C-J6MT is a station system in Insmother, deep in Red Alliance space.  If you haven’t been paying attention to the south, Against All Authorities have pushed back against RA space.  HARD.  The systems and stations they control have doubled in the past two weeks, while SOLAR was being pummeled in the East.  Needless to say, RA command noticed this.  With SOLAR reeling, RA was able to convince PL to come south and help stem the bleeding of systems to A-Team. C-J6 had been reinforced over this past weekend and A-Team were coming back to finish the job when suddenly… titans.  45 PL/NC titans were fielded against the roughly 125 -A- Tengus and the additional 100-odd support ships.  PL, once again, was on -A- comms, listening to the fleet forming up and heading toward the waiting trap.  The A-Team fleet jumped, and the fighting went from a solid fleet fight to a brutal massacre in short order.

The first fight saw the loss of almost every single Tengu A-Team was fielding.  Roughly 60 billion isk of ships.  RA/PL/NCdot and the rest clocked in with about 10 billion isk lost.

Battle Report Doc

Despite the heavy losses during the attack to flip the station, A-Team showed up a second time to try to take out the i-HUB.  That also did not go well for them.

Battle Report Doc

Pandemic Legion’s Kill Board also shows the same story.  Horribly outnumbered and outgunned, A-Team was cut apart.  PL once again provided A-Team’s comms for this fight:

-A- Fleet comms C-J6 06-02 by PLRecordings

These were followed by an attempt by PK to provide an inspirational speech.  You really have to give Against All Authorities credit for fighting despite the odds.

-A- Morale Speech 06/02 by PLRecordings

When asked for a statement on the fighting, an -A- diplo said the following:

As always PL are just looking for “good fights”, but for them, and in larger part for NC. they cant have a fight without overblobbing on supercaps.

EDIT: A diplomat got back to me about this fight. It seems -A- had entered C-J to finish off the structures coming out of reinforce. Local was very high, and the -A- FC decided to make a tactical retreat. The fleet hit jump on the gate and many were trapped either with traffic timers or black screens, while PL made repeated bombing runs and cut the trapped ships apart with the large sub cap and super cap fleets. Team Tech were also in 78- picking off A-Team as they retreated to their staging system of 77S. C-J was supposedly smooth, likely a reinforced node, but the neighboring system was not, and lagged out heavily under the load of fighting.


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  1. DRF is fun

    SO incredibly fucking fucking wrong.
    First tengu fleet lost to a solid bomber run. Second fleet was lost to PL titans.

    1. Fight happened in 78- not C-J;
    2. C-J local was 800 with 300 for -A- team and 500 for RA and friends (with 100 extra supers waiting for jump in).
    3. 78- local had 100 NC and PL waiting (next to the 500 in C-J)
    4. -A- didnt jump in, they were jumping out.
    5. RA didnt engare while -A- was in system. They only engaged when NCdot, PL, Test and XiX were there also.
    6. There was no fight, most kills were maid by PL titans and NC on tengus waiting to load grid, and trying to move with TiDi at 10%

    Pls Riverini ask your ISK back for this BR.

    February 7, 2012 at 9:51 pm Reply
    1. darkdays

      My source in A-Team can verify that this is indeed what happened.

      February 7, 2012 at 9:56 pm Reply
    2. -A-

      Yeah, i agree. This BR is horrible and isn't what really happened at all

      February 7, 2012 at 10:00 pm Reply
    3. Temmu

      Why are all the kills in C-J?

      February 7, 2012 at 10:04 pm Reply
      1. -A-

        Maybe because people got popped jumping in as well….but there was also kills in 78-ft

        February 7, 2012 at 10:06 pm Reply
        1. bagehi

          78 tengus died in C-J, 59 died in 78-. May have just been your perspective on the battle. But that's what the killmails say.

          February 7, 2012 at 11:02 pm Reply
          1. Grath

            You misunderstand bagehi:

            There never was a fight. The morning group died to bombers and bombers alone, one single bomb run killed 67 tengus.

            2 hours later, -A- had come back. When the PL/TEST fleet landed on their ingate to C-J, AAA decided to try and leave the system, and warped to 78-. Again, no fight.

            Before we even arrived, Shadoo told -A- flat out that if they fought, supers would be left out, if they ran, we'd drop titans..

            They ran, titans were waiting, their scout even told them as much, they chose to jump in instead of fighting what was on the gate with them (us).

            The error in your report is your suggestion that any fleet battles ever took place, none did. Just a series of FC errors over the day that cost the average -A- member a tengu and some skill points.

            February 7, 2012 at 11:44 pm
          2. supsup

            Before we even arrived, Shadoo told -A- flat out that if they fought, supers would be dropped, if they ran, we'd still drop titans.


            Sorry bud but PL is just dropping titans on anything larger than a Assault Ship. No need to try to be honorable.

            February 8, 2012 at 2:03 am
          3. -A- guy

            This is very accurate, though i cannot confirm the whole "shadoo telling -a- that pl supers will be dropped if they ran" thing, thats kinda funny as we all know pl will drop supers on an ibis if they had the chance. The kind of "honour duel" that is suggested is extremely unlikely. But who knows..

