Editor’s Note: The following opinion/analysis piece does not necessarily reflect the views shared by Eve News24, the opinion expressed are solely the ones from the author.
The Spartan bring us part two of the controversial analysis on the on-going war in the north.

View: The War in the North and what is to come (Part 2)

Part 2 of this series dedicated to the Northern War will analyze some data disclosed by The Mittani in his CEO Update addressed to the GSF coalition. I will also present some exclusive information supplied by one of the high level FCs of GSF. When a senior FC makes public statements of such strategic significance this means that either GSF believes itself to be invincible, or that person simply became largely overconfident regarding the power of his alliance or coalition. Since the purpose of this article is to present data in an objective manner, I will simply present the facts combined with some personal comments and observations.

For the first time we have a public announcement from The Mittani that he plans indeed to invade Tenal. Even though this has been presented in my previous article, now there is an official statement from the leader of the GSF stating it. Most of you will probably say that this is old news and that was obvious anyway. Well, wait to see what’s next. The vision of at least one of the main FCs of GSF is that as soon as Tenal will be “pacified”, the next in line is Tribute. However, to give proper credit to the one that stated this, I will further present the two options that the GSF is considering regarding Tribute.

Option 1: Tribute will fall as soon as Tenal will be over. We will launch a full scale assault on Tribute in March if NC DOT are stupid enough to side with RAIDEN. We plan on integrating some of the corporations member of RAIDEN and of NC DOT, as one of the estimations made by our Military Team lead us to believe that both RAIDEN and NC DOT will disband once evicted from their currently occupied space. We saw it happen in the past with BoB and IT Alliance.

Option 2: We will allow NC DOT to keep Tribute in exchange for their neutrality but we will not allow them to keep most of their current Technetium moons. We will of course leave to them some resources as to have the means to pay their sov bills. Everything depends on what position they will adopt when we will be invading Tenal.” (Quoted from a public discussion on Goon Jabber from one of their FCs). I will not disclose for now the name of that FC as this may compromise the identity of my source since the number of people present to that discussion was not that big according to what I was told.

Now some personal comments and observations:

1) Tribute is essential to establish a connecting route for Branch/Tenal/Venal. All these three regions inhabitants need to pass through Tribute in order to reach the Empire. Therefore it makes sense that Tribute needs to be blue and secured as otherwise the routes to and from Empire are severed.

2) The statements above are showing a great confidence in the GSF forces that is reflected in the statement issued by The Mittani where he clearly indicates that GSF mustered numbers “in excess of 1600 pilots in active fleets that conquered Branch”.

The overall feeling that Mittani conveys is that GSF is invincible with such numbers. Those that are not bowing now, will eventually bow later when:

“their dicks will be chopped off by Mister Vee and the other GSF Eurotime FCs”. (quote from The Mittani – CEO Update).

The Mittani made another astonishing statement showing that:

“the CSM can wield a frightening level of influence if someone of sound mind and a knack for political manipulation is in charge.”… “I will once again be running for the Chairmanship, and we will be fully mobilizing to ensure that the voice of the people (ie, our people, and everyone of like mind to us) is heard”. (Quote from the Mittani – CEO Update).

While we can not deny that the CSM had a positive influence on the decisions that led to so many improvements of the game, The Mittani starts claiming here that all merits for the positive changes were practically his alone. He further states and admits that he manipulated and will continue to politically manipulate the CSM in order to reach what he believes to be his agenda for the future development of the game. There is no wrong doing in believing in something and trying to make it happen but it is immoral to use political manipulation from your public position of Chairman of the CSM in order to reach your goals and those of your followers. It is ok to represent your own people that may elect you to the CSM but publicly admitting that you intend to use your possible new position of Chairman of the CSM in order to “politically manipulate” and push for decisions that may benefit only “your people”, is again very wrong. So, now there are the Goons as the new overlords of Eve that intend not only to make their stand on the battlefield, but to “politically manipulate” the CSM in order to reach their objectives. It is an incredible display of arrogance and moral turpitude that we can all see here.

My position regarding this matter is triggered by a legitimate indignation that every honest player should feel when such public statements of open “political manipulation” are made. If the statement would have been made by someone from PL, NC DOT, WN, RAIDEN, or from any other alliance in game, I would have said exactly the same things. If Mittani so proudly presents his skills of political manipulator of all Eve, I am wondering where does political manipulation stops when he affirms his intentions towards his allies or potential allies. Because someone that makes such statements can not be trusted in general in real life or in game. Today I may be his best friend because he has the interest in making me believe this but tomorrow he may even not answer my phone calls. In fact, I can not stop asking myself what will happen to those that were installed in Branch during these last days. Because their alliances are in no way able to oppose by themselves to any of their current enemies (RAIDEN and EVOKE for now). When RAIDEN will reinforce for the tenth time their towers or systems, what will happen if GSF will not show to defend them anymore? Perhaps at that time Mittani will simply state that if they are not able to defend themselves then too bad for them. I guess we all remember that this is exactly how GSF behaved in relation to the former Northern Coalition.

GSF pushed all those smaller allies to Branch and that feat required some effort to get them installed there. What will happen when they will come under constant attack? We all know that defensive warfare is exhausting and none of those alliances have great PVP records. All of them dream today of new ratting systems and new farming grounds. But what if those farming grounds are suddenly under constant pressure from your enemies? Because political manipulation has its limits after all. Perhaps Mittani opened here the Pandora box that he may very well have wanted to keep well locked and closed. To want to politically manipulate people is one thing but to openly state such thing in public is wrong on so many levels.

And now the last quote that basically sustains all the above presented data and arguments:

“EVE will learn that when Goonswarm wins a war, the celebration will be the suffering of absolutely everyone else.” (The Mittani – CEO of Goonswarm Federation).

I will not comment on it as I will let each one of you to draw your own conclusions. Perhaps GSF went too far in insulting all those that are not bowing to their new position and power. Below you can find the full CEO Update issued by the Mittani to the GSF Coalition.

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232 Comments

  1. test scum

    blah blah blah something may happen in the future with goons and raiden. ok, we get it

    January 14, 2012 at 12:37 pm Reply
    1. old industry newb

      Mittani is, as I see it, no saint. No one ever implied he is, not even him. He's a tyrant, and tyrants get things done. Democracy is inefficient and working for the interests of your enemies as well as those of your own kin usually ends up in disaster, either by creating instability or by giving power to your enemies up until the point that they shove their knives in your back.

