Battlereport March 11,2011: -A- & Co. Call for Full Turnout, Take Massive Losses and Lose Station.

The last week was a strange one for PL; with their forums made public, everyone in Eve now knew the full PL combat strategy. The blow-back didn’t just end there, The Legion counter-intelligence network was another casualty with 67 spies being burned, stripping them of their vaunted strategic advantages. Unwilling to accept any setbacks, The Legion went out on the offensive and proudly introduced their impressive Thundercat formation on dozens of unsuspecting FCs. PL High Command decided to shift focus away from internal woes and SBU’d a few stations of A-‘s new Coalition of the Willing. The Coalition of the Willing has pledged to protect all Querious station systems at whatever the cost, expanding membership by nearly a thousand pilots in the last week. The Legion would test their resolve in L-6BE1, a station system at the heart of the Coalition.

L-6BE1: Better the Devil You Know

There had been several halfhearted attempts to save L-6B, but it was clear the Coalition of the Willing were willing to put all their eggs in the final station timers basket. As such -A- pulled out all the stops and called everyone, even going as far as calling for Super Capitals. In total -A- and their Coalition of the Willing had ~400 subcaps – mostly Drakes – and 24 Super Caps. Notably absent, however, was the contingent from Atlas.. Angry that -A- had promised to parse out some of their stations in Querious to new Coalition members, Atlas. boldly sent a message to the Coalition and added a measly 8 pilots to the vital CTA.

Poised for a swift comeback, PL were ready to use this venue to rally the troops. Stripped of their spy network, The Legion was forced to dust off their scouts and send them out in search of intel. The forward scouts, still rusty, nearly paid off landing just 40 seconds too late to bubble -A-‘s Supercapital fleet. Hoping to capitalize on The Legion’s lack of intel, -A- & Co took 220 early into L-6B and attempted to hide the other 200-man fleet. A sly attempt, though it is exceedingly difficult to hide a 200 man fleet. With -A- & Co’s main fleet strutting around L-6, it was PL’s time to respond. The Legion had fielded their Caldari-heavy Thundercat fleet so much that -A- & Co had reacted and changed all their fits to include a Caldari-racial jammer. To keep -A- honest, PL abused their ability to switch formations on the fly and – at last minute – began forming in Hellcats. Five minutes later PL’s gilded 140-man fleet stood resolute.

“These are tumultuous times friends,” High Admiral Shadoo began, ” but let me tell you something: the greater the difficulty, the more glory in surmounting it. Skillful pilots gain their reputation from storms and tempests, it is time for us to remind everyone who we are. As it stands now we can either sink or swim, so let us jump in head first and have no regrets.” The PL fleet rallied behind their talismanic leader; moments later, a cyno went up and the PL Hellcat fleet fearlessly careened into the the laggy system. Unable to contain their excitement, -A- & Co warped to the PL location and, fearing the initial onslaught, sprung their crude trap. In a matter of moments, the 150-man PL fleet was faced with a 450-man hostile fleet. With lag rendering PL’s initial bombing run moot, things were looking grim. “The greatest glory in living lies not in never failing, but in rising every time we fail,” stalwart Legion Commander Rive added. And with that, PL entered a frenzy. With an insatiable appetite for destruction. PL High Commanders would not be slowed down by lag and responding by calling six simultaneous targets. For every friendly that fell The Legion lashed out harder, making their foe fearful of repercussions. The tactic worked; after twenty minutes of high-paced fighting. the Coalition was in a stupor and didn’t kill a single ship for ten minutes.

Possessed with blood lust, the PL War Machine was both unwilling and unable to stop the slaughter; their destructive power was fully realized. After 75 minutes of intense fighting, -A- & Co finally accepted their defeat and ran from the field. Without his trusty sidekick, Makalu was utterly embarrassed and frustrated with his new Coalition. The Legion’s victory was surely great, but it did not come without sacrifice. Eighty-three Hellcats entered the theater of battle, thirty-four fell. Of the ~430 -A- & Co that showed up, some 270 fell, losing their station in the process. Earlier in the day at Z-UZ, -A- & Co lost an additional 140, bringing total losses on the day north of 400. With Atlas. sending less than 10 pilots to each pivotal fight, it will be interesting to see how many more of their allies will thanklessly sacrifice ships to defend Atlas. space. Either way, it seems as though The Legion has bounced back; with a chip on their collective shoulders, they are a terrifying force.