            February 8, 2012 at 2:26 am
          4. Grath

            I mean, we put the supers in the way of your exit. We left the choice to you, stay in the system and fight or watch, or try and go home.

            Everybody that stayed lived, everybody that ran died (none of the other fleets in system suffered any casualties, in fact the ones that stayed scored kills from the fleets still in side).

            When you're FCing and your scout tells you there are 45 titans on the other side of the gate, you don't jump, period.

            At least in a sub cap brawl they'd have scored some kills, killed some tackle, and escaped with some ships, but by knowingly jumping into the titans, he effectively killed his own fleet to avoid fighting the support by throwing himself to all those waiting supers.

            You can hear the silence as they're told to move 2-3 cm left or right, whatever that means, no targets called, nothing, just people dying. Our logistics reported a single shield broadcast (our support fleets jumped with them you see, and we all loaded fine) and the aggressor was a blue.

            The worst part is, the rank and file asked for targets, and the FC utterly failed them by sperging like a retard.

            February 8, 2012 at 3:12 am
          5. Peggy from prime

            LOL…like those one of sub caps wouldn't have lit a cyno for the shortest hot drop in history……get real. Good bomb run though. Same tactic gypsy band used to smoke a bunch of PL tengus a few days back. Still nice run.

            February 8, 2012 at 3:24 am
          6. lol

            lol pl is so full of shit i wasn't even part of this in any way and can tell you are there to protect ra and pets and you would of dropped supers if you started to lose ships like the stupid shit posting faggs pl/nc. is.

            February 8, 2012 at 3:40 am
          7. Peggy from prime

            RA still owes PL 4 titans for bailing them out last go round. If RA fail cascades PL gets nothing. Cash up front Shadoo…you know that.

            February 8, 2012 at 4:08 am
          8. -.-'

            Peggy from prime.

            If you mean the help pl gave to RA/WTF in Tenerifis? PL was not hired, PL did it cuz they wana kill -A-. And when SOLAR dies, Tenerifis and Omnis will burn again.

            February 8, 2012 at 7:20 am
          9. lols

            Amusing assumptions…

            1) SOLAR dying (not likely)
            2) PL and CO grinding AAA space a 3rd time for useless alliances that no only can't do it themselves but wouldn't survive without PL and co around.

            February 8, 2012 at 11:56 am
          10. Samuel


            No need to try to be honorable about anything bro. In the end its all lip service and doubt that either leaving or staying would of changed the IWIN button from being pushed.

            Nice try thou.

            February 8, 2012 at 3:40 am
          11. Alex

            Why worry what others do garth? Everyone in eve knows PL drops tits on a fleet of rifters.
            I dont get where your coming from. PL is in no way, shape or form leet cause of tactics. they are leet cause they drop tits on drakes.

            February 8, 2012 at 3:46 am
          12. -A- guy

            I actually agree with you, which is very disturbing.

            Anyways heres hoping we learn from it.

            February 8, 2012 at 3:47 am
          13. Head Explodes

            So the choice was

            1. Get blobbed in system.
            2. Get blobbed if you jump out of system.

            Dam, what to do what to do….

            Let see, I choose get blobbed. Then read about PL saying something along the lines of.
            This wouldn't of happened if you would of just fought the blob in the first place..

            Your so far out there you don't know where reality begins and game play ends. You should be called Mr. Rager

            [youtube IofN_sunFvo youtube]

            February 8, 2012 at 6:15 am
          14. -A- guy

            yeah we gonna believe the honor sh*t after the bomber run. hahahaha
            Shadoo is 1 ugly looking virgin.

            He coudent fight us with honor otherwise he would have raged again and died horrible.

            February 8, 2012 at 7:32 am
          15. old timer

            Awagon have been doing exéctly the same in the south , using super blob to take back feythabolis , omist , tenerifis ….

            the only difference was RA pets dont even have a super fleet..

            February 8, 2012 at 11:02 am
    4. I was there

      Confirming your first fleet was lost entirely to bombers

      February 7, 2012 at 10:32 pm Reply
    5. bagehi

      78 tengus died in C-J in that initial fight. 137 total for C-J and all adjacent systems.

      I did not say the tengus died to titans. It looks like the tengus died to EVERYTHING to be honest. I quote myself: "The A-Team fleet jumped, and the fighting went from a solid fleet fight to a brutal massacre in short order."

      February 7, 2012 at 10:53 pm Reply
      1. DRF is fun

        Dont presume to write a BattleReport from some Eve-Kill mails

        February 7, 2012 at 11:58 pm Reply
      2. Carlos

        lol tengu massacre memorial day XD

        February 7, 2012 at 11:58 pm Reply
      3. -A-

        Your not understanding…..there was no "fight", just a bunch of tengus being killed before loading grid. It did not go from a solid fleet fight to a massacre because there was no fighting to start with

        February 8, 2012 at 2:15 am Reply
  2. solar ally

    i confirm what DRF is fun says i was there in cj when -A- was getting hit in 78.

    February 7, 2012 at 9:55 pm Reply
  3. DRF is fun

    PS i love new TiDi.
    It gives titans 10x as much time to lock your ship and for the guns to fire.

