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Easley Thames: C-J Falls – 2000+ Pilots Involved as Multiple Coalitions Clash

Tonight the C-J station came out of its final reinforcement timer. The battle in this system was not only enjoyable by all accounts, but also provides clues about the future shape of the North-Eastern sovereignty map.

By the time of this battle, RA had already moved most of their assets out to low-sec, as part of their announced plan of relocating to Delve.

Furthermore, neither XxDeathXX nor RA had an operation planned to defend the system. If that were the end of the story, things would have been pretty boring tonight.

However, aware of a developing PL / NCdot plan to upset AAA and Solar’s night of conquest, AAA called out for a full “red pen” CTA.

Given the numbers arrayed against them, even the mighty Tech Cartel alliances would have thought-twice about engaging AAA tonight, but this time they ended up gaining critical support from an unlikely source.

Whether it was a revival of the “bro pact,” or merely an attempt to mount a formidable defense in the name of “good fights,” PL and NCdot were able to get the support of the same people who helped murder their super-carriers last week.

Source: kugutsumen.com

That’s right. This time Goons + Test + other CFC alliances fought on PL and NCdot’s side.

Some are calling this a nostalgic return to the days of the “bro-pact” between Goonswarm and PL. While the leaders of both alliances do chat regularly, I think this can be explained in other terms:

– PL and TEST have already been in cooperation for quite some time as fellow “Honey Badgers.” Many in TEST look-up to PL and enjoy working with them.

– Goon leaders – including The Mittani – have a long history of cooperation with Red Alliance and XxDeathxX. Red Alliance was a part of the Red Swarm Federation, along with Goons and TCF. Among other notable pro-goon actions, XxDeathxX played a major role in the successful “all-in” offensive on Delve in 2009 under the leadership of Darius Johnson by attempting to heroically guard the Eastern flank against Atlas & AAA.

-Third, and most importantly, this was the only way a real fight could go down in the system tonight, and everyone agrees that fighting 1000 people is far more fun than not fighting anyone on a Tuesday night.

Evoke and some other pro-PL groups also made a modest showing, but the major balancing force against the A-Team was clearly the CFC tonight.

Some expected to see Raiden on the field, but cooperating with Goons would probably have been too much for them to stomach.

The following list is highly abridged, since I don’t want this image to be any longer, but the total numbers are roughly correct.

The Cluster-Fuck Coalition (CFC) was hit very hard on their jump-in to the system by Nulli Secunda, Occupational Hazard, The Initiative, and SOLAR. These alliances demolished the CFC drake fleet.

A large CFC bomber gang was able to skip past the gate-camp and get involved with the main-battle on the station, but their presence was a double-edged sword, since bombing runs were actually a hindrance to the “Slow Cat” sentry-drone doctrine being used by PL tonight.

Needless to say, the carnage was immediate, but with Time Dilation maxed out (all the way to 10% with 1900 in local) things took a while to resolve themselves.

To elaborate on the strategy used by PL and NCdot, Shadoo brought in a fleet of approximately 140 carriers filled entirely with sentry drones. Each carrier can hold hundreds at a time, so losing a few waves to bombing or anti-support fire is not an immediate ‘game-over’ situation.

PL’s plan was to fight on station so that they could de-aggro and dock if the fight got to messy.

The coordinated sentry fire was theorized to be a good counter to just about anything engaging at ranges up to 100km. This seems to have proven true, given that they successfully brought down several after-burner Tengus at long range.

The fighting was already well under-way when I logged into C-J with my dictor. I had flown over and logged-out the night before in anticipation of this brawl, and luckily I arrived in time to participate in the bulk of the fighting on the station.

Sentries were fairly effective in popping -A- fleet ships with coordinated sentry fire, but bombs and support-ships killed hundreds of these t2 drones.

It was an expensive engagement for everyone, especially since PL and NCdot were stripped of literally every support ship in short order.

The destruction of all hostile support allowed AAA and Solar (among others) to drop super-carriers on the station with relative impunity.

PL may have been able to match or exceed the A-Team’s super-cap numbers, but tactically it would have been a colossal blunder without support.

NCdot and PL were forced to dock when the -A- and Solar supers cyno’d in.

To the credit of PL and NCdot, they were fast about calling for their carriers to pull in drones and de-aggro, so only one carrier was killed by supers.

