Originally posted here.

Dev Blog: Alliance panel at FanFest 2012 – The Conclusion

As some of you might have heard, one of the Alliance leaders speaking at the Alliance Panel during EVE Fanfest 2012 breached our EULA/TOS with some ill-advised remarks about a fellow EVE player. It goes without saying that CCP deeply regrets this incident and will work towards reducing any possibility of this happening again in the future.

CCP requested that all panel PowerPoint presentations and discussion topics be handed in beforehand for approval. Regrettably, the offending comments were made during an unscripted Q&A session after the main presentations.

Following a thorough internal review CCP has decided to respond to this clear violation of our Terms of Service and wholly inappropriate use of the Alliance Panel. According to our existing policies, we have issued a 30 day ban from EVE Online to the panel speaker.

The policy of CCP is not to publicly discuss warnings and bans on an individual basis. This situation is entirely unique because the panel was displayed via CCP’s Fanfest video stream component, a platform analogous to our forums. As a result we have published this statement due to the special circumstances involved. However, our policy remains that we will not publicly discuss warnings and bans.

The panelist has subsequently posted a public apology as well as a private apology to the victim of his attack. He has also resigned from his position as Chairman of CSM 6 and has forfeited his right to serve on CSM 7. As per our policies, this candidate may be eligible to run at a later date subject to candidacy review.

The Council of Stellar Management is a democratically elected council that represents the players of EVE Online. Although council members may represent the players in any manner they choose, being a council member does not permit actions or playstyles that violate our policies.

GM Salmon
VP of Customer Relationship Management

106 Comments

  1. Gumpin

    Someone took the thin TOS breach i mentioned?

    Awesome 😀

    haters got hated on.

    March 29, 2012 at 12:20 am Reply
    1. Gumpin

      I can't tell if the negs is goonswarm thinking im hating on mittens, or the TOS people angry im hating on them*.

      Either way its funny.

      March 29, 2012 at 12:28 am Reply
      1. shadoo

        or your just retarded and people dont like it when people are retarded on comments

        March 30, 2012 at 1:30 am Reply
  2. Your Mom

    With The Mittani now having been banned from serving on CSM7 and the change to the rules where there are no longer any alternates, it seems the only fair thing to do is to have a re-vote. With The Mittani receiving almost 20% of the votes all alone, that is a huge number of voters whose voice will no longer be heard on the CSM. Is this how CCP wants to have the "player's voice" influenced? With the positive changes they have been making and the beneficial support that CSM6 has given to CCP in a trying year, I believe they will want to do the right thing here and ensure that the disenfranchised voter's voice is heard.

    March 29, 2012 at 12:24 am Reply
    1. Derp

      A politician holds his constituents' votes in his hands. If he stumbles and drops the ball, his constituents should blame the politician, not the system.

      March 29, 2012 at 12:32 am Reply
      1. fuck

        As far as I know, the democratic system is made to serve the voters, not the other way around. Or am I just an idealist?

        March 29, 2012 at 12:47 am Reply
        1. corelin

          http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/11/03/dead-sena

          10k voted for mittens. 18k voted for losers. Voting doesn't guarantee you a voice in the council. Voting IS your voice. Some will be heard and some wont. 10k+ voted for someone they knew pushed the edge and who occasionally acted rashly.

          March 29, 2012 at 1:36 am Reply
          1. Gumpin

            voter apathy at its finest.

            March 29, 2012 at 1:50 am
          2. shadoo

            the 10k votes are just mindless goon votes, which the only reason they voted for him is because he is their alliance leader, so i dont see why it matters.

            March 30, 2012 at 1:08 am
    2. momijisu

      Agreed with Derp, if a politician get's fired or steps down during his time in office, there is not an automatic re-election. The term is fulfilled by the replacement.

      March 29, 2012 at 12:38 am Reply
      1. Your Mom

        I am not aware of a precedent (I haven't really looked though) of a constituent getting removed before the term begins though. I can think of a few U.S. Senators that died after being nominated who were able to be replaced despite the rules saying otherwise however.