    Yep Titans really needed that buff. Thanks CCP of play testing new game features first :)

    February 7, 2012 at 10:03 pm Reply
    1. anonymous

      They also lock 10x as slow. Your argument is invalid. On an argument against it, it gives fleets too much time to catch fleets running away because tidi slows that fleet down horribly when they jump into a system and the other fleet lands and jumps with them. It takes less time to decloak and bubble then it takes to align and warp.

      February 7, 2012 at 10:43 pm Reply
      1. derp

        It isn't invalid, it just isn't worded properly. In essence you will be locked quicker, but not because of the locking time, but because of the time the pilot has to lock you, normally it takes a few seconds to move your mouse around and lock the target, but with tidi, that few seconds your time to do the mouse movement and etc is registered as .5 seconds, see what im getting at?

        I guess in short the game slows down but you don't.

        February 8, 2012 at 12:08 pm Reply
    2. Horde ratter

      clear you never been in an big fleet fight, TiDi is great and help alot with 800 plus in system

      February 7, 2012 at 11:39 pm Reply
      1. derp

        no, its better when the node is reinforced. local in cj was holding at 900 with no tidi until PL, NC. and TEST jumped in with their 400+ man fleet.

        Thats another thing this article missed, AAA/ROL/SOLAR and friends were roughly 400 in number, their were 900 red formed up against us, not including supers and titans.

        February 8, 2012 at 12:11 pm Reply
  4. SG Goonslap

    Holy crap batman, an actual battle report under the battle reports section, wait .. holy crap batman an actual battle report!

    Riv, Bag you have an idea how much happy pants warfare is going on in null right now ? Seriously, less mundane articles and more blood and guts please. Don't make me go to Youtube to get the juicy tears.

    February 7, 2012 at 10:06 pm Reply
  5. -A- High Command

    Confirm we have that vacation home already rented ?

    February 7, 2012 at 10:08 pm Reply
  6. SEDI Pilot

    Can we just ban every super-cap pilot from EVE? No reason, other than restoring the fun to EVE. It's worth it AND no one would miss them

    February 7, 2012 at 10:13 pm Reply
    1. anonymous

      Ccp would when they lose all those accounts and their alts.

      February 7, 2012 at 10:44 pm Reply
      1. Yikes

        Drop in the bucket something like under 3k super accounts 1% of their total base.

        February 8, 2012 at 5:29 am Reply
        1. Spangleadesh

          Yeah so ccp should panda to the noobs on 1year old accounts because they cry life isnt fair they dont have supers – you play the game long enough you get skills and isk to afford such toys, heaven forbid people to use their toys against poor noobs who dont have them…..

          OH wait -A- have titans hrrrrmmmm

          February 8, 2012 at 6:18 pm Reply
  7. hirrrrrrrr

    Fuck PK man lol. Good -A- finally got smacked hard

    February 7, 2012 at 10:15 pm Reply
  8. SgtSimons

    When I started eve a long time ago there were a few alliances that I respected, tri and pl being high up for their superior tactics, awesome fcs and their coming up with new fleet comps. But now they are just pathetic now. Spamming titans is just pathetic and requires no real skills. No respect for Titan blobbers and yes I am slightly mad bro……lol

    February 7, 2012 at 10:23 pm Reply
    1. anonymous

      NC. and Pl are shadows of their former selves. Curse of having tech maybe.

      February 7, 2012 at 10:41 pm Reply
    2. 8008ies

      You mad bro?

      February 8, 2012 at 4:45 am Reply

      Id like to see PL win a fight without using 2 things, supers, and spies. It cant happen because they are so dependent on their supers and spies they will not fight anyone unless they have at least one of the 2 advantages. Eve news posting the links to the clips just shows their "favortism" to PL when they write these horrendous rendtitions of what actually happened. If half of you were over the age of 20 you would be intelligent enough to see that even the idiots who write for eve news are just immature teenagers (or a mentality that matches said description).

      February 9, 2012 at 12:18 pm Reply
  9. nullsecnoob

    Wow that is a butt-load of firepower. i counted 40+ Titans and 30 odd Supers. How till we are seeing 200 Titans/Supers vs 200 Titans/Super? Oh man I want to be in that battle.

    February 7, 2012 at 10:30 pm Reply
    1. SG Goonslap

      Been there done it, and most people who have don't want that bullshit in the game anymore.

      February 9, 2012 at 5:32 am Reply
  10. I was there

    FIrst off intel came in that -A- was running away fast in a tengu fleet and an all call went out. PL had no intention of dropping supers on them if they had simply stayed and fought ( Shadoo's words) he even told their FC's but they ran anyway and PL/NC./TEST/RA ripped them a new one and proceeded on their way home. the PL fleet was all TEST and PL ( sub caps where majority TEST). RA, and NC. were in separate fleets local was at 1300 before we started rapping them. I do not believe xXDEATHXx was in this battle but with that much going on on one gate who knows.

