The Red Orchestra which is Eve News24 Russian intelligence branch is comprised of several members high up in several ex-soviet bloc alliances which include DRF and AAA ranks, they have been deployed in both WhiteNoise and -A- sides during this conflict providing us with live intel from the battlefield as the battles happen.

This week T-RPFY and HED-GP has been one of the hot buttons of the DRF spearheaded attack on -A- dominions, being featured two days in a row in Dotlan’s most violent systems, one of the WhiteNoise. member decided to make a two part battle-report of his experiences, here is part one:

Battle Report

18:00 – 01/08/2011 – T-RPFU Solar system. Solar Legion of Red Noise dark overlord Nync issues form up command. Hordes of DRF members were coming to T-RPFU from every corner of evil empire bringing battle tested artillery abaddons. DRF War Machine in all its beauty appears in T-RPFY.

DRF Fleet regrouped on Titan and was waiting for moment to make its move.

SV5-8N Cyno went up and fleet bridged on HED-GP gate where it met with NCDOT fleet.

NCDOT FC made bold move and decided to jump into hornet’s nest first. Nync decided not to waste time so DRF fleet followed immediately. Fight started as soon as we entered system. AAA fleet was stretched; some were sitting 0 at gate while others were shooting from 50-70 KM range. Primaries were cold and we started to shoot. AAA & Co had no chance to tank DPS that was coming from 200+ artillery abaddons. AAA Logistics pilots were unable to handle such DPS. It’s not a secret that DRF prefers triage carriers as logistics, but since system was cynojammed they had to stick to guardians. DRF logistics wing did excellent job saving pilots and dragging them from 10-20% hull to full armor.

Fight on gate ended up quick since Makalu Zarya understood that he will be unable handle this situation on his own. He still had 1 Ace in his sleeve. AAA Fleet warped to JB POS, DRF followed. Fight continued on POS where more AAA and some DRF/NCDOT members died. Losing more numbers AAA & Co decided to get inside POS shield and wait for backup. DRF fleet switched fire to POS modules and then to jumpbridge itself while repairing damaged ships. Soon DRF FC got intel about 140 man Razor Alliance fleet coming to reinforce AAA and AAA has additional 130 man alpha fleet waiting to bridge from GE-8. NCDOT got that intel as well since communication between two alliances is very good despite some language barriers.

DRF/NCDOT decided to show “WHO IS DA BOSS HERE!” and jumped to Razor Alliance fleet that has already arrived and was waiting on HED-GP gate in SV5-8N. AAA Cyno went up and 130 alpha fleet came into system as well. Razor/AAA fleets decided not to engage and regroup with what was left from AAA main fleet, so jumped to HED-GP without any aggression. DRF/NCDOT decided to give enemy chance to prepare for incoming slaughter. After waiting for a minute or two FC gave order to jump into HED-GP and warp to cloaky pilot that was already on spot at JB POS. Round 2 started right after DRF/NCDOT fleet landed on POS. Local was already indicating 700 pilots. Lag was still bearable and guns were cycling well. Targets were popping in seconds after being locked by DRF fleet. Some pilots were whining about being unable to lock primaries in time even running sensor boosters. After small turkey shoot razor and AAA fleet started to crawl back into POS shield.

Having no targets to shoot and watching how AAA and Razor are hugging each other in POS shield (DRF – Connecting People!) FC gave and order to take cynojammer down in order to let our big toys in. After cynojammer was destroyed supercaps and titans came into system and started to wreck whatever was lockable on overview.

After this both fleet FCs called it a day.

Once again – During this battle there was no supercap or titan used on field. They came only after we took cynojammer down!

Thanks again to logistics wing, you guys are awesome!

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110 Comments

  1. Blandy

    I hope -A- and friends win this war tbh the last thing we need is more null sec space falling to the Russians and there crazy supercapital fleets. Unfortunatley though it looks a lost cause and I think NC. are pathetic they claim they want good fights but theres hardly any 0.0 alliances left to have good fights with now and its getting worse if -A- die you can pretty much guarantee Stainwagon/Rol will also be killed, and whos left then? Goons/Test and the random smaller alliances in Delve and Providence who lets face it cant defeat the Russians either

    And with the Russians supercapital power and the fact that its so easy to move supercaps from region to region quite literally no one can counter it. Sure you may be able to win fleet fights with subcaps but supercaps are the end game of 0.0 sov and if you dont have more than your enemy you are pretty much fucked. The supercap nerf cant come soon enough tbh before 0.0 truly is a 1 man band

    August 3, 2011 at 12:35 am Reply
    1. nc. member

      u think that the only figths that we have agaist AAA are posted here? yeah dude we have good figths 😀 you just dont know what u talking about :(

      August 3, 2011 at 1:12 am Reply
      1. oh please

        say you are fighting other people all you want but you still answer to your master which makes you a pet

        August 3, 2011 at 3:18 am Reply
        1. nc. member

          yep we are pets and we rape ur lolgeddons fleets 😀

          August 3, 2011 at 3:55 am Reply
    2. rawr

      so many of the smaller alliance you mentioned are -A- allies.. dont forget that.