Pictured Here: PL’s "Slow Cat" Carrier Setup

I feel compelled to mention that this was one of the best showings from -A- in a long time, with 400 alliance members involved, including a strong super-cap showing.

The alliance had labeled this operation as extremely high-priority, so it is doubtful that AAA Russians and U.S. players will be together on the same field like this very often, but it was nice to see what we’re capable of when we really want something.

It shows that -A- has a great deal of dormant potential that can be dialed-up on occasion, especially when merging its two major timezone groups into a single operation.

In particular, the missile spam from AAA’s Tengus was immense. Including all friendlies, there were over 300 Tengus on the field.

Back when T3 cruisers were introduced, members of my corp joked about a day when an alliance could field a full fleet of these pimp-mobiles. It’s crazy to see those musings actually turn out to be descriptive of reality in 2012.

With no firewall to block the incoming waves of heavy missiles, even heavily-tanked (and low-signature) Proteus and Legion hulls were popped without difficulty.

As soon as PL and NCdot docked up their carriers in C-J, the station was flipped by AAA supers, and promptly handed over to Solar Fleet control.

This may hint at the future division of the North-Eastern regions. Even if most of Insmother is retained by AAA, I think flipping C-J sends a signal that -A- does not care about expanding much further North.

More importantly, this battle marks the culmination of the AAA – RA war. The end result is clear: RA has lost, and AAA has won.

There will be plenty of structures to grind, but the most action we can hope for will be fights with opportunistic groups like PL. RA has already fled this hemisphere, and XxDeathXx seems to be increasingly inactive.

I believe that very soon Solar will be able to declare a similar victory over XxDeathXx, thereby ending the DRF Civil War, but Eve is an unpredictable place. I will not jump the gun until I see who XxDeathXx can bat-phone to save them from Solar and AAA.

Two major powers have apparently lost the will to fight, and will have to regroup elsewhere, while two others have earned new territory after a long-fought campaign. This is what 0.0 life in Eve is all about.

Pictured above is the aftermath of the fight on the C-J station.

For those who do not know, C-J is the long-treasured crown of Red Alliance’s once-vast empire.

This system holds the same nostalgia for RA members as NOL once held for BoB, and this is only the third time it has ever fallen.

My corp has now been present for all 3 conquests of C-J in this historic system’s long history.

In many ways, the real story here is the decline of the DRF as a coalition.

Sometimes small conflicts can snowball into absolute catastrophes. Such was the case when XxDeathxX pissed off Solar, by taking the side of a renter over their most powerful ally, in what began as a minor standings dispute.

With White Noise existing in name only, RA evacuating to Delve, XxDeathXx flailing with no clear plan for the future, and WTF left adrift with no master to guide it – the future indeed looks bleak for this formerly fearsome group.

I have mentioned it before on this blog, but the butterfly effect – as depicted by CCP’s marketing department – is a real phenomenon in this game. Even small decisions can have immense consequences, and I would bet my favorite hurricane that XxDeathXx’s leadership now regret the way they treated Solar.

The DRF civil war was likely preventable, and it is XxDeathxX’s leadership that is to blame for the coming Drone Region diaspora.

One last topic seems germane to this discussion, and I feel this post would be incomplete without it. That topic is the role of mercenaries in 0.0 sovereignty contests.

Mercenaries are a great asset. From the well-chronicled adventures of Seleene’s Mercenary Coalition, to the current influence of Pandemic Legion, mercs can clearly tip the balance in 0.0 – sometimes with frightening effectiveness.

However, when you rely on mercs too much it can lead to atrophy within your coalition. You need to flex your own muscles as an alliance on a regular basis, otherwise they will eventually turn to fat.

I believe RA, XIX, and many others who benefited from their presence in the Drone Regions have put too much confidence in their hired help.

Mercs can be a great tool in a variety of situations, but the evidence available suggests that they make bad long-term guardians of sovereignty.

– Easley Thames

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100 Comments

  1. 0.0 pilot

    Great article :)

    March 7, 2012 at 5:44 pm Reply
    1. BodyArt

      I can't help but think back to a recent, fairly active post here about taking space in Oasa. Sometimes the best thing to do is to let a corrupt, rotten organization fail. I couldn't help but smile.