    February 7, 2012 at 10:31 pm Reply
    1. SF/AAA/Rol (~ 400) vs. RA/XDX/WN/Pets (~ 500) & PL/NC./TEST (~ 500)
      Local Peak in C-J: 1402
      50+ Supers in Adjoining System

      If only -A- had stayed and fought :(

      February 8, 2012 at 1:21 am Reply
    2. derp

      you dont know anything about PL my friend, when things start to go sour they will drop supers and titans. We knew PL was coming, and had a feeling NC. was going to tag along and then TEST (meat shield) showed up as well 1000 reds and knowing supers/titans would be dropped, like i said, you cant believe pl. TEST is just some animal to them, PL likes to get a bunch of noobs in Battleships to die for them while they whore on kills,.

      February 8, 2012 at 12:21 pm Reply
    3. LOL

      Stopped reading you comment on "PL had no intention of dropping supers…"

      February 8, 2012 at 1:51 pm Reply
  11. Titans with Bombs ?

    Yeah lots of Titans on this first batch of dead tengus. Not sure if TiDi did play a role there, people on the ground may shed some light on that part of the fight. Tengu blob was supposed to be nearly unkillable by bombers…

    February 7, 2012 at 10:32 pm Reply
    1. bagehi

      50 bombers on that… I'm curious whether something went screwy and the bombs weren't popping each other… it seems odd that 50 bombers could all get in on kills in that short span of time (in TiDi, at 10%, 20 minutes is only 2 minutes of real time).

      February 7, 2012 at 10:59 pm Reply
      1. some info

        The bombers came in 2 or 3 waves..
        Void bombs first, killing the tengu's cap and therefore hardners
        2+ wave was damage, killing the unlucky tengus that didnt manage to get the right hardners online again and/or had loaded sig radius increasing missiles.

        February 7, 2012 at 11:24 pm Reply
      2. -A-

        they use bombers in waves once a set of bombs hit that group warps off and the next group uncloaks and fires

        February 8, 2012 at 2:19 am Reply
      3. Eas_

        That isn't how TiDi works. What you just said was that it speeds it up. How you should of said it was, 2 minutes in TiDi time takes 20 IRL minutes. A lot of it was likely geometry bombing or whatever you want to call it. They basically set themselves up perfectly so that multiple waves of bombs can be launched at the same time with overlap in their blast radius but little to no overlap hitting the bomb itself. It ends up doing lots of damage over a huge area instead of good damage over a smaller area. IIRC void bombs also move faster making too allowing for a short delay between the cap being blanked out and the damage rolling in. I have no idea if that is how they did it though.

        February 8, 2012 at 2:48 am Reply
        1. bagehi

          You knew what I meant. I'm trying to rebuild a computer while replying. Not fully paying attention to EN24.

          February 8, 2012 at 3:14 am Reply
          1. Peggy from prime

            Consider what I've read from you as of late it might be time for a new computer.

            February 8, 2012 at 3:35 am
          2. bagehi

            Not my computer.

            February 8, 2012 at 4:25 am
          3. Eas_

            I knew what you meant but so many others do not. TiDi is constantly described incorrectly so being a stickler for the proper terminology is still important.

            February 9, 2012 at 11:12 pm
      4. The Observer

        Have you never been on a bombing run? They're fun. I highly recommend it, especially when you get a good FC like PL had (i'll admit it, they have good pilots) and get off 50 or so lucky bomb hits. lol

        February 8, 2012 at 3:37 am Reply
    2. WilliamWestmere

      Heard of void bombs? I first saw gypsy band using these against PL tengus and we lost like 20 tengus. They hit them with void (capacitor neuting) bombs and turn off hardeners and then a few seconds after EM bombs go off and hit a ship that just went to 100k+ ehp to like 8k ehp.

      February 7, 2012 at 11:52 pm Reply
    3. The Observer

      Have to admit, that was a nice bombing run. well played pl, well played. and now to buy myself a new tengu….

      February 8, 2012 at 3:35 am Reply
  12. -A- guy

    Alot of details left out in this article, but the fundamentals are correct.

    February 7, 2012 at 10:33 pm Reply
    1. bagehi

      To be fair, the only intel we were provided was from someone who wasn't in the fight and was only passing on what he heard. PL and -A- were contacted and the response we got was… that quote at the bottom of the article. Decided to post what we had and just leave the killmails and comms recordings to do the talking, since this fight was already 24 hours old.

      February 7, 2012 at 10:46 pm Reply
      1. -A- guy

        In fairness you'd have had a better BR from simply browsing kugu as you've done in the past, though you've been heavily criticised from doing do.

        February 8, 2012 at 2:27 am Reply
        1. bagehi

          There seems to be confusion about the fact that there are two different people who write for EN24. I almost never go on kugu, let alone to write articles. Riverini and I are not the same person.

          February 8, 2012 at 3:12 am Reply
      2. The Observer

        it wasn't 24 hours old. it happened about 18 hours ago from this post. At least the first bombing run did. The second fight was about 14 hours ago. I'll gve you a break, as intel is still fresh and not done cooking :)

        February 8, 2012 at 3:39 am Reply
  13. Bear1990

    Props to -A- for giving it a shot, not just once, but twice. Titan blobbing is indeed elite pvp when you have almost zero risk of losing them with the huge amount of supers you'd ping for if something went wrong.

    February 7, 2012 at 10:39 pm Reply
  14. a -A- Guy

    So whats wrong -A- have had a Bad Day, but be sure the next Days they change their Obejcivesto other RA Systems and going on Raping the RA and Friends again.