        March 29, 2012 at 12:43 am Reply
        1. Urziel99

          In those cases the governor of the state usually appoints someone to fill in their term. I am assuming however that this appointment must be approved by a states legislature, similar to cabinet appointments.

          March 29, 2012 at 3:53 am Reply
          1. Anonymouse

            Or they could just grab the next guy on the list, they have additional candidates after #14 you know…

            March 29, 2012 at 6:35 am
        2. Byron D

          Jean Carnahan… nuff said.

          March 29, 2012 at 3:36 pm Reply
    3. lasterax

      Doubt it, I'm sure their response will be the easy one – that seat is vacant until next election.

      March 29, 2012 at 1:02 am Reply
  3. CSM revote

    Where ist the Real life EULA/TOS for the fan fest,CCP?

    Free Mittani !!!!!

    March 29, 2012 at 12:28 am Reply
    1. TEST

      FREE MITTANI!!

      According to this I can get people banned for making me feel bad at all future CCP events. Call me a name or a swear word and I will request a 30 day ban of you!

      March 29, 2012 at 12:31 am Reply
      1. Gumpin

        If you don't use something from inside the game, you're fine.

        That's their logic. The mail originated in game. Thus, TOS/EULA applies.

        March 29, 2012 at 12:33 am Reply
    2. TheTrueFact

      tbh m8 i dont think u wanna walk that path, cause if u really do then i guess you'd have to call in Icelandic law on incitement on hatecrime or something of that sort, and that could land alex with a 2 year jail sentence.

      so i think standing down as chairman and getting a 30day temp-ban is light and just.

      March 29, 2012 at 12:38 am Reply
      1. ViperRum

        Hate crime? You're an idiot.

        March 29, 2012 at 12:56 am Reply
      2. Gumpin

        You know an italian guy threatened suicide to a CCP mod and they called the police and found he wasn't going to do it. He's now got a complaint against him from the Icelandic police.

        Today might be a bad day for mittens, tomorrow might be a bad day for The Wis.

        March 29, 2012 at 1:56 am Reply
        1. Bensbig

          Once again you prove you do not really have the mental capacity to really understand. You must be able to understand the difference between the italian guy and the mittaniwis situation because its really not that complex and ………………………………I suggest dropping the E-lawyer roleplay, its not working for you and it detracts from better trolls in this thread 😉

          March 29, 2012 at 1:21 pm Reply
        2. Guest

          You have no clue…. carry on.

          March 29, 2012 at 2:05 pm Reply
    3. BillyBob

      This course of action sets a very perilous precedent for CCP and how they handle issues of this sort in the future. while I do feel Mittani crossed the line, i also feel that his actions afterword were genuine and benefiting of his position(s). it's a dark day for EVE when we must begin to censor ourselves for fear of the ban-hammer, especially when considering the relatively trivial circumstances and lighthearted surroundings that led up to this.

      March 29, 2012 at 12:49 am Reply
      1. amusing

        ccp is not trying to censor public opinion on individuals, but there is a legal precedent they have to consider that might pot them in the same basket with mittani, so they are trying to defuse the situation without escalation. comments and bloggers are lighting up this issue like a Christmas tree forcing ccp to take actions. best for him to keep a low profile than inflaming the situation, you as goon buddy not helping him or ur alliance.

        March 29, 2012 at 1:08 am Reply
        1. Gumpin

          thing is, if the guy took mitten's isk and kept it, or any thing from mittens or ccp. He's got no legal grounds left to sue.

          It counts as a settlement.

          March 29, 2012 at 1:54 am Reply
          1. Bensbig

            at first when I read your comment I was thinking you were correc………………………………………….what the hell am I saying, you are just wrong. According to your logic, all that is required is to send a mail to someone and deposit money in their bank account and that is a settlement???? Puff Puff Give!!!!!

