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The following piece was sent yesterday through our dropbox after our article detailing the standing reset between Legion of xXDEATHXx and SOLAR FLEET, is is written from very strong point of view, is meant to bring a bit more of context to the current conflict within the Drone Regions.

Raging View: On the Drone Regions.

I decided to write some words about the Drone regions after I had reading conflicting comments both in Eve News24 and other sites. I hope my history lessons will not be too boring and you will appreciate my noobish and obviously biased analysis.

The Archduke Ferdinand moment of the next Drone Regions War may have recently occurred. Which specific event is hard to say, but there have been a number of incidents recently that to many may seem isolated and of little import but any one of which may a year from now be pointed to as the spark that started it all.

To total outsiders, it appears that two inscrutable arms of the bottling monolith, the dreaded DRF, have gotten into a squabble over stolen assets and bruised egos.

To the Euro-American client state, Intrepid Crossing, the real story seems more to be about a rogue renter corp that briefly tried to form an independent alliance within Shadow space. This upstart group quickly reintegrated back into Shadow of xDeathx’s fold before IRC SBU’d their system with Legion of xXDeathXx’s blessing.

To the some schemers in the renter alliance Shadow, everything up to this point has been a series of feints and maneuvers designed to provoke Solar Fleet, Solar Wing and Intrepid Crossing into resetting them in order to attack the guerilla corp within their ranks, only to be surprised by the counter strike of the full force of the rest of the Shadow renter corps. To the leadership of Legion, the plotting of their militarily ineffectual pets in Shadow are a convenient excuse to move the non-Russian-speaking IRC out of valuable systems, so their human pilots can be replaced with Russian botters. And to UaxDeath’s good friend the Mittani, whose goons have been secretly staging out of IAMJ and other xDeathx systems, this is the thin edge of the blade that will create a second “thunderdome/freeport” space, in his bid to reshape all of eve according to his own personal theories of game design.

But what will actually come of it all is bound to defy the expectations of all involved, for in war, the future clouds up and all bets are off.

What a barrage of belt analytics! Let us talk about the IRC, an alliance of No value and vile dreams!

“two inscrutable arms of the bottling monolith, the dreaded DRF”

– I like this! Really, this sounds great. But most part of former DRF (all russians players particularly) considers DRF disbanded. I can also mention that it was disbanded the very day that WhiteNoise. reset Shadow of xXDeathXx. And no, DRF never was monolithic.

“rogue renter corp that briefly tried to form an independent alliance within Shadow space” –

Rogue? No. Briefly tried? No. Independent? Nonsense! There was never any misunderstanding between UAxDeath and Jariman. What there really was – the desire to have more war targets for a rather big corporation without creation of embarassing and potentially dangerous situations for Legion or Shadow. The goal of creation of alliance named “No value” is to give a very limited freedom to active and ambitious corp. Why limited? They still pay rent, may not attack neighbors and some other alliances and, of course, have to obey Legion’s direct orders. Not to mention that new alliance has to get the blue standing of his own.

This is most dramatic point. No Value’s diplomats (funny name, right?) send identical requests to all alliances they want to get blue plusses (IRC was not in that list, btw). Red Alliance, Bloodbound, United Pod Service, Moon tribe, Subzero, Voodoo and other drone dwellers set positive standing to No value. All who left – IRC and Solars (Solars were first to receive the request). So, while waiting the Solar’s answer, fresh “dependent” anglo-italian-russian alliance decides to do some pew-pew with IRC. Some battles follow with different outcomes. As the answer to the rightful question from IRC: “WTF?”, No Value’s leader (again, this sounds funny but in fact, it is serious) contacts IRC high command. They quickly form a gentlemen’s agreement: a) both sides are encouraged to actively “happyroam” eachother in order to keep carebears in a good shape and for fun; b) structure shooting, gatecamping, cloack ships for 24/7 and other heavy infrastructure disrupting activities are not allowed for both sides; c) standing will not be set blue, but both sides must respect each other. Some battles follow, again with different outcomes.

