GoonSwarm Federation commander in chief The Mitanni landed yesterday on the GSS SOLODRAKBAN Super-Carrier ship. In it and being watched over by a large banner which read “Mission Accomplished”, the Mitanni gave his troops the announcement for the end of operations within Branch, as the region had been, in his words: “steam-rolled”.

At least that’s one way to romanticize the end of a boring sov war against White Noise. in the Branch region, which now lies under full control of the Deklein Coalition. Of course there were pockets of fun, with Red Alliance and friends coming to help. But without attempting to diminish the Deklein Coalition role/skill in taking the region from one of the biggest alliances in game, the response from White Noise. was the one of a fail-scaling alliance.

If you are in the feeling something “shiver-ish, take a look at the following video which covers a good month of Branch action:

Regarding White Noise.

The rumors regarding White Noise. kicking all their english speaking corporations grew strongly about a week ago. According to what we were “suggested to publish” these corporations would leave White Noise. and join Black Noise. a kind of off-shoot alliance loosely related to WNDOT. Things didn’t go as “expected” for the ones orchestrating this move as none of the corps which have left WNDOT ever set foot on Black Noise.

The rumors pointed A PUPPETMASTER as one of the main culprits behind all the drama. Many might not remember him, but A PUPPETMASTER is the same guy who pulled the plug on Imperial 0rder alliance. While the schism was averted to some extend by the recently reactivated WNDOT leadership, this doesn’t change the fact that in less than then days White Noise. has lost over 600 members from the migrating corporations. We are told these sort of migrations will continue as the situation turns dire for WNDOT, having only the Vale of the Silent region, which is under attack by TEST Alliance (under GoonSwarm Federation supervision), attacks which so far has been mitigated by Raiden. & co.

White Noise. DOTLAN

What’s next for GoonSwarm Federation

The gears of war has just begun to turn, the first battlefield of the north has been conquered. Tenal and Venal will be crucial battlegrounds, the enemy is a different one for these two regions. The Crucible is on.

R

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169 Comments

  1. Leaky Bukkit

    Up to 3 posts about this now, jesus, we get it.

    January 9, 2012 at 9:36 am Reply
    1. You are welcome for the piece explaining the WN bit. you are also welcome for the vid. You are also welcome for being mad.

      January 9, 2012 at 9:41 am Reply
    2. chaky

      u mad bro?

      January 9, 2012 at 9:47 am Reply
      1. January 9, 2012 at 9:52 am Reply
        1. Roland_Hova

          A rare good Riverini post…what is this game coming too?

          January 9, 2012 at 4:59 pm Reply
          1. stfu

            while i like riverini, this post is just guess work and mostly wrong, you trying to get your corp into goons riverini?

            January 9, 2012 at 5:50 pm
  2. The5thofNov

    "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve" – Isoroku Yamamoto

    January 9, 2012 at 9:48 am Reply
    1. Svinjche

      Funny thing, I bet both sides look at this comment as referred to them :)

      January 9, 2012 at 11:52 am Reply
    2. wn=ussr+usa

      Eve is literally ww2 you say?

      Pearl harbour would be like losing a system or two then turning up after a couple of days. What happened in Branch over the last two weeks would be like if the US lost the whole western seaboard from Seattle to LA overnight while the entire Marine Corps tap danced their way through every bar in Cleveland with the US army passed out on the floor. And the USN joining Manchukuo (supposedly because Manchukuo wants to poach all the cool bro fascists then troll the rest out, but really it's because Manchukuo is terrible).

      January 9, 2012 at 4:15 pm Reply
      1. anonymous

        Branch is Poland obviously and they got blitzed.

        January 9, 2012 at 7:58 pm Reply
        1. Cerneus

          Screw ya! France was blitzed, we were defending for a few weeks at least!

          Hehe.

          January 9, 2012 at 8:07 pm Reply
          1. fact

            thats because france had a better infrastructure

            January 9, 2012 at 9:57 pm
          2. DL.

            Rofl

            January 9, 2012 at 10:09 pm
          3. Silentskills

            epic reply

            January 9, 2012 at 11:28 pm
          4. Cerneus

            Sir. You won.

            January 10, 2012 at 5:56 pm
          5. Mr. Black Aces

            Errr? Poland turned over so quick even the Germans didn't know WTF to do about it. Typical Pol, take credit for something that isn't. That is why you'll always be a 4th world country. Yes, 4th, even Mexico is above you.

            January 10, 2012 at 1:46 am
          6. mr. black asses

            I think you might have a rare case of umad.

            January 10, 2012 at 1:32 pm
          7. sour

            hey mr black, did a polish guy touch ur wife inappropriately?? 😛

            January 10, 2012 at 3:35 pm
      2. The5thofNov

        Its interesting how a quote can apply to different situations reguardless of the context they were originally intended for. You should look into it, and live a happy life knowing that not everything is literal.

        January 9, 2012 at 9:07 pm Reply
        1. For the uninitiated

          ~Eve is literally ww2~ is an older gf forum meme (that has spread around a bit by now) about how hilariously inept pubbies constantly use the same terrible historical comparisons, that and ~Sun Tzu quotes~. That guys post was a fairly meta (also bad) tongue in cheek rp of an average pubbie ceo's 'riveting speach' ala that wn ceo speech in late December where they talked about Stalin, I see the subtlety was lost on you.

          <img src="http://images.wikia.com/creepypasta/images/1/13/Thats_the_joke.jpg"&gt;

          January 10, 2012 at 12:45 am Reply
    3. Muhaha

      Funny, this was said about the old NC … Turns out bad for them in the end … :)

      January 10, 2012 at 9:16 am Reply
  3. Rascal

    Ah, such a bad attempt at propaganda.

    Just what I've come to expect from Riverini.