      August 3, 2011 at 1:52 am Reply
    3. Jeremy Clarkson

      have you ever botherd to ask you self why no one else has so much supers, cos they dont come as a gift, now russians and PL are to be blamed cos everyone else was stupid and not buliding or buying them

      August 3, 2011 at 10:27 am Reply
      1. sour

        damn i knew i was doing something wrong when that bot didnt work on my laptop and never bothered to fix it 😛

        August 3, 2011 at 1:28 pm Reply
      2. Far

        Yea, there was some shortsightedness.
        Most of us were too busy playing the game to setup a bunch of proxied botting accounts and rent out huge tracts of nullsec to pay for supers. But the DRF Russians, well lot of them do it for a job, so it pays (literally) to plan ahead for complete nullsec domination.
        When the stakes are different, you play accordingly. Well, unless you're Vuk Lao that is.

        August 3, 2011 at 3:58 pm Reply
        1. Turbohugh

          GOONS have a Cap fleet they just dont commit. They were used to PL holding their hand but they Pissed off PL so much now they have to step up.

          August 3, 2011 at 6:55 pm Reply
      3. bagehi

        There are plenty of other people out there with them. Problem is that the NC FCs whelped a few into lagfests and now most of the non-DRF super pilots aren't willing to follow any of the available non-DRF FCs into another large battle. There isn't a lack of supers, there is a lack of faith in FCs who would otherwise have access to super fleets.

        August 3, 2011 at 7:07 pm Reply
    4. oh my

      Didnt the DRF buy a lot of their supers from the former NC ne ways. So all you complaining about them having a ton of them (especially those from former NC alliances) have no one else to blame except your capital ship builders.

      August 3, 2011 at 3:00 pm Reply
      1. Hindsight

        Oh ok, it's alright then.

        August 3, 2011 at 10:37 pm Reply
    5. RUSSIAN ZOMBIES

      -A- WILL NEVER DIE

      August 4, 2011 at 12:16 am Reply
  2. ROL Guy

    900 ppl in local and still the lag was like having 1500 ppl in local.. ROL fleet was lagged out and drifted 300 – 400 km away from enemy fleet and my overview they where still 30k from me. -A-s fleet was the only fleet that could hit anything they ofc got wiped out. After a while ROL fleet logged off and many of us couldn't login again. Some smart GM started to move some people from system and then of course everyone wanted to be moved..and of course they couldn't do that.. so a lot people got pissed and lost ships that way when they logged in again.

    CCP said that the GM that started to move people did wrong.

    To bad the lag was so bad..we had about even numbers so it could had been a good fight..

    August 3, 2011 at 12:39 am Reply
    1. -a- guy

      ROL Guy, Just a FYI, The battle described in this article was from yesterday, what you're talking about was the one today. (where the lag was indeed unbearable)

      August 3, 2011 at 1:57 am Reply
      1. En Guards

        Yeo, thats true but best part was GM "moving" people from fleet away from the fight……… seriously WTFUCK.

        It was like: oh wait to fix lag im simple gona take your fleet and move some members away.

        August 3, 2011 at 7:22 am Reply
        1. Gaius_Bismarck

          wtf?

          August 3, 2011 at 8:21 am Reply
    2. IEG logi

      was gonna say the fight in the mail was not 900 people in local, as a IEG tripple guardian pilot, i saw max, 750 people in local. also, reps were a little slow as the whole logi wing (27 of us) had 40-50 second cycle time on reps.

      August 3, 2011 at 8:39 am Reply
  3. (:P)

    hey NCdot, come back north, we're bored already.

    August 3, 2011 at 1:23 am Reply
  4. MindRanger

    The fleet I was in went from 200+ to 90 within a minute or two after bridging in. Over half the fleet DC'd or didn't load anything but a black screen, far less the grid. At first the rest of us could to a certain degree lock targets, but guns would not cycle much – if at all, the next 30 minutes.

    In the end the system was just all locked up, even after 4-5 logoff/logins the ship did not respond at all. Keep in mind most the kills on -A- side occured directly due to lag – or after the battle, when parts of the fleet tried to get out through camped gates (either by DRF/NC. or Initiative).

    I think the general consensus on the -A- side was indifferent in terms of whether or not DRF won, we all like good fights – some you win, some you don't. However, the attitude against CCP was rather disturbing, although this time it wasn't so emo as it was "sigh, oh well, they're doing their best… at least we're having cool monocles and boots to drive around in the rusty Fiat they advertise as a Maserati"

    So cheers mates, why complain about lag when we can watch nice advertisements at station dressed in cool monocles? 😉

    PS! I did fraps this battle (T-R), but I'll be the first to say that its not very entertaining – not at all. I'll however send the link when done rendering :)

    August 3, 2011 at 2:12 am Reply
    1. La Lola

      the same happened in DP when -A- brought 1200 pilots before we even jumped and I rememebr IO people shouting how good they were vs our 400 so you have 0 simpaties, just die already -A- and friends

      August 3, 2011 at 11:23 am Reply
  5. Imigo

    "Lag was still bearable and guns were cycling well"

    Nice to hear about a semi-large fight with bearable lag, so credit where credit's due. Shame CCP can't do this more consistently though.

