If you don’t think BDEAL is that big of a deal, you are welcome to skip the rest of this and complain below about how this isn’t news. Those of you over the age of twelve are welcome to browse this trove of information we received over the weekend. We at Eve News 24 have received several intel leads on a shake up at Important Internet Spaceship League. If you have never read BDEAL posts before, be forewarned, there is a lot of tongue-in-cheek humor. It can make it difficult, at times, to discern fact from sarcasm. Rather than interpret the information for you, here is the raw information as we received it.  It may be interesting to note the difference in tone between the official “we’re leaving” alliance mail:

[spoiler show=”Leaving BDEAL”]

To all BDEAL members,After a lengthy and enjoyable experience, it is sadly time for NSC to say goodbye to BDeal. We came here as refugees after getting chased out of the North by hundreds of supercaps, and BDeal accepted us with open arms and gave us a new, warm home. Since then we have got to play important internet spaceships with one of the best groups of people in the game. We really can’t say enough about how warm and fun the average member of BDeal is, and the simple camaraderie on coms or in ally chat is almost enough for us on its own. However, the gameplay style of NSC has always been a little different from that of the rest of BDeal, and we just aren’t getting the content here that we really desire. So with a heavy heart we are off for new horizons, in search of that gameplay content that our members really need. Hopefully wherever we end up will be as fun and friendly as BDeal always was to us.

As a gesture of appreciation, we have donated all of our customs offices in BDeal space to the alliance for them to keep or distribute among the corps as they see fit. They are also running with zero tax as we transition out of fountain and the alliance, so get all you PI done now! 😛

Again we really can’t thank everyone enough for the home that you have given us over these months, and we hope that we were even half as good to you as you were to us.

Best of luck.

Stephen and all of NSC


… and the email that was sent to Eve News 24:

Another corp is leaving BDEAL who for trying to be a very laid back and calm group of players leans towards the high maintenance girlfriend that Eve players do not get.

Northstar Cabal one of the older members of BDEAL has decided to pack its bags and leave for a more organized alliance that offers better activities for its members. Internal posts from CEO after members asked about the rumors of them leaving as leadership did not inform the general members ’till everything was decided.

Not communicating with members prior to making a decision was my call and was a decision made due to the diplomatic sensitivities involved with such an issue.

Leaving RAGE was ‘easy’ because Vale of the Silent was obviously all going bad and it was important to find out whether members wanted to stay to the bitter end or go. As it was, once we had left, some people did move on because they didn’t feel Bdeal was right for them.

Leaving an active alliance is much harder, diplomacy and drama are the key words to think about here. Plenty of the former and hopefully not too much of the latter. We knew from conversations we have had directly or indirectly that a number of people were frustrated with BDEAL and we felt swift action was required. We also felt that with many members and assets already moved out of Fountain ‘on deployment’ that this was good timing for such a move. However, nothing will be left behind, we can always go back to pick things up.

As Darth has said, we hope that our final choice will provide you, the members, with much that has been lacking over the last couple of months.

Anyone who wishes to talk to me further about this in game is more than willing to do so, after all, over the next few days all i’m going to be doing is JFing stuff around the galaxy.

What effects this will have on BDEAL remain to be seen. How long untill TEST steps in to fix the continual leaving of larger active corps with high participation.

BDEAL has seen internal shakeups before.  For internet spaceships is serious business alliances/corporations, the current change of power and uncertainty would be enough to begin some rage quitting.   Despite that BDEAL is a bit messy right now, with the management shuffle. Being committed to the TEST Vale/Tribute campaign (we’ll get to that later today) has been a genuine headache for BDEAL. During the Hakonen/Vale stint, the Fleet participation was somewhat weak.  Losses, at times, were high. With Raiden showing up with super blobs, and Goons steamrolling Branch, seemingly unimpeded, Test switched campaigns.  BDEAL was asked to follow, though standings with Test’s new fleetmates had not been worked out.  As BDEAL members began deploying against RA in Geminate, Luav, the long-time leader of the alliance, stepped down due to RL time constraints.  As leadership attempted to restructure, there was some disorganization and a general “please hold” attitude.