    January 9, 2012 at 10:00 am Reply
  4. prasac

    U MAD!!!
    War just started!!!
    Also WN kicked carebears corps now only core pvp corps under WN banner.
    Cheeks last KM noob we rocks 100 man wn fleet kill 300-400 noobs from goons and pets
    Before 2 days 280 goons fleet run from only 83 ppl from WN .
    DEKLEIN BEFORE FEBRUARY LITTLE BEES

    January 9, 2012 at 10:01 am Reply
    1. Yeah, this month we are getting paid by GSF to write favorable articles about them… don't mind the Sov map. :rolleyes:

      January 9, 2012 at 10:09 am Reply
      1. Wookatook

        admire your wit riverini, you gotta love prasac's optimism though, L O L

        January 9, 2012 at 10:16 am Reply
      2. bored guy

        what about the sov map?
        sov is just a Concord Bill :) , for who wants to pay it.
        Check out Fontain … TEST's home region
        6vdt – local 4
        teg- local 8
        …..
        Yes It`s F* Empty!

        January 9, 2012 at 10:29 am Reply
        1. Trapped

          We didn't want that sov anyway, amirite?

          January 9, 2012 at 11:30 am Reply
        2. FrontlineTestie

          It's not like we're deployed or anything

          January 9, 2012 at 2:40 pm Reply
        3. truefacts

          Please Ignore Fountain.

          January 9, 2012 at 10:54 pm Reply
      3. cucubau

        everybody know this! obvious is obvious

        January 9, 2012 at 2:26 pm Reply
    2. argle_bargle

      Russians who don't know "trimming the dead wood" is the penultimate stage of a failure cascade crew checking in~

      January 9, 2012 at 12:47 pm Reply
  5. KieranTremzark

    so E24 are goons loving propaganda fags? and we all had the opinion that goons hate E24………

    January 9, 2012 at 10:07 am Reply
    1. KieranTremzark

      already 3 dislikes from obvious goons

      January 9, 2012 at 10:25 am Reply
      1. Former NC

        Mostly it's because you're a shit poster. Shit posters get negrep – welcome to the internet.

        January 9, 2012 at 10:30 am Reply
        1. Some FA Dude

          uMad? Confirming… Shit posters get negrep.

          January 9, 2012 at 10:47 am Reply
      2. truefacts

        Is there a…

        Problem?

        January 9, 2012 at 11:00 pm Reply
    2. TROLOLOL

      So remember what happened when MM decided to kick their indy corps?

      January 10, 2012 at 4:58 pm Reply
  6. Svinjche

    Such lame attempt at propaganda…

    Where is that TEST assault in Vale? http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Vale_of_the_Silent#

    I know, it ended here: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12

    All systems secured back from WN, stations repaired, tech towers taken back.

    Now, PL is securing drone land on behalf of WN allies, and even WN allies are coming to north.

    CF coalition VS WN+Raiden+RA+allies coalition. Coalition against coalition.

    Goons do not engage 80man WN fleet with 240 of their own pilots, cuz they need more numbers. What will happen when 400-500 subcap fleet plus supers comes knocking on their doorstep? :)

    DEKLEIN BEFORE FEBRUARY GOONIES!

    January 9, 2012 at 10:31 am Reply
    1. welpagoon

      welp… we are dead bro then :scaredface:

      January 9, 2012 at 10:46 am Reply
    2. argle_bargle

      We win because they haven't taken ALL our space yet!

      Didn't want that region anyway. Or all those CSAA.

      January 9, 2012 at 11:15 am Reply
      1. Rascal

        Cause goons are so good at keeping space.

        January 9, 2012 at 12:06 pm Reply
    3. cucubau

      this will happen, no matter how many thumbs down you give.

      January 9, 2012 at 2:25 pm Reply
    4. CFC

      lol to all of this. PL, NC. and TEST are all Blue. NC. and PL are preparing invasion of Geminate just for the lulz. your propaganda machine. it's brok'd.

      January 9, 2012 at 5:06 pm Reply
      1. svinjce

        omg then I have to admit TEST is an awesome alliance, since they are taking Vale and preparing to invade Geminate…

        Will TEST be invading from their stations in Vale as well?

        January 9, 2012 at 5:29 pm Reply
        1. truefacts

          Yes. Confirming Test will be invading from their stations in Vale.

          January 9, 2012 at 10:56 pm Reply
          1. svinjce

            Must be some different Vale then…

            January 9, 2012 at 11:12 pm
  7. rara

    You can't write a post describing a CFC victory without making an analogy to the war in Iraq, hahahaha

    January 9, 2012 at 10:34 am Reply
  8. More Tears

    Confirming NC. Is now Blue to CFC and will be assisting in campaign to remove BoB reincarnates

    January 9, 2012 at 10:34 am Reply
    1. Trapped

      Uhhhh…. Aren't NC. and RAIDEN. both made up mainly of ex-bob/IT people?

      January 9, 2012 at 11:27 am Reply
      1. TestGruntBestGrunt

        NC = Triumvirate (mk. XXXVIII)
        Raiden = BoB (GBC/Kenzoku/IT/whathaveyou)

        (veeeeeery rough approximation, but still "true enough")

        January 9, 2012 at 11:52 am Reply
        1. Frodo the BOBit

          What I find funny: to Goon propaganda, Red Alliance is no longer Red Alliance because none of the original corps are still in there, but Raiden. is still BOB despite none of the original BOB corps being in Raiden.

          January 10, 2012 at 8:35 am Reply
          1. goon

            FinFleet was in BOB, fyi

            January 10, 2012 at 10:22 pm
      2. anonymous

        Very big difference between BoB and Tri

        January 9, 2012 at 7:59 pm Reply
    2. Bashiri

      how can you get Tri and bob mix up?

      January 9, 2012 at 12:23 pm Reply
      1. ViperRum

        DICE is ex-BoB and Raiden. has more than just ex-BoB corps. RKK and Evol aren't in either…kind of inaccurate calling Raiden. Bob…great propaganda, though.