            March 29, 2012 at 1:12 pm
          2. Guest

            Nope… heres the thing…. CCP invited all this media to fanfest, there were reps from sony at the show, and the show was suppose to be focused on DUST. CCP could not do nothing when this dude clearly broke the EULA/TOS, and with DUST being such a big part of the show, and with CCP's partnership with Sony on the DUST launch, there really wasn't much of a choice.

            The isk is not relevant in anyway, no question Sony will ask CCP how they handled this, and CCP can't say, "Oh it's all good, he broke the EULA/TOS, and embarassed us both on live stream, but he sent some dude in game credits, so we can sweep it all under the rug"

            March 29, 2012 at 2:04 pm
          3. Byron D

            Really? Isk is now legal tender? You need to get a fucking life like the rest of the retards in this GAME!

            March 29, 2012 at 3:31 pm
      2. Lotsofail

        Yeah, suicide is hilarious, trivial even…

        Maybe the CFC apologists should have spent more time talking him out of this incredibly stupid idea, and less time defending him. If he did nothing wrong he shouldn't have apologized, right? The fact is he did, because he violated a real-world social more. As soon as he did that Eve goes out the window. If he didn't want the consequences maybe he shouldn't have tried to incite people in such a hateful fashion. As to his punishment and the CFC's "disenfranchisement."

        ~~deal with it~~

        March 29, 2012 at 5:13 am Reply
        1. someone

          You're not Mittens, Darius.. Deal with it…

          March 29, 2012 at 10:21 am Reply
  4. AnonymousRex

    Let justice be done upon him. Funny stuff.

    March 29, 2012 at 12:31 am Reply
  5. Hudson

    "Well that great, that's just fuckin' great man. Now what the fuck are we supposed to do? We're in some real pretty shit now man. That's it man, game over man, game over. What are we gonna do now? WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO?

    Oh yeah, IDGAF

    March 29, 2012 at 12:31 am Reply
  6. Wayne D

    WTF, he wasn't even seriously inciting a mass suicide mail.
    This shit is whack yo

    March 29, 2012 at 12:34 am Reply
    1. aschen halen

      i dont think that anyone seriously suggested that soundwave DIAF either.

      punishment fits the crime – do the time, move on

      March 29, 2012 at 12:38 am Reply
      1. Wayne D

        The crime is a lie

        It was a joke, the real spirit of eve at it's finest
        This is a sad day

        March 29, 2012 at 12:41 am Reply
        1. M1k3y

          Obvoious goon on damage control is obvious

          March 29, 2012 at 1:13 am Reply
        2. karma

          telling someone to die is in eves spirit? i must be playing the wrong game then

          March 29, 2012 at 1:33 am Reply
          1. Anonymouse

            The true spirit of eve is the market and what the products let you do for yourself, for others, and to others….

            March 29, 2012 at 2:49 am
  7. free Mittani

    FREIGHTER AND HAULER WILL BURN.

    1 KILL FOR EVERY MITTENS CSM VOTE

    ITS WILL BE A MASS – IT WILL BE EPIC – JITA WILL BURN

    FREE MITTANI

    March 29, 2012 at 12:39 am Reply
    1. M1k3y

      All for burning jita, but screw mittens.

      Theres a reason people dont get fall down drunk before a presentation.

      March 29, 2012 at 1:13 am Reply
  8. BillyBob

    Free Mittani!

    This is nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction by CCP to a situation that was resolved amicably before it even become front page news.

    March 29, 2012 at 12:42 am Reply
    1. Bitturnoob

      Knee jerk? It's been at least 2 days since the media shitstorm started. They were obviously wrestling with it and this is the outcome. And who says it was resolved amicably? A lot of people were calling for his head. As for the Mackinaw pilot victim, it's irrelevant to me whether he's alive and was given 10B. The Mittani couldn't have known whether the guy was serious or not when he made the statements. The fact that he was OK and was compensated is great, but it's not a defense.