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Note: In a scale this large, battlereports are a bit whacked-out. -A- guys accidentally shooting themselves doesn’t help, either. Actual numbers for l-6 are: ~460 for -A- & Co (~260 losses), 180 for PL with ~45 losses (34 BS, rest support)
L-6 Fight:
Earlier Z-UZ fight:


  1. go PL

    go PL. you guys are cool. being out numbered 4:1 and wining is good

    March 12, 2011 at 12:51 pm Reply
    1. LOLnowwut

      theres something white on your lip.

      March 12, 2011 at 8:55 pm Reply
      1. dude

        Wow you saw that? I am amazed with your head all covered up in that brown stinky mess…

        March 12, 2011 at 9:15 pm Reply
  2. Truth

    PL lost 11B in ISK and got owned looking at the killboards.

    March 12, 2011 at 12:53 pm Reply
    1. Narf

      Driving the enemy off the field, winning a station plus humiliating a fleet almost 3 times your own size is not really how I would define "owned".

      And considering PL's lost ISK-fight, you really think PL cares about money owning enough moons now? And in case they get broke – they can always claim an NPC region. :)

      March 12, 2011 at 1:58 pm Reply
  3. someotherdude

    elise i hope you wont be in csm since every of your raports is full of lies

    March 12, 2011 at 1:06 pm Reply
    1. GamesDifficult

      elise for csm

      March 12, 2011 at 4:10 pm Reply
    2. Elise Randolph

      Well you can take me down,
      With just one single blow.
      But you don’t know, what you don’t know,

      Someday, I’ll be living in a big old city,
      And all you’re ever gonna be is mean.
      Someday, I’ll be big enough so you can’t hit me,
      And all you’re ever gonna be is mean.
      Why you gotta be so mean?

      March 12, 2011 at 5:59 pm Reply
      1. Simon Cowell

        Wow, what fail.

        March 12, 2011 at 11:32 pm Reply
  4. gerard

    lol pl damage control

    PL got 25% eff, they batphoned snigwaffe (goonswarm), the kadeshi, vanguard imperium, mortal destruction and few other entities, and lost 12b vs aaa &co only 6

    March 12, 2011 at 1:12 pm Reply
    1. gerard you lier

      btw waffles contribed 9 guys and the others wern't friendly to PL, hardly a batphone!

      March 12, 2011 at 6:17 pm Reply
    2. Narf

      So, 14 random Goonies is Batphoning now. Then what's called rallying 3 Alliances and blueing their moms?
      Come on, isn't losing a station and constantly being kicked around by an enemy 1/3 your size with laughable kills and still flying Drakes the thing you should be worried about?

      Also, why do you think PL doesn't give a shit about ISK? And…cue. :)

      March 12, 2011 at 6:17 pm Reply
    3. One bitter carebear

      I guess you're from -A- block, right? And now you accuse PL of batphoning?! LOL, that's hilarious! You guys really deserve to be facepunched like this!

      March 12, 2011 at 7:18 pm Reply
    4. LOLnowwut

      sniggwaffe =/= goonswarm. they just simply own the alliance name.

      sniggwaffe = the losers they are ashamed of.

      March 12, 2011 at 8:59 pm Reply
  5. Im a PL Troll too

    Yeah Elise you liar, look at those killboard links man you got owne…. oh wait. Well PL are metagaming faggots who deserve to lose, because you have loads of spie…. oh wait.

    Just fuck off ok, yeah u face raped a fleet 3 times your size get over it, we could too if we could fly battleship… oh.

    March 12, 2011 at 1:12 pm Reply
  6. The Almighty Drake

    Looks like you -A- guys are really giving your best to win the "we-outnumber-you-by-far-but-still lose-competition" against the NC. What's next? Officially rename into "Southern Coalition"?

