In less than 24 hours, the seemingly unbeatable WelpCane formula of the Deklein Coalition turned out to be the repeatedly repealed by the single most cost effective weapon in Null Sec warfare, the Stealth Bomber.

This is notable since the WelpCane fleets has been the tipping sword during last month Deklein Coalition campaign, to the point that it turned into the new Flavor of the Month, with the likes of Razor, Morsus Mihi, Against All Authorities and Pandemic Legion fielding designs based on the WelpCane blueprint. Much to the chagrin of DekCo pilots who, supported by their formidable superior numbers, had always managed to get the upper hand in a fleet fight utilizing a fit composition “meant” to be very forgiving of loses and easy to train, thus encouraging even more it use by isk conscious pilots.

Enter Guerrilla Warfare.

Yesterday we had reported on a successful Pandemic Legion run against a numerically superior WelpCane fleet in Pure Blind. In the time that passed up to today, there were additional major engagements that were fought (and won) by the use of stealth bombers on the heavily packed WelpCane formation.

The 1DH-SX solar system has been used by Morsus Mihi, BricK sQuAD. and other allies as the main engaging point in their quest to maintain control of lower Delve, last night as news of a 100+ DekCo fleet of en route into the system, several Morsus Mihi and BricK sQuAD. defense fleet were formed including one of 25+ bombers, here is the battle-report from its Fleet Commander:

DekCo WelpCane expedition ‘Delves’ into Nightmare in wake of bombing run

Whilst my brethren in the EU-TZ slept I stayed on and heard about a TEST/GOON Blob strangely heading our way down to 1DH… I noticed there was a few fleets up in the fleet finder but I wanted to go with bombers, because I knew we lacked numbers.

It was a simple plan at first, setup on a gate and wait for them to jump in and bomb them… but we were slow forming up and they got into system before we were ready… Eventually everyone (8 of us initially) was on their perch points and we made a few runs on gates killing 3/4 at a time before they managed to jump… They were looping around 1DH – A-E and Z3V and I set my trap in 1DH-SX taking a gamble that they would be leaving via the PR- gate. LordDragon was pursuing them and managed to pick off stragglers and have a few skirmishes with his LR BC fleet.

A bubble was anchored in line with the station in 1DH and I had 2 cloaky dictors on the PR- gate at 0km… we were setup off the gate (35km) and lay in wait to see if they fell into our snare… They were at station, so it was only a matter of time…

My scout had eyes on them, they were warping around tacticals, docking and undocking on the station… My interdictor pilot ABSOCOLD had a nice undock bookmark so i gave him wing command position and told him to wait for the order to warp at 30km…We needed them to make a mistake and a friendly carrier undocked just at the right time and they began to shoot it (luckily it had drones out not fighters)!
They were on the undock and we were ready to rock and roll, just as we warped the scout reported that they had bubbled the carrier, urgo themselves… Things were looking good

I landed out of warp and aligned a little toward them before I bombed… A few of them locked me up and I went down to half shield before my warp kicked in… At my station perch I witnessed the carnage of 70+ Battlecruisers instantly turn into POD’s! It was above my expectations and I couldnt hide my elation! For a moment I forgot all about the bubble on the PR- Gate, and guess where they warped …

We pursued followed by our stunned friends in Battlecruisers that had undocked and seen a sea of pods… They were running, the ones that made it into PR- were bubbled and destroyed a few lucky ones got out but who cares

All in all a good end to the day, and at 0400 in the morning I found myself wanting to play for another 8 hours

Related kills (Ignore the friendly BC losses – they weren’t with me lol) –

I heard that PL did this to them a few days ago also, Its ok if they think bubbling themselves will protect them they are mistaken and it just goes to show that when a window of opportunity presents itself, it can be devastating.

Thankyou for all that joined my fleet, and for those who didnt thanks for reading x

Nashau

Eve-Kill Battle Summary

Video – Bowling with a 50 kiloton ball.

Nashau was also kind enough to attach the following video of the station bombing run and the pr- gate final skirmish:

Oops!… ‘The Legion’ Did It Again

The same story repeated itself again in the Y6-HPG system of Venal, where Pandemic Legion has just deployed. The story is a familiar one, the WelpCane fleet jumps, or in this case warped to a PoS, and the cluster is bombed. Here is the result.

Pandemic Legion Battle Report

Analysis

Is this the dawn of the WelpFleet?