      March 29, 2012 at 1:20 am Reply
    2. Lotsofail

      If he didn't want to get banned he shouldn't have tried to send people to get a guy to kill himself. Everything before and after that is irrelevant. If you can't see the line between a game and real-life, then maybe you need a time-out.

      Some things just aren't done in any context and Mittens should have known better. Just because you can be a douche in a game, doesn't give you license IRL Helicity Boson got perma-banned for a DIAF comment about Soundwave and is only back after a lot of grovelling.

      Mittens got off light.

      March 29, 2012 at 5:24 am Reply
  9. Tough decision.

    Probably just couldn't ignore all the bad press.

    March 29, 2012 at 12:42 am Reply
  10. hippy

    Not a huge goon fan but I kinda hope they wardec every hi sec corp and alliance. As well as boycott dust. CCP got these guys drunk and put them on live TV. The bear minimum they should have had is time delay.

    March 29, 2012 at 12:44 am Reply
    1. 123

      how would TD stop ppl uploading douchebag

      March 29, 2012 at 1:44 am Reply
      1. lol

        you really have no idea how television works nowadays, do you?

        March 29, 2012 at 6:35 am Reply
    2. Arska

      I am pretty sure that Mittani is adult and he should act like one. No one forced him to got drunk and If he cant stand alcohol then he should not drink at all.

      March 29, 2012 at 7:21 am Reply
    3. whyjita

      yeah ccp made them drunk

      March 29, 2012 at 7:56 am Reply
  11. Stammerer

    hahaha

    way to over-react CCP. I dont like themittani one bit but this is entertaining.

    call him an asshole for saying what he said(as should be) and let there be no more drama.

    March 29, 2012 at 12:46 am Reply
  12. Lucian James

    Yo Mittans.. rough man..

    ..smoke a joint?

    March 29, 2012 at 12:47 am Reply
    1. shadoo

      his mommy will get mad at him if he does smoke

      March 30, 2012 at 1:29 am Reply
  13. Lucian James

    Drink Smoke Drink Drink!

    March 29, 2012 at 12:47 am Reply
  14. iskbot#1337

    TWO STEP 4 CHAIRMAN !!!
    WORMHOLES NEED MORE LOVE !!!

    this day is one of the best days for EVE and the community

    March 29, 2012 at 12:50 am Reply
    1. ham

      Ur mum needs more love.
      Mintrolio for CSM Chairman

      March 30, 2012 at 6:37 am Reply
  15. lasterax

    I think this was a very difficult decision for CCP, it was for me. While I personally feel his apology, personal and public, compensation and refusal of chair were sufficient it seems it wasn't for CCP. Mittens put them in a tough spot, it's difficult to argue it's not a EULA violation and you don't want to be caught publicly ignoring EULA violations. Very possible lawyers told them they had little choice.

    March 29, 2012 at 12:50 am Reply
    1. Headerman

      I thought the decision was pretty clear cut actually. He broke one of the golden rules of EVE. The punishment for that is straightforward. Him losing what he had on the CSM went as well. He should count himself lucky Iceland does not have criminal laws against what he said.

      March 29, 2012 at 12:57 am Reply
      1. Surtur

        Iceland has such laws. Disgusting venomous Goon players like "Lady Harlot" , that have been posting on the EvE forums, might "get it" if I were to press charges against Alex personally. It would be so easy for me, being an Icelander. You don't have to be the victim to do that and it has nothing to do with EULA.

        March 29, 2012 at 4:13 am Reply
    2. Derp

      If CCP wasn't trying to introduce Dust during this fanfest and if they hadn't had such a large body of press as a result, this probably wouldn't have happened. But the combination of the strategic partnership with Sony, the media coverage, and the topic of cyberbullying in the news, CCP had to show that it is a mature gaming company with proper deference to human decencies.