      So yeah, he is unscrupulous, he is megalomaniacal and he seeks and has, to an extent, complete control. Reminds me of pretty much any figure in western hystory, from Alexander the Great, Cesar, Attila the Hun, Charlemagne, Napoleon, Churchill, Roosevelt, Hitler and Stalin. I see a man who has the willpower, time and energy to get grand things done, no matter the cost. And he has a following thanks to his vision, otherwise he would be a nobody.

      Just my 2 cents. And no, I'm not part of the GSF, nor have any affiliation with them.

      January 14, 2012 at 1:13 pm Reply
      1. Carlos

        This is just another NC/DRF who seek to take over the hole north to profit from moons. Its not sufficient to destroy the eco cos of suicide on hulk in empire space. The MRMTF, the Mitani RMT Federation. If you think NC was really tough to kill with all the tech moons, the goons are goona be right there with nearly impossible to beat with all tech moons. Its goona kill eve

        January 14, 2012 at 1:29 pm Reply
        1. LAWL

          EVE is already dead.

          January 14, 2012 at 1:36 pm Reply
          1. Matty

            Again?

            January 14, 2012 at 7:19 pm
          2. Imigo

            According to online posts, EVE has been dead since its first release.

            January 14, 2012 at 11:05 pm
        2. goon

          hi

          there is zero evidence that the CFC is involved with RMT at the alliance level, and if we found any of our allies RMTing we'd summarily reset them and burn their shit to the ground

          get a clue

          January 14, 2012 at 7:31 pm Reply
          1. Carlos

            yea rught, exactly the same as with bots. Its funny how all the big good propaganda against bots russian and then it became public that on goon guy was botting. Then he got destroyed BUT later on mittani spoke and it was reconded by a spy. The mittani in the recording clearly siad not to shoot any bots in the CFC. That the CFC was not gonna do CCP work for them. I onder is this the same stance with RMT. I would not be surprised.

            January 15, 2012 at 1:04 pm
          2. Urziel99

            It's one thing to not rat on botters. It's quite another to assume that the thing harvested by the bot is being used in RMT.

            January 15, 2012 at 7:31 pm
          3. goon

            lol you believe what you read on evenews24

            even if people in GSF ran bots to generate ISK for RMT, that doesn't mean that it's done at the alliance level with tech income. it's not.

            January 15, 2012 at 10:42 pm
        3. o.k

          At some point there's a limit to what isk will buy you. Even with full reimbursements, free ships and all that jazz you still have to shoot stuff and stay alive long enough

          January 14, 2012 at 8:31 pm Reply
      2. Ex-NC Grunt

        And don't forget the glorious Augustus Caesar

        January 14, 2012 at 1:45 pm Reply
      3. Some Dude

        Perhaps the real world should be greatful that Mittens has chosen to be a big fish in the insignificant pond of New Eden.

        January 14, 2012 at 3:02 pm Reply
        1. John Oliver

          I could really live without all the Mittanis and Sir Molles in EVE – their big power blocks ruined the fun of the game on the alliance-size level.

          January 14, 2012 at 6:50 pm Reply
          1. Imigo

            What dark and dangerous game would be complete without any villians? Megalomaniacs make for awesome targets of villification.

            January 14, 2012 at 11:04 pm
          2. John Oliver

            True, it's fun reading about it as long as you don't actually play the game.

            January 15, 2012 at 1:48 am
  2. GIA

    Confirming that the author wants to be mittani

    January 14, 2012 at 12:43 pm Reply
  3. a random goon

    haha! EVE is ours! We are invincible! We will conquer all the 0.0! And soon, Mittens will use the CSM to make eve OUR game. The end.

    January 14, 2012 at 12:49 pm Reply
    1. glenn

      Then will you can destroy it ?

      January 14, 2012 at 12:59 pm Reply
      1. Imigo

        is that like when you put cans all over a gate to lag out anybody jumping into you?

        January 14, 2012 at 10:58 pm Reply
    2. He who was there

      You forgot the part where Mittens then achieves godhood.

      January 15, 2012 at 2:04 am Reply
    3. huh?

      Wait… he didn't do this already? I thought mittens gave a couple secret blows to get that "much needed" super nerf in so his 800 man mael blob now has no defence. Goons are the new NC.. everyone should want them dead.

      January 15, 2012 at 7:07 am Reply
  4. TBH, in the "tone" the spartan wrote it, i kinda hoped for him to start talking about over 9000 penises and how they were all raping children.

    And am not mocking the author, the CEO update is a bold statement, almost borderlining trolling. yeah a few ppl will rage after reading the C-update.

    January 14, 2012 at 12:57 pm Reply
    1. Roland_Hova

      Its not a troll riv just ultra condensed smug posting, our most dangerous weapon.

      January 15, 2012 at 5:57 am Reply
    2. Powers

      I think people forget that The Mittani did this similar thing last year, and that's how Robert Woodhead got onto the CSM. Now him and The Mittani are bro's. The Mittani is making these similar statements to polarize High Sec/Empire into backing ~trustworthy~ carebears with ~integrity~~~~~.

      January 15, 2012 at 9:14 pm Reply
  5. Japanx

    Goons invading Tenal, ROFLOLMAO

    January 14, 2012 at 12:57 pm Reply
  6. droljica

    "…all merits for the positive changes were practically his alone"

    History recorded that 1936-39 someone in Germany claimed the same….

    January 14, 2012 at 12:57 pm Reply
    1. guest

      It didn't take long to observe Godwin's law in this article.

      January 14, 2012 at 1:51 pm Reply
      1. Yo momma

        Aye, Mittens in Machiavelli not Hitler.

        January 14, 2012 at 4:13 pm Reply
        1. John Oliver

          I think he's more like a white trash version of Gaddafi.

          January 14, 2012 at 6:39 pm Reply
          1. truefacts

            Please replace my keyboard because your comment forced orange soda out through my nose and all over it.

            Best.comment.ever.

            January 15, 2012 at 9:43 am
      2. Gumpin

        Wait, 1936-1939?

        January 14, 2012 at 5:42 pm Reply
        1. Johann

          Yes, it was spoken very slowly.

          January 15, 2012 at 4:42 am Reply
  7. Tiniff

    well iam not a goonswarm fan at all but i have to say noone else in this game knows better how to bring player driven content into new eden than mittani.