      March 10, 2012 at 10:22 pm Reply
  2. A great story well told but I think it needs more explosions.

    Also, I would love to know how red pen applies to a CTA. I know what a red pen signifies but I am not able to make the connection for some reason.

    March 7, 2012 at 5:48 pm Reply
    1. U Killed Killer B!

      Because the CTA mail had a section in it that was highlighted in "red ink". At least that is what came to mind right off the bat, when I saw the reference.

      March 8, 2012 at 8:07 am Reply
  3. Yet another alt

    Heres some rough intel that should help with the amusing theories about the Goon-PL bropact:

    the_mittani: broadcast all-all In our darkest hour, only one alliance reached out to us amidst the hate and persecution of the opening days of the Great War. Where every wretched honorpubbie pointed fingers and demanded that we be purged from the game ~for the good of EVE~, Red Alliance – at the time Death, Nync, and Mactep – offered us succor. They gave us a place in Insmother, making C-J6 the second sacred goon homeland after S-U8A4.
    History matters. Death and the new RA have their backs against the wall facing the southern Russian bloc, and while we don't normally get involved in this war except to vulture the odd supercap kill, C-J6, capital of Insmother, is holy ground – so holy that we will be temp-blueing PL and their allies to help ensure that C-J does not fall. We have helped defend C-J6 many times over the years, and tonight is no different. Tonight C-J6 is in its final… etc

    March 7, 2012 at 5:52 pm Reply
    1. Seeing_Red

      Even tho my last 6 years in eve i really never been w/ or against goons but there rep follows them , w / there Egotist big headed Leader.

      That comment gave me a little more respect for the goons remembers who had there backs.
      I salute you for that.

      March 7, 2012 at 7:48 pm Reply
      1. Cynic

        Love him or hate him (I hate him), you can't help but respect Mittens.

        March 7, 2012 at 8:48 pm Reply
    2. Somedude

      but C-J fell so hmmmmmm that fleets mission went badly lol

      March 7, 2012 at 8:46 pm Reply
    3. derp

      is the Mittani retarded? RA isnt what RA was in the past, if anything I would of thought goons would of helped MACTEP considering Death doesnt really play a lot, and nync is in PL. The fact that they "helped" new RA which they have no relations with is just wierd.

      March 8, 2012 at 5:35 am Reply
  4. wtf

    one of the best article I've read here :)

    March 7, 2012 at 5:54 pm Reply
  5. -A- funpilot

    Do you guys remember discussion in russian redia about RA/xXDEATHXx/AAA ???
    How RA told that they will eraze AAA from 0,0 map? Yesterday fight was a perfect answer for it…

    March 7, 2012 at 6:02 pm Reply
    1. The Observer

      See? Dead alliances can still apparently kill you. lol

      ZOMBIE -A-, BEST -A-

      March 7, 2012 at 11:00 pm Reply
  6. correction

    init/im are on red team

    March 7, 2012 at 6:20 pm Reply
    1. Rascal

      Init/IM were on neither team really, cause alot of losses on both

      March 7, 2012 at 6:50 pm Reply
      1. The Observer

        That was mainly the bombing runs. They bombed EVERYTHING. Small ships, drones, and light cruisers died on both sides in large quantities because of them.

        March 7, 2012 at 10:45 pm Reply
        1. Rascal

          They only had bombers there.

          March 8, 2012 at 10:55 am Reply
    2. PapaTaru

      confirm

      March 8, 2012 at 9:41 pm Reply
  7. i was there

    How come 0ccupational Hazzard is not mentioned in the alliance list?

    March 7, 2012 at 6:20 pm Reply
    1. ghas

      Because they are raging homosexuals

      March 7, 2012 at 6:28 pm Reply
      1. Static

        looks like someone lost alot of ships..

        March 8, 2012 at 4:46 pm Reply
    2. learn to read..

      "The Cluster-Fuck Coalition (CFC) was hit very hard on their jump-in to the system by Nulli Secunda, Occupational Hazard, The Initiative, and SOLAR. These alliances demolished the CFC drake fleet."

      March 7, 2012 at 6:56 pm Reply
      1. Static

        OH FTW

        March 8, 2012 at 4:47 pm Reply
    3. Lorren Canada

      No one gives a flying fuck about OH

      March 7, 2012 at 8:29 pm Reply
      1. lawl

        agreed

        March 8, 2012 at 5:02 am Reply
    4. gerard

      Because OH are irrelevant nobodies.