No, but it is interesting to consider it, the “grind” that comes from being bombed without having the chance to fire a single shot is one to ponder specially for newer pilots is brutal (trust me, yours truly has been in the receiving side enough times to confirm this), in EVE troop morale is everything and with it regions are won or lost, as an example just a few hours ago the Deklein Coalition turned 180 and left after witnessing RAWR/Brix slaughtering a neutral Rupture fleet which jumped right before them, taking minimal loses:

Eve Kill Battle Summary

Being the target of hit and run tactics is never fun as a pilot. Once again, we might be observing another flavor of the month falling out of fad or simply more proof that almost everything in Eve has a counter.

R

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64 Comments

  1. nashau

    Cue the impending Damage control and Flame Post from the Clusterfuck 😛

    September 23, 2011 at 8:49 am Reply
    1. Ohh definitely, wait until they find out the Delve Open Port "Brix Caving into Pressure" was a finely tuned troll devised by Darious III, their bosses and we took the bait entirely… not surprising they since after all, this "leak" came from the DekCo side :)

      R

      September 23, 2011 at 8:55 am Reply
      1. CFC

        A troll only remains a troll when you don't announce it to the world.

        September 23, 2011 at 11:10 am Reply
        1. or when you don't open up station docking rights when you said you would…

          September 23, 2011 at 2:43 pm Reply
          1. Mordd

            in that case i look forward to blowing it up while you cower inside it!

            September 23, 2011 at 3:48 pm
          2. lol

            Or maybe stop dicking around and invade fountain like you guys said you would a month ago

            September 23, 2011 at 4:16 pm
          3. Delvian Gudfites

            You Sir are just a Fail Poster.

            September 24, 2011 at 9:02 am
          4. bad

            ya because your going to keep the station long. :opsuccess:

            September 24, 2011 at 3:36 pm
      2. Eas

        https://imgur.com/a/Jco1S

        not much a troll considering brick was actually going for the deal.

        September 23, 2011 at 4:33 pm Reply
  2. voodooidol

    Not really sure why damage control is needed as it was never designed or touted as a one size fits all solution? Every subcap fleet has a counter and anything which encourages subcapital warfare is a good thing for EVE. A renaissance for bombers is pretty cool and I don’t think anyone in CFC is going to be sore about welping a fleet to a pro bomber wing.

    September 23, 2011 at 9:03 am Reply
    1. making a rhetorical question about damage control using (shocker) "damage control".

      I guess they "didn't want those welpfleet anyways"

      you are right at one thing, everything has a counter in eve is just a matter of time… except supers which needs a fix, pronto!

      September 23, 2011 at 9:15 am Reply
      1. Kpop

        whoa, you said "welpfleet"

        September 23, 2011 at 9:45 am Reply
        1. Pack o' WhelpCats = WhelpFleet. As God intended.

          September 23, 2011 at 9:47 am Reply
          1. poonus

            Can;t back out now. We know that secretly you call them a welpfleets. The only reason you won't use the term publicly as because, like all 12 year olds, you will never admit you were wrong.

            September 24, 2011 at 2:36 am
      2. Blazde

        "didn't want those welpfleet anyways"

        The clue IS in the name :)

        I don't think RAWR has fielded anything 'based on the WelpCane blueprint' btw, it's a pretty sucky fleet-type for the numbers we have. We use a lot of long-range canes but that goes back years to Plague Black championing Insta-pop fleets, we just started using them more in Delve after repeated abaddon-failure. Edit: I was wrong, apparently we were throwing ac-canes around last night o.0

        September 23, 2011 at 9:54 am Reply
      3. zef

        or the good old ''fc was drunk'' excuse.

        September 23, 2011 at 11:19 am Reply
        1. praying mantis

          no i wasnt drunk i just thought it would be a lol and it worked :) MM welp fleet best welp fleet

          September 23, 2011 at 11:51 am Reply
      4. dude in a cane

        it is called welpfleet for a reason. they could care less if it gets welped.
        its purpose is a cheap fleet to do stuff.

        September 23, 2011 at 12:26 pm Reply
        1. VonKolroth

          After Goon/TEST reimbursement and insurance, a pilot in either alliance that loses a cane and takes advantage of the programs lose next to nothing but the time to fit it.

          September 23, 2011 at 1:44 pm Reply
          1. CFC Member

            this. you pretty much only need to pay for your own ammo/drones.

