Raiden. also bringing the party to Delve/Querious residents – Raiden. vs DekCO

October 27th, L-6BE1 solar system of the Querious Region.

From reports, Raiden had dropped SBUs a few days prior and had returned to shoot the station. Initially, it seems the Delve residents tried to hit the Raiden. subcap fleet from range, but something weird happened. Deklein Coalition forces showed up. Raiden’s fleet was bubbled by Deklein Coalition while Delve continued battering them from range. L-6BE1 was a messy fight. It isn’t clear whether or not Deklein Coalition and Delve collaborated, but looking through the kills, it is pretty clear that they ignored each other for the most part and focused on killing their common nemesis, bobkennyitraiden. Nulli and some “Thundercats” corp (you aren’t in Razer anymore, no one cares) showed up with 2 people each to ninja in on killmails and catch stragglers. So, whether planned or not, the lines in L-6BE1 seemed to be drawn like this:
BR Doc

Both sides had almost equal numbers (the 13 caps/supers of Raiden only showed up after the field was clear). Raiden was Abbadon heavy, while Deklein Coalition brought a battlecruiser-heavy fleet and Delve fielded battleships and bombers. As has been the case for most of this year, PL was flying with Raiden and friends, more evidence that they are not actually “for hire” but simply part of the now sprawling coalition (everyone reset, my ***).

Raiden began moving off the station, out of the bubbles, as the Delve battleships took apart the weak or slow to react. Just as they got out of the bubbles, Deklein Coalition battlcruisers warped in almost on top of them. You have to give credit to Raiden logis who pulled off several miracles during the course of this battle but the sheer dps of the combined Delve/Deklein Coalition fleets (and likely switch to two or more primaries at the same time) began taking its toll. New bubbles dropped on the Raiden fleet, trapping it once more and ships begin dying. Well over characters in local combined with the sudden introduction of piles of drakes and their server-dreaded missile spam and the node was brought to its knees. Some rubber-banding and lagging modules was all it took to turn this fight into a slaughterfest for all sides.

A high lag situation should have favored the heavier buffer of the baddons, but several successful bombing runs put scattered damage across the Raiden fleet that was simply too much for the logis to keep up with. In the end, Raiden lost more isk, but were able to run the other fleets off the field. Supers and dreads were dropped, and the station was flipped, and the TCU was killed.


Don’t blame about the music. ^__^

Eve-Kill Battle Summary
L-6BE1 – Dotlan Link

– Bagehi, Destroyer of awful soundtracks.

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  1. Guest

    Wow, I now have a reason to hate raiden. Thanks for the terrible music.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:25 am Reply
    1. Derp

      You've obviously never heard Riverini sing.

      October 30, 2011 at 4:52 am Reply
      1. Shut up, am due singing in 2 hours… ^___^

        October 30, 2011 at 4:58 am Reply
        1. I sing classical

          Lol funny story, ive been a singer my whole life.. That music sucks though.

          October 30, 2011 at 2:44 pm Reply
          1. -A- 4life

            You should listen to our comms, we have singing FCs you know :)

            November 1, 2011 at 12:20 am
  2. MinHui


    October 30, 2011 at 3:32 am Reply
  3. Lykouleon

    BoBKenzokuITRaidendot and the coalition of We-don't-have-a-massive-blue-list-double-the-size-of-the-old-NC (no, really, they don't) has reared its ugly, misshapen, failed-abortion head in Delve…are we really that surprised?

    As well, in before the BoBKenzokuITRaidendot team of "didn't want that sov/station anyway, we're here for ~guid figths~" arrives.

    October 30, 2011 at 4:33 am Reply
    1. jason

      Goons have by far the largest bluelist atm so the fact people in goons are complaining about others bluelist blows my mind. Stop you bitching, call on your pets, and fight back.

      October 31, 2011 at 12:28 pm Reply
      1. stoicspoon

        After the super nerf, the power will shift a bit between these two. DRF depends too much on super numbers.

