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Well, apparently we were wrong all along with BORG, Delve, and everything we held dear. This morning, I came across this piece in my intel inbox. It’s not different than most of the “hate pieces” we are usually exposed to, but the sheer amount of hate contained inside it sets it apart from most other pieces.

Without further ado, the piece:

TL’DR: BORG Runs Delve. Look out!

DELVE DIPLOMACY:

First of all, the main powerbase behind any kind of DELVE fight back was Borg.

EVOKE landed on grid, the diplomatic workforce behind trying to unite DELVE against EVOKE and allies was BORG.
Check your own diplomats if you do not bealive this Riverini, BORG as far as i know worked to unite the DELVE residents into fleeting out together and putting differences aside, thus your own blue standings with the most unlikely entities of the DELVE area.

(Do note that one of the few entities in DELVE that has not been hit yet has been BORG, so this was done out of a willingness to fight DRF, not some random idiotic try to hold sov, as we dont care about it and fully expect to loose it concerning the situation, even though we fully expect to snatch a few super kills out of it)

MM / Bricks, make a weird “move” after people try to band the groups together initally, and convos having started between diplomats of all sides.
They (MM/Bricks) hot dropped a HUN mothership, i think the diplo convo itself was actually up and being discussed while it happened.
(think an article was actually made in evenews on the kill, im uncertain)
Im impressed personally that HUN turned a blind eye to this to try to work together on fighting for Delve, respect to HUN all way through.

HUN asking for other people to defend their sov ? You my friend (Riverini) are an idiot.

A coalition was being formed to push EVOKE out, if i remmember correctly, HUN are hungarian timezone or some such, meaning their timezone would have been out of ours, so timers were set where the main group of blues could have assisted.
Also, their supercapital numbers are low.
This was smart, not them “waiting for MM/BRICK to defend sov” as ur idiocy suggests.

The reason behind the southern block alliance moving out however, was a threat/order, which all of them seem to have complied with.
I withold judgement on this as i do not know the alliance leaders (all of them) personal experience and trust in Herc.
From my information, the evenews article is rather accurate, and concering said decision being smart or not, we will just have to see.

NOW NEXT THING, RIVERINI BORG QUOTE:

“BORG is lagging behind in choosing a side, and all their allies have abandoned any plans at holding sov in delve.”

And…

“Last time I checked BORG betrayed Morsus Mihi / Brix, and switched sides with Nulli Secunda and Co. When the shit really hit the fan (as in Ev0ke landing on Delve) they managed to get their NAP back with RAWR / Brix, and so far have been basing from NPC space.”

First of all, “all their allies ?” Are we no longer allies then ? If so, i suggest you show us the courtesy of asking your diplomats to request standing resets and leting us know.
Before you talk about it, yes we gave little warning ourselfs on first reset, in my opinion a mistake made in the heat of the moment, and i personally can show the maturity of saying “i apoligies on that front”.

Aside from that, “they managed to get their NAP back with RAWR” ?
We laughed at MM request for an apoligy when discussions were started about possibly facing this thread together and told them to fu’k off.
What came out of that in the end ? Blue standings.

About BRICKS, i would personally have sent an apoligy, they are more a casualty of to strong standings between MM and themselfs then anything else,
we have never had proplems working with BRICKS, a good bunch of guys/gals.

I suggest you request log files and emails from MM to verify how we betrayed you so horribly.
The fact of the matter is, some people within MM are used to the overlord aspect of “leading” a coalition.

Borg has an extensive group of old players who do not take well to bullying or overlord tactics of any sort,
especially when its not even tried in a diplomatic friendly manner, but a threat/order way of wording. (No, im not talking just about the famous email)

People can loose ships, isk and sov, but they keep their pride.

AN EXTRA:

BORG having a hard time working with MM beforehand because of numerous reasons, have faced whelping 2-3 fleets due to MM standing down recently.