        January 9, 2012 at 9:07 pm Reply
    3. 2012 Eve Drama

      Soon all tech moons in north belong to CFC.

      January 9, 2012 at 2:50 pm Reply
      1. Muhaha

        Not yet

        January 10, 2012 at 9:18 am Reply
  9. TestGruntBestGrunt

    It is so hard to correctly spell "Mittani", instead of the ubiquitous "Mitanni"?

    Ok, yes, it is.

    *sob*

    January 9, 2012 at 10:53 am Reply
    1. Beck

      It's funnier that WNdot was called "one of the biggest alliances in the game"…. It was an alliance of 1500…… versus a coalition of close to 25000….. Hell WNdot wasn't even half the size of GSF proper, yet alone the pet army.

      GJ Mittens, nobody would have thought at the start of the branch invastion that your pet army would have "steamrolled them". /sarcastic

      January 9, 2012 at 12:29 pm Reply
      1. Scar

        Yep the Goonwaffe corp is bigger than the entire WN. alliance.

        January 9, 2012 at 2:49 pm Reply
        1. aaaaaaaaa

          that would imply that goonwaffe logs in

          January 9, 2012 at 4:13 pm Reply
      2. James

        Hey I remember when WN aka DRF was going to kill of the NC? WTF happened?

        January 9, 2012 at 8:09 pm Reply
        1. Carlos

          NC imploded under pressure. Thats what happened!
          The bears in WN just gone to hibernation 😉

          January 9, 2012 at 8:12 pm Reply
        2. anonymous

          I think they did…. MM folded Brick is doing.. nothing really, and razor has clung to goons to stay alive.

          January 10, 2012 at 3:04 am Reply
  10. ...

    Wow en24 is worse than kugu

    also: "they used supers so we win by default"

    January 9, 2012 at 10:56 am Reply
  11. SomeDude

    Good job Goons u have Branch now but can u keep it?

    January 9, 2012 at 11:38 am Reply
    1. SomeDude

      lol 2 goons dont think they can keep it acording to my -2 on my comment ..

      January 9, 2012 at 7:28 pm Reply
      1. truefacts

        The minus two is for asking a crap question.

        January 9, 2012 at 10:51 pm Reply
  12. O.k

    CFC has successfully made themselves enemies with the rest of eve. Let's see how they can hold up in the longer run without 70% of eve blued

    January 9, 2012 at 12:06 pm Reply
    1. Muhaha

      Yea … let's see that

      January 10, 2012 at 9:32 am Reply
    2. TROLOLOL

      You make it sound like this is the first time goons pissed off the rest of eve.

      Hisec pubbie alert.

      January 10, 2012 at 4:55 pm Reply
  13. O.k

    Goons have just created their new nemesis. Russian NC

    January 9, 2012 at 12:17 pm Reply
  14. EN24 at it best

    "But without attempting to diminish the Deklein Coalition role/skill in taking the region from one of the biggest alliances in game"

    Skill? Lol blobbing 1000+ dudes from 15+ alliances against 100-200 men fleet called skill these days? There was no fights during holidays because there was no point trying with those odds. It would be fucking sad if you couldn't steamroll that region with the numbers you had during holidays.

    Obviously region was lost but WN. is far from dispanding. Some (useless?) corporations left but WN fleet numbers are still same, if not even higher than before those corps leaving.

    The real question is how long goons can keep up with their numbers, and when do they run out of maelmstroms with the rate they are losing those lately? We already seen some days goons falling under 300 and been fucking terrible when they don't have 5 vs 1 odds.

    Round one is over. Branch lost, Vale secured. Get ready for Round 2. War is just about to begin.

    January 9, 2012 at 12:47 pm Reply
    1. SANTA

      I would have to agree. Clearly goons picked an aresome time to make the attack and clearly WN never fully defended the region because they couldn't. Situation in WN has changed and is returning back to a fighting force.

      I am new in WN, but we fleeted 140 in a cta fleet in a really shit time. thats after loosing all those so called great corps. round 1 is over, now lets see if goons can keep up their steamrolling as fast as they did in branch.

      January 9, 2012 at 1:25 pm Reply
      1. Kratisto

        140 is a lot of dudes; by comparison in the goon "shit time" of your russian prime they could muster 400, 600, 900 dudes for the most important timers.

        You got this bro! also why did the defenders not fight when they had the advantage. I will never know.

        January 9, 2012 at 4:15 pm Reply
      2. lemmings

        those corps that left did fuck all anyway, they may have even failed the trial period. but tbh they ran to the side that looks like its winning atm like chicken shits, but the joke will be on them once cfc falls apart

        January 9, 2012 at 5:48 pm Reply
        1. guest

          you could also say WN failed THEIR trial period by, idunno not doing anything to protect some of the most valuable space in the game . Not exactly inspiring to see 1 cta in 2 weeks, which the alliance leader missed.

          January 9, 2012 at 11:00 pm Reply
    2. Forgot DRF blob

      Cuz obviously WN did not blob at all to get Branch.

      January 9, 2012 at 3:34 pm Reply
      1. anon

        NC could have counter blobbed but they didnt, the difference here is that WN cant out blob goons DRF is over

        January 9, 2012 at 3:59 pm Reply
      2. anonymous

        There were 50k people in the NC prior to the drf war and under 15 for the DRF. So no at that time it was not a blob in comparison.

        January 10, 2012 at 3:14 am Reply
    3. Imigo

      TL;DR: Another whine about blobs in the sov warfare "epic battles" part of the game.

      January 9, 2012 at 6:30 pm Reply
      1. you missed the point

        It's not whine about blobs. Its whine about original author calling it skill..

        If you have numbers of course you will use them. You not gona ask 500 dudes to stay home to have only 300 in fleet to get fair fight. But calling this offense tactic skill is just bad propaganda.