        October 31, 2011 at 2:51 pm Reply
      2. bagehi

        Say what?

        October 31, 2011 at 4:43 pm Reply
      3. Lykouleon

        1) No, check your numbers…

        2) We're not hypocritical enough to say "We don't like blue, we don't want a massive blue list" then make a massive blue list and never reset anyone. We don't deny our blue list exists.

        October 31, 2011 at 6:10 pm Reply
      4. Orion

        I believe CFC was attacked by the combine forces of the most of the DRF (white noise, raiden),, evoke and PL. Your telling me that that bluelist isn't bigger?

        November 1, 2011 at 1:33 am Reply
    2. ViperRum

      Don't be a fucking retard, the BoBKenzokuIT part of your response is just stupid. You do realize that it is a small subset of the BoBKenzokuIT corps….you going to say the same thing about TEST/Goons? After all, SUITS and Dark live in Fountain and are blue to TEST/Goons?

      October 31, 2011 at 4:30 pm Reply
      1. bagehi

        The VAST majority of Bob/Ken/IT supers are in the corps that now are in Raiden. Sure, Raiden is run differently than Bob and isn't run by Molle. Raiden, however, has the same bittervet crew that controlled Delve and the surrounding area for years and holds the same prejudices as Bob of old. So, it shouldn't come as a surprise when people refer to it as the latest incarnation of Bob.

        October 31, 2011 at 7:03 pm Reply
  4. -A- Friend

    well would you look at that raidendot brought some supers and still got their shit pushed in

    October 30, 2011 at 4:49 am Reply
    1. Lykouleon

      But but they brought the supers in after the fight!

      Its not like their sub-cap pilots aren't competent and have to be held up by their capital-sperg backbone.

      October 30, 2011 at 5:39 am Reply
    2. bagehi

      The supers didn't drop until after the fight. It was in the article. People seem to be commenting on this article without reading it, judging from many of the comments.

      October 31, 2011 at 4:42 pm Reply
  5. wolf

    Was an epic fun fight 250 raiden and pl against 450 goons +pets (and others). Lag was bad so guardians could not lock quick enough. The goons did one of the best bombing runs i have ever seen, helped by a bad dictor on raidens side who bubbled most of the fleet. Station was captured as was the system.

    October 30, 2011 at 6:27 am Reply
  6. rara

    Not mentioned: CFC bombing run towards the end that leaves a lot of Raiden Abaddons at low health. Then a few leftover MM bombers take the opportunity and bomb, killing 50+ Abaddons.

    October 30, 2011 at 6:27 am Reply
    1. One Sided

      tough luck

      October 30, 2011 at 11:06 am Reply
      1. Lol Fail Reporter

        u mad one sided u seem mad

        October 31, 2011 at 2:33 am Reply
    2. bagehi

      "but several successful bombing runs put scattered damage across the Raiden fleet that was simply too much for the logis to keep up with."

      Did you read the article? First sentence, last paragraph.

      October 31, 2011 at 4:35 pm Reply
      1. rara

        That's about as vague as you could put it, yes. Considering that it was by far the largest source of Abaddon kills in the fight, "oh yeah and there were some bombs that did some damage and were hard to rep" doesn't describe it very justly.

        October 31, 2011 at 10:52 pm Reply
        1. bagehi

          There weren't many details about the bombing run. Anywhere. Just "zomg, bombing run killed a bunch of Raiden battleships!" I send out requests for more info to diplos when I start writing an article. Sometimes I get "alliance policy to not talk about anything," sometimes I get real responses back in a reasonable time and the article is shaped by those responses. Sometimes I get a response back over a week later, too late to be part of an article that people would care to read. But often, I simply don't get a response. Most of the info comes from readers who post stuff in the drop box. So, either kick your diplos into providing info on fights in a reasonable time frame or start providing it yourself.