    January 14, 2012 at 1:06 pm Reply
  8. Carlos

    i personnally find very disgusting of the goons taking over the whole north for themselves. Its far too much land they dont need. I hope the eve comunity units to destroy this evil. This is just another DRF who wants all tech moons for RMT.

    January 14, 2012 at 1:08 pm Reply
    1. A goon

      You do realize that we pretty much open our finances to public scrutiny right? So far near as we can tell there's not enough drift to account for an RMT empire, I think Mittens may have skimmed enough off to buy some sabres though so fuck him right?

      January 14, 2012 at 6:51 pm Reply
    2. Imigo

      Like the NC formed to defeat BoB right? I seem to recall something about a great war and lots of fun had by all with that example. It would be awesome to have that again, please start forming this coalition asap.

      January 14, 2012 at 11:33 pm Reply
      1. Rascal

        And the 1v1 is back.

        *sigh*

        January 15, 2012 at 11:59 am Reply
    3. Shadowski

      Sorry, I couldn't hear you, I was humping the shit out of my own personal tech moon.

      January 16, 2012 at 5:27 am Reply
  9. goonfag

    Im going to make some rambling made by me facts.

    "Riverini is a fag" this was said by his mom so this must be true

    This whole article is just some shit some guy put together with no facts/truth to it
    I mean mittens never even used the word politcal manipulation and there is nothing wrong expressing the voice of the people that voted for him into the CCP, thats what the CSM was made for.
    Its not like that you can controll the CCP by getting the CSM chair or maybe it is and this game is now for ever known as The game of Thrones

    January 14, 2012 at 1:17 pm Reply
    1. Red

      Pretty sure Riverini didn't write this.

      January 14, 2012 at 1:33 pm Reply
      1. Mike ridout

        Was signed "The Spartan" at the end, plus the editor's notes at the very start of the article tells you who wrote it.

        "Editor’s Note: The following opinion/analysis piece does not necessarily reflect the views shared by Eve News24, the opinion expressed are solely the ones from the author.
        The Spartan bring us part two of the controversial analysis on the on-going war in the north."

        January 14, 2012 at 1:39 pm Reply
        1. He who was there

          It does, however reflect the views shared by Riverini :-)

          January 15, 2012 at 2:13 am Reply
    2. ROFL!

      "…shit some guy put together with no facts/truth to it …"

      Sounds like anything any goon has posted and/or said.

      January 14, 2012 at 6:22 pm Reply
    3. just-a-FA-grunt

      Confirming that goons can't read. "if someone of sound mind and a knack for political manipulation is in charge" says right there in the text. I have it.

      January 15, 2012 at 6:48 am Reply
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      January 16, 2012 at 8:28 am Reply
  10. justaguy

    lol – always amazed how easily the goons troll people. This reads like a poorly written episode of the West Wing. I think CCP are smart enough to work out if they are getting manipulated and all the podcasts I've heard the mittani on when he talks about the CSM he treats them with respect.

    January 14, 2012 at 1:30 pm Reply
    1. Gentlegoon

      I agree totally. Even in the Goonian Q&A he's very respectful of CCP and the CSM (in It's current form, CSM5….)

      I totally agree that Riv is being trolled to the nth degree.

      January 14, 2012 at 2:45 pm Reply
      1. justaguy

        To sum up:

        mittani = pro wrestler
        eve news 24 = mark

        January 14, 2012 at 8:45 pm Reply
    2. heh

      I'm pretty sure he manipulated Uxdeath to start the war with Solar so WN. couldn't get support from the rest of the russian block. Ether that, or Uxdeath was working with him all along, with this in mind. Plain to see one, or the other happened, and in ether case Uxdeath himself was manipulated, or the whole russian block. Someone got majorly played, and only time will tell who.

      January 14, 2012 at 7:28 pm Reply
      1. Roland_Hova

        I always feel like I should invest in a company that makes tinfoil every time people post shit like this…

        January 14, 2012 at 9:35 pm Reply
        1. truefacts

          Confirming tinfoil is a very lucrative business right now. My company also a new product rolling out this spring which includes lead.

          January 15, 2012 at 9:33 am Reply
      2. Urziel99

        So the fact that XxDeath led by Uaxdeath recruited the guy who stole 800-900 Billion in assets from Solar after Mactep (head of Solar) asked the other members of the coalition not to accept them has absolutely no bearing on causing a war? Seriously?

        January 15, 2012 at 7:45 pm Reply
        1. anonymous

          who cares about the causes when it gets good fights like the ones that have been going on.

          January 16, 2012 at 7:23 am Reply
  11. Funny

    "one of the estimations made by our Military Team lead us to believe that both RAIDEN and NC DOT will disband once evicted from their currently occupied space. We saw it happen in the past with BoB and IT Alliance."

    NCdot will disband when space they own but don't live in is taken, this makes no sense?

    January 14, 2012 at 1:35 pm Reply
    1. Death

      NC. is a nube alliance and no one cares what you think.

      January 14, 2012 at 2:26 pm Reply
    2. old head

      Triumvirate 9.0

      January 14, 2012 at 2:45 pm Reply
    3. John Oliver

      NCdot moved around quite often in the past and they went on roadtrips regularly, so yes that didn't make any sense.

      January 14, 2012 at 6:21 pm Reply
    4. Roland_Hova

      The part that doesn't make sense is the "Option 1" recruiting raidendot corps. I'm quite sure that all of their member corp would be blackballed by any coalition member alliances and they certainly wouldn't be let into GSF. Maybe the author fails to realize that Radian has been labeled anathema I.E. new Bob. I would also assume no one in radian would want to be in GSF or CFC but the most shitty of members looking to stay in the jewtopia of the north.

      Its quite obvious the author was trolled by someone claiming to be a collation FC or he listened in on boat doing his trolling everyone by acting like a complete moron shtick.

      January 14, 2012 at 7:41 pm Reply
    5. uhm

      lol @ military experts

      We hold tribute for like six months or something. Of those 6 months, we spent 5 in provi, catch, now p.falls…

      As Vince said many times, and it is pretty much the way we all feel, we do not care about space. We care about tech and killing the NC. When the nerfbat hits the technetium, we wont even defend that shitty space, unless there is nothing else to do.

      The only corp who cares about space is DICE, but you can have them now. trolololol

      January 15, 2012 at 9:03 am Reply
  12. Darc Ronin

    LOL, Im looking forward to seeing GSF try to invade my space. We shall funnel them into the pipe were there numbers will count for nothing and I shall watch as the mighty GSF burn.

