In to JewYork! space-jungle where dreams are made, oh!

FA’s point of view: FCON is stalling handing over tech moons in pure blind, when other CFC alliances has already done so. FCON is being arrogant about it, laughing at FA and Zagdul. Zagdul had enough, and reset FCON to make a statement about not messing with FA.

~Trouble in the CFC~~~~~
(5:53:07 PM) directorbot: FA has reset FCON for double-dipping money moons, some kind of dispute arising out of the sov handover between FCON and FA. I’m about to head to yoga and I’m not cancelling twisting myself into wacky, sweaty asanas just because of this, so expect FA and FCON to be shooting each other for at least the next two hours until I return to adjudicate. Don’t get involved until I order otherwise.

*** This was a broadcast from themittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***
The above message was sent out to goons on goon jabber.

Trouble has been brewing with FCON about a few moons. They handed over the technetium after much hair pulling, but were being resistant over the R64. After much reshuffling sov in the CFC, FCON wanted to double dip their new space and their old space. Basically space was reassigned in mass per The Mittani’s update, FCON Moved out to branch, but didn’t hand over moons. Zagdul finally said “fuck it” after talking with several members of FCON’s leadership for 2-3 days.

The Players

Schalmac: some dude in FCON
Zagdul: Fatal Ascension CEO

Smack

Schalmac > \o
Xes Moonlite > o/
Schalmac > can someone explain what is really happen FA <–> Fcon?
Schalmac > pls
Calanthe Maulerant > What, you don’t trust your diplos?
Schalmac > no not my one
Zagdul > Hello.
Schalmac > it’s like kids they crying for her toys
Zagdul > The problem we have had is that working with your leadership, not your members, has been like trying to negotiate with a brick wall. We’ve worked for years helping you guys out and the “thanks” we get is basically a middle finger.
Zagdul > This isn’t about getting moons, it’s about having to haggle for them with your leadership.
Schalmac > i’m shy
Zagdul > We earned our rewards the same way you guys did in FCON. We helped you guys get your rewards. Then when it’s all said and done, instead of being greatful for our help, we had to negotiate with your ledership for our ~share~
Zagdul > instead of being gracious for our assistance to get you a new home.
Zagdul > So, instead of trying to haggle and negotiate, we’ll handle it this way until we have answers. Pressure your leaders to give me answers instead of avoiding me.
Schalmac > tactical facepalm
Zagdul > that sir
Zagdul > is EXACTLY how I feel about your leadership.
Schalmac > me to
Zagdul > and it’s sad as fuck
Schalmac > :/
Zagdul > we’ve ALWAYS supported you guys. FOR YEARS and helped, had your back, worked with you to take tech/sov/defend etc…
Zagdul > but your leadership instead wants to jew us and try to negotiate on terms which they already agreed to.
Zagdul > I’ll say this much. Tark is a great dude. I wish he could have started the discussions with me. Prijan is running your alliance into a hole.

Then the shooting started, and boy they really had it. The first blood was a Fidelas Constans Obelisk downed in the 8S28-3 solar systemof the Deklein region.

FCON are horrible jews who refuse to hand over our spoils of war.

The spoils you all worked so hard to get.

Fuck them, they’re reset. Have fun murdering them.

-Zag

Stay out of pure blind (particularly FCON’s space).Trap them into Pure Blind, but remain away from the space.

We want them to take down their moons as quickly as possible.

-Zag

Why am not surprised.

R

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87 Comments

  1. Qwerty4812

    O.o

    January 16, 2012 at 4:35 pm Reply
  2. Pissed off FCON

    You know this is complete bullshit right? They reset and wardecced FCON an hour BEFORE Sov was supposed to transfer. Their argument is that it wasn't moving fast enough, even though THEY AGREED to those terms. The entire CFC thinks they are a bunch of whiny, dickless cock suckers.