Meanwhile in Russia… Oh, wai… Meanwhile in 4AZV-W (Outer Passage) situation gets hotter. Some Solars also want some pew-pew. It would be great, but under very different circumstances. Let us remember, what is going on. New alliance is waiting for blue standing. New alliance sets positive standing to all future allies unilaterally – this means they are neutral from other’s point of view (sic!) New alliance is involved in “honorable war” with IRC and farms “gf” in local. Except for this war (and of course for homedefence) all No Value’s PVP activity is suspended. They do not fly to Red’s, Legion’s or Solar’s space. Of course, to get to IRC they have to fly through Solar space, but they just fly. Now tell me, in this situation, how to react to future’s ally desire to do pew-pew? Of course – let them have some fun!

The result of this pew-pew : KILLMAIL. GF and all that stuff.

But does No Value get an adequate reaction? No.

All they receive is a cloacked ship in their home system, a camped gate and somewhat bizzare reaction from Solars. No value is still fighting IRC and still waiting for the blue standing from others.

I hope, you get a good picture of what was happening. Now tell me, why, in Nine Hells, MACTEP does not set positive standing towards No value? Personally, I do not know. As I mentioned earlier, he is quite… umm… emotional after the quit of his logistics director Bigmaman and the quit of Elderans. But are you a good politician if you let your emotions affect your actions? Only if you have more raw power than anybody else in the game.

So, seeing that they do not receive positive standings from Solars in the near future, No value cease fire with IRC (attention please – this is the last time IRC is involved in this conflict) and begin to roam Solar space in hope of getting some gf. The answer to this actions is qute overpowered – a fullscale Solar fleet destroys a POS. My dear Solar friends – all we want is blue standings in the first place and some gf in second – please, do not escalate this conflict any further. But is there a rational answer? NO.

So, it turns out now that new small alliance called No value has to face one of the oldest and experienced alliance in the east of New Eden. Is there a way to do it? Of course there is! Listen up, I tell you how to win in this hard situation. First, give your carebears a choice – stay in new alliance or apply to a corporation in Shadows. Second, transfer to that corp all your systems and stations and stuff. Third, get finally those blasted blue standings from your allies. Voila! Your enemies (Solar fleet and Co in our case) find themselves living in an NPC space – you can dock in almost all stations, use JB network and you have your carebears fuelling your war expenses. Quickly – grab your SB and BO and start the mayhem.
The most notable results of this tactics:

KILLMAIL (of course, he got all that stuff from selling PLEX’es, two others machariels manage to escape)

KILLMAIL (this corp of 5 persons loses three or four carriers in a single week)

KILLMAIL (do not mine with neutrals present in local)

There is also countless ravens, machariels, carriers and tengus… All that costs 80+ billions, not counting destroyed implants. And all that fun can cost you just 18 billions. Note, that most victims are carebears from Solar wing.

The only person that could stop this madness at any time is MACTEP, leader of Solar fleet. No value sent up to four requests for ceasefire and got either nothing or hidden insults. Now, when carebears from Solar wing got very angry, MACTEP has to do something. And instead of diplomatic talks he chooses to reset Shadow of death. The Solar fleet enters No Value Staging system – 4AZV-W – and reinforces the outpost and iHUB (they belong to Shadow’s corp – remember that No value had transferred carebearing characters back to Shadow?) Legion of Death is given an ultimatum – drive No value out of droneregions, or there will be something bad.

This leads us to current situation.

As you can see, no goons are involved, the role of IRC is overestimated and this fuss is purely internal Droneregions affair.

There are many question yet: What if Neocortex Industries enters Legion of Death? (riverini’s note: they did a few hours ago). What will SOLAR FLEET do in this case? Challenge Legion of xXDeathXx or plainly shut up? Do they have the balls to start a war? Do they have a chance to win?

we do just don’t know yet.

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  1. Former NC

    What's the tl:dr?

    December 9, 2011 at 9:38 am Reply
    1. TL;DR: Shit got real in the former soviet bloc, point of no return long passed behind…

      December 9, 2011 at 9:41 am Reply
      1. Former NC

        Cheers. I was seriously getting a headache from all the testosterone in that article.