      March 8, 2012 at 2:38 pm Reply
  8. CBJL

    Imperial Legion was on the same side as Solar you numbnuts.

    March 7, 2012 at 6:21 pm Reply
    1. A Dude

      Also insignificant

      March 7, 2012 at 7:26 pm Reply
    2. all 5 pilots?

      March 7, 2012 at 7:29 pm Reply
      1. solar ally

        there were more imps than that the sides thing sucks there were alot more imps on field

        March 8, 2012 at 3:11 am Reply
  9. Dopeshow

    Good job SOLAR! Much respect!

    -Br1ck

    March 7, 2012 at 6:23 pm Reply
  10. Nulli_Grunt

    Welcome to Thunder Delve RA.

    March 7, 2012 at 6:25 pm Reply
    1. The Observer

      The Thunderdome, where they will fight for their very existence. Not many go to Delve and come out alive. -MM- and BRICK are only the most recent victims to the rules: TWO MEN ENTER, NO ONE LEAVES!

      March 7, 2012 at 10:48 pm Reply
      1. S2N Private

        Delve is cursed! Run RA run!

        P.S. Suck me Riverrini!

        March 8, 2012 at 4:21 pm Reply
  11. Rascal

    Its funny though, this is sort of similar as what Elise wrote, but with the overtone of -A- propaganda instead of PL.

    Why would you hate on either?

    And next question is:

    When does the same happen to the CFC? 😀

    March 7, 2012 at 6:26 pm Reply
    1. JohnDrees

      Agreed, CFC is not even close to as cool as PL or -A-, they are just a giant group of people.

      March 7, 2012 at 8:56 pm Reply
    2. Lorren Canada

      Probably not for a long time – CFC is too strong, too well lead and too multilateral to fall anytime soon.

      March 7, 2012 at 9:31 pm Reply
      1. The Observer

        The same was said with Rome. Even giants fall when they get old.

        March 7, 2012 at 10:49 pm Reply
        1. iusedtotakearrows

          Technically, the political entity we know as Rome lasted over 2000 years before it was finally destroyed by the seljuk turks. If you count from the founding of the republic until the siege of Constantinople. Regardles, rome was around for a rather long time.

          It amazes me how easy people use the analogy of even the mighty rome falling.

          But now ontopic: the Goons seem to be somewhat different from your average new eden powerhouse. Constant influx of new recruits, eager to flood local with spam, and a rather well organised way of dealing with 'pets', that seem to enjoy a much more ally-like status in the coalition than is traditional with other powerhouses. I doubt that the CFC will grow old any time soon… but time will tell

          March 8, 2012 at 11:56 am Reply
  12. Dick Cheezburger

    Think you meant to say South-eastern in the whole first part of the article.

    March 7, 2012 at 6:37 pm Reply
  13. newsoul

    Winter is over ?

    March 7, 2012 at 6:46 pm Reply
    1. Trololol

      Winter is cumming.

      Turns out she's a stripper in Winterfell. We just misunderstood.

      March 7, 2012 at 7:15 pm Reply
  14. newsoul

    Tags:
    -A-, AAA, Against ALL Authorities, C-J6MT, COL, Easley Thames, Elise Randolph, Honey Badger, Insmother, Mercenary Coalition, NCDOT, Nulli Secunda, Pandemic Legion, RA, Red Alliance, Red Overlord, Red vs Blue, Reinforcement, Russia, Solar Fleet, Super-Carrier, Time Dilation

    March 7, 2012 at 6:51 pm Reply
  15. Kratisto

    Can -A- g0 after the CFC now? seriously.

    March 7, 2012 at 7:11 pm Reply
    1. A Dude

      Why?

      March 7, 2012 at 7:26 pm Reply
    2. Corteztk

      Ummmmmmm kinda have one more botting empire to go SOD/LOD buy up a crapload of tritanium people the price is about to go up :).

      March 7, 2012 at 7:56 pm Reply
      1. Jarlexly

        Dont worry mate , renters will flip to solar faster then you know it, so prices will not go insane, be cool :) ( its the nature of symbions, works with whom ever feeding them)

        March 8, 2012 at 5:23 am Reply
      2. Whitebirch

        RA wasn't as botting Empire as AAA/ROL/Solar are. it is so easy to see.