    August 3, 2011 at 2:15 am Reply
    1. plus repped for justice.

      August 3, 2011 at 2:42 am Reply
    2. I was there<<< lol Lag was fucking horrific. Even with cycles off, the shitty lag kept the guns cycling for about 8 to 9 cycles after the targets were dead. I know when I died it took me 20 minutes to die after the fact of re logging only to find out my pod was also in some state where I could not dock. Whoever wrote this has noway and hell to give props to CCP.

      August 3, 2011 at 3:13 am Reply
      1. Gaius_Bismarck

        lol was pretty much the same in HED. when my phobos went down i went for a smoke. when i came back the phobos was still orbiting the anchor. not to mention the anchor died about 10 mins befor me, lol.
        yeah, resonable lag….

        August 3, 2011 at 8:27 am Reply
    3. C Guzzler

      We were neutral to this whole fight looking to kill anything we could, and our scout jumped into T-R and we had to wait 10-15 minutes for him to get back to the gate and leave. Bearable lag my ass…

      August 3, 2011 at 3:17 am Reply
    4. lawl

      lag was bad. this website has so much biased "reporting"

      lawl

      August 3, 2011 at 4:34 am Reply
      1. BosnianHitman

        Notice this is listed under "Battle Reports". Battle Reports are submitted by people involved in the fight, and as such, can be incredibly biased towards one side.

        It even says at the top that this was submitted by a WhiteNoiseDOT guy. Do you think the submitter is going to write about anything that makes -A- look good?

        August 3, 2011 at 5:58 am Reply
  6. oh well

    well even if supers get nerfed it does not really matter. the DRF will win this war just because they have better FC and can bring large BS fleets.I dont want to see half of eve be under one power block but it is looking like it is going to happen. which will be the death of eve but oh well. The one powerblock that could of beat the DRF was the NC but their leadership was fail

    August 3, 2011 at 3:15 am Reply
    1. SkullDawggie

      With that attitude you should just quit eve. perhaps take an anatomy class whilst you're away from eve and learn the difference between your asshole and your elbow.

      August 3, 2011 at 1:50 pm Reply
  7. Mintrolio

    CONFRIMIGN I DO THIKN I REMEMEBER THET CVA DO KILL ALLES AAA IN PROVINGDENSE

    ALSO DO NOT CVA TO KILL ALL AAA DREDNAUHGTS IN GRATE BATTEL OF D-G ?

    ALSO AAA SEAM NOW TO HAVE MANY SPACE BACK AGAIN.

    ALSO I REMEBNER AAA TO BEIGN VER MIHGTY WARIOR AND FEERLESS – I DO RECALLIGN SEE THEM LUANCH MANY TITAN IN FIHGTS IN HED ONE TIMES IN 3 WAYS ACTSION.

    ALSO I THINK THIS NOT ENDIGN WELL FUR ATTACKER EVEN IF IS MY DRF BROTHRES.

    KEEP UP THE GOOD POASTIGN!

    August 3, 2011 at 3:28 am Reply
    1. Casual Viewer

      What?

      August 3, 2011 at 7:19 am Reply
    2. who cares

      tooooo much vodka!!!

      August 3, 2011 at 9:28 am Reply
    3. AAA nobody

      Seriously for a second….

      Say DRF do take ALL of our space, what then? I mean, we are not just going to walk away and you know that. You're going to live in GE like INIT with its pets? We have been down this road before and it always ends up a LOT of fun for us.

      This campaign had fail written on it from day one.

      August 3, 2011 at 1:53 pm Reply
    4. Maid

      I like to call you up for some 3way Titan action, this shit is h0t

      August 4, 2011 at 2:24 am Reply
  8. Scevvin

    don't worry fellow pixel-pilots: it may look bad right now, but russians and friends will spread themselves far too thin in a matter of a few months. leaving open their deep-space areas extremely vulnerable to guerilla warfare tactics, this will be the time for the "unimportant" and "unnoticed" alliances in EVE to strike; and, i welcome it whole-heartedly 😀

    August 3, 2011 at 3:54 am Reply
    1. PL+NCdot+DRus 4eva

      In a few cynos + 10 mins we can have our entire supercap fleet hotdrop you from the other side of the map. All the while you scrubs will be slowly slogging through a mere half a region using your badly nerfed jump bridges for half an hour, how's that for nerfing 'power projection'.

      Even if you had 2000 people in your fleet they couldn't do shit against even 100 of us in our invincible supercap blob. The only way you could defeat us is with more supercaps than we have. By the time you could build 50 supercaps, we will have built an extra 500 ontop of the 300+ we have right now.

      You will never catch up to our supercap numbers, and therefore you can never defeat us.

      August 3, 2011 at 4:14 am Reply
      1. zorg

        nerf in the winter is coming

        August 3, 2011 at 4:18 am Reply
        1. PL+NCdot+DRus 4eva

          It will be over long before then, from Delve all the way to Branch will be ours. Only goons will be left on the map.

          We will soon tire of these good fights and deploy all our supercaps en-masse to end this quickly and unstoppably. All the while, you idiots will probably continue fighting each other while we wipe out all of AAA, then stainwagon, then delve thunderdome.