        December 9, 2011 at 9:42 am Reply
        1. YAY!

          just make sure they don't have a common enemy till they tear them self's apart

          The Drone Russian Federation Civil war gas begun

          December 9, 2011 at 10:51 am Reply
  2. .....

    stopped reading after And to UaxDeath’s good friend the Mittani, whose goons have been secretly staging out of IAMJ and other xDeathx systems, this is the thin edge of the blade that will create a second “thunderdome/freeport” space, in his bid to reshape all of eve according to his own personal theories of game design. This is full of shit.

    What I believe happend was they guy who stole 900b got accepted by XiX after Solar told evryone not to recruit him. Then some shitty renter corp/alliance from XiX takes space near Solar, they did nothing but piss solar of until 200 man solar fleet sbu there system. XiX takes the main corp that held the sov back in its ranks so if solar was attacking they would be attacking XiX space. But the corp that was attacking solar could still base out of the system. UAxDeath did nothing but provoke this fight and it has nothing to do with IRC. its fun though looking from the sidlines seeing that UAxDeath picked the wrong fight when all they got is 50-80 man kitchen sink fleets vs 200 man solar.

    December 9, 2011 at 9:49 am Reply
    1. am told this is just the tip of the iceberg, there is a bomb about to explode in the Eve forums and as many things russian, it got RMT in it.


      December 9, 2011 at 9:55 am Reply
      1. TESTie

        i think evoke can attest to the fact that goons are not staging in the north

        December 9, 2011 at 11:22 am Reply
        1. Ungoon

          Don´t know ew0ks point of view, but last attempts in NOL didn´t look like like goons where actually "present". They can´t be that fail… or… can they? Shit.

          December 9, 2011 at 12:57 pm Reply
          1. 0noes

            Oh god….. your troll, its so fail!

            December 9, 2011 at 1:46 pm
      2. anatlasgoon


        December 9, 2011 at 11:31 am Reply
      3. Glenn

        I wonder who has more bots Solar or Legion of Death, opinions ?

        December 9, 2011 at 11:41 am Reply
        1. DED

          Unknown. but i see many bots in Solar wing space. it's simple – look statistic on DOTLAN. NPC kills and jump in sys.

          December 9, 2011 at 11:11 pm Reply
    2. bugaga

      I agree.
      1. Re bigmaman (the guy who stole 900 b). – Accepting a traitor is an act of treason.
      2. Re corp that went out from and then back to XlX. – If we look up the term 'an agreesion' in international law, we see that providing territory for an agression is an agression itself.
      So XlX got what they wanted.

      December 9, 2011 at 11:36 am Reply
    3. Ron thorne

      It's true, goons haven't been staging out of xdeath space, this is infact probably a goon writing that post in the first place, in some awful fail attempt to make waves.

      Heres the thing, Mittani would like nothing better then to see the russians split in two, and fight eachother, this would make his blue empire the biggest coailition, even though the argument could be made two months after MM left tribute that they already were. DRF did disband months ago, this is why you haven't seen solar, or legion fighting -A- & co. It's not thier war, it's RA, WN, and raidendot's war. Couldn't tell you why NCdot is out there, but I'm pretty sure it's not b/c they were asked (by RA/WN/Raidendot) for help, more then likly they just want to keep thier pilots entertained.

      When it's all said, and done UAxDeath has let No value start shit with his blues, then once No value found out they were way over thier heads, they tried to hide in plain sight behind UAxDeath, and UAxDeath let them.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:51 am Reply
  3. ThenItookanarrow

    So what if this conflict escalates. who's considered to be the more powerfull alliance…

    December 9, 2011 at 10:23 am Reply
    1. some dude

      xDeath and Solar are fairly evenly matched. But if Raiden, NCdot and IRC get pulled in, things could get complicated.

      December 9, 2011 at 3:28 pm Reply
    2. anatlasgoon

      Solar is honestly the more solid PvP element. The problem with XiX is, though they have 8000 members in Shadow, most of them are bots. Only a small fraction can so much as fit a point.