        January 10, 2012 at 11:50 am Reply
        1. Imigo

          So are you suggesting that organising large groups of individual gamers to get in a fleet and shoot boring structures when they could be roaming or making ISK takes no skill? Have you tried it?

          January 10, 2012 at 7:25 pm Reply
    4. Gotthingstodo

      War is not about being fair. It is about victory at any and all cost. It "is HELL" according to Gen. Sherman. do not complain about blobbing, accept that this is going to happen, move past the complaints and create a strategy to win against it.

      January 9, 2012 at 8:14 pm Reply
    5. BillyBob

      yeah, vale is real secure. I suppose there aren't any enemy tanks rolling through the streets of Baghdad either.

      January 10, 2012 at 2:05 am Reply
    6. Muhaha

      "Round one is over. Branch lost, Vale secured. Get ready for Round 2. War is just about to begin. "

      Hear this so many times it's not even funny any more. C'mon then … what are you waiting?

      January 10, 2012 at 9:34 am Reply
  15. shanbour

    you guys never learn. veteran pilots in goons and other major alliances when they log on its end game, ccp nerfed nullsec to allow smaller alliance to have a chance but the problem is that it doesnt matter the vets already there they already have there arsenals, you cant catch up unless they die of old age or quite eve. other than that. go to high sec and be a care bare thats the other option.

    January 9, 2012 at 1:04 pm Reply
    1. Scar

      What the hell are you on about ? That mindfart didn't provide any sort of comprehensive thought train regarding whatever it was you were trying to say. School . . . it actually does have a purpose bro.

      January 9, 2012 at 2:52 pm Reply
  16. droljica

    wuuuuut, Winter holidays are over for goons – ergo campaign over ?!?

    January 9, 2012 at 1:24 pm Reply
  17. Goonie Goon Goon

    DEKLEIN BEFORE FEBRUARY GOONIES!!

    I'm alreadying scheduling preemptive evac ops to Jita!!

    January 9, 2012 at 1:56 pm Reply
  18. MrsMolle

    Confirming blobbing = skill.

    January 9, 2012 at 2:15 pm Reply
    1. Yarbear

      Well, when you are invading an entire region with the goal to annihilate everything, then it is of course necessary to amass large "blob" fleets to do it. Keeping a blob organized and operating it efficiently takes a decent amount of FC skills, and the pilots in the blob need to know a small handful of fleet movement tactics as well to keep it from becoming a giant clusterfuck.

      GJ to the Goons. As much as I sometimes hate them, they do their job fairly well. Nevertheless, they always provide good entertainment.

      January 9, 2012 at 6:40 pm Reply
  19. A PUPPETMASTER

    is funny how riverini is able to make empty contenst 2 weeks old, and even wrong :O

    January 9, 2012 at 2:22 pm Reply
  20. Outsider

    V-N fight….
    Raiden dropped 30 odd titans and 10+ supercarriers, plus 80-100 Tengu's. If you look at the timestamps, In the first 5 minutes RDN/WN . lost 13 or so Tengu's. TEST+Co then decided to fucki it and go back in for a second go, knowing full well the Supercaps were there. It was a welp, but they knew that going into round 2.

    The Supercap problem is that the only real combat to Supercaps is a bigger superfleet, or 1000+ subcaps.
    Supercaps reach critical mass at about 5-10, where anything bigger than a BC will die in under 60 seconds, including sieged dreads, and a triage drug boosted archon might last an additional 30 seconds if it's not DD'd.
    Above 10, even Titans will die in under 5 minutes with that much incoming DPS.
    To take on 30-100 Supercaps and come close to winning by isk war, would require 200-500 normal caps, PLUS a similar sized subcap fleet, since only an idiot would not bring a support fleet now. (Or a supercap fleet of 100+ themselves, or the 1000+ blob of subcaps).
    Anything less than this, and the supercap fleet will likely hold the field and the isk war.

    January 9, 2012 at 2:57 pm Reply
    1. Captain Obvious

      So unless CFC can keep showing up 1000+ or bring a huge super fleet, which isn't something they are particularly known for, WN and Raiden. will just drop 30 titans and 70 SCs plus bring in a 300 man subcap fleet and stomp CFC each time?

      January 9, 2012 at 6:55 pm Reply
    2. Pointofview

      Time for some theory craft. What you say is sound but theres one problem with your story. Lets say 80 super carriers are on the field and 20 titans. Thats 100 supers available. Lets say there fighting against a mass blob of say 750 subcaps (something cfc can quite easily do.) Now lets say all 750 are in welp tempests (6 large autos 2 heavy neuts) 1 wing in that fleet can decap a super in 1-2 cycles of neuting. Now lets say that one wing just focused on 1 super, from damage applied that super would die in less then 2 minutes. Now again lets say that every wing in that 750 man fleet chose 1 super to focus for that specific wing instead of focus firing on one target at a time. That would be 15 supers dead in 2 minutes compared to about maybe 50-150 tempests. Granted this form of coordination is impossible for the cfc because it actually takes talent to pull off wing/squad targeting mechanics, the fact of the matter is if this played out the isk war would heavily go to the sub caps. The point that im making is that with currently how wartime mechanics and tactics are being used yes your correct the super blobs will win. Though my point of view is that if actual tactics are used instead of throwing farmers with pitchforks at tanks a super fleet can easily melt under such pressure. It all comes down to how fleets are led and unfortunatly there are no subcap fcs or fleet members to date that can follow simple instruction. All it would take is for each wing commander to start a new channel, invite everyone in his squad into it, make sure that channel stays clear, and when you land on grid with the supers the wc calls his appointed super that was given to him by the head fc that should be in a covops staring at the super fleet from a safe distance :P.

      January 9, 2012 at 6:56 pm Reply
  21. Wait wait wait. You can't honestly tell me that in the time since IO fell that A PUPPETMASTER's previous antics were forgotten and they let him pull off another stunt involving alliance politics?