          November 1, 2011 at 7:34 pm Reply
          1. rara

            It's possible to ascertain some details without having someone tell you them. For example, from the eve-kill BR in the article, you can go to the first listed dead Abaddon and see that it was killed by bombs. Go to the first listed bomber on that kill, and then see the dozens of Abaddons and pods that it racked up in that fight. You can compare times (or look at the times on the BR doc) to get a sense of the timeline, too. You wouldn't be able to say that it was MM finishing off what the CFC bombers started, but you get numbers and times.

            Additionally, I wasn't even at the fight and I knew this information. It wasn't exactly op-sec (people were crowing about it the next day on comms), so I'm surprised you didn't get this info from nearly anyone in either the CFC or MM.

            November 1, 2011 at 10:27 pm
  7. Headerman

    I guess the question is… Whats next for the Thunderdome?

    October 30, 2011 at 7:34 am Reply
    1. Lykouleon

      Wacky-tie Fridays and the return of Hydra Alliance.

      October 30, 2011 at 7:57 am Reply
    2. Scope News

      PL continue to be ' for hire ' (at a rate nobody can afford) while helping their good buddies in DRF friends attempt a steamroll of another region for ' lulz ' and ' good fights ' .

      Thats whats next. However since alot of delve is actually npc sov, it really is Good Fights for everybody. So not too bad after all.

      October 30, 2011 at 8:35 am Reply
  8. LOL

    blob heaven

    October 30, 2011 at 8:45 am Reply
  9. MindRanger

    That video was never to be published on evenews, the latino-"te quiero" music was put there for shits and giggles 😉

    I think Riverini just published it to get back at me since I took a potshot at his Br1ck Squad mates yesterday 😛

    Flame ahead, entering triage mode…

    October 30, 2011 at 9:21 am Reply
  10. Porn to be alive

    Pretty wrong BR mister Bagehi. Let me quote a couple of errors here:
    "but something weird happened. Deklein Coalition forces showed up"
    "but looking through the kills, it is pretty clear that they ignored each other for the most part and focused on killing their common nemesis"
    Team goon and team fail/MM/brick/whatevers waited on each other to arrive on the field. Goons entered first and didnt go straight for the fight but waited for the complete team blob to blot out the sun. Which brings me to quote number 2:
    "Both sides had almost equal numbers"
    450 goon/MM/others equals 200 raiden/PL. Although the endresult showed that this was rather true.
    "A high lag situation should have favored the heavier buffer of the baddons,"
    It did! That is why during the complete fight the endresult was 300 kills for 15 losses on part of the raiden/PL side.

    Still kudo's for the wonderfull after-fight bombing run when everybody was relaxing, from team old-NC MM/goons. Which resulted in 4 times more kills as during the complete fight.

    October 30, 2011 at 10:08 am Reply
    1. Pantera Roz


      October 30, 2011 at 10:48 am Reply
    2. bagehi

      450 includes all the reshipped people. If you look through the list, a ton of pilots are listed as flying a BC and a bomber. The killboards list that as two people.

      I did actually mention the turning point of the fight being the bombing runs. It should have favored the Abaddons, but then they got bombed. Logis can't rep everyone at the same time, so baddons died. First sentence, last paragraph.

      October 31, 2011 at 4:28 pm Reply
      1. Easy

        Great turning point 5 minutes after the fight ends uhm, you mad bro?

        October 31, 2011 at 10:51 pm Reply
        1. bagehi

          If the fight was done five minutes ago, why did you lose more ships? You mad bro?

          November 1, 2011 at 7:28 pm Reply
  11. WTF

    There is the battle doctor report:
    -Everyone who dropped in (except PL) had agreement to shoot only RDN
    -Only capital fielded during battle was 4 bait dreads to get CFC interested, SC´s were only used to capture the station after the fight was over
    -Blue side lost 10-20 ships while killing over 200 ships (and 80 pods) during the conventional fight
    -Blue side lost 50+ abaddons in bombing runs after the fight was over

    But dont let the facts discourage you from posting shit.

    Congrats on the epic bombing run!

    October 30, 2011 at 10:28 am Reply
    1. bagehi

      1. Raiden didn't know that. I'm sure it was surprising for them to see CFC and Delve fighting on the same side, which is what I said.