    Batphone harder to field even moooar Drakes! 😉

    March 12, 2011 at 1:15 pm Reply
  7. pl damagecontrol

    From AAA point of view
    53 Ships killed (7.2B ISK)
    51 Ships lost (1.98B ISK)

    March 12, 2011 at 1:26 pm Reply
    1. kamphamster

      Nice. Yeah it was probably only -A- in their whole napfest that lost any ships. All the other alliances escaped without losses no doubt.

      At least the PL KB should be close to a complete representation of the battle, even if it lacks ISK value.

      March 12, 2011 at 2:49 pm Reply
      1. Che Guevara

        PL killboard will have more accurate numbers for ships killed/lost (Unless it fucks up like the BR for ZXB-VC) but it will not even be close to accurate as far as how the fight went, as killing a few drakes and losing nearly your entire BS fleet is considered "winning" by the PL killboard.

        March 12, 2011 at 7:04 pm Reply
        1. kamphamster

          What you are on to is the lack of ISK value right? Okay, estimates PL losses to about 10 bill and CoW losses to about 24 bill.….
          The only place CoW won this battle my friend, is in your wet dream.

          March 12, 2011 at 9:30 pm Reply
          1. Che Guevara

            I never said that "CoW" won the L-6 battle. The post above said what is well known fact, the PL killboard uses a quirky "point system" that doesn't take into account actual ISK. The ZXB-VC fight I referenced, the PL killboard counted everyone as friendly who didn't die, and everyone as hostile who did, even though there were some from each. The OTHER post that you were being a fucking idiot about, was a post about a different battle that had JUST taken place and as such had not had time for someone to make a new article on. That battle PL clearly lost, although PL's killboard claims a victory (Which is relevant to this conversation, because I was pointing out how skewed PL's killboard is.)

            I know you are just a PL cock hungry faggot, but stop lapping up jizz for a minute and check your facts.

            March 12, 2011 at 9:54 pm
          2. kamphamster

            You kknow I WANT to see this from your point of view, but I cant really get my head that far up my ass. Keep on dreaming Che. Or spinning. Whatever.

            March 12, 2011 at 10:15 pm
          3. Che Guevara

            All you have to do is look at PL's killboard to see what I am talking about. If you can't understand the difference between battles in different solar systems, then you either don't play EVE or shouldn't play EVE. Instead, you *think* you know what I am talking about, and start running your mouth. If you ever realize that I am talking about another event, you will probably never even acknowledge that you were wrong. All I can say is go look at the PL killboard, click on the "Battle Reports" link at the top. The reports in question are:

            L-6BE1 (PL clearly won this one, killed nearly 300 -A- ships, lost about 60)

            ZXB-VC (Not even going to speculate on this one, other than to say I was referencing this as a messed up battle report, which if you read comments from PL they even say so. All the losses are on one side, even though there are PL and TEST losses interspersed. One comment mentions trying to get Thunk to fix it, as he is the one who developed the killboard.)

            I1Y-IU (-A- and company clearly won this fight, although the PL killboard based on "points" has a slight advantage to PL, even though -A- held the field, lost very few ships, and kill almost the entire PL battleship fleet.)

            March 12, 2011 at 10:26 pm
          4. kamphamster

            Che, I want your cock.

            March 12, 2011 at 11:30 pm
          5. Points? WTF

            PL clearly has the worst KB in all of eve, since its "points based". WTF can you do with points? Who gives a shite about points? At the end of the day you can't do shite with points. Who's keeping track of points really?

            Get a real killboard based on number of pilots and isk loss.

            March 12, 2011 at 11:37 pm
          6. kamphamster

            Will blow you for 10 points..

            March 12, 2011 at 11:37 pm
          7. Che Guevara

            First off, I'm annoyed at people posting under other people's names. I might not like ya, but it's fucking bullshit that someone has to try and post fame messages from people.

            Second off, to the person above, I'm not saying point system is bad in and of itself. ISK in a fight is not a true indicator, either, although it shows who lost the most amount of assets. There are pluses to a point system. I just don't think PL's system works good, as it doesn't paint a clear picture of the battle. Losing 50 drakes a few SBs is better than losing 40 BSes and a support.