        March 8, 2012 at 9:34 am Reply
        1. Corteztk

          Really whitebirch? Check our killboards and see who bots. Its not hard to tell.

          March 8, 2012 at 2:33 pm Reply
        2. Jarlexly

          İ want what is he smoking :)

          March 8, 2012 at 5:41 pm Reply
    3. Lorren Canada

      Yeah that's gonna work out really well

      March 7, 2012 at 9:31 pm Reply
    4. The Observer

      bad idea is bad

      March 7, 2012 at 10:49 pm Reply
  16. Thunderdome!!

    Applause for an all-around good article.

    Though I think "RA is going to Delve to commit suicide" is more accurate than "evacing to Delve". The "probro" coalition of Nulli, Vcruz, Huns, and now Nem3sis has proven its subcapital dominance over RA on numerous occasions. If I recall, MM & Brick went to Delve believing they could take new space… and they failed miserably. Now that the SoCo has largely solidified, RA's move right into the heart of their territory is just dumb. Given the availability of large swathes of unprotected territory elsewhere in 0.0, why go to Delve I wonder?

    March 7, 2012 at 7:12 pm Reply
    1. TESTIE

      Because Delve is where alliances go to die. Taking sov in Delve just means you're preparing the coffin.

      With RA now in Delve and actively taking sov, it's high time for some sweet three way action.

      Obligatory "I have a spy in your alliance." No really, I do.

      March 7, 2012 at 8:52 pm Reply
    2. The Observer

      To be honest? I don't see why they're leaving in the first place. They could have just stood their ground and fallen back on the sov space a bit, much like what -A- and SOLAR did. They may lose a region or two (or three), but having less space is better defensively.

      March 7, 2012 at 10:52 pm Reply
      1. sup

        If they had stood their ground they would have lost most of their assets and members. If the southerners knew there was going to be a fight for the CTA there would be 256 ppl in fleet within minutes. If no fight expected the fleet wouldn't be full

        March 8, 2012 at 12:56 pm Reply
  17. An imp

    The red v blue map is partially wrong. Imperial legi0n was on solars side. Great to be allies with you solar. xdeath were coming prepare for butthyrt

    March 7, 2012 at 7:15 pm Reply
    1. An imp

      Butthurt f u iPhone spellcheck

      March 7, 2012 at 7:16 pm Reply
  18. adopt

    Delve is where old alliances go to die… Good-bye Red Alliance… We will miss you.

    March 7, 2012 at 7:21 pm Reply
    1. BodyArt

      I will miss RA. When XIX/XWX goes.. not so much.

      March 10, 2012 at 10:24 pm Reply
  19. "The Cluster-Fuck Coalition (CFC) was hit very hard on their jump-in to the system by Nulli Secunda, Occupational Hazard, The Initiative, and SOLAR. These alliances demolished the CFC drake fleet." We only lost about 30 people at the gate compared to murdering scores of Maelstroms, Drakes, Tengus and Zealotts. Get your shit straight.

    March 7, 2012 at 7:28 pm Reply
    1. ghas

      You seem confused

      March 7, 2012 at 7:30 pm Reply
    2. The Observer

      They actualy were hit hard on the gate. Successful bombing runs and the Nag fleet did give CFC a lot of trouble. Also, 30 people was a QUARTER of your fleet. Not insignificant.

      March 7, 2012 at 10:54 pm Reply
  20. Some Guy

    In further news xDeath makes their situation worse, SBUs E-BY0S (IRC's capital) violting a NIP set up by PL. IRC pissed.

    March 7, 2012 at 7:37 pm Reply
    1. UnT0uChaBl3S lol

      looks like maybe PL's word can not be trusted maybe or is x death doing this without their knowledge ?
      i mean did they not have to pay PL to keep irc away as it was ?? maybe x death has a bunch of isk to pay for PL to protect them again .. but will people be able to trust PL if x death keeps breaking agreements PL makes on their behalf to save little old xdeath ??

      March 8, 2012 at 5:40 pm Reply
  21. Whitebirch

    New space for botting is given. Greate job AAA and Solar!!!

    March 7, 2012 at 7:46 pm Reply
  22. CFC Pilot

    How many articles are going to be posted about this same fight?