    Meh. Can't say I didn't see it coming.

    Goons, serious congratualtions there. You said you were going to do something and you did it… a month early too by my calender. Can't wait to see your new shenanigans 😀

    January 9, 2012 at 5:06 pm Reply
  22. Nostrafreakingdomus

    People are dreaming if they think this is over and they can just "steamroll" vale and tenal. They may well win that war should they choose to start it – but it would come at a huge cost if ever. GSF/CFC has not engaged with even numbers UNLESS they get surprised in which case they "got blobbed". When they (GSF) blob something else it shows "skill", or when supers are fielded by their opponents – all thats heard is silence, tears and muted cries for cap nerfs (so 2011).

    From the BR's I've seen, aside from a few 7:1 initial engagements – the CFC side has roundly gotten their asses handed to them – and a few times they've gotten curb-stomped. Vale was a complete and utter failure and GSF steamrolled an undefended (albeit very valuable) region. Mittani declaring victory at this point is like George Bush declaring victory on that carrier so many years ago. He can declare all he wants – the facts on the ground show 1 failed campaign, 1 without an enemy, and a large number of whelps.

    January 9, 2012 at 5:57 pm Reply
    1. Imigo

      One fact on the ground that you missed is a whole lot of CFC members playing the game and shooting stuff, even when their opponent isn't showing up. K/D ratio doesn't necessarily equate to victory, and a few lost battles here and there mean nothing when every strategic goal has been reached.

      Here's hoping WN. get their shit together and start a campaign out of Venal to harass CFC operations. At least some fun will be had if they do.

      January 9, 2012 at 6:26 pm Reply
      1. guest

        heh, a goon leadership wishing for fun battles. Structure grinding does change a man.

        January 9, 2012 at 8:15 pm Reply
      2. Rascal

        Because they haven't already begun fighting?

        Seriously, is the goon intel network this bad?

        January 9, 2012 at 11:35 pm Reply
    2. Pointofview

      No, vale was a complete success. Little do you actually know in the ways of war to state that the operations done in vale was a failure. First off it forced a two front war for both wn and raiden, one in which i can guarentee had alot to do with a full rally and push in branch. Even though wn was already having inner termoil, being attacked on all sides is a huge moral kill and im sure had alot to do with furthering there inner problems. Also considering it forced raiden to chose where to deploy in mass quantity, it deviated raiden assets from being any more further assistance in branch. One would say they left branch to burn because wn was useless, but yet here they are fighting hand in hand in vale.

      Now comes tenal. Raiden, wn and co will have to decide whether to defend tenal and venal holdings or have vale be the last stand. If they try to defend both there horribly going to lose for the following simple facts…
      1.) There incredibly out numbered
      2.) No PL to save them as pl is occupied with the xdeath/solar war
      3.) There supers cannot be at every reinforce timer at once forcing them to pick and choose
      4.) They could easily win a bunch of fights but it wont matter. Its like using a fly swatter against locusts, sure youll get a handful but youll just eventually get overwhelmed.

      So a failed campaign? Learn how war works there you nub and realize the victors in war are dictated by the spoils won, not the small skirmishes. On a final note… CFC welp fleets all the time, its there MO, so to chest beat or winning fights against them just makes for luls at your expense lol.

      January 9, 2012 at 6:35 pm Reply
      1. svinjce

        You Sir have no idea what was actually happening, but instead chose to substitute reality with your own :)

        There was no 2 front war, goons and pets invaded Branch while TEST were making a half-serious push into Vale. WN. did not engage cuz 150man fleet can only lose against 900man fleet, so tell me why would they? Add to that the fact that goons and pets were sorting logistics for this war for a few months, while WN was caught with their pants down. Vale was not even in WN mind at that moment.

        Now, when there are no WN assets in Branch, WN visited Vale and evicted TEST within 2-3 days.

        Raiden did not also consider Vale events worth thinking about cuz nothing even remotely dangerous for them was happening at that moment. Raiden also did not assist in Branch cuz there was nothing to be assisted (check above).

        The war continues, despite the fact that you wish it will not :)

        January 9, 2012 at 7:05 pm Reply
        1. lol

          WN. evicted TEST? Surely you don't mean Raiden?

          Nice job stealing credit from your allies. Maybe that's why no one else came to help.

          January 10, 2012 at 4:52 pm Reply
    3. Karma

      Didn't WN and friends do the same to numerous others? Shoes on the other foot and now WN is taking it in the ass.

      January 9, 2012 at 8:11 pm Reply
    4. Lube

      how about some cup of shutthefuckup?
      http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/inf

      January 9, 2012 at 8:40 pm Reply
  23. TexasFire
    January 9, 2012 at 6:11 pm Reply
  24. nullsecnub

    So most the remnants of the old republic are swept away and a new galactic empire has taken its place.

    January 9, 2012 at 6:40 pm Reply
  25. Stalin IV

    Comrades, men of Red Alliance and White Noise, commanders and political instructors,
    working men and working women, collective farmers – men and women, workers in the
    intellectual professions, brothers and sisters in the rear of our enemy who have
    temporarily fallen under the yoke of the Goonie Apesd, and our valiant men and
    women guerillas who are destroying the rear of the Goonie invaders!

    The perfidious attack of the Goonie brigands and the war which has been forced upon us have placed our lands in jeopardy. e have temporarily lost a number of regions, the enemy has appeared at the gates of Vale and Drone Regions. The enemy reckoned that after the very first blow our army would be dispersed, and our Alliances would be forced to its knees.

    But the enemy sadly miscalculated. In spite of the temporary reverses our fleets are heroically
    repulsing the enemy's attacks along the whole front and inflicting heavy losses upon him,
    while our collective alliances formed itself into one fighting camp to provide order,

    The lazy English speaking pigdogs (Polaris Rising) have been expelled from our ranks and we shall now march forward to victory.