    February 7, 2012 at 10:41 pm Reply
    1. bagehi

      -A- has had a fantastic 2 weeks. Only fair that they eventually lose a fight.

      February 7, 2012 at 10:55 pm Reply
  15. TIHI

    Im in red alliance and Missed that fight but by the looks of it i didn't miss to much.
    Even i thought it was retarted to jump in all titans and shit.
    could have been a fun fight without all titans and supers and we would still have a big advantage but thats just me.

    February 7, 2012 at 10:45 pm Reply
    1. a -A- Guy

      – Sign

      February 8, 2012 at 1:40 am Reply
  16. bla

    Long story short: CCP was like, let's fuck over -A- and don't give em grid while titans take potshots.

    February 7, 2012 at 10:49 pm Reply
  17. ...

    Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. Keep your head up guys, fighting outnumbered is the price we pay for not blue'ing everyone around us. Seems they really fear us, since they brought a super for every tengu we had 😉

    Thanks to all the guys that did an awesome job replacing our tengus, and thanks to our FC's for not running everytime odds are against us.

    February 7, 2012 at 10:55 pm Reply
    1. skirim


      February 8, 2012 at 4:15 am Reply
  18. Truth is Here

    I am not a BIG fan of Mega-Blobs or Mega-Alliance/Coalitions but something had to be done about the -A- Tengu problem & it was done in style!

    The old crap about they brought a 1000 friends is only reason they won gets a bit hard to swallow when both sides are as guilty as each other for doing that sort of thing. Thats what EVE is about & whom ever works together the best gets the wins.

    It is a shame how many Titans are now being used in 0.0 for things but that is a failure on CCP's behalf to address the problem before it got to a stage where on average there are anything from 20-40+ new ones in the game each month with the total ATM standings at something like 840+ (probably 1040+ by now)

    All props to -A- though for having a go even if it was to end up the way it did

    February 7, 2012 at 11:50 pm Reply
    1. Tyrone Jackson

      really? when did -A- bring 1000 friends ?

      February 8, 2012 at 4:10 am Reply
    2. -A- Grunt

      lol 1000 friends you have been miss informed…..

      February 8, 2012 at 4:39 am Reply
  19. hmmm thoughts

    All thoughts aside how tough would pl be if not for spies? i would take a shot in the dark and say. i would think they would be useless. Good job pl for taking the step forward and have to have spies to win fights.

    February 8, 2012 at 12:32 am Reply
    1. SG Goonslap

      Actually this has already been shown many times, they cannot fight without spies, usually in the form of livestream enemy coms and knowledge of enemy fleet composition and plans well in advance, I'm sure they are paying good money for such intel from all the moles. The difference in performance and outcome is staggering, but it sure is funny as hell to see the 'great and mighty Oz' get uncurtained and run like a scared mouse when their titan fleet is counter hot dropped. Sorry oh great any mighty ShaddOz but those are the real facts, and you know it. Ok you can go back to covering your ears rocking in the corner saying 'la la la la la la …'

      February 8, 2012 at 9:56 pm Reply
      1. Prohorovka

        If spying is so uber mega effective you can:
        a)do it yourself
        b)stop whining when you lose to somebody who does it

        February 9, 2012 at 11:47 am Reply
  20. WOT_owns_EVE

    Russian… It's the new english!!!

    February 8, 2012 at 12:38 am Reply
    1. Random Miner

      It will never be comrade…. OMG! IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING!

      February 8, 2012 at 7:52 am Reply
  21. NC. Dude

    First our titans/sc where never there! Tried to arrange a simple fight with -a- and they ran. Hate to say this but -a- block recalled all allies like a week ago to help so dont cry. Next time -a- will think before running they will just fight!

    February 8, 2012 at 12:57 am Reply
    1. less cowbell

      -A- shouldve fought when it was 400 vs 1000. duh, its not like they got blobed or anything

      February 8, 2012 at 4:09 am Reply
    2. I dont get it

      Don't you see its cause NC. and PL are not the blobbers here they are the killers of blobbers hence why they blob with supers and then say. If you had stayed and fought we would not of needed to drop supers.

      February 8, 2012 at 5:24 am Reply
      1. Neutral Party

        You're right, you don't get it.

        PL is full of shitscared don't wanna lose my ship douchebag ultra blobbers. People join PL so they can use their supers? BULLSHIT! They join so they don't LOSE their supers. Eventually some of them may grow some balls when they eventually get bored of hittin the IWIN butan repeatedly and make a new corp/alliance that tries to go for outrageous kills/BR's without resorting to pussy ass blob tactics Just to be clear, PL, you are a large collection of faggots and not much else, the amount of homo eroticism and penif mashing puts the Gay Pride events to shame.

        TiDi obviously sucks major cock, and why for the love of all that is sentient aren't neighbouring system nodes reinforced along with the target systems? CCP consistently prove that they think out all possible scenarios before releasing ABSOLUTE SHITE on our humble and modest community. Wankers!