What i mean by this is BORG has formed up, BORG have bridged in first against EVOKE, a MM fleet in system or next door have then denied warping in, or ignored it, while communication methods have stressed we had MM support.
This has not worked up any sort of trust with our memberbase or leadership toward MM, and thus explains a lack of effort on our part to work with said alliance in this fight..
Meaning if we go in again, we will probably wait for MM to commit.

It does offcourse not help that rumours are flying around that MM head diplomat has been extensively trying to work out deals with DRF, and these rumours are coming to us from many different sources.

TO WRAP UP THIS RANT OF MINE RIVERINI:

You either stay out of alliances or accept the fact that what you say will affect said alliance.

I have stayed silent on an endless amount of propaganda, as has most of BORG as we do not like to take things to public forums/news sites,
and this stance is encouraged.
But for my part, as much as i respect and like Chib, your endless idiotic propaganda “Bullshit” is starting to work on my outlook on BRICK SQUAD, sadly enough.

Now start trying to work as a real journalist and post stuff thats not colored by your own personal opinion, or those closest to you.
You keep this site running, i hope that means you have some pride in what news it shows to the public.

State facts, not “feelings”.

That is all.
BORG “In the know, bitter old man”, signing out

My Response

Aside from the fact this is nothing more than a rant to “save face” for BORG, the part that really caught my attention was the “stay out of alliances” thing.

As many of you know, I’m part of BricK sQuAD DOT. Just as my main editor is a GoonSwarm Federation member, my main writer flies under Imperial Order, and my proof writer dukes it out in RED.L. I am no stranger to the Local Chat of many of the entities we write about, and as a matter of fact, yours truly is called primary most of the time because of it. Despite all this, I do see the need to be part of a null-sec alliance as it would be extremely hypocritical of me to write on a daily basis about the life in null-sec from an arm chair in Jita. It’s not as if we are overly protective of the entities we are related to, as we have remained neutral whenever we get the chance to expose BricK sQuAD.’s dirty laundry too.

Having said all this, we have given the BORG guys their space to express themselves, so feel free to make your own conclusions. I have turned the anonymous posting “on”, so take your time boys and behave.

R

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64 Comments

  1. sinep

    Mana Mana

    August 26, 2011 at 10:25 pm Reply
  2. Delvian

    Blue Wizard Needs Food Badly

    August 26, 2011 at 10:29 pm Reply
  3. anatlasgoon

    "People can loose ships, isk and sov, but they keep their pride."

    Maybe a month from now, people will ask why BORG cascaded. Well, here it is.

    August 26, 2011 at 10:29 pm Reply
  4. BORG dir

    As a Director in BORG I apologise for this idiot. I'll find out who it is and have them herded back into their cages.

    August 26, 2011 at 10:35 pm Reply
    1. Roland_Hova

      best to just skip the cages and go right to the gas chamber.

      August 27, 2011 at 6:04 am Reply
      1. Random Space Hobo

        You must be from evoke

        August 27, 2011 at 1:10 pm Reply
        1. Roland_Hova

          If i were in evoke I'd be to busy looking at Schizer porn to post on this site.

          August 27, 2011 at 6:31 pm Reply
          1. A Name

            If you were evoke you´d get smacked, drawn and quartered and kicked out of your corp for posting here…

            August 28, 2011 at 5:48 pm
          2. BORG dir

            Agreed. One of the many reasons we have much respect for EVOKE.

            The person who wrote this mail has been delt with.

            August 29, 2011 at 12:37 am
          3. La Lola

            What did you do to him? any gorey detail?

            August 30, 2011 at 8:19 am
    2. ANom

      APi or ur not a Director

      August 27, 2011 at 6:38 am Reply
    3. Optimist

      After all those leaks and rants i still don't know. Is BORG working with, for, or against MM?