    January 14, 2012 at 2:21 pm Reply
    1. Johann

      That would be the same pipe where you send your pet hamster? Yes, confirming you will get assfucked by goons.

      January 15, 2012 at 4:36 am Reply
  13. CFC With Intellect

    I can't fap to this.
    Also, any 'indignation' you feel toward someone who openly admits to political manipulation is solely hubris on your own part.

    Anyone with half a mind and knowledge of real-world politics is fully aware that it's all manipulation of personal agendas. To be shocked or offended by someone actually admitting to it simply shows your lack of understanding on matters far above your own intellectual and mental comfort zone.

    You started this post as an update on Goon/Raiden. activities, and then swiftly turned it around to your own political beliefs and views on the CSM. Nice propaganda of your own, I must say.

    January 14, 2012 at 2:27 pm Reply
    1. Imigo

      "Nice propaganda of your own, I must say"

      Not really, no.

      January 14, 2012 at 10:59 pm Reply
    2. LaJesus Primary

      Sounds like you are making excuses for people who have become detached from, and desensitized to, the prick of their own moral compass. What a lovely bunch of people to be ruled over by, both in-game and out.

      January 15, 2012 at 12:06 pm Reply
      1. Urziel99

        Goons have always been ruthlessly amoral. This was only amplified by their foreverwar with BOB/IT etc.

        3 simple options. Join them. Fight them. Or just stay the hell out of their way.

        The only difference between Mittens and the political machinations of the real world is that he doesn't hide it like real world politicians.

        January 15, 2012 at 7:23 pm Reply
  14. spies'r'us

    Mittanis grandiosity has reached new hights LOL
    Thinking Raiden. would disband because of Tenal is the funniest thing i have read in a long time, even funnier is it to even think that Raiden members would join Goons 😀

    And i wonder about his 1600 man big fleets, Goons have crawled into their holes when they couldn't muster 3 x numbers against Raiden, damn they have blueballed everybody for some fun fights.

    January 14, 2012 at 2:31 pm Reply
    1. He who was there

      And raiden crawls into their hole when they can't field 80 titans plus evoke pets as meatshields. So?

      January 15, 2012 at 1:20 am Reply
      1. smurfslayor

        Then you are not he who was there then are you.

        January 15, 2012 at 9:54 am Reply
        1. He who was there

          Raiden (and Evoke) had 500+ people and didn't engage yesterday because they could not get Titans in. So they ran the other way and looked for a softer target. It's SOP.

          January 15, 2012 at 12:08 pm Reply
          1. goonpropogandaisweak

            500? try 150. Nice try.

            January 15, 2012 at 3:23 pm
  15. War Observer

    Speed of victory in Branch might have made Mittens a bit too arrogant and overconfident, as manipulator he should know better then to openly brag that he as CSM member has no interest in improving the game other then creating advantage for himself and his alliance. Before he would have ad least maintained public pretence, but apparently he is to proud of himself to do so now.

    He forgets goonswarm generates practically no revenue for CCP as most of those accounts are paid by plex with boted or stolen isk, while at the same time goons' griffin practices undoubtedly cost CCP hundreds of actually paying accounts. In the end Goons most likely end up costing CCP money.

    Now CCP can pretend all it wants it is impartial and respective of CSM but if CSM key members openly advocate policy that will additional decrease revenue I think will will soon enough say by by to that institution. In the end CCP is a profit making enterprise and ambition of any individual has to take second place to that reality. Hilmar has learned this lesson last year, but Mittani clearly has not and he will likely pay for that, one way or another.

    January 14, 2012 at 2:46 pm Reply
    1. yeahright

      Even if goons a re buying plex its still money in ccp bank you faggot, plex is bought with rl money and sold in eve for isk

      January 14, 2012 at 5:52 pm Reply
      1. War Observer

        :) I see mitten's pets are sensitive to this. So riddle me this me smarty goons who will be bringing plex in to game if you make game unplayable for them, witch apparently is Mitten's admired intention? And from whom will you then buy that plex to extend your accounts?

        Apparently many goons, Mittens included, think they are an island for themselves, independent and isolated from rest of EVE, but they forget that because they are to cheap to pay for their accounts they depend on players out CFC to buy PLEX for real money, the same players goons are committed to force out of game. What will become of a parasite that kills it's host?

        Anyhow it will not come to that, CCP will protect it's profit interest, and goons in EVE will conform to it, or die.

        January 14, 2012 at 7:31 pm Reply
        1. Imigo

          Not all Goons/CFC use PLEX for their accounts, plenty pay cash.

          Another interesting fact is that PLEX makes MORE money for CCP per account. One PLEX costs more than one month subscription, and even more when you include multi-month subscription periods.

          Thing is, with Goons going around making everybody else miserable in whichever is the current activity (ganking blue ice miners, invading neighbours), CCP's stance has historically been "Harden the fuck up" (they even made a song about it).

          January 14, 2012 at 11:29 pm Reply
          1. Shadowski

            The main reason I still play. CCP doesn't coddle people, they tell them to grab their fucking balls and fight back or run away and find other things to do.

            EVE relies on pain and misery to operate, because once you inflict misery on some hapless player, he usually wants to find out how to do it himself and pass the hate onto another hapless player. The circle of life.

            CCP is making plenty of money, and will continue to. EVE is about a hard, cold, and dangerous universe. First time I got ganked, I almost quit, but I started to love the fact that I could loose everything I owned so fast. In fact, it's what drove me to figure out how to deal with it and fight back and is why I still play after 2 years.

            January 16, 2012 at 5:25 am
          2. Imigo

            Hard, cold and dangerous, couldn't agree more. Pain, misery and hate not so much.

            I can totally see how those emotions might be invoked in the cold hard dangerous universe, but when you look at it as just a game (it is an entertainment experience after all) it's really hard to be miserable or hate somebody for what they've done to you in the game.

            What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, and in EVE NOTHING kills you.

            January 16, 2012 at 6:41 am
          3. War Observer

            You like being buttfucked, well good for you then. Why don’t' you buy super-carrier from Mittens then, it will enhance your game experience for sure 😛

            January 16, 2012 at 10:14 am
          4. Imigo

            How does "I don't experience pain, misery or hate because it's just a game" get interpreted as "I like being buttfucked"?!?!? Are you obsessed with buttfucking or something?

            January 17, 2012 at 6:46 am
          5. War Observer

            Goon that actually attempts to make sensible argument! That is a rare find.