    January 16, 2012 at 4:51 pm Reply
    1. Jimmaaayyy

      Funny, the words from goon diplos mouths were, "fuck FCON they are pissing everyone off in this coalition" LOL

      January 16, 2012 at 5:04 pm Reply
      1. Pissed off FCON

        Heh, really? I don't remember the Goons saying that in mumble last night…seemed to be a lot of "Fuck those backstabbing mother fuckers, don't they know we are fighting a war right now?" Yeah, you're totally right, wardeccing a blue alliance during a move to still hostile space because getting your moons took longer than the five minutes you felt like waiting is the totally right move. Because that has ALWAYS worked out in the past. Right. So tell me, what was it like being born with irreversible verbal diarrhea ?

        January 16, 2012 at 5:24 pm Reply
        1. Jimmaaayyy

          Wow you're so mad lol, amazing to think this is what an internet spaceship game does to people. Was probably your obelisk and BPOs right? Shame.

          January 16, 2012 at 5:28 pm Reply
          1. Pissed off FCON

            lol we still get Branch at the end of the day, we will recoup losses in under a month. Pure Blind will still be a shit sandwich.

            January 16, 2012 at 5:31 pm
          2. Jumbo jones

            You can't even muster together a fleet to defend your assets against FA, how could you possibly think you could defend one of the richest regions in eve? Fcon is a joke alliance.

            January 16, 2012 at 5:38 pm
          3. Val

            yeah, since "mustering a fleet" against blues surprise hot dropping your fleet with super caps and a cyno in fleet is even possible.

            Learn the fight details before you talk

            January 16, 2012 at 7:41 pm
          4. Pissed off FCON

            Why don't you come try? Oh wait….y'all can't :( Frowny Face.

            January 17, 2012 at 2:37 am
          5. CFC With Intellect

            You're not "getting Branch". You're getting a section of it.
            A rather sizable chhunk, in fact. Be happy for what you've been given, and respect the rights of those who fought alongside you.

            Trust me; the rest of the CFC is getting sick and tired of your leadership acting like a collective group of spoiled 14-year old girls, not getting your new lace g-strong to show off to all the high-sec boys.

            Space and tech were parcelled out as deemed appropriate by those who grant you the permission to live where you now do; respect it, or leave the CFC and be forcibly removed.

            January 16, 2012 at 8:15 pm
          6. Anon

            I want a lace g-strong

            January 18, 2012 at 4:49 am
    2. bagehi

      I sometimes wonder how FA has survived this long.

      January 16, 2012 at 5:11 pm Reply
      1. Jimmaaayyy

        You're just pissed were taking another top BDEAL corp, I suppose you can't blame them for wanting an upgrade.

        January 16, 2012 at 5:26 pm Reply
        1. bagehi

          BDEAL news is coming. I recused myself, and Riverini is writing it. I would hardly call myself pissed.

          January 16, 2012 at 5:32 pm Reply
          1. sour

            nooo sir pls…spare us the boredom of having to read about yet another crappy alliance! fa and fcon r quite enough already xDDD

            January 16, 2012 at 5:55 pm
      2. No one important

        I sometimes wonder how bagehi has survived this long in EVE journalism.
        Stick to articles on game mechanics.

        January 16, 2012 at 6:12 pm Reply
      3. Ex_FA

        I was there when Zagdull took over. I was there when he lost several fleets being a fucking moron. I was there when Otard and the awesome PvP team we were got the boot 'cos we called Zag a fag.

        If Zagdull wasn't giving Mittens sucky-sucky, he'd be long fucking gone.

        January 17, 2012 at 4:42 am Reply
  3. The5thofNov

    “When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.”
    ― Shirley Chisholm

    January 16, 2012 at 4:52 pm Reply
    1. TROLOLOL

      I can quote things too

      "We boldly go where we don't need roads"
      -Cpt. Mel Reynolds

      January 17, 2012 at 2:53 pm Reply
  4. please

    stop apet abuse and cruelty!

    January 16, 2012 at 4:55 pm Reply
  5. SomeCFCDude

    Why does Zagdul always get sand in his vag.. Not the first time he went emo and jumped the gun on stuff. If you play at those levels, you gotta have patience and tact.

    January 16, 2012 at 4:58 pm Reply
    1. One Sided

      Cause hes a douche.