      August 27, 2011 at 8:03 am Reply
    4. Digiblast

      oh no a Leak by Let Jee lol

      August 30, 2011 at 9:49 am Reply
  5. CnC

    I'm not sure how BORG expected their near-betrayal of one of their first allies to unfold, but should they really expect MM to bend over backwards for them? The cries of "WTF" could be heard far and wide when MM pilots logged in to find that BORG was blue and in their roams… though an animosity now leveled at the leadership of BORG only from what I've seen and heard. For those pilots in MM who feel that most nullsec entities in EVE would go out of their way to see them die (which might be correct), I think trust is the hardest thing to come by for them at this point… and BORG destroyed that through actions of their own. If you are trying to repair your reputation or build bonds for a stronger coalition, you're doing it wrong.

    Sure MM diplomats can be a little off at times and are still getting used to the change in the status quo, but those pilots flying under their banner have pride as well. Go ahead, and brag more about how you told their diplomats to F&*# off while their rank and file are still sore over your past actions. One can only wonder about what diplomatic incidents might occur in the future once their pilots start reading that shit.

    August 26, 2011 at 10:42 pm Reply
  6. 6 of 9

    It's like dating a girl with a sweet ass and a cleft lip.

    <3 brick, meh mm

    August 26, 2011 at 10:54 pm Reply
  7. hellion86

    "Borg has an extensive group of old players who do not take well to bullying or overlord tactics of any sort, especially when its not even tried in a diplomatic friendly manner, but a threat/order way of wording."

    In the words of the founding corp of BORG and BORG itself:
    ~"We are the Collective. We are as one. Protection and prosperity through assistance and assimilation."
    ~"Resistance is futile."

    That truly hints a lot to the lack of overlord mentality.

    ~"Now start trying to work as a real journalist and post stuff thats not colored by your own personal opinion, or those closest to you."

    "We want to give you guys the best possible intel, to post as fast as we can confirm it, but Eve being :Eve: is quite confusing. If we messed up with our intel, please contact us directly…"

    If you have a problem with what he writes about then submit your own stuff and don't complain about what he posts, or simply enough, stop reading it.

    August 26, 2011 at 10:59 pm Reply
    1. DRF

      All players in EvE will do what they are told.

      August 26, 2011 at 11:41 pm Reply
    2. You do know their alliance name and description for the corp.

      Comes from that massive sci fi show star trek? and the borg faction which exists within it?

      Their politics can be different than their namesake.

      August 27, 2011 at 2:54 am Reply
      1. hellion86

        Oh man, how could i have possibly missed that blatantly obvious fact

        August 27, 2011 at 3:33 am Reply
        1. Your sloppy mother

          Hey, anyone got a wiki page handy for this star trek? Sounds awesome!

          August 27, 2011 at 3:11 pm Reply
  8. Former NC

    What's wrong with an armchair in Jita? It's amazing the perspective you can get from the outside, looking in. You're also not blinded by incidents closer to home; mostly owing to the fact that in high-sec, you're not really in a home.
    As such, I disagree with your viewpoint that you need to be in nul-sec, sure I get a hold of information a day or so after it's happened but it's the same for anybody really. Plus Jita's got a sale on armchairs, I couldn't refuse. Free monacle with every purchase.

    August 26, 2011 at 11:10 pm Reply
    1. DRF

      You like being in high sec… Either your a liar or a moron. EvE is know for having a few morons who think high sec is part of the game.

      August 26, 2011 at 11:36 pm Reply
      1. this man talks the truth… people should be banished or have a yearly time limit to spend on high sec.

        August 26, 2011 at 11:59 pm Reply
      2. Former NC

        I didn't say I liked it… learn to fucking read you tosspot.

        Keep the negrep up guys, it's nice to know that there's so elitist 0.0 guys out there. I choose to play my game my way, you choose to play yours. I don't bash you guys unless you're DRF or NCDOT. Guess I may as well just quit Eve, because clearly I'm not allowed to play the way I want to. I mean, high sec automatically means carebear right? Not like the hordes of 0.0 guys who run Sanctums every day? Oh wait, CCP took them from a good 60-70% of you didn't they.

        TL:DR you want tears, have some.

        August 27, 2011 at 12:14 am Reply
        1. Imigo

          I read that same comment on the Jita armchair, thought about Snot Shot and ROFL'd so hard… it was beautiful.