    March 7, 2012 at 7:47 pm Reply
    1. derp that herp

      U MAD BRO?

      March 7, 2012 at 8:36 pm Reply
    2. The Observer

      It was probably THE most epic fight of this year so far, the other being the rape that the PL supers got a week or so ago. Hopefully, a fight even more epic comes around. The year is still young!

      also, u mad bro? cuz u sound mad.

      March 7, 2012 at 10:56 pm Reply
      1. CFC Pilot

        One long article that gets constantly updated would be better. I dont mind all the intel and reading, but its all in different place.

        Im not mad. cause I wasnt there

        March 8, 2012 at 3:45 pm Reply
  23. LOL @ Propaganda

    CFC was laughing on comms towards the end. We were laughing that EN24 was reporting we were all dead, when in fact, there were several fleets still alive and eventually just came back home. Yes, after taking heavy losses. But Riverini has a special hatred for the CFC and if he kills 1 of them, he claims to kill 100! LOL

    March 7, 2012 at 7:50 pm Reply
    1. LOL @ Propaganda

      He is just mad we podded him this past weekend when we welped their fleet in about 30 seconds…

      March 7, 2012 at 7:52 pm Reply
    2. Somedude

      CFC kissing PL and NC. to keep them happy maybe?

      March 7, 2012 at 8:43 pm Reply
      1. Powers
        March 8, 2012 at 11:54 am Reply
  24. iusedtotakearrows

    Din't -A- and RA split up initiative sov between the two of them? Why do they take sides in this conflict, instead of preying on the leftovers…

    btw, what proper MERC group fights for free….

    March 7, 2012 at 7:51 pm Reply
    1. A Dude

      All of that INIT sov was -A- sov, and -A- has a long long memory.

      March 7, 2012 at 9:55 pm Reply
    2. The Observer

      Ok, it went like this. INIT took -A- sov because of the involvement in the 2nd Great War, then -A- took it all back mid 2010. INIT and -A- still have a hard on for each other's destruction.

      March 7, 2012 at 10:59 pm Reply
      1. A Dude

        I think both -A- and INIT have come to agree that the former DRF and RA are mainly to blame for their split. They were good allies b4, also DRF did not back INIT when -A- came calling, RA reset INIT and took Immensea instead of helping so also another reason to hate RA mutually.

        March 8, 2012 at 3:24 pm Reply
  25. ... Yup.

    "After a while, as predicted, SOLAR is much diminished."

    March 7, 2012 at 8:11 pm Reply
    1. The Observer

      LOL

      March 7, 2012 at 10:59 pm Reply
  26. Zeroniss

    Excellent BR Easley. Only thing that could have made it better would have been a few more memepics to accompany that Mass Effect one!

    March 7, 2012 at 8:33 pm Reply
  27. Anonymouse

    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=5361 you missed out the 117 Cascade Imminent

    March 7, 2012 at 8:50 pm Reply
    1. derp

      who got raped by OH again?

      March 8, 2012 at 5:42 am Reply
  28. The Observer

    Pretty much. If your corp/alliance doesn't show majority support, then either they are kicked out or stripped of all their assets. You don't show up, you get the red ink.

    March 7, 2012 at 10:43 pm Reply
  29. The14th

    Awesome article, you did a great job wrapping up the battle and what made it truly historic. The only thing that is missing now (for me anyways) is a grand total of isk burned in the fight. I'd love to see how many billions went down the drain in this titanic brawl (and the KBs never seem to have all the info).

    March 7, 2012 at 11:23 pm Reply
  30. Oh Snap!

    I was there and I have to say, I was a bit underwhelmed.

    Yes, with all the blue-settings-crazyness, 2000 pilots in system and hundreds of SCs on standby there was the potential for a massive onslaught.
    Yet nobody from the north – not Goons, PL or NCdot – fully committed to the fight (Raiden. didn't even show up).
    The system simply had no value to any one of them. Hence the lack of numbers in subcaps and -A-'s inevitable yet a bit expensive victory.

    I think this whole thing is only of interest with possible future alliances and the political landscape in mind.