Under New Management

Here is Luav’s “farewell for now” eve-mail:

Hey homo’s, lesbians, weirdly straight people and numnutz,

This alliance is the greatest group of friends to have in a game like eve. A bunch of guys that work for eachoter and respect evrybody for who they are and the way they wanna play the game. Cause oof that the decision I had to make was one of the hardest in my life (I know its a game), but my rl is becoming very busy in a positive way, new gf, the job I always wanted lets say alot of positive things are happening. I always said RL before game and tbh I havent been able to give this alliance the time it deserves and in adjunction to that the rl the time it demands. For this and some other reasons I decided to resign from my position as alliance ceo as of this moment.

What does this mean for alliance:

Nothing we will deploy with test and kick some ass (I say we because I will go back to being a grunt and when I have the time I will fc the occasional drunk/ skirmish fleet).

in the period between me stepping down and the alliance command chain finding a successor pinky denmark ( he needs help, mail him if you are willing to help him) will take the role of ceo and mulgen will hold my shares.
I will be involved in finding this succesor as much as i can , the reasoin that i wont keep the role or shares is because this wouldnt be fair towards alliance because i do not know when i will have the time to log in again (could be saturday or in 14 days from now).

I was honoured to be allowed to lead you into battle and guide you past the drama.

see you on the battlefield,


The new leadership took over and sent the following Alliance Update, outlining a hefty load of changes:

[spoiler show=”Alliance Update”]

New Alliance leadership positions

Luav has resigned from the EU Alliance CEO position and Pinky Denmark has replaced him as temporary EU alliance CEO while a new one is found.

Luav’s last words as EU Alliance CEO, “Nimits is a homo.” What better way to go out?


Deployment to Otosela

As of January 14 you’re expected to move you deployment assets (mainly ships and supplies needed for strat OPs) to Otosela. During the deployment we will be blue to NC. we will also be blue to PL during OPs only.

While on the deployment until PL is blue DO NOT USE CAPITALS ON OPS
while bringing your ships/supplies into the deployment area be very careful with your capitals

Our new intel channel for Otosela:
honeybadger ***

Some things to remeber:
1- INTEL only
2- There might be -10.0 (AKA Pandemic Legion, AKA PL) in this channel. Do not use information here to try stupid things like blapping PL gangs and so n. No we’re not blue to them but they’re blue to our allies and BDEAL is not going to be the people who start trouble.
3- If you get muted don’t rage. If you rage anyways and some mod boots you from the channel I will not lift a small finger to get you back in with out the traditional punishment.*

*Traditional Punishemnt: Apology letter on TEST forums and sing a horrible song during a major op on TS/Mumble.

-Townsend Harris

Temporary leave from Hakonen

If all goes well, we will be returning to Hakonen after our Otosela campaign is completed. The Otosela campaign, in general, is meant to do something productive to do to advance the war effort while we wait for Goons to finish what they’re doing so they will be able to help us fight Raiden. Because, as many you may know, we’re currently met with a wall of supercapitals every time we bring out so much as a frigate gang. Which is something we are not capable of handling without Goon backup.

Recent events

The corporation “Kung Fu Carebears” was kicked for lack of participation, not paying alliance dues, and for being all around failures.

We are currently working on taking BWF, it is the capital system of the Geminate region (it is to Geminate what 6VDT is to Fountain)

Upcoming Ops

All ops will be under the “Op Timer” tab on the very top of the page for the TEST ops. Also, always be on TEST Jabber to receive broadcast for roams and defense fleets.

All of our structures that are dying and all structures that we reinforced and are in the process of killing can be viewed on a handy site set up by our OOG guys here.


Losing ships is not fun.  Big losses can be written off as alliance assets, followed by a “didn’t need it, already replaced” comment.  However, individual pilots can be bled by continuous fighting with repeated losses, even with replacement programs.  In less than a month, the Vale campaign looks like this.  Nothing big killed or lost, just a continuous sub cap slog.  While BDEAL leadership had the Geminate campaign on hold, Test was mobilizing.  Events like this, before even getting into the war, can harm morale.

The Geminate Crucible

BDEAL next deployment has been announced already, the Geminate campaign, the outcome of this deployment could be crucial for BDEAL future.  Being a tag along without official standings to fleet members can be a recipe for disaster or a chance to show what an alliance is made of, leading to strong future.