          August 27, 2011 at 3:04 am Reply
        2. DRF

          We will rent you some space for a price. For you it will be very expensive.

          August 27, 2011 at 10:59 am Reply
      3. sour

        oh nice…. blobers vs carebears dispute 😛

        August 28, 2011 at 2:04 am Reply
  9. BORG idiot

    Yadda! Yadda!

    August 26, 2011 at 11:10 pm Reply
  10. FairISFair

    Maybe some one who doesn't write the articles should be in charge of admin for comments section. I feel like this could allow people who disagree with riverini from being silenced by him, not saying theres anything wrong with using his powers for those that deserve it and cross the line. But still.

    August 26, 2011 at 11:12 pm Reply
  11. Wonder

    Explains alot that your proof reader is Russian lol

    August 26, 2011 at 11:28 pm Reply
    1. DRF

      EvE belongs to us.

      August 26, 2011 at 11:39 pm Reply
    2. BosnianHitman

      Just clarify, I'm his proof-reader. I'm a native English speaker who is a part of Red.L, the English arm of RA. Not sure where your comment is aimed at specifically, but I assure you, I proof-read things as often as my schedule allows it and regardless of it's in-game affiliation.

      EDIT: Article has been proof-read and is much easier to read now.

      August 27, 2011 at 12:59 am Reply
      1. Lolsies

        Not usually a nazi but you are a proofer. That should be "Just TO clarify" not "just clarify."

        August 28, 2011 at 12:45 am Reply
        1. BosnianHitman

          Good catch, not sure how I missed that as I typed it out.

          August 28, 2011 at 12:55 am Reply
  12. Tom RMT'er

    RIV did you ask someone in Borg leadership if this was actually from Leadership??

    August 26, 2011 at 11:45 pm Reply
    1. I never said this was from BORG leadership, should they keep their dogs on a leash?

      August 27, 2011 at 1:13 am Reply
      1. Riverini, as you know yourself, it's hard for leaders to keep their members shushed. 😛

        August 27, 2011 at 2:55 am Reply
  13. Hmm...

    I, for one, would have no respect for anything written here if the people writing it weren't in nullsec. Of course one has to keep the author's biases in mind, but if it were someone who isnt even part of the nullsec political apparatus and simply composed of people piecing together things from the outside, it would be extremely hard to give it any credibility. Although I consider some of the artilce to be rather skewed towards one point or another, it's a internet spaceship game for christ's sake, you can't really expect things to be much more neutral than what's presented here.

    August 26, 2011 at 11:51 pm Reply
  14. THORN_In_Side

    An unauthorize grunt speaking on behalf on BORG leadership. BORG leadership needs to crack the whip and reign in their members, because the word of one loose cannon grunt becomes the public voice of the alliance. That's not good for already shaky relations within Delve.

    August 27, 2011 at 2:33 am Reply
    1. Far

      Dude it's the internet, anyone can say anything they want; anon.

      News Flash: Montolio impregnates Lady Scarlet, singularity forms, eve collapses in on itself. More at 5.

      August 27, 2011 at 12:50 pm Reply
  15. RAWR - TJ

    "It does offcourse not help that rumours are flying around that MM head diplomat has been extensively trying to work out deals with DRF, and these rumours are coming to us from many different sources."

    I loled when i seen this. LOVING this. me speaking to an ncdot fc to arrange some good pew without being supercap blobbed. OMG that is a crime. nice job tho on some awesome but fail intel

    August 27, 2011 at 2:48 am Reply
    1. ATL

      I think it refers to you working out a deal to be given Querious by DRF along with Bricks.

      But what do we know? :)

      August 27, 2011 at 2:33 pm Reply
      1. CnC

        Why would MM want Querious? And at the price of pissing off their memberbase who have absolutely no love for those who negotiations would need to be with?

        Just a guess, but that sounds like some pretty fail intel…

        Are you sure you're not being trolled?