      January 16, 2012 at 5:03 pm Reply
    2. bagehi

      Depends on who he is getting all emo at. Bullies can get away with it when they are picking on someone weaker than they are. Didn't go well for him with Test. Don't think Fidelas Constans is going to be a problem for him.

      January 16, 2012 at 5:09 pm Reply
      1. niggerini

        Apparently you dont know shit. FCON is a pile of shit with GS acting as their life support. Time to pull the plug.

        January 16, 2012 at 5:27 pm Reply
        1. bagehi

          Yeah, that's pretty much what I said. FA would mess up FCON badly if they started brawling.

          January 16, 2012 at 5:31 pm Reply
          1. Fidelas Children =(

            FA messin up FCON? I'm not disagreeing with you, but how terrible do you have to be to get messed up by FA?

            January 16, 2012 at 11:18 pm
          2. guest

            FA and FCON would stalemate.

            January 17, 2012 at 1:40 am
          3. I R COOLIO

            failmate?

            January 17, 2012 at 2:56 pm
      2. Zagduls gonna Zagdul

        Amusingly, it sounds like FA was told by mittens to reimburse FCON for the freighter losses.

        January 16, 2012 at 5:32 pm Reply
      3. No one important

        The FA / TEST fight was all in fun. We didn't like their new BFF (PL), we squabbled, we fought, we both took some bruises, we bro-fisted when mom (Mittens) called us in for dinner.

        And our PVPers were far happier doing that than grinding structures in Delve.

        January 16, 2012 at 6:14 pm Reply
    3. No one important

      If I told you "I'll give you a resource worth billions of ISK/day tomorrow", and then stalled for days, costing you billions of ISK, you'd be pissed too. How are we supposed to get a Prada handbag off the Noble Exchange for our female FA alliance-mates without billions of ISK?

      January 16, 2012 at 6:16 pm Reply
      1. Val

        150mil a day… not billions of isk

        January 16, 2012 at 7:38 pm Reply
      2. Meh

        I was about to buy it till you mentioned "female mates".

        All of sudden, your post lost all its credibility.

        January 16, 2012 at 9:08 pm Reply
      3. cycleyrgunsdood

        As a female in FA, I support this line of reasoning. Reset FCON so I can get the Impress skirt, Avenue top and Minima heels I've been dreaming of.

        January 18, 2012 at 1:00 pm Reply
  6. Dumbnorix

    The important news here is that The Mittani does yoga.

    January 16, 2012 at 4:59 pm Reply
    1. 2012 Eve Drama

      This will probably be included in part 3 of the spartan's northern war analysis report series.

      How The Mittani uses the arts of meditation & relaxation to hone his mental prowess as a solar spymaster to manipulate everyone inside & outside of Eve.

      It should be a gripping read.

      January 17, 2012 at 4:28 pm Reply
  7. Truth be told

    They had all better be careful, I doubt there will be much tolerance for this BS from GS. Neither one of you would be able to hold shit by yourselves. Being greedy and petty over assets that were given to you will only lead to those assets being taken away. Don't forget your place.

    January 16, 2012 at 5:02 pm Reply
    1. Former NC

      Gotta let the pets off the leash once in a while though.

      January 16, 2012 at 5:55 pm Reply
  8. riverini is a faggot

    This article is complete shit. Riverini needs to learn how to write instead of copying jabber broadcasts, forum posts and eve mails and calling them articles.

    January 16, 2012 at 5:11 pm Reply
    1. Former NC

      But but but! If it were you writing these copy/paste articles, then you'd get paid lots of isk for them? Or are you afraid of becoming the faggot in everyone's eyes? Nobody forces you to come here and troll 😉

      January 16, 2012 at 5:57 pm Reply
  9. FA guy

    Fuck Fcon. They are just a bunch of shitty jews.

    January 16, 2012 at 5:14 pm Reply
    1. Carlos

      is that mean you are a muslim or a nazi?