      In weighing Mittens' chairmanship and tens of thousands of angry players against the potential fallout from appearing too lax and potentially loosing hundreds of thousands of new Dust and Eve players and having their name dragged through the mud, CCP took the only reasonable route.

      March 29, 2012 at 1:09 am Reply
  16. powersv2
    March 29, 2012 at 12:53 am Reply
  17. anonymous

    CCP pretty much was forced to do this because of negative press. They just couldn't let The Mittani stay chairman of the CSM, that are supposed represent the EVE community as a whole. That would leave a dark shadow over all EVE players and CCP itself, for harbouring and nurturing this kind of players.

    I don't like Mittens, I don't like Goonswarm but you have to understand CCPs decision, they're just a profit oriented company like every other company out there.

    March 29, 2012 at 1:03 am Reply
  18. grunt

    hahahahahahaha i wonder what magic he will have to pull off to fix this, after all,,,, hes a fucking wizard right? lololol

    March 29, 2012 at 1:14 am Reply
  19. Flying spaceships

    Epic troll mega thread……….

    March 29, 2012 at 1:24 am Reply
  20. Fuckers

    Mother fuckers are going to regret this.

    March 29, 2012 at 1:28 am Reply
    1. Old Man

      ha ha ha ha ha…. he made 10,000 votes disappear… he must be some kind of…

      WIZARD!

      March 29, 2012 at 1:32 am Reply
  21. testie

    RE-VOTE time

    March 29, 2012 at 1:35 am Reply
  22. Qwerty4812

    this is because if CCP allows this to slide, it sets a bad precedent for CCP in the future to deal with these types of situations, its either ban Mittani, or face a shitstorm of controversy of previous EULA violations from other players

    March 29, 2012 at 1:39 am Reply
  23. IBeg

    Good Lord please let this be the last F^%$#king article on this F^%$#king topic!!!!

    March 29, 2012 at 2:05 am Reply
  24. DarthNefarius

    "and has forfeited his right to serve on CSM 7. "

    So he also cannot be on CSM 7 at all? but can on 8? Or just as Chairman?

    March 29, 2012 at 2:08 am Reply
    1. Anonymouse

      That's what I read too.

      March 29, 2012 at 2:42 am Reply
  25. Mittens2013

    Personally dont really agree with the decision to remove mittens entirely but Im also not surprised. All this goon rage about the EULA and wasting their votes is priceless however, we should do this every CSM.

    March 29, 2012 at 2:10 am Reply
  26. Mittani-lol

    TBH, I found more of the CCP employee comments made in the beer quiz more offensive.

    A drunk CSM asking people to kill a rival in game? utter bull that there are any issues, If anything its CCP's fault for streaming live to air without a screening delay. WHAT DO YOU EXCEPT CCP DRINK + SAUSSAGE FEST = shit that people will find offensive.

    Blown way out of context.

    March 29, 2012 at 2:21 am Reply
  27. Donavon Cold Heart

    I wonder if The Mittens is gonna have real life legal ramifications for this? Some mainstream articles are crying out "cyber-bullying" and "harassment".

    March 29, 2012 at 2:37 am Reply
    1. rasz

      I sure hope so

      March 29, 2012 at 3:01 am Reply
    2. Gumpin

      Doubt it. If The Wis didn't make a complaint and if he accepted ANYTHING from mittens. Its dead there.

      March 29, 2012 at 3:24 am Reply
  28. rasz

    wait, wasnt Riverini something like 1 place away from being Alternate? 😮

    March 29, 2012 at 3:07 am Reply
  29. rasz

    BTW has anyone informed FBI yet? Bonus points for FauxNews.

    March 29, 2012 at 3:42 am Reply
  30. I'm a hater

    Goons have had their voice heard over everyone else for a long time. For a group who likes to make fun of and grief everyone who plays eve, goons sure do cry and whine a lot when they don't get their way.