        August 27, 2011 at 4:54 pm Reply
        1. sour

          well we will learn the true color of mm soon enough now dont we…?

          August 28, 2011 at 1:41 am Reply
  16. Riverini, with all these articles i dont see you posting much about how Sh1tSquad and MM Are getting their asses handed to them by Ev0ke
    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10

    August 27, 2011 at 2:56 am Reply
  17. Marcus_McTavish

    "my main editor is a GoonSwarm Federation member"
    This, all i needed to know, now i know why.
    What he is yelling about it you can report news just not from only a brick squad standpoint and be negative about all hostiles you face

    btw
    TOSS MY SALAD!!!

    August 27, 2011 at 3:23 am Reply
  18. MM_Grunt_001

    I can kinda see where the OP is coming from.

    More than 90% of the drama is caused by less than 10% of the people, whether its BORG, MM or any other alliance (except DRF – we know they are all bots..). This is the cream of the crop of that 10%.

    We get it. First, we kinda just plopped in on your space, where y'all had a good thing going with all the other medium- and small-sized alliances in Delve. Then, you find that despite that grandiose speech by your half-witted alliance leader, you still don't matter. And now, all your other play pen buddies got whisked away by their overlords to take of their bigger menace, leading you alone with us, and BR1CK.

    We're sorry!

    August 27, 2011 at 4:14 am Reply
  19. Tyrrant

    "It’s not as if we are overly protective of the entities we are related to, as we have remained neutral whenever we get the chance to expose BricK sQuAD.’s dirty laundry too."

    Erm, how about no? Before .ini joined Brick, this was a NC mouth piece – now it's a ChibSquad one.
    Kinda scary when a PL troll site has more news than "the news".

    August 27, 2011 at 6:49 am Reply
  20. Really MM....

    Sooooo how about that MM titan fail last night guys….. ROQUAL LETS KILL IT WITH …. wait all we have is a titan and some bad support guess that will do oh wait what happens http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=104

    All for a lousy roqual if u where not half this bad maybe some one would like to save u

    August 27, 2011 at 7:05 am Reply
  21. RMexx

    Lol I laughed so hard! Yes BORG is almighty with alliance 1000 people+ and 12 people max in fleets. If Ev0ke wants free super killmails then go take BORG space.BORG, I mean COL only leadership has already decided to make as much isk as possible, from the space and they have accepted that they will lose the space anyway. As I know from fact atm. BORG members have ordered to keep the expensive ships in FWST anyway. As with BORG will lose the space what comes next? BORG has invited to join many times with WN side into DRF they will be 95% go there (Yes Hui and Taz this leak comes from one of your senior members. "We know , Eve knows".)
    Btw, if you want to see BORG in tears, but your afk alts into BORG ratting systems and from 1000 members alliance you see only max. 10 people logging in.
    They wanted to make alliance great as -A- , but they made another name in eve what will soon disband. Stupid MM/br1ck pets…

    August 27, 2011 at 9:22 am Reply
    1. Poleinloslobos

      Borg wants to run Delve and was told to wake up and smell the gun powder. They flipped ( Never talking with the rest of their alliance ) ( Points at key individuals leaving Borg ) Made a deal with Progod ( Flip flops when needed ..Can not be trusted ) and friends. They leave Borg high and dry in less than 2 weeks. Borg all alone sends messages to Brick asking..( please forgive us..we only hate mm we love you guys.) Brick talks with MM about it. MM will only turn Borg blue if Brick turns Borg blue.

      Borg will negotiate with Evoke to save its own neck. The " Spyzor " network says even today Borg has had contact with Evoke. What yourself little pet Borg would stab you in the back too.

      August 27, 2011 at 7:03 pm Reply
  22. BORG Muppet

    I'm in BORG and while Riverini has refused to publish a mail from Vlade to BORG leadership showing that BORG reset MM because MM tried to tell BORG how they were allowed to use their own sov systems. I am embarrased to be associated to the retard who wrote this mail.