    January 9, 2012 at 6:51 pm Reply
    1. DarthNefarius

      Reminds me of how Stalin before Stalingrade thought he was going to be killed by his own becuase all his big fuck ups at the beginning of WW2
      So is the Drone Regions going to be the new Stalingrad? I dunno Looks like Goons already got all the oil fields in form of the Tech Moons & the Drone Region is only usefull for botters.

      January 9, 2012 at 7:28 pm Reply
  26. Qwerty4812

    branch was easy… pushing into tenal… well tenal will be bloody.. both sides will suffer massive losses at tenal, raiden won't give up like WN.

    on a second note, all you whining crying little bitches about how goons outnumber people in war. Would u like me to quote Mittani "war isn't about having fun, war isn't about good fights, and it certainly isn't about k/d ratio, war is about making ur enemy miserable and unwilling to log on to defend." Stop crying, welcome to war

    In war, if you have a *goodfight* where both sides lose a lot, your doing something terribly wrong, if u plan things correctly, it should be a steamroll, thats war, get used to it

    January 9, 2012 at 7:07 pm Reply
    1. Imigo

      Shhh, don't tell them that. Let them whine and complain about how unskilled and unfair the blob is and not actually do anything about it.

      January 10, 2012 at 6:10 am Reply
      1. anonymous

        Yet goons whine about the super blob and how unfair it is. Hypocricy at its finest.

        January 10, 2012 at 6:53 am Reply
        1. Imigo

          Difference is that supers are game tokens, fleet sizes are human nature. CCP can tweak one and have absolutely no control over the other.

          January 10, 2012 at 9:23 am Reply
          1. Svinjche

            Why are supers not human nature as well? People flying them have gone thru years of effort to train and afford one, and should be flying them whenever they want to.

            With so many pilots in CFC I am really wondering what was the deal with your supers production? In 4 months you were preparing to invade Branch, you could amassed a super fleet that could counter those of WN and of Raiden, not to mention if you had any serious efforts on getting a big super fleet over the longer period. You did probably built them as well, but they ended up sold for different types of currencies. How else could explain the lack of supers in CFC since you are holding your current regions and tech moons for years? Without any serious wars, CFC could have even purchased supers from other alliances with all the tech they sold.

            Just like with Norther Coalition, have the grunts in blobs do your dirty work who are grateful that they can farm in good space and try to build your military strength on individual members flying subcaps, while leaders fill their RL wallets…

            I see you are gonna start bitching now how Russian alliances are biggest RMT-er in game, but dare tell here is all isk revenue in CFC accounted for and why you do not posses numbers of supers when you could have built them?

            January 10, 2012 at 10:05 am
          2. rara

            Feel free to check out GSF's completely open balance sheets, and to take note of the huge subcap reimbursement program that GSF runs. We use tech to make EVE (somewhat) fun for all of our low-SP pilots, so that the average member doesn't have to rat for 3 hours to pay for every ship they lose.

            January 10, 2012 at 1:32 pm
          3. rara

            Also the CFC does have quite a sizable super fleet despite the above, with upwards of 60 titans, so perhaps you should be considering where YOUR alliance's income has gone.

            January 10, 2012 at 1:32 pm
          4. Svinjche

            Nice, show us GSF's balance sheets then, I am eager to confirm that every isk is accounted for. Also on the subject, I am not talking about passive costs such as ships reimbursement, I am wondering how come you did not get more supers with all that cash? As for my alliance, I see you are not very acquainted with its organization and be sure that alliance income is well used and was used – just recall all the bitching about the supers numbers.

            January 10, 2012 at 1:42 pm
          5. rara

            https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?pli=1&amp

            GSF was the first major alliance in the game to open its books, to my knowledge. I also have no idea what labeling reimbursements as 'passive' is supposed to accomplish — as you can see, it is a very large expense for an alliance of GSF's size, at 75billion/mo.

            January 10, 2012 at 3:11 pm
          6. svinjce

            Good show, in those balance sheet you can write whatever you want as an expense and label it in whatever way you want, and you expect someone to take that for granted i believe?

            75bil of reimbursement/month – yeah right. Cross my hear and hope to die… Empty figures, nothing else.

            January 10, 2012 at 8:52 pm
          7. BobFromMarketing

            I demand to see your ledgers!
            I will not fact check these one bit but because you produced them at all I will declare them false! Ha! I have you now!

            January 10, 2012 at 9:31 pm
          8. rara

            I'm going to assume that you're unaware of Peacetime Reimbursement. GSF reimburses (nearly) all PvP losses of its members, whether they're on a strategic op or not. I can go roaming around Venal on a whim, get myself killed, and have the alliance pay for the ship. This makes EVE slightly more tolerable than having to save up for a new ship every time you decide to actually play the game. With 7000+ members, a policy like that becomes expensive.

            Also, if you weren't going to believe the numbers anyway, why be a dick and ask me to look them up for you?

            January 11, 2012 at 4:11 am
          9. Svinjche

            Cuz I expected some valid figures and documented expenditures, and there are none in these sheets. Also, FYI the issue of what and when is reimbursed is not the question in here, its about where do all the revenues go, and these sheets do not show that.
            Additionally, no one in their clear state of mind would show how an ally spend their money, cuz it would become obvious how much supers they have, what is their rate of production and so forth. Therefore you should assume yourself that these balance sheets do not reflect the realty – and that opens a whole new chapter of where do exactly the moneys go… Thus, stop suggesting that goon balance is open for everyone, cuz it would be plain stupidity to do so.

            January 11, 2012 at 9:04 am
          10. rara

            Yeah, SHOW US THE LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE

            January 11, 2012 at 1:05 pm
          11. Imigo

            *Wanting to fly* supers is human nature, but supercapital internet spaceships are not.