          August 3, 2011 at 4:28 am Reply
          1. PL+NCdot+DRus 4eva

            And goons will be next after Delve is taken. Even after the so called supercap nerf, they can't match our numbers, our endless isk fountains and CTA'd renters from one side of the map to the other.

            August 3, 2011 at 4:33 am
          2. guest

            stop wasting your life on a game

            August 3, 2011 at 5:36 am
          3. Crowd Control

            So… reading all you said, my only question is: Are you a Testie or a Goon?

            Your PL/NCdot/DRF impersonation is really bad, because:
            – Many of this alliances players are old vets that do know that overextending is not smart;
            – No one from this alliances would gloat about supercaps, since, for them, they are only war vessels as sub caps are. Just another part of the game…

            By making this kind of post you are just trying to make these alliances look "evil" and score some points on your "supercap nerf" demand.
            Just remind something… when the nerf comes it will be for everybody. Goons+pets won fights in Deklein because they were using subcap blobs, under a cyno jammed system, with the support of their own supercaps, and even so many times your ass cheecks got clinched with the treat on your cyno jammer.
            Guess what, even with the nerf, supers will be powerfull, but your odds to survive under a cyno jammed system will be lower…

            August 3, 2011 at 10:53 am
          4. You sound pretty mad

            quote: "No one from this alliances would gloat about supercaps"
            I think that was the point he was trolling you guys about.
            http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_related&kl
            Oh god, ~our supercap backbone~ without that one titan, we're ruined. It was obviously the only reason we rape caged 50 supers, and wiped out hundreds of billions of hellcats and thundercats.

            You sound pretty nervous about this supercap nerf bro, at least you will still have your unrivaled subcap superiority against those small handful of thin skinned goon elite pvpers that defeated your vast well led armada exclusively because of their invincible supercap blob… oh.

            August 3, 2011 at 1:18 pm
          5. Crowd Control

            Mad?!? Me?!? Are you mad bro?

            Your point with that link is what, when you outnumber 3:1 you don't need supers?

            I fight Goons+pets since i start playing this game, and so i've learned not worry about them since their are never the real treat.
            Props to their diplimacy skills and good propaganda machine, since they are always able to get powerfull friends and gloat about the achivements or decay of others, like they really mattered for that.

            Why should i be nervous about the rebalance? In the end there would be the same people deploying them even without the security of cyno jammers…

            August 3, 2011 at 2:42 pm
          6. Madman

            "Mad?!? Me?!? Are you mad bro? "
            "~lots of words~ of desperation"

            Yeah, you're pretty mad bro

            August 3, 2011 at 2:51 pm
          7. Oh No

            The super cap nerf probably wont have an overall big effect on the game, you'll just see less of them in fleet battles/hot drops….sub cap blobs will still continue to get bigger and bigger..and life goes on

            August 3, 2011 at 6:28 pm
          8. Hurf Control

            "Your point with that link is what, when you outnumber 3:1 you don't need supers?"

            So are we supercap blobbers or are we subcap blobbers now? If you want to cry to mommy about unhonorable goons, at least make your mind up as to why you were humiliated over and over again.

            HTFU <img src="http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-smug.gif"&gt; <img src="http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-smug.gif"&gt;

            August 3, 2011 at 3:19 pm
          9. Crowd Control

            Cry about unhonorable Goons?!? LOL!!

            You are sub cap blobbers that were able too sustain the attacks on Deklein, because you used as well those "evil and op" supers under cyno jammed systems. But don't think i would cry about that… Thats's the only way you can defend, so it's only normal that you would do it. Good for you!
            Just pray for a small nerf on supers, otherwise your defense strategy will get a huge blow.

            Humiliated?!? Humiliation is something like "Tonigh we dine in NOL". Jumping outnumbered into a cyno jammed system crawling with enemy supers as well, and trying to achieve an objective, even if small, it's called resolve, not humiliation.

            Keep up with the propaganda little bee… 😉

            August 3, 2011 at 10:36 pm
          10. Give me more tears

            Ding ding ding, and he bites again!

            "I fight Goons+pets since i start playing this game"

            How has that worked out for you now that you're in bob mk4?<img src="http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-smug.gif"&gt;

            "But.. but.. our consistent humiliating defeats were due to our own incompetence, not you. It was just a coincidence that our rotten structure collapsed the instant you applied your first stern kick to it."

            August 4, 2011 at 12:22 am
          11. Crowd Control

            BoB mk4… LOL! Damn you guys are funny. Btw, who are those BoB mk4?

            That second part of your post, i really dont get it little bee…

            August 4, 2011 at 10:05 am
        2. En Guards

          nerve will be Shit and wont have ANY affect. Probably will be like: ewar on a Blackops works against SCs.

          not knowing Blackops die faster then drakes and cost 2 bill.

          August 3, 2011 at 7:24 am Reply
          1. PL Grand Admiral

            We too reassure ourselves with those same words, they will never nerf the only thing that wins us our battles – they won't, they can't… right?