    August 27, 2011 at 9:27 am Reply
  23. I just do not know

    BORG is run by a certain old ex-AAA corp that was and always is a pain in the butt. That being said they got butt hurt because they ran into someone even more annoying then them, the elitist snobs in MM who think that they are superior to everyone else and don't want any blues and that includes Brick and those in Brick who just want to be blue with MM and shoot everyone else.

    August 27, 2011 at 10:22 am Reply
  24. testie

    That OP must join TEST right now, awesome drama over nothing, best quality.

    August 27, 2011 at 10:44 am Reply
  25. Alliance PvPer

    BORG brought this all on themselves They're lucky their still in delve.

    August 27, 2011 at 1:18 pm Reply
  26. heh

    lol borg. their members are bored and leaving. borg is shit

    August 27, 2011 at 4:18 pm Reply
  27. MM butt buddy

    when i saw the first couple lines saying borg runs delve i stopped reading. Coming from a leadership point of view in MM, Borg has been thought of as pets actually less then pets a bunch of retards, unable to run fleet's properly, unable to run a proper alliance, and to pussy to fight any battles.
    they expect to have everything handed to them. just like when they begged nulli to give them sov, Just like how they begged MM to set them blue again and cry that they made a mistake and they were sooo sorry, and just how they show 0 and i mean 0 numbers in any kind of op.
    actually yesterday they were able to gather up 20 people to come join the fight in KFIE againt evoke. while we were fighting i had to jump out since i was in a pod and got primaried and i see 20 BORG to scared to jump in and help us out WHILE THERE FC IS SAYING THAT THEY ARE IN THERE HELPING
    They are a joke of an alliance and they deserve to be reset but they cried to much when we told them that we were resetting them.

    August 27, 2011 at 4:25 pm Reply
  28. Optimus Prime

    Mkay can we just drop this stuff already….. We kinda have bigger issues than who's Wang is bigger than the others.. Fighting like this inter-alliance. "I'm better than you" Bullsh!t is getting us nowhere fast… WHY don't we try to resolve the real issue at hand, and not who slept with Britany Spears first. I smell obvious awoxing going on, so why don't we become the cohesive units that we are. BORG! BR1CK!, and MM! Idk anything about the other alliance, so sorry if i missed any friends. AUTOBOTS ROLLOUT!

    August 27, 2011 at 5:53 pm Reply
    1. Afr1can

      Thank phuck someone with brains, I totally agree with your comments, Guys/Gals get a grip join fleets and pwe pwe.

      Sod Querious and in-division-Alliance-crap. We know where are enemies live/reside KFIE lol and we are next door so it cant be hard can it.

      August 28, 2011 at 3:58 pm Reply
  29. Poleinloslobos

    Borg can not be trusted. Spys say they are wanting to negotiate with Germans and have been in talks with them. Borg is losing its oldest and best members. They are great pvpers ..They kill 8000NPC in 24 hours.
    You can not beat the ratting bots of EVOKE with nearly 20,000 npc kills in 24 hours. The DRF salutes you. you have done well my pet. May your RMT overflow.

    August 27, 2011 at 6:43 pm Reply
  30. MM butt buddy

    when i saw the first couple lines saying borg runs delve i stopped reading. Coming from a leadership point of view in MM, Borg has been thought of as pets actually less then pets a bunch of retards, unable to run fleet's properly, unable to run a proper alliance, and to pussy to fight any battles.

    August 27, 2011 at 9:18 pm Reply
  31. sour

    shit alliances (especially mm), shit op, shit everything. u guyz r a mental pollution just by reading briefly ur dirty laundry. pfft

    August 28, 2011 at 2:02 am Reply
  32. Red5x5

    Who is this BORG?

    August 28, 2011 at 6:42 am Reply
  33. some_dood

    "respect for chib" i was skim reading the last bit when i saw that, and thats about when i decided to fuck the rest of the article, cause rivierini (as much as i "love" the guy for making this site), combined with a borg member that believes that chib is a respectful person can mean only one thing, endless endless bullshit.

    August 28, 2011 at 8:11 am Reply

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