            "Not all Goons/CFC use PLEX for their accounts, plenty pay cash. "

            Sure there must be few goons paying for their accounts but this is not something endorsed by Mittens, he advises his members to steal for other players and don’t give any money to CCP, that is what he wrote in his recruitment drive at Something Afoul, this is what he bragged about in recent podcast he was in. That is the way majority of goons do things.

            “Another interesting fact is that PLEX makes MORE money for CCP per account. One PLEX costs more than one month subscription, and even more when you include multi-month subscription periods. “

            That is true but that argument does not benefit goons, they don’t buy plex from CCP or registered dealers, they buy it from EVE market from stolen money, that is for every plex goon buy in that Mitten's endorsed way there is good probability some actually paying player was driven out of game, that is a revenue loss for CCP.

            “CCP is making plenty of money, and will continue to. EVE is about a hard, cold, and dangerous universe. First time I got ganked, I almost quit, but I started to love the fact that I could loose everything I owned so fast. In fact, it's what drove me to figure out how to deal with it and fight back and is why I still play after 2 years.”

            “Thing is, with Goons going around making everybody else miserable in whichever is the current activity (ganking blue ice miners, invading neighbours), CCP's stance has historically been "Harden the fuck up" (they even made a song about it).”

            CCP is not making plenty of money, they have serious debt problems and serous player retention problems, goons targeting new and inexperienced players aggravates that problem, as is policy of ruining game non CFC players. CCP did dismiss that problem as game feature when abuse was occasional and disorganised but recently, largely as blow-back to Mittens' actions, policy has changed, and likely will change more if Goons and pets don’t learn to conform and moderate their excesses.

            January 16, 2012 at 10:13 am
        2. That Guy

          How does pointing out the obvious make us Mitten's pets? Any fool can tell you how PLEX works in this economy, and somehow this concept escapes you.

          January 15, 2012 at 7:05 am Reply
    2. That Guy

      You have no clue on how PLEX works. Every account on EVE is stable money in CCP's pocket because every PLEX is paid with real money.

      For the surplus of PLEX on the market, the cost is dictated by the supply/demand but also the amount of ISK circulated in the economy. The only thing that's going to hurt is the price, not CCP's wallet.

      January 14, 2012 at 5:58 pm Reply
      1. War Observer

        Soooo according to that drop of PLEX supply on eve market would not mean falling revenue from plex sale by CCP? Strange are economic theories you goons have. Well ad least they make me laugh so thumbs up :)

        January 14, 2012 at 7:32 pm Reply
        1. That Guy

          You have no clue on how supply/demand works. Keep up the good posting!

          January 15, 2012 at 7:00 am Reply
    3. Durp

      This has to be a troll… nobody can be fucking stupid enough to believe that PLEX is created out of thin air and traded for ISK……..

      January 16, 2012 at 5:21 am Reply
  16. 2012 Eve Drama

    So basically the TL;DR version of the OP post is:

    The Mittani is a bad man who is morally repugnant and should not be trusted by anyone, even in RL.

    Interesting viewpoint you have there OP.

    January 14, 2012 at 2:53 pm Reply
    1. anonymous

      truth hurts doesn't it

      January 14, 2012 at 6:13 pm Reply
      1. x-nc

        the tech must flow ! :)

        January 16, 2012 at 3:20 pm Reply
  17. tribute holder

    you want tribute? come and take it

    January 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm Reply
    1. Jarlexly

      Mate, surely they will :)

      January 15, 2012 at 5:31 pm Reply
    2. FA Grunt

      Not really.

      January 27, 2012 at 2:26 pm Reply
  18. Some Dude

    What is this "wrong" you speak of?

    January 14, 2012 at 3:07 pm Reply
  19. Yo momma

    Your either a goon bitch and love mittens (see threads above), or your neutral and hate the self pontificating Machiavellian cunt.

    January 14, 2012 at 4:17 pm Reply
    1. Yo momma

      Either way this thread is stoking his massive fucking ego

      January 14, 2012 at 4:18 pm Reply
      1. ROFL!

        Someone should put a knife in Mittani's ego (and him).

        January 14, 2012 at 6:20 pm Reply
  20. I had diarrhea last night, but unlike The Spartan I didn't do it all over my keyboard and then post the outcome on the internet.

    January 14, 2012 at 4:21 pm Reply
  21. BrokenBC

    Spartan = riverini Any idiot can see that. Oh the horrible evil goonies!!! three months ago it was all OMG who will stop the terrible DRF from taking all of 0.0 Now its all Who will stop the terrible evil goonies from taking all of 0.0.Make up your minds!! As for taking tribute who the fuck would the CFC put in tribute.unlike so many others out there the cfc dose not take space it dont/wont use.

    January 14, 2012 at 4:23 pm Reply
    1. guest

      yeah, they would never bother with Delve for instance.

      oh, wai…

      January 14, 2012 at 5:01 pm Reply
      1. A goon

        Seen the map lately?

        January 14, 2012 at 6:45 pm Reply
        1. moartitans

          I saw a full invasion being killed by Ev0ke drakes.. ooops

          January 14, 2012 at 8:35 pm Reply
  22. Raden Pilot

    Well all the fights we have had with goons so far has turned out to be pritty fun. They only engage us if they are 3-4 times our numbers. We even have recordings of the FC´s talking that they can do nothing against RAIDEN. if they don't get atleast 3 times our numbers.

    Second the Goons are still using all the fails on the game. They still, spam local, drops cans from ships and other funny stuff to get the amount of lack in the system, so that they can lag the victory home. I really think if you have to do that stuff to win, Well it talks for it self. I personal hate the way goons are behaving in the game. If thats the way a normal Anerican are behaving IRL I understand now why the USA has such a Economic problem. No one whants to trade with people that have such an attitude.

    Back to the game. Play the game as it is ment to be, and start behave as men. I have no respect for people that plans to destroy a great gaming xp.

    I really hope that NC., PL and Test soon opens their eyes and see the goons for what they really are.

    Fly safe everybody. I love the game very much and hope to do so in the future.
    I love a good fight. It does not come down to winning or loosing, but just to have fun, and be around some great people.

    Nice article by the way.

    C U out there.

    January 14, 2012 at 4:34 pm Reply
    1. Goodfight

      ^^^^

      January 14, 2012 at 4:42 pm Reply
    2. Raiden. Veteran

      Please stop posting, you making us look like idiots.