We approached Pinky Denmark (BDEAL Diplo) for comments, he quipped:

As with everything within EVE all what’s left to do is wait and see.

Pinky went on to state that other corps could be leaving in the future as the new leadership begins cleaning house, sorting out some of the issues that Luav did not have time to handle near the end of his tenure.


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  1. herp_de_derp


    January 16, 2012 at 8:13 pm Reply
  2. BDEAL's biggest mistake was shitting on orphenshadow He had the passion and the skill to keep them together and when he wanted to take things to the next level they hung him out to dry for a series of incompetent "leaders" if you can call them that.

    January 16, 2012 at 8:16 pm Reply
    1. U mad bro?

      Comeon iveran, just use use your in-game name…

      January 17, 2012 at 12:24 am Reply
    2. I'm sure they had to have someone competent. The problem would be getting past the ego's of a few select individuals.

      It's sad to see this kind of news, even if a few months ago I would have been grinning ear-to-ear. For what its worth I'm glad to have left BDEAL. I am much happier now that I don't have to deal with these guy's drama on a daily basis.

      January 17, 2012 at 8:16 am Reply
      1. U mad bro?

        Nice to see how many of your own corp members have stood behind you in FA. Way to go.

        January 17, 2012 at 2:39 pm Reply
        1. Yep, Got about 50 dudes who got my back. what you got?

          January 17, 2012 at 9:14 pm Reply
  3. NC hot


    January 16, 2012 at 8:18 pm Reply
  4. pink panther

    its me or this site fails to provide the more important news, like the SOLARvsX.I.X war. why its so hard to focus on more important subjects than uploading this think

    January 16, 2012 at 8:23 pm Reply
    1. bagehi

      Because people supply drama more readily than important intel.

      January 16, 2012 at 9:01 pm Reply
    2. pro reporter

      where was the time reporters used cloaky ships to watch fleets fights and make a report of that with statements from members which can be asked after the fight.

      January 16, 2012 at 9:07 pm Reply
      1. bagehi

        Those were CCP reporters who had polaris frigates and dev hacks that allowed them to jump immediately into fights as they happened. CCP hasn't offered me these tools to do that kind of reporting. Not sure if Riverini was offered those tools, but I doubt it.

        January 16, 2012 at 9:38 pm Reply
        1. Yo momma

          Cant you get the true site owner to speak to his 'Bros' and get a BPO?

          January 17, 2012 at 1:11 am Reply
          1. staff o

            i love how former members of bdeal think they knowexactly whats going on in that allience when they havent been part of it for the better part of a year

            January 17, 2012 at 3:39 pm
          2. STAFF 0

            i am orhapns alt

            January 18, 2012 at 10:54 pm
          3. STAFF0

            i mean orphanshadow

            January 18, 2012 at 10:55 pm
  5. Pinky Denmark

    Gotta love artificially inflated news :-)
    NSC left because they wanted bigger friends with better organisation to play with – Good luck in the future…
    We all just want people to have fun with whatever they are doing. All corporations should ask themself once in awhile if they are happy where they are and be honest about it. NSC left on much better terms than many others.


    PS We're recruiting again hehe

    January 16, 2012 at 8:38 pm Reply
    1. I do not think you are helping BDEAL's arguments at all here.

      "They left because they wanted bigger friends."

      Then why are they joining an alliance in the same coalition, with roughly the same number of pilots? I'll tell you why. Because of strong leadership and activity. It's demoralizing to be in an Alliance with almost 30 corps and over a thousand members with No true FC's and Abysmal participation.

      "Better organization"

      BDEAL lacks any qualified leaders. Mostly just people who say they want to Lead but lack the experience or competence to actually get the job done. Case in point. Luav and Pinky Denmark.

      "PS We're recruiting again hehe"

      This is a classic example of what's wrong with BDEAL. Since the "new" regime took over the solution to all of their problems is "recruitment" but they have no quality control. There is no standards for the corps who are in the alliance and no one to step up and clean house on a regular basis.

      But I wish bdeal the best in the future and hopefully someone can save her. But as long as Pinky or Luav has any say in the matter she's as good as dead.