            August 3, 2011 at 3:34 pm
      2. lawl

        can't wait till your supercaps are nerfed

        August 3, 2011 at 4:31 am Reply
      3. saywhat

        vfk

        August 3, 2011 at 5:20 am Reply
      4. Scevvin

        obvious troll is obvious, and i love it.

        there's just one little problem to moving supercaps around, isn't there? if the cyno can't get into the system, how is it they'll be dropped into the system? with half-competent pilots, it's really not all that hard to lock a system down and prevent said hot drop.

        August 3, 2011 at 3:56 pm Reply
        1. sour

          u know u can put an emergency cyno ship in system the day before the actual battle, log it off in a ss and ur good to go.

          August 4, 2011 at 9:26 am Reply
          1. Scevvin

            right, but that cyno ship has to be placed in the correct system before the correct day. which would require a spai. which is not hard to filter out.

            August 8, 2011 at 8:30 am
  9. IEG Corp CEO

    Despite -A- and friends having the homefield advantage where they fell down was trying do battleship warfare on the cheap. Where the DRF fleet was almost exclusively artybaddons with their monstrous EHP the opposing forces mixed a few artybaddons in with cheaper fare such as tempests and geddons. They simply lack the EHP of the artybaddons meaning they were getting chewed up far quicker. Not only that but many of these geddons were laser fitted which means they were out of their comfort zone when it comes to engaging the armour fleets.

    So despite fielding more ships over the course of the battle and having some people reship the main issue was the lack of EHP on the field with regards to -A-. If they cannot pull out some tighter fleet compositions in the near future I see -A- being rolled up in a similar timeframe to Northern Coalition.

    Heres to more goodfites. :)

    August 3, 2011 at 4:09 am Reply
    1. -A- Victor

      you sound like you actually contributed something to the fight…sorry who are you again? and why should anybody care?

      August 3, 2011 at 5:38 am Reply
      1. We were there – IEGEX, 6-8 guardians rest in baddons 😉

        August 3, 2011 at 8:14 am Reply
        1. ieg guardian

          flying 3 of the ieg guardians, the lag was semi bearable. 40-50 second rep time after cycle was complete.

          August 3, 2011 at 8:42 am Reply
          1. Lord Czar

            Rofl, IEG. You might be riding with the DRF for the moment, but no empire lasts forever. They will fall, and your pathetic excuse of an alliance will be back in empire, were you belong. Go -A-.

            August 3, 2011 at 10:28 am
          2. IEG Corp CEO

            No my friend I was simply offering a dispassionate analysis of the fight from my perspective as one of the many artybaddon pilots. I am not really interested in meaningless smacktalk but you fill your boots mate. Whatever makes you feel better.

            August 3, 2011 at 10:06 pm
          3. Lord Czar

            Smacktalk? I'm just telling you your future.

            August 4, 2011 at 4:23 am
        2. WeAreLegion

          You were? I never noticed… this is how relevant you are

          August 3, 2011 at 8:54 am Reply
    2. IEG Corp CEO

      They are indeed mad,

      August 3, 2011 at 9:59 am Reply
    3. Geez

      IEG = Little, Fat, Kid that gets to be waterboy for the team, not sure what is more pitiful your fighting prowness, or your slobbering over the Russians who let you tag along on a grown up outing.

      August 3, 2011 at 11:12 pm Reply
    4. sour

      mr ieg corp ceo u r out of realities touch. had the rol ahac fleet loaded system, u would see how effective ur artiabaddons would be.

      August 4, 2011 at 9:37 am Reply
    5. DASOUF

      You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, which is normal for IEG members. Geddons/Hellkittens are a totally different fleet doctrine from artybaddons and are used in a totally different way. No one expects you pets to understand this, but posting in ignorance just makes you look bad 😉

      Also, lulling at you guys talking like you had anything at all to do with killing the former NC. You had _ONE_ guy killwhoring on the northern campaign to show up on the kb's. You are irrelevant, get over it haha.

      August 5, 2011 at 1:10 pm Reply
  10. No one important

    "DRF – Connecting people!" LOL!

    August 3, 2011 at 4:27 am Reply
  11. -A- Victor

    Bring PL please, so that the rest of eve can realize how utterly shit you are, and that without your l33t pvp mercs you are no good for anything. You have the most terrible pilots and the most terrible FCs in eve. You have tried to roll us last year and we have come back strong, this year you will try again, I wish you the best of luck because with your narrow view on strategy and tactics you will need it. The only thing that you are actually better at than -A- is shitposting. And just for your information, when you have 200 bs against 100…and then call it some sort of a victory because of better FCing…sorry you are an idiot.
    isk can buy supers, isk can buy you abaddons, isk can buy you mercs. But no amount of isk will buy you skill, so here is to the soon ex-DRF empire.

    August 3, 2011 at 5:14 am Reply
    1. BosnianHitman

      I'm sorry, but I had to respond to this.

      I seem to recall 46DP being 1200-1300 -A- (Already loaded in system) VS 400 DRF (jumping into system)

      Judging by the trashtalk that IO and friends spew, it seems the general consensus is that -A- won that fight because of good FCing. Now, I admit a 200 man BS gang killing a 100 man BS gang isn't strange, but why is a 1200+ man fleet killing ~400ish man fleet attributed to better FCing?