      January 14, 2012 at 4:49 pm Reply
      1. guest

        Yeah, the post is as terribad as the article. Of course, it could just be someone trying to make Raiden. look bad, or maybe not.

        January 14, 2012 at 6:46 pm Reply
        1. He who was there

          Every alliance has idiots. We goons are very open and honest about that such as the Mittani is very open and honest that he manipulates (hint: if you read the CEO update and believe everything, then you are being manipulated)

          Also Goons are bad at eve. It's true and we have absolutely no problem admitting it. You should see the amount of people that jump a gate when on comms and in-game channel "gate is red" has been continously said for minutes.

          That said, with all our badness it's amazing to see how regions fall to us if and when we want them. All large entities collapse at some point. We are no exception. What is different however is that I can guarantee that a huge amount of our own people are looking forward to that with glee not dread.

          There's some things you just can't get, ever, when you're not goon.

          January 15, 2012 at 1:36 am Reply
          1. Rascal

            It needs to happen sooner than later, no?

            January 15, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    3. Captain! Our shields can't repel stupidity of this magnitude!

      January 14, 2012 at 6:00 pm Reply
    4. imm

      Goons are friendly with NCDOT and PL now?

      January 14, 2012 at 11:07 pm Reply
    5. Facepalm

      Please stop posting and jump out of a very tall buildings window….

      Thanks…

      January 15, 2012 at 2:50 am Reply
    6. rara

      So this post was basically "Haha Goons are so terrible. Raiden smash them over and over! Oh and by the way, can NCdot, PL and TEST pretty please help us fight them?"

      January 15, 2012 at 3:03 am Reply
    7. I dont think Test will ever open their eyes cause as i see it they are just up the same ally as GOONS.
      Test = GOONS light

      January 16, 2012 at 2:45 pm Reply
  23. roflmao

    2/10 for the effort

    January 14, 2012 at 4:45 pm Reply
  24. Kratisto

    So this is the response piece for those who dislike the CFC? lol. get over yourself.

    How does the mittani's quote about the CSM have anything to do with him saying "I caused all of this". He was the CSM chair, and he wants the position again. Politicians using their position to affect their constituents is exactly what they are supposed to do!
    "What will happen when they will come under constant attack?" … then the goons will help defend them, just as in pure blind before VFK. I question this "constant attack" of which you speak, however.
    Stop being a little bitch finding criticism where it isnt viable. Branch invasion talk can start when USTZ alliances start moving to venal en masse with many supers; before then, defense is easy and trivial.

    January 14, 2012 at 4:48 pm Reply
  25. blah

    blah blah blah Mittens trolling everyone again, blah blah blah

    January 14, 2012 at 4:49 pm Reply
  26. Akrasjel Lanate

    not everyone are mittani or GFS BITCH

    January 14, 2012 at 5:00 pm Reply
    1. Name #883

      GSF. Controlling your game since Delve I

      January 16, 2012 at 5:19 am Reply
  27. Unsatified reader

    A politician, political leader, or political figure (from Greek "polis") is an individual who is involved in influencing public policy and decision making. This includes people who hold decision-making positions in government, and people who seek those positions, whether by means of election, coup d'état, appointment, electoral fraud, conquest, right of inheritance (see also: divine right of kings) or other means. Politics is not limited to governance through public office. Political offices may also be held in corporations, and other entities that are governed by self-defined political processes.

    January 14, 2012 at 5:03 pm Reply
    1. Unsatified reader

      the question is agenda, but evry politians agenda is already a bit self serving. Name me one that is not.

      January 14, 2012 at 5:06 pm Reply
    2. derp

      fuck tha polis

      January 14, 2012 at 8:40 pm Reply
  28. Gumpin

    Is it wrong that I feel the goons make eve fun again?

    January 14, 2012 at 5:45 pm Reply
    1. Horde ratter

      Yes an massive power block that the goons have formed are going too attack an good allaince raiden who do have freind so The fight will not be like White noise but Still which allaince hold the space wins if that bad for Eve then Why have nul sec

      people come and people go Empire will raise and soon fall justed as harder An couple months ago it was an different power block that was Bad for EVe
      Also Goons like too shoot and scram with people too much people will get reset to allow this

      January 14, 2012 at 8:30 pm Reply
      1. Gumpin

        Are you a Nigerian prince?

        January 15, 2012 at 2:40 am Reply
    2. Imigo

      Not wrong in the slightlest, I'm (when I can actually log in) having a great time.

      January 14, 2012 at 11:17 pm Reply
      1. stfumkII

        well it is really, they make game crap for the 1% of eve players who arent in CFC

        January 15, 2012 at 3:22 am Reply
        1. Imigo

          Hang on – even if CFC has 50k characters (one per account, massive overestimate) and there are 300k EVE accounts (massive underestimate), 250k (the "rest of EVE") divided by 350k is far from 0.99 (99%). Early high school mathematics FTW.

          If you meant "they make game crap for 1% of eve players who arent in CFC" (taking out "for THE 1%"), then you might be on to something.

          January 15, 2012 at 5:25 am Reply
          1. Anonymouse

            or he could have been sarcastically referencing the size of the CFC (6k pilots?)

            January 15, 2012 at 5:02 pm
          2. anonymous

            CFC is the new NC with the numbers they have at this point

            January 16, 2012 at 7:25 am
  29. krutoj

    Winter break is over.

    Goons will be skullfucked by 100 RDN/NC/PL titans if they try a proper attack.

    Goons will obviously not do anything resulting in a skullfuck, so they will dance around the edges and have another pretend war with their neigbours.

    January 14, 2012 at 5:46 pm Reply
    1. zef

      thought PL was busy somewhere….

      sounds like wishfull thinking

      January 15, 2012 at 4:58 am Reply
      1. heh

        Don't you know that PL can do a midpoint per minute

        January 15, 2012 at 3:23 pm Reply
  30. Sad Panda

    “political manipulation”

    January 14, 2012 at 5:47 pm Reply
  31. harescramble

    Could it be that strategicly it makes sense to have your renters / allies as buffers between you and highsec (in Venal ) while controlling Branch and Tenal with the Tech moons and having only 5 entrance systems to that whole area of space ?

    January 14, 2012 at 6:02 pm Reply
    1. Mike ridout

      Nope. You see.. there is this ship called a titan, and it has this ability to open up jump bridges right past strategic bottlenecks.