            September 23, 2011 at 5:02 pm
        2. bombergudfites

          I love the fact goons/pets created a doctrine to fit with their skill lvl, welpfleet is designed to hide the fact your shit and would die anyway.

          September 25, 2011 at 6:38 am Reply
          1. Editorial

            I love how comments like this aren't deleted but any comments denigrating brick squad inthe same fashion are instantly deleted.

            September 26, 2011 at 1:06 am
          2. bombergudfites

            ^^^^^delete please

            September 26, 2011 at 6:55 am
      5. Berzerker

        Counter to super = welpfleet
        Counter to welpfleet = SHAC

        Bombers can kill everything subcap giving the right amount of ships being able to launch a bomb at the right spot so it not really a counter its just a cross your fingers and hope you pointed it in the right direction thing.

        Never the less this bombing run was great :) tnks for restoring some faith in you guys that we might have a fight for a change instead of shooting zombies like in left4dead.

        September 23, 2011 at 5:51 pm Reply
  3. Inbrainsane

    Bombers can kill stuff, really?

    September 23, 2011 at 9:03 am Reply
  4. SomeDude

    Man, I know you hate the DekCo dudes, but as a news reporter you shouldn't be biased at all in your comments.

    September 23, 2011 at 9:55 am Reply
    1. bombergudfites

      governments do it, why not us. after all its just internet space ships dude, wake the fuck up lol

      September 25, 2011 at 6:36 am Reply
  5. Vile rat

    Took our third Delve station today!

    w00tles.

    September 23, 2011 at 12:37 pm Reply
    1. RinnosukeETQW

      didn't want those stations anyway.

      September 23, 2011 at 2:52 pm Reply
      1. LeVar

        Already reimbursed.

        September 23, 2011 at 3:06 pm Reply
    2. SgtSimons

      holding stations is so 4 months ago. Living in NPC space is the cool thing now lol

      September 23, 2011 at 6:20 pm Reply
  6. Observator

    For as much as I enjoy this website, the stories and more so the comments are getting a little too ridiculously "propoganda-ish". New tactics are always going to come about and people are going to find ways to beat them, thats one of the aspects of the game.

    September 23, 2011 at 2:45 pm Reply
    1. alotta fagina

      the universe needs some kind of counter to goon shit talk

      September 25, 2011 at 6:40 am Reply
  7. The Real Molle

    Well done!

    September 23, 2011 at 3:10 pm Reply
  8. Abbadon24

    yay, propaganda of pl on eve24, yay !
    srsly, what did we care about loose a bunch of welpcanes ?…

    September 23, 2011 at 3:32 pm Reply
    1. Some Dude

      its just how fast u lost them :)

      September 23, 2011 at 4:03 pm Reply
      1. Abbadon24

        yeah, and ? it's the first bomb run we see in eve ? no, but it's goon, so it must be posted on eve24 ?

        September 23, 2011 at 4:12 pm Reply
  9. LAWL

    The point boys and girls is a group of less then 20 guys killed over a group of over 100. This takes Goons huge advantage of having more idiots then you and shoves it right up their TEST.

    September 23, 2011 at 3:49 pm Reply
    1. lol

      20 bombers usually kill a lot of ships when used right. This isn't really an exception.

      September 23, 2011 at 4:16 pm Reply
    2. Editorial

      Your pro bombers aren't stopping them from taking delve by the looks of things.

      September 26, 2011 at 1:08 am Reply
      1. minmax

        well when you have half the numbers, and kill more of them, but still cant hold the field because of their overwhelming numbers. not surprising really.
        but throwing endless amounts of ships at RC and hoping they take some sov in the process isn't the best tactic.
        worked well against supers but not against bombers

        September 26, 2011 at 6:59 am Reply
  10. WildlyAwfulDot

    It's a good thing they deployed these new super effective bombers to save the I-E station last night. :toot:

    September 23, 2011 at 4:21 pm Reply
  11. AuricalCryso

    It's no "Whelp", It's "Welp". Like, "Welp, we died, oh well." Which is the whole goddamn point. Nobody cares.

    September 23, 2011 at 4:28 pm Reply
    1. Jarhead

      aww i think someone is gonna cry. did someone take away your new fleet doctrine?

      September 25, 2011 at 1:18 pm Reply
      1. tickles

        na we jst need to thro on more thrashers

        September 27, 2011 at 4:13 am Reply
    2. maya ibuki2

      seriously bro, your lucky he's finally stopped calling them whelpcats.