    I find it hilarious that some random miner trolled your whole coalition into wasting 10,000 votes. The Wis just pulled off the biggest troll/grief in Eve history at the expense of the goons. BTW good luck with the whole "jita will burn" thing, that doesn't sound like it could backfire 0.o

    March 29, 2012 at 4:14 am Reply
    1. goon

      Ice interdiction didnt work either

      March 29, 2012 at 4:47 am Reply
      1. Anonymouse

        Actually, it just slowed down the spice for awhile…. and made a whole bunch of your enemies fairly wealthy…

        March 29, 2012 at 6:34 am Reply
  31. Lucian James

    How many suicide bullyings does it take to get you kicked out of CSM?
    Just one.. just one…

    March 29, 2012 at 4:30 am Reply
  32. ..M..

    WhaaaWhaaa our internet space votes dont matter cuz our chosen one is a tard! Entitlement is so beautiful when it fails…

    March 29, 2012 at 7:17 am Reply
  33. PROPLLOVER

    Being dropped from the CSM was Inevitable and was the right thing to do by CCP/EvE and the player community.
    30d Ban? I am still unsure about this one, maybe 14d ban would have been appropriate but im sure CCP know what they are doing.

    But gotta say….. Massive shout out to DNSBLACK for keeping those Jager's flowing, nice one bro..lmao

    March 29, 2012 at 8:31 am Reply
    1. PL Winner

      its spelled EVE

      and the banning is bullshit.

      March 29, 2012 at 8:44 am Reply
      1. PROPLLOVER

        No shit brainiac!

        March 29, 2012 at 9:16 am Reply
      2. shadoo

        and the banning is bullshit. true, it shouldve been a perma ban

        please permaban him ccp

        March 30, 2012 at 1:19 am Reply
  34. Buggrit

    CCP probably had to do it. But this cut the feet out of the CSM, they'll be down on their knees from now on.

    March 29, 2012 at 8:48 am Reply
  35. A Voice of Reason

    First off I have to say that I thought Mittens was quite a good member of CSM 6 and did a good job. But seriously guys, please stop with all of the ridiculous nonsense regarding lost votes etc.

    10K accounts voted for Mittens. Someone who is well known for being a bit of a d1ck sometimes. That's fine. If the 10K vote that way then great! No problems right?

    Well, the d1ck acted like an even bigger d1ck. Full of bravado and on an ego trip (seriously, watch the vid, it's not good in any way). Those who voted for him have to accept that they voted for that person and should've known about him and his ego. It's not like he kept it a secret!

    Now, if d1ck chooses to act like an even bigger d1ck and gets himself into trouble, then you guys also have to accept the possibility of a waisted vote. You knew he had the potential to be a big d1ck and sure enough, he was.

    2 lessons here:
    a) If you vote for a d1ck, don't be surprised when the d1ck behaves like a d1ck and gets himself into trouble.
    b) Goons clearly like d1cks.

    March 29, 2012 at 9:34 am Reply
  36. The Mittani criminal

    Ok I find the 1 month ban acceptable.
    We will not continue to destroy CCP's business.

    ALL of the future employers of Alexander will still be informed though.

    March 29, 2012 at 9:45 am Reply
    1. The Mittani criminal

      Sorry, I meant to say the 1 month ban unacceptable.
      Please turn it into a permanent ban.

      March 30, 2012 at 1:17 am Reply
  37. AllGoonzAreFags

    Goonz can't take their ale… lightweights.

    March 29, 2012 at 9:45 am Reply
  38. azran zala

    This is bullshit.

    March 29, 2012 at 10:18 am Reply
    1. azran zala

      CCP's reaction I mean, not the article.

      March 29, 2012 at 10:19 am Reply
  39. revote now

    What you pubbies fail to realize is instead of getting new cool shit in EVE … we are now going to get something stupid like panty dropping !!… on that note riverini stop being butt hurt because you didn't make csm! your a waste!

    March 29, 2012 at 2:52 pm Reply
  40. Null Dweller

    Goon tears are absolutely delicious. Not so fun when the shoe is on the other foot is it!