            January 10, 2012 at 7:22 pm
          12. svinjce

            Bulls***

            January 10, 2012 at 8:52 pm
          13. Imigo

            Are you for real?

            Are you seriously suggesting that the number of hit points or resist profile or PG/CPU data of spaceships are dictated by human nature. Alternatively, are you suggesting that CCP have some control to change human nature, not just to provide incentives based on it?

            Your "Bulls***" response leaves a lot of ambiguity as to what exactly your dysfunctional reasoning is.

            January 11, 2012 at 5:46 am
          14. Svinjche

            Lets just all fly rifters with same fittings and same skillpoints then, and have a rule that hostile fleet can fight only a defending fleet of equal number and vice versa…

            January 11, 2012 at 9:05 am
          15. Imigo

            WTF are you on?!?

            I'm simply pointing out the difference between what comes about by human nature (large numbers of players in a fleet of any kind) and what comes about by the design of game tokens (the stats of ships of any kind).

            Somehow you're taking that as… TBH I have no fucking clue what you're on about.

            January 11, 2012 at 10:03 am
          16. Svinjche

            Supers as well as everything else is a game token (with supers needing more effort to acquire and fly), and both are used cuz of human nature (as you have defined it). This, there is no difference between the two.

            January 11, 2012 at 10:23 am
          17. Svinjche

            Also, a game token is a monocle and similar stuff which can not be used interactively in a sandbox game with other people.

            January 11, 2012 at 10:24 am
          18. Imigo

            Yes, another example of a game token is a monocle. *golfclap*

            January 11, 2012 at 6:49 pm
          19. Imigo

            "Yet goons whine about the super blob and how unfair it is."

            This was what I was responding to. Nobody whined about players chosing to use them (the human nature part), the complaint (which was not unique to Goons by any stretch) was that the game tokens are (were) overpowered and near on indestructible without more supers (which was no fun and therefore bad for the game).

            So, complaining about blobs (human nature) and supers (game tokens) are VERY different things.

            January 11, 2012 at 6:48 pm
          20. Svinjche

            Depends what is your side doing. If you are blobbing, its fun for you. If you are using supers, that is fun for you. If you are being blobbed, it is not fun to you. Of you are being killed by supers it is not fun for you.

            There is no countermeasure in eve to blobs apart from confronting them with supers. Also, bunch of supers can be killed by large subcap fleet supported by suppers, but you have never tried to do that.

            If you remove supers, then there will absolutely be no game mechanics on how to deal with blobs. Now, you can still combine resources, pilots and tactics to achieve victory for yourself, no matter if you are blobbing with subcaps or supers.

            Removing suppers will kill the game also, lot of people will not be playing anymore the game which is based on higher numbers and not on tactics and resources (strategy). Add to that the Dominion introduced sov mechanics, and people will lose even more interest for eve.

            You want the suppers removed? Remove ability to use blobs of subcaps for fights.

            January 12, 2012 at 10:30 am
          21. Imigo

            "but you have never tried to do that" "You want the suppers removed?"

            First of all, fuck off with telling me what I have or haven't tried (you have no clue) and asserting that I've said things I haven't said.

            Tried to write more but the site is freaking out at being overloaded with text or something. Good thing too, I really should start avoiding conversations with idiots. (Bombs counter blobs btw)

            January 13, 2012 at 9:21 am
          22. Svinjche

            Its not about simple words, its about their meaning. One thing is plain words, the other is their interpretation and true purpose. If you do not believe supers should be removed/nerfed, say so clearly.

            Furthermore, finishing a conversation by calling the other person idiot in fact show that you can not act as a reasonable person and makes you succumb into idiocy yourself.

            Btw bombs rarely counter blobs due to environment full of lag in which majority of fight happen (even in reinforced nodes), but you knew that already.

            January 13, 2012 at 11:05 am
          23. Imigo

            If you do not believe the Earth should blow up, say so clearly. Does that mean if I haven't clearly said that I do not believe the Earth should blow up that I support blowing the world up? Really?

            Difference here is that you've MISinterpreted any purpose (quite wildly I might add) and represented my meaning as something completely different to any reasonable interpretation of what I've said.

            If you're going to make stuff up and attribute it to me, there's not much point in me wasting time trying to converse with you.

            January 13, 2012 at 6:46 pm
    2. sour

      seek professional help qwerty

      January 10, 2012 at 3:39 pm Reply
  27. herpaderp

    SSSOOOOOOOOOOO blobbing with 1000+ men is worse than blobbing with 100 SC as WN+allies used to?
    bitches, please

    January 9, 2012 at 7:18 pm Reply
    1. wtf bro

      u do realize you look 12 in your picture…

      January 11, 2012 at 7:48 am Reply
  28. Gumpin

    Confirming that APUPPETMASTER is the greatest troll of 2011 and 2012.

    January 9, 2012 at 8:44 pm Reply
    1. A PUPPETMASTER

      you welcome bro

      January 11, 2012 at 12:06 am Reply
  29. -A- vet

    s with any allaince full of carebears …. member will gtfo when they cant bear anymore. I give it 2 weeks tops before IRC is rolfstomped

    January 9, 2012 at 9:08 pm Reply
  30. Only questions remains is whether CFC can finish the former DRF off before GTA V is released and participation will plummet.

    January 9, 2012 at 9:12 pm Reply
  31. Anom

    for whatever reason when i see CFC i think of "Cuntry Fried Chicken"

    ..

    January 9, 2012 at 10:08 pm Reply
    1. truefacts

      Now I'm hungry for a bucket of cunts.