      August 3, 2011 at 5:51 am Reply
      1. Jay

        In 46DP

        It wasnt that it was super FC`ing from -A- even though it was good. More like very bad FC`ing fom RA around logging and relogging from its supers which caused the titan to get downed.

        So the FCing of the russian block is poor I would suggest some of this is down to the duality of the languages. But hey anyone in the middle of a lag fest who says Log off then a few mins later after the numbers drop to below 800 say oh well it must be ok now so log back in to increase numbers back to the laggy hell it was.Is compleatly mad. No suprise from the russians then.

        August 3, 2011 at 10:51 am Reply
      2. Dave from IT

        you smoke crack much?

        August 3, 2011 at 10:52 am Reply
    2. Zavulon

      ass pain?

      August 3, 2011 at 12:25 pm Reply
  12. JP Stellar

    He who bots best, blobs best?

    August 3, 2011 at 6:06 am Reply
    1. oh my

      with that logic your saying that Goons are some of the biggest botters in the game now along with drf since they use massive blobs as well

      August 3, 2011 at 6:13 pm Reply
  13. Arlekyn

    The battled in HED was decent in terms of lag, I was flying a guardian and I experienced extremely low lag (about 10secs or so). Local was around 300-500 if I remember right. Both sides scored nice numbers of kills with DRF coming on top due to better setup and a fair larger amount of bs-es. This battle was indeed one of those "good fights" that everyone cheers for, with shit being blown really fast.
    The last night battle in T-R is a totally different story (at least for me) and it's simple to describe: the order to take the titan bridge finally sounds in the TS, I jump, system won't load for about 7-8mins at which point I decide to make a random planet-moon warp and relog there. After relogging, which takes about 3-5mins of black screen, I finally load the system, but trying to join fleet proves to be impossible, with ship being completely lagged out and unresponsive. After about 3-4 re-logins attempts, all unsuccessful regarding fleet joining, a retreat order sounds in TS, being told to use autopilot. After looking at my screen for about 5mins saying "jumping" I decide to do another re-login. I find out that I actually jumped, but won't let me pass the black screen. About 10mins later, I make another attempt, logging is almost instant, I am being warped directly back on T-R gate where I promptly die (without traces of lag… the irony) to the DRF bubble setup.
    So two different systems that acted like two different games: Eve Online and … whatever you want to call the lag in T-R.

    August 3, 2011 at 7:14 am Reply
    1. AAA dudet

      Yep HED was GF. WN + pets although they had some number advantage, they won fair and square. It was a fun and enjoyable fight. T-R was fucking shit.

      Why not gight WN one on one? AAA and WN are similar in size. Simple let Maka and WN fc tell all blues to GTF out of system and see who is better. No lag, no blob, no you bring more bshit. Just Gfs.

      August 3, 2011 at 11:17 am Reply
      1. South

        WN lack the balls for anything solo.

        August 3, 2011 at 1:42 pm Reply
  14. sour

    yesterdays fight (02/08/11), if that can be called, was the shittiest situation i have been in my 3years stay in 00. over 5h of cta and all the action i personally saw was this: sometime after 10-15 attenpts i manage to log into sys, drop on a huge neut gatecamp (not even drf), then prompty die. thats a bout 10secs of action for 5h long cta. cant say i enjoyed it much :p

    most of rol fleet had a same luck.

    August 3, 2011 at 8:03 am Reply
    1. SkullDawggie

      Yup. The petition responses from CCP were typical/comical. The "Lag" and their blame is on all of the FC's for not telling them there was going to be a fight. Apparently CCP doesn't read en24.

      August 3, 2011 at 1:52 pm Reply
  15. Arlekyn

    For those of you who posted about the huge lag, this BR refers to the fight in HED where lag was indeed bearable, it was just a bad call from A-Block to call for alpha fleet (geddons would've done much better). Just as they did another wrong call to bring geddons into T-R (alpha would've worked a lot better under heavy lag).
    I have great doubts that T-R node was reinforced, while HED certainly seemed reinforced. As a side note, after the supers were jumped in, lag didn't increase (no idea if fighters/fb's were actually deployed), but also there was no more fight, but rather DRF supers killing/inacapping pos mods.

    August 3, 2011 at 8:26 am Reply
  16. Afr1can

    As a concerned/alarmed Delve Refugee, I sincerely hope we get deployed to fight the DRF/NC.dot menace.

    PS Whats the story of Evoke putting up staging towers in http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/KFIE-Z.

    Next door to RC space and not far from Nulli space I guess, Anyway Ev0ke Welcome to/Croeso i Delve.

    August 3, 2011 at 8:29 am Reply
  17. SW member

    i jumped to system , got lagged out on gates , 5 times log in was failed , after couple of hours i logged in o/ in station in a pod ^^ YAY iwas able to station walking !! GJ CCP

    August 3, 2011 at 8:47 am Reply
  18. Darthbumholio

    T-R was too -A- what 46DP was too the DRF . It goes back too the old saying of whoever loads first wins. At least we can take solace in the fact when we are podded we can walk around of quarters trying on a set of nice boots and watching the news reports in our monacles -.-. Props too the -A- bloc for coming too the party and look forward too the next one….