      January 14, 2012 at 7:56 pm Reply
  32. Rascal

    So, the Mittani claims to want whats best for the game?

    Then GSF, reset all standings. Same to all of the CFC. Same with AAA and the rest of nullsec. Make it an actual game and actual warfare instead of 1v1.

    The Mittani doesn't want whats best for the game. He wants whats best for himself.

    Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they will reset their standings in the next few months. Maybe most of EVEs powerblocks will implode to cause a real nullsec.

    One can only hope.

    January 14, 2012 at 6:05 pm Reply
    1. Imigo

      Depends very much on what nullsec means to you. If it's a massive chaotic free-for-all then everybody resetting each other would be great.

      If it's a part of the world that is entirely player run with all the political intrigue and manoeuvering that comes with that and the game doesn't impose any restrictions on who you can attack, then statements like "reset all standings" and "Make it an actual game and actual warfare instead of 1v1" have very little meaning.

      January 14, 2012 at 11:11 pm Reply
      1. Rascal

        Alright, what would you prefer? They way it is now, with only a few powerblocks and their agendas to forge nullsec into their own image?

        Or for it to be an easier place for smaller alliances to access, where holding a single region would be huge and there would be smaller fleets fighting eachother?

        January 15, 2012 at 2:01 am Reply
        1. Imigo

          I really don't care so long as it's a player driven sandbox.

          Having said that, there are areas where both of those things occur as it is right now anyway. Sov 0.0 tends towards powerblocks, NPC 0.0 tends towards allowing smaller alliances.

          January 15, 2012 at 5:19 am Reply
          1. Rascal

            And the bigger get fatter and it will be harder for the smaller ones to catch up.

            Which makes the game worse imho.

            January 15, 2012 at 11:54 am
          2. Johann

            Just like RL. If you can't handle the heat…

            Sounds like WoW is the game for you!

            January 15, 2012 at 7:32 pm
          3. Imigo

            BoB got fatter. NC got fatter. There will always be big fish. Little fish just need to know where and how to swim to survive.

            January 16, 2012 at 5:02 am
          4. Rascal

            And thats whats wrong with the game. Its already hard to catch up due to the skill system, so I think having these huge blobs is just unnecessary.

            January 16, 2012 at 11:04 pm
          5. WI. Fanboy

            The skill system works perfectly in giving older players only a "slight" advantage. Think about it, each level of a skill improves one aspect by 5%, but each level takes a larger amount of time to train. So, for example we have a cruiser 1v1 and I have racial cruiser V compared to you having racial cruiser IV, I am only 5% of the respective ship bonuses better off. You fail at maths, and sadly for you, life my friend.

            January 17, 2012 at 12:28 pm
    2. Dumbnorix

      you pubbies amaze me. do you even get out to nullsec? here, let me help you. get in a covops and fly down to paragon soul. look at the economic activity down there. i challenge you to find one commodity that isn't pretty much flatlined. now fly up to deklein and look at economic activity there. who is doing more for 0.0? if you ask me, occupied space with no economy is a pretty sure sign of rmt botting activity. occupied space with economic activity is a pretty sure sign of player involvement and fun.

      January 15, 2012 at 6:06 am Reply
      1. Rascal

        And who were you replying in this post? Cause mine didn't have anything about RMT.

        And just as a side note, you can do both in the same system, no? Botting in a system with hundreds of your alliance mates it is quite a barrier compared to engaging a botter in an empty system.

        Please don't claim that GSF doesn't bot/RMT ^^

        January 15, 2012 at 11:58 am Reply
      2. You should read what your replying to friend.

        January 15, 2012 at 2:13 pm Reply
  33. This is a pretty retarded attempt at persuading NCdot to save raiden

    January 14, 2012 at 6:25 pm Reply
    1. Fine

      They should instead go save Uxdeaths RMT empire… oh wait…

      January 14, 2012 at 7:33 pm Reply
    2. spies'r'us

      save Raiden … from what ???

      January 16, 2012 at 4:31 pm Reply
  34. Atrum

    I didn't know the true definition of "trolled" until I read this article.

    January 14, 2012 at 6:34 pm Reply
  35. -A- FC

    NC. was better without space – they don't need it except for tech and super cap production.. both of which cause complacency, corruption and greed

    January 14, 2012 at 7:34 pm Reply
  36. kraz

    Omg what has this site come to i cant belive you would post this garbage lmao

    January 14, 2012 at 8:12 pm Reply
    1. He who was there

      All news is good news.

      Rule nr. 1 in tabloid management

      January 15, 2012 at 1:16 am Reply
  37. " When a senior FC makes public statements of such strategic significance this means that either GSF believes itself to be invincible, or that person simply became largely overconfident regarding the power of his alliance or coalition."

    Or they are trying to misdirect enemies from their true goals.

    January 14, 2012 at 8:42 pm Reply
    1. Dumbnorix

      Or they are just trying to troll the hell out of sites like this one. In which case, op success.

      January 15, 2012 at 12:56 am Reply
    2. He who was there

      Who are you and what did you do with the real Poetic Stanziel?

      January 15, 2012 at 12:58 am Reply
    3. nikolai

      What goals they might have ?
      People searching for combat have to mind the logistics as well.
      And logi is hard 10s of jumps away. While raiden are close :)

      January 16, 2012 at 12:17 pm Reply
  38. January 14, 2012 at 9:46 pm Reply
    1. bohoo

      as if these where tears. it apperently was a morale speach. of outcome on fighing solar ( solar mch better then goons also )

      January 16, 2012 at 6:24 am Reply
  39. Troubles here

    This author tried to warn us that there were parts of his report that were his opinion; however, it seems like that is the whole thing. He criticizes all he ever writes about by interpreting the events. Maybe, just maybe he should say facts and let the reader make up their own mind. According to this author:

    PL and NC. and evil cause they have many big ships
    Goons are evil cause they have a mean leader,
    IRC is bad cause they strategicly fight with ship losses in mind (they can produce 5 X more ships),
    CCP is stupic cause are manipulated.

    Author, please quit and go play a safe game like farmville

    January 14, 2012 at 9:56 pm Reply
  40. droljica

    “EVE will learn that when Goonswarm wins a war, the celebration will be the suffering of absolutely everyone else.” (The Mittani – CEO of Goonswarm Federation).

    "Eve will learn…" – what eve, u moron, ccp reetarded division in london or those pure retards that were pulled by "inviteafriend" !??!