      January 16, 2012 at 6:26 pm Reply
  10. GOON

    Zagdul is a warmonger

    huehuehue

    January 16, 2012 at 5:18 pm Reply
    1. Arty

      Zagdul is a greedy pig. Somebody should said him finally, that he can`t controll everything and everybody and that space commusism doesn`t work. He should ask somebody from countries, were people gone through it (if somebody of them stayed in FA yet)

      January 17, 2012 at 10:45 am Reply
      1. Dumbnorix

        tell me more about the countries that have gone through space communism

        January 17, 2012 at 11:46 am Reply
        1. silentskills

          /thread

          January 17, 2012 at 6:01 pm Reply
        2. Arty

          I obviously thought real communism. This system can work only for a short time, till lazy ones join it and profit from work of the others. Result of this is that in the end all are poor and noone can participate in common activities

          January 18, 2012 at 9:11 am Reply
  11. TheOneEyedMan

    FCON should go ride bikes in Providence or make a tactical retreat to NPC space. 0.0 is like maths on hard and I should imagine they fail just as bad at maths as bad as the do at EVE.

    If I was a goon I would set the CFC toilet to flush….

    January 16, 2012 at 6:03 pm Reply
  12. justaguy

    They'll both be in trouble when daddy gets home and takes his belt off.

    January 16, 2012 at 6:05 pm Reply
    1. TROLOLOL

      though i'm pretty sure uncle mittens is just getting the popcorn ready, rather than his belt.

      January 17, 2012 at 5:25 pm Reply
  13. BobtheBithcer

    Large Alliance tear harvest – what fun :)

    January 16, 2012 at 6:06 pm Reply
  14. goon grunt

    reset FA

    January 16, 2012 at 6:09 pm Reply
    1. NC hot

      Yeah reset FA and watch goons crumble, raiden. seems to be too much to handle for you're 'coalition' imagine what they would do if it was only goons.

      January 16, 2012 at 6:15 pm Reply
      1. Jelly

        You are missing context for this joke. FA and TEST reset each other because of some shenanigans in delve. That time period was boring as hell so it was nice to have some good blue on blue action for a week. Now every time FA is mentioned in fleets, it's typical to hear "reset FA"

        January 16, 2012 at 6:28 pm Reply
        1. Imigo

          Getting a reputation for 1400mm diplomacy. Good times.

          January 17, 2012 at 6:56 am Reply
  15. Paul

    Notice how Zagdul is doing all the talking. He is like a kid with adhd. We must get moons now! you at work? I dont care! now! now! 10 minutes later, still no response. Ok lets reset them! Either way unless fcon doesnt want to hand of their moons he has a point. but so far that hasnt been the case. And if he doesnt want to be treated as a pet alliance he should grow up and start doing there own thing. But until that happens. Its popcorn time!

    January 16, 2012 at 6:25 pm Reply
    1. FA4lif

      We went to provi. The only thing FCON did was welping Tengu fleets to gatecamps/rats

      January 16, 2012 at 6:48 pm Reply
      1. I Witness

        FA got raeped on a daily basis in provi lol, your argument is invalid.

        January 16, 2012 at 11:08 pm Reply
    2. Val

      This is exactly what happened. The handover was planned for 2 hours after they reset us. Guess he was really getting antsy about the tech, and couldn't wait 2 hours.

      This had nothing to do with double dipping tech or renegotiating. This was simply FCON leadership discussing a time to do the handover, since you don't just tear down your tech towers and wait to see if anyone puts up a tower.

      January 16, 2012 at 7:36 pm Reply
      1. KingFriday

        You're right, it would be silly to tear down a tech tower and wait to see if anyone else puts up a tower. That's why you communicate with the guys you're handing the moons to and say things like "0100 EVE time on this date, that's when we'll be handing over the tech moons." I'm still unclear whether or not that kind of thing happened.

        January 18, 2012 at 12:31 pm Reply
  16. xwx

    i cant believe your covering this shit but not all the AWESOME stuff going down with SOLAR, like PL being repeatedly spanked in subcap fights, RED loosing another 5 supers,etc. Shame on you.

    January 16, 2012 at 7:37 pm Reply
    1. Imigo

      *Yawn* Submit a battle report then.

      January 17, 2012 at 6:54 am Reply
  17. Paul

    So, when in a Coalition, don't reset ppl because You don't get pussy last night.

