadership role of CSM
Mintchip was clearly making an observational point. It disgust me people behave like complete jerks behind the veil of internet anonymity. Grow up
I'll preface my statement with this: I have no veil of internet anonymity (I ran for CSM last year so my real identity is out there for anybody who looks), and neither does The Mittani (for the same reason).
EVE Online is a game. In particular, it is a game about blowing up spaceships. Keep that in mind when you start making parallels to what might happen to real life criminals. Just imagine if the same parallels were made with in-game activities in GTA, or CoD, or even the fucking Sims.
Threats against The Mittani's dog however are not within the boundaries of a game. I wonder where you stand on those?
Perhaps you've misunderstood. Although EVE online is game, encouraging others to cyber bully or even giving them the opportunity to attack someone who may be mentally vulnerable and potentially suicidal in a public arena that is alliance panel crosses the line.
Ransoming someone as a scary EVE pirate is one thing but when that sort of behaviour involves real life problems then it's just unacceptable. You wouldn't want people to send your own mother hate mail now would you?
I'm glad you have the guts to stand publicly in CSM but the point above refers to the numerous profanity filled comments with a nameless tag. Do you honestly believe people, like those above, would walk the street and shout insults at the first person that looked at them funny or made a comment they didn't entirely disagree with or even the for the fun of it?
Threatening people's pet's is not something I do and is a completely different kettle of fish
Yes, I'm quite familiar with Gabriel's Greater Internet Dickwad Theory, but that's not what we're talking about here (although I do appreciate being able to engage in a reasonable discussion about it, and on the Internet of all places!).
What you said was "What Mittani has done is unacceptable in virtual reality or in real life". What he did was encourage people to attack somebody's internet spaceships. We do this all the time in EVE Online, it's the core foundation of the game. How can it be "unacceptable in virtual reality"? And again, The Mittani was a dick about suggesting at Fanfest that people blow this guy's ships up. He saw this in the video footage and apologised to the guy for it. He didn't blame being drunk, and it wasn't a conditional apology.
Sure, suggesting that people harass somebody in reality is unacceptable, regardless of whether they are suicidal or not, but (and let me be very clear about this) EVE Online is a game about blowing up spaceships, it is not reality.
Now you're saying "when that sort of behaviour involves real life problems then it's just unacceptable", which strikes me as odd. From what you're saying, anybody who has logged in to EVE while they're feeling bad should have special rules for whether you can engage their ships or not.
In the version of EVE I play it's generally accepted that if you undock your spaceship it's possible that you might lose it. It's your choice to undock a ship, and (noobs aside) everybody should be well aware that suicide ganking happens. It's not everybody else's responsibility to check to make sure you're mentally healthy before ganking, or even to stop if you say you're feeling bad.