      January 9, 2012 at 10:50 pm Reply
      1. Marcus_McTavish

        There are a lot in Branch IMO

        January 10, 2012 at 11:34 pm Reply
    2. lol

      wow, this post makes riverini look like a professional newswriter

      January 10, 2012 at 4:54 pm Reply
  32. Anom

    for whatever reason when i see CFC i think of "Cuntry Fried Chicken"

    January 9, 2012 at 10:12 pm Reply
  33. Bitterer Vet

    so what the fuck is it with Gentlemen's Agreement getting so much decent space in branch? They don't even show up on half the kills for shooting down the sov structures in that campaign, and then they do it's usually 1 or 2 members at most in a 200 man fleet ffs!

    On their own forums they're slapping their own backs some members describing themselves as CFC's 'Special Forces' (although I guess the 'special' could be meant as in the shortbus term).

    They're still in self-congratulationary mode from beating up on IEGEX several months back, and now planning on beating up on another of the shitier alliances like themselves, The Jagged Alliance.

    Personally, I hope them come up against an alliance who actually knows a little about PvP and lake gets the asshole ripped out of him :)

    January 10, 2012 at 12:51 am Reply
    1. ex-NC

      +1

      January 10, 2012 at 12:43 pm Reply
    2. Kratisto

      it probably has something to do with Lake doing a lot of FCing for the campaign. While one might argue that certainly 2 such high truesec and station-laden constellations is a bit much for Gents, the only other good claim other than goons is RZR, who must have plans for another region nearby if not branch.

      Also, Cloud ring is some of the worst space in the game, with pure blind following a close second. that is probably why some people are looking for greener pastures that everyone else already has.

      January 11, 2012 at 7:36 pm Reply
    3. Super Gent

      Gents are in a good spot – valued by our allies and under-estimated by our enemies.

      Haters like this just feed our resolve.

      January 13, 2012 at 12:19 am Reply
  34. derp

    Puppet Master is rmfhorus. He has a long history of shitting up alliances.

    January 10, 2012 at 2:33 am Reply
  35. nameistooshort

    shit goon propaganda again….

    January 10, 2012 at 5:30 am Reply
  36. Bitter Vet

    Smart players have kept 80+% of their personal assets safe regardless of which side of the coalition war they are on. I'll stay rich no matter who wins in the end! Another Bob, IT, Goonies, DRF or WHATEVER will rise…this is EVE….and one or more of my many toons will apply and rise with it…..and so on….until I tire of Eve and quit…..that my dear friends is the truth of it!

    January 10, 2012 at 6:51 am Reply
    1. Muhaha

      Ok, now go make me a sandwich

      January 10, 2012 at 9:21 am Reply
    2. cucubau

      farmer

      January 10, 2012 at 9:36 am Reply
  37. Gunny

    Goons took branch and everybodies mad? What the hell else were they supposed to do? Stay dormant? with one of the largest fastest growing Alliances, Mitty made the right move keeping his troops busy. Everybody here would have done the same thing, so stop the shit posting. At least they didn't call PL too help like somebody else.

    January 10, 2012 at 12:33 pm Reply
    1. nameistooshort

      Hey guys, goons didnt call for MORE help to steamroll an empty undefended region, they are so pro.

      I'm sure goons had a long consideration of hiring mercs to help them take over an empty region…

      P.s. you're must be blind and ignorant if you think anyones mad about branch, its just funny seeing goons proclaiming a major victor on this one, I'm sure the bragging will go on for ages.

      And serious question. Have goons taken any space that actually wasn't abandoned or near collapse due to some other than fighting shit?

      January 10, 2012 at 1:01 pm Reply
      1. Marcus_McTavish

        Not that i can really remember, Delve i guess.
        Delk was the coffin of TC.
        Test was born of the bones of IT, in space not people.

        January 10, 2012 at 11:32 pm Reply
  38. Nobody

    Well, as antecipeted, PL/NC. left Feith, without any good fights (IF you can consider the usual hotdrop a bc with tens of supers and titans a ggod fight) and we are already retaking all SOV we have lost, without any expressive loss.

    Man, that´s boring.

    Actually, after they left, we finally had a good fight ! A 10 man bc/hac/recon gang attacked our system, we fought back, lost some, killed some, and got some good 10 minutes pew pew ! Without hotdrops ! It was so amazing that we cheered the guys in local, for bringing fun back. And they agreed ! We promissed to make a visit to then later this week.

    Really ? Is that dificult to have fun with this game ? We need to wait two frakking weeks till the supercapital blob to move on so we can have fun again ?

    Good hunt.

    Nobody

    January 10, 2012 at 1:49 pm Reply
  39. Kismeteer

    Made an animated picture on the capture of delve: http://i.imgur.com/YIzUl.gif

    January 10, 2012 at 2:55 pm Reply
    1. herpderp

      delve and branch are easily mixed … he, no, wait … delve did not get conquered so easily … remember NOL ?

      January 11, 2012 at 2:08 pm Reply
  40. " "

    HEY LOOK SHIVA (EX-MM) AND THE KNIGHTS TEMPLAR (EX-RAGE) ARE IN WN.
    LOL FAGGOTS HAVE YOU NO SHAME

    January 10, 2012 at 3:49 pm Reply
    1. ....

      Shame in what? Looks to me like shiva and tkt just wanted to get back into pvp..

      January 11, 2012 at 5:06 am Reply
  41. Anom

    lol.. its true.. any comment that is pro goons gets a +1 and thing anti goons gets a -1.

    haters gonna hate.. atleast most of the goonie goo go's are.. new and improved "condensed assholes in a can" probably already past its best before date..

    January 10, 2012 at 4:00 pm Reply
  42. […] White Noise ally Raiden was handed to some systems on the east.  As they put it over at EVE 24, Mission Accomplished.  And I was able to help in my own small way at the start and the very end.  They also serve, who […]

    January 10, 2012 at 5:56 pm
  43. […] White Noise ally Raiden was handed to some systems on the east.  As they put it over at EVE 24, Mission Accomplished.  And I was able to help in my own small way at the start and the very end.  They also serve, who […]

    January 10, 2012 at 6:25 pm

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