    And PvP over freighters ? Can't you fight like a man ? Bunch of lame retards !

    January 16, 2012 at 7:54 pm Reply
  18. grunt

    As a grunt in FA I have to say I'm having a lot of fun in alliance, actually. That's aside from the silly wardec. The wardec is a bit childish but nobody is really complaining except the butthurt FCON leadership. Both FA and FCON grunts had some fun in 1IX shooting each other. Now it's over. Move on.

    January 16, 2012 at 8:04 pm Reply
  19. FCON Pilot

    Here's what actually happened, FA are a bunch of whiny douches. We never even GOT our moons in Branch until we finished handing over moons in PB, We (FCON) also have chat logs to prove it. Zag was just looking for a reason to shoot some blues, as FA is want to do.

    Statement from FCON Leadership:

    Zagdul made a poor decision today and reset FCON over a dispute about the timing of our moons/sov being transferred. The idea of us being greedy and holding onto moons as leaders was thrown out as a possible cause. This is not factual, we actually lost money every day we didn't transfer moons as goons were holding onto 5 times more valuable moons in branch until we finished the transfer of assets to FA in PB. The reason for the delay is simple, we are short-staffed and extremely overworked in the departments that cover the logistics of POS and Sov transfers, and those members are also working in about 10 other areas that are critical to the alliance move to Branch.

    FCON has come out in a good light amongst CFC alliances due to how we have handled this situation, whereas FA has lost respect from their actions. We will continue with our sov transfers and moon transfers to FA as planned, and will act in a manner that befits a coalition member, as both sides are still part of the CFC. The Mittani has been in discussions with leadership all around to get this resolved, and does not want this escalated in any way.

    Therefore, at this time I need every FCON members to remember that the normal members of FA are not to blame for what happened. They are the people you fight and fleet with on a regular basis, who work with you all the time. The problems that happened today are a result of top leadership in both alliances having issues during the transfer that escalated to this point.

    Our freighter losses will be reimbursed with the goons ensuring this happens. Standings will be reset to normal (Be aware that due to the wardec there will be red standings for a bit when that goes into effect, so watch out). I do NOT want to see any smack talk or problem causing from FCON members to FA members. Let this get resolved at the diplo level where it needs to be resolved, and don't cause brush fires that we need to put out while we need to concentrate on the forest fire in front of us.

    January 16, 2012 at 8:22 pm Reply
  20. old head

    The real thing to ponder here is why are two such completely terrible alliances are even holding Tech moons? Last time I checked FCON couldn't even field a capital fleet, much less supers. FCON is an alliance that doesn't even have a single solid FC, just some guy that smokes even more weed that Kula Kain.

    In their humble beginnings (back in CVA Providence) FCON was the greater alliance, they even stayed and fought 4 to 1 odds while FA was long gone suckling teets up north. Since that time all that was good about FCON has left and a greedy Jewfest is left.

    It saddens me that an alliance I helped form became so terrible. I've said it once and I'll say it again: The 100 guys that started FCON with no sov or moons was and are still tougher than the 1400 moon hugging null bears that disgrace that alliance logo daily.

    January 16, 2012 at 9:23 pm Reply
    1. guest

      I actually don't smoke at all.

      And I have won quite a few battles… not sure where the idea of not being a solid FC comes from.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:36 am Reply
      1. guest

        OH, and when FCON helped FA take their Fade tech moons FCON has more capitals than FA in 2 out of 3 posbash nights.

        The third time FA had one more.

        January 17, 2012 at 1:37 am Reply
        1. some FA dude

          prove it.

          I'm sure there's at least one killmail in Fade that would make your case.

          January 17, 2012 at 9:36 am Reply
      2. old head

        Let me break it down like this. If Alphastarpilot was good enough to be an FCON FC then so are you, and that little kid was going against Cry Havoc.

        As far as not being solid that just comes with being a pet. FCON hasn't won a significant battle since joining the CFC without at least two goon dicks in their grip.

        Face it, FCON is a dead alliance that has long been coasting on the merits of those pilots who have long ago left your ranks.