        February 8, 2012 at 12:04 pm Reply
      2. skirim

        wut. pl and nc.dawt dont blob ? what killboard are you looking at ? it was 400 -A- & Co. vs 1000 ra plus pets (, pl, test etc, etc) plus they had like 65ish supers

        February 8, 2012 at 5:37 pm Reply
  22. Marcus_McTavish

    Here we go again. AAA is going to stop chestbeating about shooting up some pets and fighting the back of a giant. Then the giant (RA) turns around along with PL and will most likely take back all systems that were taken by AAA, and hopefully kill them.
    Hate the game not the players you freaking turds.
    Thats like saying the US army should stop using drone strikes etc, because they want some gudfights.

    February 8, 2012 at 1:19 am Reply
    1. ET2012

      Dude, RA is not a Giant, RA is a dead alliance just like XX death XX.

      The only giants are PL, NCdot, and Raiden. Two of those giants are stomping -A- as per usual.

      February 8, 2012 at 1:38 am Reply
      1. The Observer

        two giants are needed tbh…

        February 8, 2012 at 3:34 am Reply
    2. -A-

      RA is horrible….notice how many carriers they lost everyday for a week? Everytime we face them and their pets they die horribly. Even when they outnumber us 3 to 1. Oh and AAA will never die..we dont care about sov

      February 8, 2012 at 2:21 am Reply
      1. Prohorovka

        Then you guys really are retarded, grinding some structures you 'don't care about' over and over and over

        February 9, 2012 at 11:50 am Reply
    3. LOL

      Marcus_McTavish – Are you a tard?

      Thats like saying the US army should stop using drone strikes etc, because they want some gudfights.
      US drones are mostly used for espionage, besides that they are pretty shit. Stop watching stupid movies mate.

      February 8, 2012 at 1:55 pm Reply
      1. Marcus_McTavish

        You are retarded?
        No, have you never left your basement, drone strikes are used to take out possible hostiles. HURRDURRHURR watch the new maybe.
        Or do you listen to every rumor you hear?

        February 8, 2012 at 10:36 pm Reply
  23. lolgoons

    Blame CCP for making Blap Titans so powerful and able to track everything. It's pretty silly.

    February 8, 2012 at 1:38 am Reply
    1. MoreSuperTears!

      Oh give over, -A- has the titans just not the gonads to use them – esspecially against anyone who has supers themselves. Lets not paint -A- as the good guys here, i was in -A- years agao when they found it highly hillerious to hit CVA with DD's through cynos, when camping HED gate meant small gang who scattered and in dropped Rag and DD'ed any reasonable fleet which dared to jump in.
      -A- have as many spais as PL, probably more, -A- blueball fights against anyone who can beat them and then only want to fight when it suits them, hence them having a 900man fleet to rape RA and pets but then want to bitch and moan when a bigger blob buttfucks them back!
      Lets face it if that 900 man fleet engaged they might have had a chance to drop some supers with them numbers commited but they bottle it and sacrifice a 60man tengu fleet instead of fighting
      It's not PL and NC.'s fault -A- plain dont have the balls to field thier titans against other supers maybe one day they will grow a pair but i doubt it, they will just hotdrop people who cant fight back and blueball real fights.

      February 8, 2012 at 6:03 pm Reply
      1. derpmonster

        where was a 900 man fleet ? you are deillisional

        February 8, 2012 at 7:36 pm Reply
  24. lol

    makka is really a terrible FC, he leeroys everything…and then logs off when it all fucks up, and nowhere to be seen…

    February 8, 2012 at 2:11 am Reply
  25. Unsatified reader

    Fact -a- lost a fleet
    Fact two articles about same fight in 24 hours
    Fact PL only in news now a days when fighting -a-
    Fact whether you like em or not -a is only fight pl gets, I use fight loosly though.

    doesnt seem -a will hire pl ever for their own use

    February 8, 2012 at 5:13 am Reply
    1. facepalm

      Why hire them when you get others to fight with you and not have to pay them to fight for you?

      February 8, 2012 at 5:26 am Reply
    2. GodForgives-A-Dosent

      While -A- respects PL, we see no reason to hire PL to handle jobs that we can handle ourselves.

      February 8, 2012 at 2:55 pm Reply
  26. I just don't know

    PK was upset, good, I have seen him smacking in local and he is often smug as hell.

    Now when -A- start going on about supers, think back to a battle against RA and pets in Tenerifs about a week or two back when -A- dropped all there supers on what was a very equal fight between sup caps, the plaintive wail of Titan blob that they come out with all the time is so funny.

    PL kick them again and again, they deserve it, I detest hyprocrites and -A- are one of the worst alliance on Eve for this.

    February 8, 2012 at 7:00 am Reply
    1. Small fry

      yup just a few weeks ago AAA SCs were dropped to fight a tiny 40man fleet of RA pets in southern catch. Now that PL and friends are back in the region where did all those super capitals go?

      February 8, 2012 at 8:07 am Reply
    2. old timer

      PK is an idiot

      claiming great victory when he blobs RA pets with his supers, and then cries when he get blobed by PL …. but lol man , you cant take PK seriously …

      February 8, 2012 at 11:08 am Reply
      1. ROFL!

        Th problem is that Pandemic Losers are so full of fail that they can't fight without their supers and titans. These utter failtards completely lack any skill in subcaps.