    March 29, 2012 at 4:08 pm Reply
  41. LaMuerte88mateantifa

    Well , the last 15 minutes of the fanfest video reminds me of a rockband that performs for the first time. They just wanna go on playing more songs , and more songs , and more songs , not even noticing they are making the people flee.

    Then the naming incident. Lol @ The Mittani. It's been a while since I saw something so dumb. Really , what the fuck? The folly! Ah well ,cheer up , here's a song for comfort :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK62tfoCmuQ

    March 29, 2012 at 7:47 pm Reply
  42. ZedoTelhado

    Oh he will return…
    Hi guess he will return and be elected again as Chairman
    The question his will he have the balls to assume hes not giving a shit to his fellow goons
    I mean the spotlights are warm and ego feeds so nicely he Gianturco needs to be there
    He's not concerned about game mechanics and shit. Look at his past, all his articles, his decisions.

    March 30, 2012 at 1:39 am Reply
  43. Some awesome guy!

    Mittani said this"If you want him to kill himself his name is yadda yadda yadda" people ALL the time say shit like that be it in game or of game, people say it on teamspeak people say it on forums they tell you to go gas yourself which you cant do in eve so it must be in real life, they tell you to die in a fire, you cant do that in eve (apart from explosions) so they must mean suicide into a fire. its ALL the same. the only difference in this case was that the Mittani did it on a stream which all the people who play on their own in their own 1 man corporation might have been watching, and the 20 that did watch are vocal little carebears that probly dont even know who goonswarm is until they decide to leave their 1 man corporation.

    March 30, 2012 at 3:09 am Reply
    1. wow

      Yeah tbh I am not a goon or mittani fan, but I watched the video and I think the whole ordeal was blown out of proportion. That dude's story about suicide and a divorce is most likely B.S. When I play eve I automatically assume just about everything said is total bull.

      March 30, 2012 at 3:45 am Reply
  44. die goons die

    i just hate goons lolol so many noobs in so many drakes deserve everything they get lmao 😉

    March 30, 2012 at 12:03 pm Reply
  45. Fraudulent voter

    Too bad he did not threaten the other dude but at most incited others to do so – which is not in the EULA nor TOS. It was CCP's unilateral, undiscussed decision to disregard 1/6th of all the votes.

    March 29, 2012 at 1:26 am Reply
  46. lasterax

    "The character was not specifically named in the slide (which is why it passed the review stage), but in the subsequent Q&A session following the presentation, the panelist spontaneously mentioned and then spelled out the name of the character (important to note not the player) in response to a question, suggesting “if you want to make the guy go kill himself, his name is [[REDACTED]], it’s [[NAME SPELLED OUT]]… He has his own corp. Find him.”

    Such behavior crosses the line of acceptable player conduct and breaks the Terms of Service. CCP finds this behavior morally reprehensible.

    To be absolutely clear: directly calling for people to pressure someone into suicide, no matter the situation, is not acceptable in an official CCP forum."

    March 29, 2012 at 1:50 am Reply
  47. My bad

    Almost like he called someone Primary in a fleet fight

    March 29, 2012 at 3:45 am Reply
  48. He who was there

    The Terms of Service say absolutely nothing about suggesting others to do a potentially bannable or even illegal thing. Not even number 1. ToS rule nr 1 would have applied if he had threatened or harassed directly and himself, but he didn't. He suggested others do. That is _not_ covered under the ToS.

    Of course CCP can just decide that enough is enough. That's fair, they can do that. But then they should go out and say that they decided to trash 10000 votes.

    March 29, 2012 at 11:46 am Reply
  49. DRF is fun

    Which wount have mattered. The remark about "make him kills himself" is what made a comment about griefing, into a EUAL violation."

    If he would have said, "gank him untill he uninstalls" would have been ok.

    March 29, 2012 at 10:25 am Reply

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