        January 17, 2012 at 9:27 pm Reply
  21. M_D_

    It is no secret both FA and FCON are made up of fail. Shit they can't even turn over moons properly.

    January 16, 2012 at 9:57 pm Reply
  22. UmadBro?Ulookmad

    First:

    FCON is managed by pure douchbagery …. flat out
    Zag is a pretty cool cat
    FA are warmongers …. we love warmongers
    FCON, SMA, and a few other folsk were asked to hand over the moons (we were all doubl dipping or a day or so)
    FA's POS folks were kind of being douchbags and FCON in thier douchbagery got pissed (some other alliances were getting pretty tired of FA's POS team as well
    FCON should have handled it better (liek maybe emailing zag and saying "dude your POS team needs to fucking chill, its not all that easy to pull down a tec tower"

    Instead FCON acted like a douche in return, FA overreacted a bit.

    We have all been undera a bit of stress lately so…… it happens

    OH and the thing with TEST and FA was justified

    THANKGOD raidenDork have decided to fight back … THIS is exactly what the CFC needs, a unified foe.

    Oh and Riverninni, you mad bro … cause you sound kind of bitter mad bro

    SO MUCH good news to report on and you choose this

    Tardwargon is retarded

    January 16, 2012 at 11:12 pm Reply
    1. Pilot

      Tech moons were actually pulled down 48 hours after we were provided our moons in Branch, they got all pissy over Neo moons.

      January 17, 2012 at 2:12 am Reply
  23. OCD

    Tech moons are R32, for the record

    January 16, 2012 at 11:48 pm Reply
  24. BlackConsul

    I'd like to know what alliances everyone calling all these other alliance bad are in, just so we can get an idea of what the "good" alliances are X)

    January 17, 2012 at 12:16 am Reply
    1. GPHNX

      I need a translation please

      January 18, 2012 at 4:47 am Reply
  25. LoL CFC

    Internal problems…… good, faster the north collaspes, the better.

    January 17, 2012 at 12:30 am Reply
  26. FA Grunt

    Reset was fun while it lasted, FCON are just a bunch of whinny pubbies

    We all know that the CFC won't achieve anything until summer holidays and all those 14 year olds use that return to eve offer from ccp.

    At least give us some fun in the meantime

    January 17, 2012 at 12:43 am Reply
  27. Dumbnorix

    I don't know but I'm willing to bet the majority of FA and FCON (and the whole CFC for that matter) don't really give a shit about any of this and most of the vitriolic posts about one alliance or the other are just Riverini sock puppets trying to stir shit up.

    I guess if you can't be bothered to go out and find the news you can always just make some.

    January 17, 2012 at 1:41 am Reply
  28. guest

    I may have to smack myself in the face if I read another person spell "losing" as "loosing", fukin loosers

    January 17, 2012 at 2:59 am Reply
  29. core insurgent

    http://killboard.the-godfathers.com/index.php/all… FA are uber PVPers farming these carebears everyday for a year.. Only reason we stopped killing them is Goonies needed more Lemmings and decided to install them as meat shield..

    January 17, 2012 at 3:50 am Reply
  30. Shado0

    Yoga….lmao

    January 17, 2012 at 7:07 am Reply
  31. Bubble Benny

    Zag is a fucking bitch, instead of getting on our TS he starts shooting. Offcourse he doesnt grasp the concept of working. Little kid, didnt daddy teach you to fight it out with words instead of your revolver?

    I hope FCON is gonna declare war on FA and run them out of CFC territory.

    yes, this is a trol. lolololol..

    January 17, 2012 at 8:28 am Reply
  32. LMAO

    Always feed your pets or they will start eating your children

    January 17, 2012 at 9:33 am Reply
  33. Gooner

    i made love to Riverini. it was meh

    January 17, 2012 at 5:48 pm Reply
  34. DarthNefarius

    goonies asss raping each other in JEWGEDDON MOON TECH WARS other news at 11

    January 17, 2012 at 5:56 pm Reply
  35. nullsecnoob

    Hmm I wonder why FCON is living in Branch and sitting on some of the best ratting systems and moons in the north? They must be really bad at Eve.

    January 17, 2012 at 9:48 pm Reply

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