      September 26, 2011 at 6:48 pm Reply
  12. yes, bombers kill stuff :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T5iWVPOIBs refer to this video for one of the ways we have done it

    September 23, 2011 at 5:38 pm Reply
  13. Ur235

    Just goes to show how incompitent DekCo is at pvp sure they can cram 200 in a system take sations and supers down anyone with thise numbers can but they cant avoid a simple bombing run pretty stupid

    September 23, 2011 at 5:43 pm Reply
  14. RinnosukeETQW

    Obligatory I was there

    September 23, 2011 at 6:24 pm Reply
  15. owmagawd welpcanes…other alliances field canes for years for roaming purposes and shit. Ofc they are nais ships but they ll never work in sovwarfare you faggot. All this goon-propaganda is rly annoying. While other Alliances hold Techmoons goons did cry the whole day about it. Now they own them themselves and you do not read a single word about "OMFG NERF TECH". I rly hope gewns die in a fuckin chemical fire…not the DRF is the worst enemy of eve but goons! Open your eyes you little fucks…

    September 23, 2011 at 6:50 pm Reply
  16. Masaca

    Obviously, you should be a huge dumb fag in order to think you could win a war by just bringing 200 monkeys into a cheap shit battlecruisers …

    September 23, 2011 at 9:44 pm Reply
  17. Headerman

    lol lose that welpfleet like a bitch

    September 24, 2011 at 1:33 am Reply
  18. Dradul

    "seemingly umbeatable WelpCane"

    Wait. Wut?

    September 24, 2011 at 2:32 am Reply
  19. Batman

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10

    That bomber thing is really working out.

    September 24, 2011 at 3:45 am Reply
  20. cointelpro

    How is this news ? of course bombers can be used efficiently by a smart FC to counter any subcap fleet, the key word here is " smart ", you guys should rename this website from evenews24 to evebrixpropaganda24

    September 24, 2011 at 5:21 am Reply
  21. gunny

    While i dont have a dog in this hunt, MM & Brick especailly Brick wil mop the floor with goons & test so im not surprised here.

    September 24, 2011 at 10:27 am Reply
  22. tow bogdan

    It gave me a few minutes of good laugh that you called a fleet composed of battlecruisers with limited number of logies "unbeatable". Seriously, it's a SUICIDE FLEET DOCTRINE. The way you wrote it make it feels that killing a bunch of canes is a challenge equal to beating DRF superblob… lol

    September 24, 2011 at 11:55 am Reply
  23. TEST PILOT

    Riverini and his slanted "news" is the WORST propaganda in EVE. When you ACTUALLY have the BALLS to take/ keep a system, give yourself a pat on the back and an article…….
    Until then all you do is go and yell about how you got a troll off or got a SB bomb right for once. Look at DOTLAN and tell me what you see? I see you and your horrible friends losing space……

    September 24, 2011 at 8:32 pm Reply
    1. goon pets

      this coming from goon pets, tell goons to let you guys go out on your own and see what happens, only reason goons keep you guys around your a good way of testing out potential recruits and leave all the shit pilots in test

      September 25, 2011 at 6:43 am Reply
      1. Raz

        You have no idea of the origins of the Clusterfuck do you?

        September 29, 2011 at 8:10 am Reply
  24. Sold

    I told them that shit wasn't gonna hold up. But oh, no. I don't know anything. As with any new tactic, it met with some initial success until tactics and fits evolved to counter it. Unfortunately for the clusterfuck, the evolution of tactics against the welpcane was very fast. Simple fit, simple counter. What next, goons? HAM Drakes?

    September 25, 2011 at 12:33 am Reply
  25. Guest

    So this is the same goonswarm attacking the holdings of the same RAWR that saved the goonies stalled fountain campaign last January. Since then, what have goons done to repay MM? Such assholes

    September 25, 2011 at 6:01 am Reply
  26. PL is lols

    common sense to use bombers against battlecruisers.

    fagcat alert

    September 27, 2011 at 12:22 pm Reply
  27. Nobody

    "Analysis

    Is this the dawn of the WelpFleet?"

    The dawn would be the beginning, not the end. L2Metaphor.

    And for the battlereport guy: "Urgo"??? L2Latin.

    September 27, 2011 at 1:05 pm Reply

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