        February 8, 2012 at 11:38 am Reply
    3. 2=1

      The fight you are talking about must be the one of the many 77s fights. And yes, AAA dropped supers, but it might have something to do with the fact that RA + pets had 10+ carriers on field…

      February 8, 2012 at 2:09 pm Reply
      1. I just don't know

        Actually it is the one where they put carriers on the field to rep, because the Tengu's had destroyed the previous fleets logi. So in fact what happened is that WTF and RA came up with a counter to your excellent mix of Nulli Geddons and -A- Tengu's by using carriers so you raised the stakes by dropping Titans and Supers. Now explain to me why is this any different to what PL does. Anyway hats off to -A- for an excellent campaign after PL moved to help against Solar.

        And for those attacking PL for using supers and Titans, note that they fought the Goons in sub caps which was reported on this site. And no I am not in PL!

        February 8, 2012 at 7:43 pm Reply
        1. brusef

          its different because supers are made for killing caps, but ccp has made it so its easy for titans to kill subcaps, pl always goes right to supers, even if there are no caps on the field. -a- usually only drops supers when there are caps on the field, which there were.

          see the difference? or is your head so far up your ass you cant even see daylight?

          February 9, 2012 at 12:48 pm Reply
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      February 8, 2012 at 4:06 pm Reply
  27. Honeybadger

    TL DR:


    February 8, 2012 at 7:36 am Reply
  28. Honeybadger

    Question…Why doesn't Raiden. PL and NC. actually side with AAA, fuck RA/Solar and use AAA to help them against Goons? Voltron has quality but not so much quantity. What are the ruskies offering?

    February 8, 2012 at 9:46 am Reply
    1. Woya

      because -a- is shit

      February 9, 2012 at 5:34 am Reply
  29. trolololol

    The funny this is -A- is good for the meta-game, -A- is good for dropping supers on fights. If -A- gets out meta-gamed or out supered they tend to squeal a bit. its ok its just the sound of self important pubby carebear fags.

    February 8, 2012 at 9:52 am Reply
    1. -A-

      Pretty sure we dont drop 200 titans and supers on anything we want

      February 8, 2012 at 12:24 pm Reply
      1. Prohorovka

        because you can't, not because you don't want to. I've fought against you, and you guys drop supers every time you believe it's safe to do so.

        February 9, 2012 at 10:42 am Reply
  30. LOL

    In case you missed my comment on PL on the other article here it is again:

    – PL only deploys supers when they have SuperCap superiority – usually when there are at least another 5 blue SuperCap heavy alliances around – I would personally love to see them deploy supers outnumbered, or not in their prime TZ although we all know this will never happen;

    – PL only flyes smaller ships than their allies (this way they are NOT primary’s and preserve that precious K/D ratio) – there are shit load of kill board liks to prove this: a good example would be the fight were Raiden/Goon lost a titan, PL was flying T3's and got raped badly, second time they turned out in tier3 BC's knowing no one will primary BC's over BS's (Raiden/Init) – that is pretty lame … leet PVP my ass :))

    + PL has spies;

    + PL propaganda machine is working hard on en24/kugu;

    This pretty much sum's it up. Did I miss something?

    … like I said … exactly like any other alliance in EVE …

    This one is no different than the other one, PL propaganda at it's finest, they have to be really desperate for attention thees days(3 articles in 2 days) … FUNNY :) Try harder, in the end some one will give you some pity attention 😉

    February 8, 2012 at 9:58 am Reply
    1. eh?

      -A- cutebear mad? 😛 Cmon bro… it's a game, when you were meta-gaming WTF/RED.L it was fair game? When you dropped titans and supers on them it was fair game? But now that the reverse just happened to you it is not fair? I mean everyone hates losing, how you go about losing is what makes you a good contender. Just refit, get your shit back together with your allies and go back at it! Stop the whining, this just makes you look like a noob.

      my two cents

      February 9, 2012 at 5:57 am Reply
  31. Reiven

    Its unfortunate that PL had to drop supers to what couldve been a nice fight. Hell guess it was to be expected :(

    Just curiously is there any intel on whether or not PL is under contract vs -A- like they were against SOLAR?

    February 8, 2012 at 10:25 am Reply
  32. nameistooshort

    Checked BR, posted comment, left. Nothing new – same old boring PL.

    February 8, 2012 at 10:38 am Reply
  33. JustTheTruth

    Why is -A- crying? They do exactly the same, they try to metagame as much as PL, the only difference is that PL has larger cock than -A- and PL wins… (In fact -A- has plenty of spies within Red Arrow Comms). So please, stop the bullshit talks about: "ohhh it is not fair blah blah blah, sniff sniff…" If they were able to field 50/100/200 titans they would do so….

    February 8, 2012 at 10:49 am Reply
    1. PL blob

      PL bragging on killing 60 man AAA fleet with 400+ and supercap fleet LOL.

      Yup, PL is the bigger cock indeed.

      February 8, 2012 at 11:52 am Reply
  34. shiny!

    Haha excellent the punch in the face that -a- deserves.

    Thats what happens when you get cocky.