    August 3, 2011 at 9:49 am Reply
  19. sour

    yesterdays fight (02/08/11), if that can be called, was the shittiest situation i have been in my 3years stay in 00. over 5h of cta and all the action i personally saw was this: sometime after 10-15 attenpts i manage to log into sys, drop on a huge neut gatecamp (not even drf), then prompty die. thats a bout 10secs of action for 5h long cta. cant say i enjoyed it much :p

    August 3, 2011 at 9:52 am Reply
  20. SW GRUNT

    LAG WINS EVE

    August 3, 2011 at 10:18 am Reply
  21. Guest

    Interesting, loose 1 : 3 having a a bit more ships… http://EVEolution.de/brdoc/?tiny=10287435

    August 3, 2011 at 11:18 am Reply
  22. Mr. Nobody

    -A- should go back to SW and kiss Tek boot and swear you'll wait them with killmails. AHAC fleet would have changed the outcome.

    August 3, 2011 at 12:43 pm Reply
    1. daniel

      that will not gona happen.
      SW will be fucked too is -A- fail cascade.

      August 4, 2011 at 10:47 am Reply
  23. Afr1can

    As a concerned/alarmed Delve Refugee, I sincerely hope we get deployed to fight the DRF/NC.dot menace, plus I miss HED-GP.

    August 3, 2011 at 1:38 pm Reply
  24. omgigothitbyabus

    tbh on long term dfr will win eve cause they have now: the most supers ingame, the most isk income ingame.. Therefor they can trow enless subcaps caps to everyoen and simply dry them out. Thx ccp ateast we can walk in station while due your poor balancing eve gets horrible broken. U did a good job on getting the power bloc's busted but there is a fragile balance that is overshooting itselve atm

    August 3, 2011 at 3:37 pm Reply
    1. Be cool honey bunny

      Whow whow whow, calm down – supercaps will soon be pos decoration and pretty much anyone with a tech moon can throw subcaps at any problem till the end of time.

      August 3, 2011 at 3:53 pm Reply
  25. Micha

    Well DRF and Co did slaughter AAA etc in this battle,but over half of Rol/AAA friends had blackscreen and couldn't even logg in after trying to relogg so DRF should be happy they got some free kills.
    Then INIT was camping one of the gates with a small fleer while many of us from AAA jumped and lagged out getting free kills.
    the lag was even worse then many of the 1500+ local fights.

    August 3, 2011 at 5:45 pm Reply
    1. raath

      You notice how when it's a red of the russians who gets a spanking, the articles go on and on and on about the superiority of the russian forces, but when the russians get a whipping it's all about the "unbareable lag"……..

      HED – Oh yeah, superior fire power, better FC, hahaha
      46D – blame CCP, it was the lag. Lag made us loose…….

      evenews!!!!! Fire riverini and get a proper nullsec reporter, not a propagander merchant.

      I don't care on the oppinion of the DRFs play thing, I want to know what the real news is

      August 3, 2011 at 5:56 pm Reply
      1. BosnianHitman

        So let me get this straight…

        Riverini, an ex-NC member (the guys who lost the north to the DRF) and operator of EN24, is biased towards the DRF?

        Are you fucking retarded?

        His article about 46DP was his own words about how the RA SC fleet could of been welped. It was not an excuse for the DRF. He even went so far as to say that if the lag had been better it would of been a repeat of 020, the fight that essentially broke the NC.

        This article was written and submitted by a WNDOT guy. Riverini just posted it up under his name because he can't go around giving random people access to the admin side of the website.

        I understand not everyone can be smart, or even moderately intelligent, but Jesus Christ.

        August 4, 2011 at 4:54 am Reply
  26. An AtlasDOT Soldja

    <<<I was there for T-R. It was indeed a battle of "he who lags least, fights best". Allow me to break down some real numbers and situations that show how completely effed the situation was:

    1. Local spiked over 800. We bridged in and engaged DRF forces near the station….which is an overstatement. I say that because the process of what occurred in that sentence was the first twenty minutes of the fight.

    2. We touched down and engaged the DRF Baddon fleet in a mix of Amarr BS, using Guardians for reps while the DRF was relying on caps. We began to tear down their Damnations and locked their Archon, and that's where it all really went to shit.

    3. Guns didn't cycle: we had to ungroup our weapons and spam the F-keys. That's right guys, the lag was so bad we were back to fighting like it was 2005. People were trying all sorts of tricks, from clicking gun icons to moving modules around, trying to clear up the lag on the turrets alone. Orders were given to focus on putting drones on primaries, as they tend to lag less. However, my Garde's were still hitting a target that had registered dead for 10 minutes when they gave me damage counts.

    4. Broadcasts had a 2 to 5 minute delay. We were forced to rely on an overview with broken distance reports and ship counts to lock targets. Locking a target in broadcast typically led to a ship that was already dead.

    5. Modules stopped responding altogether. Both sides were taking heavy losses because on the Coalition side, most of the logis crashed when they came in, and on the DRF side, the carriers couldn't lock new targets before they burned. They were forced to rep each other and hope for the best.