      The conflict gets complicated only if IRC gets bored. The other DRF elements (RA/RDN/WN/NC.) have already stated that they will stay out unless XiX and IRC dogpile Solar. Sounds like IRC is doing the smart thing by staying out, unfortunately. There's few things I like to see more than Russian on Russian violence.

      December 9, 2011 at 8:51 pm Reply
      1. qwert

        in Shadow alliance about 3000 English speaking members.

        December 11, 2011 at 9:28 am Reply
      2. Juice

        I think the fact that UAxDeath and the mitani have such a well knowen friendship alone doesn't bode well for XiX.

        With XiX being so friendly with goons, I think it's fair to assume which side of the fence NCdot, and Raidendot would fall on if goons made a show of force, and i'm sure they are just waiting for goons to make a move. Idk about IRC, but I was always under the impression they were closer to solar, then XiX. I don't care to venture to guess what RA, and WN. would do.

        If nobody takes a side solarfleet should wipe the floor with them, they have always been a better "PvP" alliance, and like you said 8k pilots in alliance means more like 2500 real people, maybe less, and are more then likly renting space b/c they have no intrest in sov. warfare. Have to ask yourself, if sov. warfare is not your thing, why in new eden would you be paying UAxDeath for the privilege to fight for him? Two or three fleet wipes to solarfleet and that militia group will just stop showing up.

        December 11, 2011 at 11:28 pm Reply
  4. Headerman

    Tl;Dr, we are bored, and want to shoot things.

    December 9, 2011 at 10:24 am Reply
    1. Trapped

      So you guys are doing the same thing FA and TEST did? Having a little slap fight out of boredom?

      Usually shooting blues out of boredom doesn't involve actually attacking their sov, but maybe things are different for russian types.

      Remind me of that if I ever find myself blue to you guys O.o;;

      December 9, 2011 at 11:15 am Reply
      1. TESTie

        tbh, we never engaged in shitty sov warfare with fa

        December 9, 2011 at 11:21 am Reply
  5. You know whats funnier a few months ago my corp left Sev3rance to join one of the russian pets in drone space, I refused and left (To be banned and redded a bit later accused of espionage), the reasons I mentioned then, that it was going to be a hellhole once the russians would turn back on one another are turning out to become true

    December 9, 2011 at 10:45 am Reply
    1. Ron thorne

      So you were avoiding PvP, understood….. Who the hell is afraid of wars breaking out in EvE…. Highsec is that way >>>>>

      December 10, 2011 at 2:22 am Reply
  6. bugaga

    Why author believes that MACTEP's reaction is inadecvate? If MACTEP have to follow this corp's wish for good roaming?
    Let's say someone punch another person in the nose in order to get a gf (but no more). Another person's reaction should be limited to punching in the nose only? No kicking, no shooting?

    December 9, 2011 at 11:29 am Reply
    1. qwert

      All be ok. Solar kill Neocortex. Neocortex killing Solar's. But destroyng CSAA and take system who have claim Shadow – it's inadecvating reaction (if you don't want war of course )

      December 11, 2011 at 9:26 am Reply
  7. anatlasgoon

    Frankly, I'm on the fence. On one hand, No Value was just looking for GFs, and Solar Fleet got madbro for no good reason. Not very tactful on Solar's part. But on the other hand, 0.0 is pretty nasty, and if you piss into the wind, you might get wet. Maybe No Value should've thought about that before roaming Solar space.

    December 9, 2011 at 11:42 am Reply
    1. Okay

      Well, we make a short excursion into the history of the conflict with SOLAR kb:
      The first kills from new alliance No value –
      We see how brave former Legion's renters tenants kill aggressive SOLAR noctis. Note the time – 2011.10.29 17:02
      Nearly three hours later, fresh-baked alliance suffered the first losses. Heroic ares was killed in a battle with the xdeath pos, which was apparently reprogrammed by SOLAR saboteurs.

      December 9, 2011 at 2:54 pm Reply
      1. Voland007

        This Noctis was returned in money +50% in 2 minutes after kill. Pilot and all who was in system may say this, It's true. Was lag, no more. Stand from No Value was to solar was + in one side. and all wait.
        Loki solar fleet was first in this conflict. In home system No value, after aggro on carib Rokh was killed and podded, That's normal reaction.