    February 8, 2012 at 10:50 am Reply
  35. old timer

    what i dont understand , is why -A- and friends are complaign , they are doing exactely the same thing…. spies and titan blob …

    February 8, 2012 at 10:56 am Reply
  36. anonymous

    Everyone uses spies including AAA and they go as far to spy on alliances that would have a hard time fighting them anyway. They are no better then PL in that regard.

    February 8, 2012 at 11:57 am Reply
  37. -A- Member

    Terrible BR, there is no i was there… only Bag was looking KB and heard intel from Peoples that wasnt there.

    Bombrun was nice, later it was a massacre yeah… but there should PL thank Ccp and that awesome TiDi Sytem.

    PL told -A- they would drop supers if we leave, lol they would have drop supers anyways. PL has no honor or something like that.

    God forgives -A- does not… see ya in the next battle…

    February 8, 2012 at 11:59 am Reply
  38. hellion86

    PL has always used spy's en masse, nothing new there. I remember when they had those spy lists leaked and every1 had a massive purge of PL spies, no surprise that they would have a whole new system up.

    February 8, 2012 at 2:34 pm Reply
    1. Blobbing Titans

      No one cares about spies. Everyone uses them, who cares? But titan blobbing requires no skills at all to win. It is a game mechanic problem with EvE and one that CCP will eventually fix. We would all like to see titans in a fair fight but with the cost of titans – they never engage in a fair fight and why would they costing 60 bill. A system is not worth the cost of a single titan loss so no titans usually go down.

      PL gains respect in EvE from their 10v10 alliance tournament fights, so we know they have at least 10 people who can PvP but perhaps not to many more, they would have to sub cap fight even odds for us to know if they have more. They are scared to engage in any fight that's even close to equal cos they are mercenaries couldn't handle the embarrassment of being beaten. It's a real shame PL doesn't take some permanent sov, abandon fighting other peoples wars for them and set all of EvE red. They would regain their respect that way but it wont happen.

      February 8, 2012 at 5:29 pm Reply
      1. derpmonster

        the only reason they won the AT8 or whichever alliance tourney was because of the monkeysphere exploit, but ya they are so elite pvpers

        February 8, 2012 at 8:50 pm Reply
  39. To hell with PL

    People need to stop paying PL and poor more ISK into the titan blob machine. It has gotten to a point where there are the concord of 0.0. Why the hell we live in 0.0 if you know that when you start advancing PL will show up with the cheat approach (spy/titan) and pummel everything?
    Just stop giving them money! Grow balls, fight for your space against invaders, get allies that are like you if after all that you happen to loose, regroup, go back and make the life in your old space hell, but by any means DONT pay PL ! Screw them lazy, annoying mercs! i swear i'd rather loose all i have and be forced to spend high sec mining time, than give PL a penny. Ever! Srew elitists!

    February 8, 2012 at 2:39 pm Reply
  40. -a- spectator

    Funny… pl now hold's RA hands.. because they are being steamrolled… So this means the other front is not being uncovered… so we proberbly be heading north again soon… steamrole there a bit.. until pl shows up again… do this over and over and over… until ccp make titans only be able to shoot structures… more wins for -a-… bad K/D ratio for PL.. which should be posted on evenews aswell.. because seriously the first win in ages and it's front page news… go propaganda war..

    February 8, 2012 at 4:02 pm Reply
  41. AAA Whos that

    It really is quite comical to read comments from A and friends whinning about blobs. Seems only a week ago, their 9 Alliance coalition was beating their chests becaus ethey could crush WTF. Now that they in turn are getting crushed it's blobbing. And aren't we great, we fought anyway. Well guess what A team. You did exaclty what WTF did against you. Funny thing is, I don't see PL and NC dot in here beating their chests. Got hypocricy much?

    February 8, 2012 at 6:15 pm Reply
    1. brusef

      maybe -a- did bring 9 other alliances, but still the fleet only amassed to like 100-200 people, but when has -a- ever brought 1000 pilot fleet with 60+ supers to kill controlled chaos?

      February 9, 2012 at 12:44 pm Reply
  42. Zandramus

    PL are certainly not the pvp'rs they were back in the day, it doesn't take skill to win when you have a spy on everyones coms and can predict what the enemy are bringing. SAS were Pvp gods back in the day, I know because I flew with them. Sadly most of them either aren't in game anymore or only log in to change their skills. I have to wonder if their dissatisfaction with the game has to do with the direction and tactics now being employed by PL as a whole versus all of the fun small gang fights we participated in as SAS before alliances and logistics and supers.


    February 8, 2012 at 6:40 pm Reply
  43. AAA coward

    This wasn't a battle, this was us running away as fast as we could. Turns out our FC doesn't listen to his scouts and decided to jump into a system full of titans on an un-reinforced node instead of fighting it out on the gate with friendly support. It's pretty retarded to try and justify getting owned like that.

    February 8, 2012 at 10:14 pm Reply
  44. eh?

    Well now -A- is crying foul, but when they were hotdropping supers in 77S8- that was cool! Does -A- have like the third biggest super fleet in the game? They don't like being owned by supers maybe they should use their own supers, -A-'s fleet plus their allies should be pretty comparable.

    I give them props for coming though.

    February 9, 2012 at 5:29 am Reply

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