      January 16, 2012 at 9:14 pm Reply
      1. Pinky Denmark

        Gotta love the energy you're putting into flaming me and the others while still being way off with reality… Say hi to all the other guys in FA for me. Drop the personal stuff and enjoy the game 😉 Having fun is a Big Deal

        January 16, 2012 at 10:08 pm Reply
        1. lol i just saw this post….

          Pinky, you are as clueless as ever bro.

          BDEAL wouldn't be shedding its quality corps if everything was hunky-dory. Just sayin.

          January 17, 2012 at 8:10 am Reply
          1. Pinky Denmark

            Hey Orph – your corporation has been shedding a few quality pilots as well, so maybe you're not very hunky-dory either? just sayin.

            Ahh forget it lol
            None of us are perfect, but since you moved out, the drama lama has made the list of endangered species in our area. Food for though and merry christmas Orph :-) Sounds like a win/win situation so I don't get why you're still acting like a girl about it.

            January 17, 2012 at 1:29 pm
          2. Pinky,

            Yes we had some good friends decided that nullsec was not for them. So they formed a sister corp and went back to lowsec. We are still friends and still do things together and I talk to most of them every day. So if you were somehow trying to insult me or my corp. Try again.

            If you want to talk about corporation performance and try to insult our corp. You should take a look in the mirror. Even with our corp split we still have more active pilots and roughly 3 times the kills this month as your corp.

            I was simply pointing out how clueless you are to the real problems within your own Alliance and the reason the good corp's keep leaving. It's not like its some big conspiracy. Every corp who has left in the last 6 months has been one of the top performing corps and cited the same reasons for leaving.

            It's really not hard to make the connection.

            January 17, 2012 at 9:13 pm
          3. Luwc

            Well , 1st of all

            1st MC is not a ezco sister corp . we are a independent corp , not blue to either FA or any other members of the CFC

            Stop bullshitting people orphen .

            January 17, 2012 at 11:13 pm
          4. luwc

            i also fly with no prop mods

            January 17, 2012 at 11:25 pm
          5. orphen

            I think you are confusing sister corp with alt corp luwc. I did not say an alt corp.

            1st MC was founded as a sister corp. for people who could not be bothered to log in or did not want to deal with 0.0 life. If you have any trouble digesting the facts I can show you the conversation between your CEO and I weeks before the formation of the corp.

            It would also kind of defeat the purpose of the split if you guys had standings and were up here doing the exact same thing would it not?

            That still does not change the fact that even loosing half our members we are still stronger and more active than TCN 😛

            January 19, 2012 at 1:48 am
          6. orphen

            If you think about it we split into two corps and both corps are stronger and more active than TCN 😛

            January 19, 2012 at 1:49 am
  6. TheOneEyedMan

    WTB Godfathers newest station in Fountain…. looks like its ripe for the pickings

    January 16, 2012 at 8:50 pm Reply
  7. -A- FC

    this isn’t news

    January 16, 2012 at 9:10 pm Reply
  8. goonpropogandaisweak

    Goon pet drama = best drama.

    Be fooking hilarious if fail cascade starts right on heels of beating WN.

    Newsflash: Good luck consolidating your gains while screwing each other over – and see the BDEAL announcement… Heard it here 1st, failcascade has already begun

    January 16, 2012 at 9:45 pm Reply
    1. some gai

      *TEST pet drama. Get your sources straight. 😛

      January 17, 2012 at 1:16 am Reply
  9. ViperRum

    Love the Forbidden Planet imagery.

    January 16, 2012 at 10:45 pm Reply
  10. Soldarius

    BDEAL has been dying for a long time. Just no one had the ballz to step up and say so. Poor pvp participation, and mostly nulsec carebearing/mining leads to boring eve content. Most people don't go to nul to be bored. I moved on to find something that would get me motivated again. Found it.

    January 17, 2012 at 12:22 am Reply
    1. Soldarius,
      Im pretty sure a lot of us stepped up and said so, in the end we just joined an alliance who gives a shit. It was a lot less effort.

      January 17, 2012 at 8:32 am Reply
    2. venalwarrior

      I just deployed solo into venal, looking for some fun, it keeps you on the edge flying solo over there, wich is fun for me, specially since everybody there sees me as a target 😛

      January 17, 2012 at 8:48 am Reply
  11. Jstar

    If you look up the meaning of worthless , they use BDEAL as an example.