            The PL killboard puts too much emphasis on gang size, more than kills/losses. A small gang (IE PL) will always "win" a battle based on their point system, even though they lost way more assets, didn't hold the field, and lost their SBUs. The only thing PL succeeded in was getting a good fight against a large blob (And yes, that is something!) However, -A- and company won the I1Y fight on every strategic level. -A- morale is lifted because they had few losses (After so many fights with huge losses) the station is secure, the SBUs are down, PL lost more ISK and a lot of BSes. As a whole, the I1Y fight was a disaster for PL, other than the fact it will keep -A- in the area for more "good fites".

            All killboards are shit, at least the ISK value ones show the actual economic impact of a battle. -A- will stay around to lose more fleets. PL welped a fleet and lost one of about 20 battles with -A-.

            March 13, 2011 at 12:13 am
          8. Che Guevara

            Forgot to mention:

            I think someone should create a killboard that shows ISK value of assets, but only for the overall picture. For the individual pilots, the ISK and point value of a kill should be based off their contribution to the kill (Would not accurately reflect on small kills where they are insta-popped (Like an SB or frig), as fifty people might fire on the target, but only one will be counted as damaging it.

            The reason for this, is that a person who shoots once at a target like a Titan or Supercap gets credited the same amount of ISK on their killboard as someone who does 50% of the damage. I myself don't have any supercap kills, but I still have a really good record (98.43% efficiency with just subcaps) and a lot of solo and small (2-5 man) gang kills. However, people have "better" killboard stats than I do, when all they have is a couple small ships and a Titan kill (Being one of 380 people or so on the killmail.) One Titan and you are guaranteed to have a 99.5X% or higher killboard efficiency. This is not a true reflection. If the ISK value was divided by the percent of damage you did, a Titan kill (Say 50b ISK) with 380 people on it, if all did equal damage, would only net about 132m ISK on the killboard. That is more representative of the true efficiency of a player.

            March 13, 2011 at 12:27 am
          9. kamphamster

            Its cool Che. I see what u mean although I think u lost half the readers (incl me) by suddenly divert attention away from the battle that was actually reported. And as for the fake Kamphamster, its probably just a faggot PL guy that hasnt been forefed cock from his boyfriend in a while. They like to post under other guys names. I like their PVP, but as human beeings, they are really not much to talk about. Still living in your moms basement aged 30 will do that to ya.

            March 13, 2011 at 3:11 am
          10. Che Guevara

            Oh God, I live in my own basement, what does that do to me?!

            And yes, I was diverting attention from the reported battle in the one post, as I had no where else to post, since this stuff generally happens days before we get a "news update" on it (For instance, I sent an e-mail to EN24 on the 9th asking for a write-up of the O2O-2X fight. The actual battle report was posted two days later on the 11th.) I see fights and want to know what's happened, and want to get more information than what the killboards show. Since I'm not a "connected" player, most of my convo requests get rejected or I am not given information I am asking about.

            My stance on the PL killboard is not based on any particular battle, so it's not technically trying to divert attention from the L-6 fight with that post. I mentioned that the PL killboard was better for ship kills/losses as a whole, because all of their members have their APIs linked to the killboard. Other than Goonswarm, PL doesn't generally ever go into a fight with any other alliance on their side, which means that the isn't the need to check 47 different killboards to get all allied losses, and all the kills get posted automatically too. However, the PL killboards don't show the true economic aspect of the losses.

            March 13, 2011 at 3:33 am
  8. Ook Ook

    Face it, Pl beat the brakes off of -A-. There is no getting around that fact, no matter how hard you fools try to spin it.

    March 12, 2011 at 1:37 pm Reply
  9. Tash

    What supers!

    March 12, 2011 at 1:45 pm Reply
  10. Osric

    Hostile Points: 29,730 (21.08%) Friendly Points: 111,287 (78.92%)

    Yeah, we lost for sure…

    March 12, 2011 at 1:55 pm Reply
  11. -a-

    I dont think it was -A- with the friendly fire

    Elise Randalph shooting his own abaddon friends in his proteus..


    March 12, 2011 at 2:16 pm Reply
    1. Mahself

      PL proteus's generally fit small smarbombs to kill drones.