        About IRC. i happy say now – i like IRC and i like have GF with IRC Homedefence fleet. We have really intresting battles and tactics. We fly on IRC territories 1.5 years to Venal and may say only thx for support :) IRC – alliance who have potential, i think in future,

        I have no idea what heppend and why MACTER don't want +stand in last month. May be this war was in planning ?

        December 9, 2011 at 11:05 pm Reply
  8. Moon Pirate

    heh. Sounds more like a crappy little pet of no value (and appropriately named), thought they could randomly play with the big boys and got shown the door. How many systems will legion/shadow lose to solar before those mental slow egomanicas are evicted by xdeath?

    December 9, 2011 at 1:11 pm Reply
  9. sdfdsfs

    bro irc will be blue to no value when solar puts them blue

    ^PET fact

    December 9, 2011 at 1:30 pm Reply
    1. some dude

      IRC was already blue to no value. Originally IRC came to a seperate agreement with them, but Solar wasn't interested in joining in.

      December 9, 2011 at 3:23 pm Reply
  10. 0noes

    "whose goons have been secretly staging out of IAMJ and other xDeathx systems"

    WTF kind on rat poison filled, industrial waste soaked drug have you been smoking.

    December 9, 2011 at 1:40 pm Reply
    1. Anon

      He went outside and the fresh air hit him like a ton of bricks

      December 9, 2011 at 6:13 pm Reply
  11. A close ally

    The solution is easy: destroy and disband No Value. They should understand that there is no gf if the other part doesn't want: they have been simply staging war. Xdeathx is responsible and should pay the costs.

    December 9, 2011 at 2:56 pm Reply
  12. some dude

    I read "two inscrutable arms of the bottling monolith, the dreaded DRF" as sarcastic.

    December 9, 2011 at 3:29 pm Reply
  13. ...

    could make for some interesting kill mails. moar dead supers please! :)

    December 9, 2011 at 4:08 pm Reply
  14. Jarod

    in my understanding, an ant poke the elephant. now cries before being crushed? In the meantime they hide among the hippos?

    Was that it? I was confused on some slices of the story.

    December 9, 2011 at 4:46 pm Reply
  15. Some Guy

    The official stance from IRC is that we will NOT be involved in this war AT ALL unless our sov or we are attacked. We intend to let the russians work this out themselves.

    December 9, 2011 at 4:46 pm Reply
  16. relevant?

    u know its not a war as long it doesnt take the bots more than a few minutes to replace that shit.

    December 9, 2011 at 4:57 pm Reply
  17. Voyuer

    Lol wtf is IRC even doing in this article. As an alliance they're in "Smile and Wave" mode, and nowhere near trying to get involved in this confilict.

    December 9, 2011 at 5:25 pm Reply
  18. Observer

    I see the problem here, shadows should have stayed in the shadow like a good woman who makes a sandwich. No value forgot that they are seen as pets of no value to solar (probably how all shadows are seen by everyone) asking for blue was probably seen as demanding respect where it was not deserved.

    The right way to move up in the eve world would have been to join a corp/alliance who already had Solar's respect from the get go. I.e. established

    December 9, 2011 at 6:56 pm Reply
  19. less :words:

    ooooph tl;dr

    December 9, 2011 at 9:17 pm Reply
  20. qwert

    Legion declare about reset standing after this
    and after killing Shadow POSes with capital conctruction modules.
    Have chance not begin war after ? of course – no

    December 9, 2011 at 11:23 pm Reply
  21. Cannonball1

    Can anyone actually understand what this person is saying?

    December 9, 2011 at 11:24 pm Reply
  22. stfu

    is it just me or is eve politics more complicated then RL politics?

    December 10, 2011 at 12:37 am Reply
  23. MM_Grunt_001

    Well, at least the original intent of creating the dummy alliance served its purpose – you may not have conflict with each other!

    December 10, 2011 at 2:31 am Reply
  24. Waiting to Exhale

    Anxiously awaiting the RMT bomb.

    December 10, 2011 at 7:08 am Reply
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