    6. Here's a fun one. I was dead for 20 minutes or so and still fighting. I'd been in the fight awhile but was finally called as a primary. God knows when this occurred. My geddon burned down fast, as noone could rep it. However, while my "ship was out of control" when I tried to move….suddenly I stuck at 1% structure, nearly all of my modules went offline, and I was still flying. I was able to lock two more targets and shoot them because I managed to get two of my guns to go online again; I was a ghost ship and was getting on killmails but couldn't be shot. I was using the modules that were to drop from my ship.

    7. Eventually condition 6 there broke and I just started floating away. I spun around my anchor (sort of) but could lock nothing new, as ships and drones on both sides were dying and the lag was slowly catching up. I relogged to find myself in a pod, and couldn't go anywhere. At all. After that I relogged 4 more times, waiting at least 5 minutes each time to re-enter the system. FC had given orders to everyone to retreat to celestials but noone could move. The bubbles were long dead; the lag had us all tackled.

    8. After the fight, there was a ghost DRF Abaddon stuck at a gate in a nearby system. It was a ghost ship; invulnerable, but had a pilot so you couldn't board it. We later managed to bump it away from the gate, but it reapproached and sat at 0 all day. We even bombed it, nada.

    GF to DRF, and lolz that we reinforced your entire staging area later. That was a bent fight on all sides. I say we all wardec each other and then go do this in Jita, that'll get CCP's attention.

    August 3, 2011 at 6:11 pm Reply
    1. An Atlas Soldja

      Oh, and local? I showed 795 max. But it was more than that. Local's counter quit working.

      August 3, 2011 at 6:13 pm Reply
  27. Anon

    The time will come when 0.0 will stand up against the DRF and none will feel it harder than their pets.

    Do you think that WN will protect you NC.??

    August 3, 2011 at 8:11 pm Reply
  28. Ice Age Lag

    I'm waiting for another video from CCP, part 2, called "I froze there" .. something about a ceptor pilot speeding towards the enemy fleet, passing by the enemy fleet… and being able to turn off mwd after 10 min thousands of km far away from the battlefield… asking himself "wtf?!"

    August 3, 2011 at 9:40 pm Reply
  29. Alex

    shouldnt there be someone to attack tribute now as NC. abandons it?

    August 3, 2011 at 10:08 pm Reply
    1. Geez

      The Goons can't even win in Syndicate and everyone else is too far away so there it sits undefended.

      August 3, 2011 at 11:03 pm Reply
    2. Caustic Castration

      they left snot shot the super blob errr l33t peeveepee'rs mascot up north….. that is defense enough

      If you like good fights thats the mantra but your actions fall far short of your deeds or are you just getting bloated due to the shit which is usually attracted to the "Winning Team" and thats really all you can do?

      Your so NC right now it untrue, shame you don't even see it.

      NC. DRF = BFF

      August 3, 2011 at 11:23 pm Reply
  30. SRN
    August 4, 2011 at 10:31 am Reply
  31. David

    Sorry Red Orchestra has t2 DRONES, CCP WINS (LAG)

    August 4, 2011 at 2:39 pm Reply
  32. herpderp

    GOD evenews with your shitposting. When -A- 'wins' a lagfest and downs 3 supers or about 130 bil net kills you post 'lag' won. When DRF 'wins' a lagfest with only about 10 bil net kills it's a massacre….

    August 4, 2011 at 4:15 pm Reply
  33. abc123

    THE FOLLOWING WAS POSTED ABOVE – WHEN YOU START TO THINK ABOUT IT DOES HOLD SOME MERIT. JUST THINK OF -A- AND DRF WITH PETS ONLY FIGHTING IN JITA. THE WHINE FROM ALL THE EMPIRE WEENIES. EPIC – PRICELESS – AND GREIFING CCP FOR THIER FAILOR TO ADDRESS THE LAG SERIOULY:

    ***** I say we all wardec each other and then go do this in Jita, that'll get CCP's attention. *****

    August 8, 2011 at 10:38 pm Reply
    1. Vet from the North

      I agree, i personally want a huge number of 0.0 alliances to go to jita and simply gatecamp all the stations/gates there.

      a 50 man t2 tempest fleet can instapop a freighter, imagine what 500 of them can do, refitting every 15 minutes, that is over 50 freighters going pop an hour (this is w/o wardecks, w/ wardecks, it will be MUCH higher, no need to refit), Simply put, grief Jita, Dodixie, Rens, Amarr, and the like until these trade hubs are wrecked. The Orphanage will not engage a well put together fleet, they just like to prey on people undocking (i suspect this will draw plenty of hate from them)

      If jita is put under lockdown for a week or so, meaning that no real quanity of ships can undock or move through the system, CCP WILL HAVE TO focus more on 0.0 if the ultimatum is given that this will not stop unless 0.0 is given an IMMEDIATE overhaul. If they still hope to ignore it, at least they will focus more on lag.

      Two main things will be done, and freighter kills for all.

      August 10, 2011 at 7:43 am Reply
  34. Boondock

    "I say we all wardec each other and then go do this in Jita, that'll get CCP's attention." This is the best idea ever!

    August 11, 2011 at 12:18 am Reply

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