    March 8, 2012 at 12:25 am Reply
    1. -A- guy

      kinda feel the same way tbh

      March 8, 2012 at 1:27 am Reply
    2. Stammerer

      agreed

      March 8, 2012 at 2:09 am Reply
    3. -A- Pilot

      The system had value to RA, at least symbolically, anyway. C-J6 is the same as Stalingrad or Moscow was…part of the heartland, and "unconquerable". In a way, it's reputation makes it more valuable to -A-/Solar than anything else

      March 8, 2012 at 6:12 am Reply
    4. Spaceships Pilot

      "I was there and I have to say, I was a bit underwhelmed."
      – Sucks to be you, perhaps do some more ratting – that might be exciting.

      Yes, with all the blue-settings-crazyness, 2000 pilots in system and hundreds of SCs on standby there was the potential for a massive onslaught.
      – It was still slaughterfest, don't need SC's to do that,

      Yet nobody from the north – not Goons, PL or NCdot – fully committed to the fight (Raiden. didn't even show up).
      – Was there a reason to? + Raiden. is at full war with Goons, temp-blue was just a step too far for now.

      The system simply had no value to any one of them. Hence the lack of numbers in subcaps and -A-'s inevitable yet a bit expensive victory.
      – the value was to get a good fight, and all parties commited to the goodfights even A/Solar refrained from mass dropping all SC's they had.

      I think this whole thing is only of interest with possible future alliances and the political landscape in mind.
      – this fight is one of the fights to be remembered for 2012.

      March 8, 2012 at 9:59 am Reply
    5. gerard

      Look at the ingame map dopehead.

      Nobody from the north committed supers because it's about 7 midpoints from fountain and dek to get to C-J in the first place. Hell the 170 TEST dudes in drakes that showed up to the fight had to go 46 jumps across eve to get there. Goonswarm Pilots had to go around 35 jumps.

      March 8, 2012 at 2:45 pm Reply
  31. Anon

    Imperial Legion has been listed on the wrong side

    March 8, 2012 at 2:01 am Reply
  32. gf for all

    good right up nice to see a balanced report i was on the -a- side but spent most of the night in a pos waiting for supers to be deployed system peaked at 2000 at one point and tidi was at max most of the fight, was a good fight and nice to see that the node was stable

    March 8, 2012 at 8:25 am Reply
  33. Best Thing To Happen

    If recent years tell us anything it is that RA is nothing like what they were 4+ yrs ago, in fact some might even say they are a totally different monster that is just borrowing the old name.
    There are still alliances & corps that are willing to follow RA to Delve & some from what I am being told are seriously trying to tell their membership that taking what they want in Delve is going to be really easy! (As easy as taking on -A- & Solar I wonder)
    Anyhow it is going to be really funny to watch these fucktards fall apart & just how long it will take their most stupid of members towake up to themselves

    March 8, 2012 at 9:46 am Reply
    1. s bloc wtf

      It's as easy as blueing AAA and getting handed cascade space.

      March 12, 2012 at 2:33 pm Reply
  34. Spaceships Pilot

    We didn't lose the carrier to aggro – poor fellow got desynced. But still, we raped more then 35b worth of tengu's. Was an epic conclusion to a long campaign. Congrats to A, see you in 6 months. Remember GE-8JV!

    March 8, 2012 at 9:54 am Reply
    1. Af1can

      -A-/Solar & Co remember don't sell your big toys top your nemesis.

      And Nulli who are Gem (vacation) bring a ton of dudes (impressive and reactive fleets), so RA don't get to comfy in Delve.

      lolz

      March 8, 2012 at 10:32 am Reply
    2. Jarlexly

      Yes we remember it, you were sitting all day titans and we were roaming at everywhere, you shit bored on shhoting poses. As most of your members yelling about " what the f-uck we are doing at here".

      And yes we remember when you lost 8 supers to us 2 weeks ago. Raping your over confident asses is a memorible thing that i wont forget PL. Allways a pleasure :)

      March 8, 2012 at 5:57 pm Reply
  35. Blacc Yeshua
    March 8, 2012 at 5:05 pm Reply
  36. UnT0uChaBl3S lol

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12… does not look like IRC stayed home

    March 8, 2012 at 5:36 pm Reply
  37. PL EAT SHIT

    I fucking hope that AAA command grow some balls ( yes you russian fuktards) and rather than go for CFC/RA. KILL PANDEMIC LEGION ONCE AND FOR ALL.

    March 9, 2012 at 2:57 pm Reply

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