    "…when gooonswarm wins a war" – what war for Gods' ake, its only, mitanis rmt vs. vuk lau rmt war (ofc now "taking break from eve ")

    "…celenbration.." if u say so ….

    Anyway, have fun goontards … support with ur mitani by supporting goontards RMT coalition.

    January 14, 2012 at 10:18 pm Reply
    1. Imigo

      huh?

      January 14, 2012 at 11:06 pm Reply
    2. GoonGrunt

      GSF will take over eve until raiden/nc/russians and other shit alliances start to suck on our collective penis and take it up the rear.

      January 14, 2012 at 11:27 pm Reply
    3. Dumbnorix

      I can tell you're mad at someone about something, probably your parents for passing on their stupidity to their children. Any other anger would be misplaced.

      January 15, 2012 at 12:12 am Reply
  41. dooshlawd

    ok so after u conquer alll of eve do u go play WOW or something?

    January 14, 2012 at 10:37 pm Reply
    1. Dumbnorix

      if the past is any guide goons will have some kind of hilarious failure when they're right on the verge of conquering everything and the people who will laugh most about it will be goons and they'll just pick up and start again

      January 15, 2012 at 8:36 pm Reply
    2. He who was there

      Sir Molle, the avant gardist of EVE chose SW:ToR instead of WoW.

      January 16, 2012 at 12:59 pm Reply
  42. Dumbnorix

    well i do understand that this info is serious since it's very hard to become a fc in gsf, and this must have been someone in great authority.

    however, i also have my own intel from a high level recruitment director who explained that the whole thing was actually a mistake and that the directorate was seriously discussing peace with wn., but somehow the words "olive branch" were misheard as "all of branch" and the rest as they say is history

    January 14, 2012 at 11:00 pm Reply
    1. zef

      you got trolled by your director tbh.

      January 15, 2012 at 4:55 am Reply
      1. Dumbnorix

        really? you think he was playing some kind of joke on me? like on a message board or something? damn!!!!

        January 15, 2012 at 5:56 am Reply
    2. goon

      I wouldn't say it's hard to become an FC in GSF. Ever heard of Dabigredboat?

      January 15, 2012 at 10:34 pm Reply
  43. assfaggot

    Riverini, are you even trying anymore?

    "Since the purpose of this article is to present data in an objective manner, I will simply present the facts combined with some personal comments and observations." – Riverini

    Then it's not objective anymore is it? Jesus, I can't believe I used to enjoy these articles, now their ONLY about how "the goons" are ruining the game.

    January 14, 2012 at 11:01 pm Reply
    1. He who was there

      You need to know that Riverini used to be in one of the utterly failed old NC alliances who did an overconfident move against Goons explicit advice not to attack the wrong target, got kicked out and then blamed all on Goons ever since. So for fun we kicked them out of Delve too without even trying.

      He's butthurt and it shows

      January 15, 2012 at 1:10 am Reply
  44. CFC Grunt

    Riverini baiting more Alliances into joining his side, learn to metagame……

    January 14, 2012 at 11:56 pm Reply
  45. fu man jew

    Find it so funny that Mitanni thinks he's some political genius and manipulator of some sort. It's so funny to see the nerd on youtube or just see his comments online, so haughty and arrogant. Makes me roll my eyes like a cali gurl.

    January 15, 2012 at 12:04 am Reply
    1. John Oliver

      Exactly.

      BUT – there are a lot of Goons that believe what he says and well, their numerous allies are fucking cowards hiding behind the Goon meatshield, so Mittani is actually quite powerful in this funny little world of ours.

      But yeah, I don't dig all the Machiavelli-parallels one bit. :)

      January 15, 2012 at 1:55 am Reply
  46. Dumbnorix

    RMT is the new thing we accuse people of when we don't like them. Oh, wait, no it's pretty much always been what we've accused people of when we don't like them. Meanwhile, bots keep mining ice in empire.

    January 15, 2012 at 12:21 am Reply
  47. What u expect?

    Goons are goons… somehow people has started to believe in the troll that goons are good and mittens a hero.. goons are not good.. goons are the biggest trollers, scammers and retards in EVE. The head of goons must be the biggest troll of them all or how else do you get to lead Goons. Mittens are using his power that he has via CSM to effect this game so it will be better for goons and no one else. Officially his very respectful and nice about CSM but then you catch him abit off guard and the truth comes out. You can't trust any word his saying in game or outside game.

    When can you know when a troller like Mittens isn't trolling.. i think the biggest troll of them all is that he might not be trolling at all. So everyone is like.. "well mittens is trolling again.. HAHA who cares, his just trolling" and then.. ops.. he wasn't…and now your fucked.

    It's easy to think that Goons has changed and Mittens seems like a pretty cool guy.. he busted the balls of CCP.. taking all the credits for everything.. but don't think for a minute that he even cares about the rest of us. There is a plan behind this.. a plan that will make sure that goons will become the masters of EVE. I'm pretty sure that CCP is keeping their eyes on Mr Mittens tho. Problem is that it isn't CCP that votes for CSM.. its you and me.. and his goal is to troll us so that can keep his plan going. His probably gonna make sure that every last one of the goons vote for him or ppl under his control like a true dictator.

    January 15, 2012 at 1:08 am Reply
    1. Ivanda Nothabeer

      Do you think that I think that you think that I think that you're wearing too much tinfoil in your hat ?

      January 15, 2012 at 3:14 am Reply
  48. really

    … present data in an objective manner …
    Well done!

    January 15, 2012 at 1:42 am Reply
  49. The Observer

    “EVE will learn that when Goonswarm wins a war, the celebration will be the suffering of absolutely everyone else.”

    And that's the reason I contemplate quitting eve every time GSF is successful at pushing other alliances around. I'll say one thing about goons that I think many can attest to. They've become the BoB-esque entity that they claim to hate.

    January 15, 2012 at 2:14 am Reply
    1. a goon

      Can I haz your stuffs?

      January 15, 2012 at 3:19 pm Reply
    2. Shadowski

      Just give in and join a CFC Alliance. You know you want to

      January 16, 2012 at 5:17 am Reply
    3. A Goon

      You fail to understand that goons also hate themselves.

      January 17, 2012 at 5:34 pm Reply
  50. Allah Akbar

    Goons & pets always need to hype themselves up, but they will fail against V good alliances as usual!

    January 15, 2012 at 2:24 am Reply
    1. Dumbnorix

      such as

      January 15, 2012 at 6:00 am Reply

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