    January 17, 2012 at 12:36 am Reply
  12. Ender

    Hey who we will shooting, don't go BDEAL

    January 17, 2012 at 6:44 am Reply
    1. dani

      yeap BDEAL we will stop calling you mushrooms I promise. … just dont go
      what are we going to do whitout you?

      January 17, 2012 at 8:32 am Reply
  13. lolololol

    So not only TEST are terrible, but they have pets also? That is beyond immagination.

    January 17, 2012 at 6:57 am Reply
  14. test scum

    oh noes, test is in trouble!

    January 17, 2012 at 10:41 am Reply
  15. Gavingoodrich

    Ooh, BDEAL news.

    Hai guys o

    In Pinky's Defense, he had this responsibility forced on him and he's trying to look on the bright side of things. Unfortunately when the provi crew left BDEAL, or started leaving, the people that took over didn't want to run an alliance full-time. At least nothing as serious as what's going on in fountain right now. TBH that space belongs to people that want it more than what is left in BDEAL.

    With respect to Pinky and whoever else is left, none of us, including me, save perhaps orphen and the behind-the-scenes logistics/IT/web people, gave enough fucks to really deserve that space. We deserved it when we moved in, but we sure as hell don't deserve it now.

    But good times while it lasted, miss you fuckers.

    January 17, 2012 at 11:32 am Reply
    1. Ori Empress

      We miss you to! =(

      January 17, 2012 at 3:01 pm Reply
    2. orphenshadow

      Well said.

      The problem is those who did give a fuck worked their asses off and constantly had to fight those who did not give a fuck and did not deserve the space.

      It reaches a point where it breaks you. Where the constant tug of war between trying to make everyone happy, and trying to do what you think is right for the future of the alliance is just too much.

      I think I had reached my breaking point in dealing with those types and it was painfully obvious that they were content with always being in last place and never actually fighting for anything. Am I still bitter, Not really. I still find some pleasure in poking jabbs here and there.

      But I agree the crew they have now does not belong in nullsec. They do not want to be in nullsec, and they are only riding the coattails of alliances who do want to be in nullsec and taking resources away from those who actually want to fight for them.

      January 19, 2012 at 2:06 am Reply
      1. luav

        orphen you are right

        February 23, 2012 at 6:21 pm Reply
  16. UDSaxman

    BIG LEAK!!!!!

    Luav's last words as EU Alliance CEO, "Nimits is a homo." What better way to go out?

    January 17, 2012 at 2:37 pm Reply
  17. staff o

    i love how former people from bdeal " think they know whats going exactly in bdeal when they havent been part of the alliance for the better part of a year

    January 17, 2012 at 3:29 pm Reply
    1. STUD Duficious

      hahahah staffo glad u have bdeals back:)

      January 18, 2012 at 10:49 pm Reply
    2. lol

      It's because most of us still have alts in BDEAL, I heard that they like to recruit known awoxers too.

      January 19, 2012 at 1:50 am Reply
  18. Moonman777

    This is some funny S**t… omg a corp left an alliance [ CALL EVE NEWS] lmao .. just happened at the same time as RL hit our alliance leader which im sure guys in NSC will agree with had nothing to do with them leaving .. going back to defend our home space which was getting ref'd daily while we were deployed by the accounts in article is news worthy.. nothing mentioned about talks same people were privy to about how and where and with who were gonna be deployed which have been in place since before we returned to fountain… grow up stop acting like lil teenagers.. oh wait that most of eve .. continue on as per usual that is all TOOOOO Funny

    January 17, 2012 at 5:03 pm Reply
  19. Gooner

    NSC was THE BEST corp in BDEAL. Hands Down. For some odd reason BDEAL was always second fiddle to the extreme douchebags known as Convicted and were content with following the quasi terribads TEST. BDEAL had no direction, they are the Tony Romo's of EvE, just happy to be there. Their killboard is pretty cool though

    January 17, 2012 at 5:40 pm Reply
  20. luav

    what drama, where??


    Bdeal, cant we just all be friends 😉

    roandomnes is key.

    January 18, 2012 at 7:12 pm Reply

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