      March 12, 2011 at 3:14 pm Reply
      1. kamphamster

        Looks like a firewall, which wouldnt be surprising given the number of Drakes on the field.

        March 12, 2011 at 3:41 pm Reply
    2. Firartix

      Look the whole kill… there's more.
      The guy got attacked by 4 PL Proteus, a PL loki, and even a PL AS. I'm not counting the 2 bombers, i guess this was collateral damage.
      So much for friendly fire…

      March 14, 2011 at 8:53 pm Reply
  12. Do Your Intel

    > “These are tumultuous times friends,” High Admiral Shadoo began
    you want to make its sound like they role-play in PL and there's honor and respect for each other, but everyone who read PL forums knows that you are full off shit inside and have 0 respect for each other or yourself so the speach (if there was one) began something like:
    >"Allrite faggots, heres the deal. If you die, you warp out and selfdestruct, i want no fkin pods on killboard, got it retards?"

    March 12, 2011 at 2:25 pm Reply
  13. […] You can read battlereport from PL point of view done by our awesome Elise Randolph here :… […]

    March 12, 2011 at 2:54 pm
  14. mickey

    pl just owned your ass again. you have all right to be bitter like you are.

    March 12, 2011 at 3:12 pm Reply
  15. damn


    March 12, 2011 at 5:46 pm Reply
  16. psu

    Well count the fact that pandemic legions pointsystem is quite flawed if you wanna check an isk battle.
    1000 points for a 300 mil battleship and 800 points for a 50 mil drake… no wonder it doesnt add up with other killboards.

    March 12, 2011 at 6:09 pm Reply
    1. BntyHunter

      Its not about ISK, its about how much that ship is combat effect.

      IE a Drake is 8/10`ths of a BS which most people would agree is true.

      Points systems is way way better.
      Especially for the huge Coalitions that all kill the same target and dont split ISK at all.

      A Pilot who loses most his fights can still run over to a Titan throw a target painter on him and get 60 bil in ISK destroyed…Its ludacris, Im waiting for a Killboard that has both a great point system, Where it adds what you were flying and how many you were flying with, at the same time Divides all ISK on a Target who dies ON EVERYSINGLE PERSON ON THAT KM.

      That would be a true killboard, Now a days 50 Kills is nothing in a fleet fight, where as a 4 man team might take 2-3 weks to get 50 good kills, but you tell me whos more skilled? The SMall gang guys can hop into a fleet anytime and Lob shells at primary but its harder for a guy to fight in small gangs and be equally as helpful.

      PL has a good Idea about Points, maybe some is messed up but its pretty accurate.

      March 12, 2011 at 10:56 pm Reply
      1. Che Guevara

        I wouldn't agree that a Drake is 8/10ths of a BS, but that's beside the point.

        I agree with what you are saying (I posted basically the same thing before I saw this)

        A killboard that divides the ISK value based on who was involved (I believe your idea was divide straight up by number of participants, while mine was based on the actual damage done. However, if there was a way to use points to determine how much you did with what you had (IE, a Rifter doing 3% damage would get more ISK than an Abaddon doing 6% damage) that would be an even more awesome idea.

        March 13, 2011 at 12:33 am Reply
      2. mymindisglowing

        Both isk and the point system are important; the situation is not either/or.

        March 14, 2011 at 5:42 pm Reply
  17. Honest 0.0 guy

    This article mis-reports the z-uz fight. If you did research, you would know that -A- & co were able to break the logistics of PL. Only after their logis fell and facing the possibility of defeat did PL do what they always do in such situations: they dropped loads of supercaps. Only then did the -A- losses begin to add up. Such actions have become the hallmark of PL, is the sole reason behind their success, and is something that Evenews24 has failed to report.

    That being said, abaddons > drakes. Why? Well, because abaddons are simply better than any other type of dps battleship

    March 12, 2011 at 6:19 pm Reply
  18. Che Guevara

    PL getting cocky I guess and welping a fleet. The sad part is that with the way PL has they fail killboard, they are showing they WON that fight, even though they lost more battleships than CotW lost battlecruisers. And two of the BSes were faction worth nearly a billion ISK each. PL killed a few extra bombers, but it takes what, 10 bombers to equal one BS in terms of ISK?