      2. "(the 13 caps/supers of Raiden only showed up after the field was clear)." as quoted directly from the article.

      3. Looks like I got a bad killboard battle summary. Not sure when all those BC kills made it onto the board, but they were not there when I was writing this, unfortunately. Better:

      4. 63 Abaddons were killed by bombers, 71 total Abaddons killed. "but several successful bombing runs put scattered damage across the Raiden fleet that was simply too much for the logis to keep up with." as quoted from the article above.

      October 31, 2011 at 3:15 pm Reply
  12. muchu

    Must be the worst damn BR you have written. Thx good you can read the correct ones on Kugu. People that really think this article is correct can wait for the next movie about this fight to be posted.

    Damn you got some bad background on this BR.

    October 30, 2011 at 10:39 am Reply
  13. Random -A- guy
    October 30, 2011 at 12:12 pm Reply
    1. Easy
      October 30, 2011 at 1:42 pm Reply
  14. hurhur

    cant we all just get along?

    October 30, 2011 at 2:41 pm Reply
    1. bagehi

      That would be boring.

      October 31, 2011 at 4:36 pm Reply
  15. Cannonball1

    Shit post as usual.

    It wouldn't be EN24 if they actually reported something so trivial as "facts"

    October 30, 2011 at 4:56 pm Reply
  16. Gumpin

    Confirming this post needs more cowbell.

    October 30, 2011 at 11:10 pm Reply
  17. Orion

    I WAS THERE! Riverini fiends and co, got their ass kicked. BIG TROUBLE IN DELVE for the NC refugees. Don't worry they can live out of NPC space, it's like a homeless shelter built for them.


    October 31, 2011 at 1:40 am Reply
  18. Orion

    I WAS THERE! Riverini fiends and co, got their ass kicked. BIG TROUBLE IN DELVE for the NC refugees. Don't worry they can live out of NPC space, it's like a homeless shelter built for them.

    October 31, 2011 at 1:52 am Reply
  19. Jarod

    Very nice logistics there. Good fight raiden!

    What might be noteworthy is that only 1 SB from pandemic legion died.
    "And no other Pandemic Legion died that day."

    October 31, 2011 at 12:09 pm Reply
  20. Raoul

    x13 victor!

    October 31, 2011 at 4:22 pm Reply
  21. ViperRum


    This is getting really really really stupid. You have a subset of the Bob/Ken/IT corps so it really isn't a fair description any more. There is no DICE, RKK, Evolution, and of the IT corps, SUITS, Dark, The Maverick Navy, and Best Path are all in different alliances. For fuck sake, let go of the BoB/Kenny/IT fetish.

    October 31, 2011 at 4:26 pm Reply
    1. ViperRum

      Oh, as a former member of IT and in a non-Raiden. corp I would seriously love to shoot the shit out of Finfleet and X-13, really dislike those bastards. And I'm not the only one who thinks this way. So the meme is really worn and tired.

      October 31, 2011 at 4:28 pm Reply
      1. smurfslayor

        did finfl refuse to mantrain you? did you get in x13 ts and think they were all laughing at you? Jelly? what?

        November 3, 2011 at 7:28 pm Reply
    2. Lykouleon

      You seem really, really upset Mr. BoBKenzokuITRaidendot guy.

      October 31, 2011 at 6:12 pm Reply
  22. Test pub

    Raiden is only blue to PL because PL knows that Raidens super capital fleet is the only threat to the PL super capital fleet. PL = Pussy Legion

    October 31, 2011 at 9:39 pm Reply
  23. -A- 4life

    great soundtrack btw, ppl just have no clue

    November 1, 2011 at 12:22 am Reply
  24. cattys

    Fuck u faggots …im in raiden and im not ex bobit….
    Last time i chek i fight agains them in the past….so Raiden is more good descrition now….see there is some new corp who join who are not ex It( from rol,voltron, evoke etc)

    November 1, 2011 at 9:57 am Reply

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