    March 12, 2011 at 6:50 pm Reply
    1. Che Guevara

      The I1Y battle, PL's side shows them barely winning:

      Hostile Points: 23,120 (44.82%) Friendly Points: 28,462 (55.18%)

      While the more accurate ISK-wise report from Eve-Kill shows PL got destroyed (The following includes about 27 PL-ish capsules killed and 8 -A- capsules.) The battle report is from the view of -A-

      Kills: 84
      Losses: 62
      Damage done (ISK): 12.08B – 12084.58M
      Damage received (ISK): 2.86B – 2861.37M
      Efficiency: 80.86%

      March 12, 2011 at 7:33 pm Reply
      1. kamphamster

        "The battle report is from the view of -A-".

        Yeah, that will be accurate. Since none of the allies losses show up on the -A- KB I totally go with that view too, if I wanted to spin this.

        March 12, 2011 at 9:20 pm Reply
        1. Che Guevara

          The battle report was from Eve-Kill, not the -A- killboard. I was pointing out that it listed -A- as the "friendly" force, and PL as the "unfriendly" force. The Eve-Kill killboard is much more accurate than most killboards (Although not completely accurate).

          If you had bothered to actually read my post, you'd have known this, and not made yourself look like a twat.

          March 12, 2011 at 9:43 pm Reply
          1. kamphamster

            sorry bro, im just a troll, plus i like to suck cock. can i have some cock? plus im trying really hard to get into PL, did I already as for some cock?

            oh before I forget, here is my smug reply

            "I'm mad bro, I sound mad."

            March 12, 2011 at 11:27 pm
          2. kamphamster

            Nice troll bro, and you wont let go of the cocksucking it seems. I lets me to belive that you actually love to suck cock dont you? You seem sooo hung up on it. But you are not man enough to post in your own name. So you must be a bitch too. A bitch that likes to be forcefed cock and hammered so hard that you puke. You love that, dont you bitch?

            March 13, 2011 at 2:09 am
  19. Guest

    Elise, all good warriors know one thing;

    Respect your enemy !

    March 12, 2011 at 8:52 pm Reply
  20. U mad?

    It's funny when NC gets spanked but get the station, they win. But when PL gets the station and loss a bunch of ships to a fleet 3x their size, they lose. You guys are a bunch of hypocrites.

    Go PL!!!!!!!

    March 12, 2011 at 9:04 pm Reply
  21. Controlled Chaos

    First, I am having a hard time reconciling Elise's dramatic telling of great leaders and self confident pilots with the pack the petulant, zit squeezing, racists, fag bashing, jealous, self hating, crowd thinking cacophony of juveniles revealed in last weeks forum leak as Pandemic Legion. There are notable exceptions, Elise being one, but they are exceptions. Nice culture you guys have there. PL is in a lot of ways the top of this game right now–if that's the kind of maturity and espirt de corp I can expect when I get there–Thanks but No Thanks.

    Second, don't be fooled and allow Elise, Shadoo, and PL the write the narrative that alliance leaders act on. The truth is that PL lost a lot of spies. The lie is that it will take a year to replace them. I know for certain we did not get all of them–for one thing there is a huge hole in the Sniggwaffe forum data from last year. Besides that, its only logical that PL has already replaced the tactical spies they need now in Delve/Querious. While it may take some months to rebuild the strategic spy network that will only be relevant in the same timeframe. Regardless, PL will not act tactically or strategically without spies simply because they don't have to act without them.


    March 12, 2011 at 10:05 pm Reply
    1. Che Guevara

      We're waiting with baited breath for the Second Second. Please Finish your thoughts thoughts!

      March 12, 2011 at 10:30 pm Reply
  22. Popcorn

    In before PL starts to cry about being blobbed.

    March 12, 2011 at 11:34 pm Reply
  23. […] Region: Less than 24 hours after the slaughter reported by Pandemic Legion’s fleet, Against All Authories [-A-], Red Overlord [ROL] and Cascade […]

    March 13, 2011 at 6:11 am
  24. PL Propaganda

    PL doesn't need spies
    Spies are for weak
    PL is for fyte

    March 17, 2011 at 1:14 pm Reply

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