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Saints Amongst Sinners [SAS] – the IT renters with the cute mascot who were so fond of their one outpost in Querious were were promoted by IT from renters to allies at January 26th. They left their home (B-7) asap and relocated on request of IT to secure the area around 0-H (as they were pretty useless in B-7 from a strategic POV). By now their confidence in the war effort has collapsed completely (they didn’t fight in one CTA) and they are moving back to B-7.

SAS leadership has severed recently all ties with IT and is in discussion with Atlas. and other entities in Querious to forge a relationship.

System location:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Querious/B-7DFU

Alliance overview:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Saints_Amongst_Sinners

60 Comments

  1. BobFromMarketing

    When SAS is ditching you as an ally you know you're in trouble.

    February 9, 2011 at 9:35 am Reply
  2. Gerard

    IT seems pretty desperate.

    February 9, 2011 at 9:39 am Reply
    1. SAS Rocks

      Desperate, hmmm, there is no desperation here, just cold measured resistence, now if ATLAS. call in AAA to assist then your right, we cannot hold the our systems by ourselves, but so far we have acheived our objectives against ATLAS. You should note that we took out the ATLAS. POS in E-V and defeated their fleet..

      February 10, 2011 at 3:29 pm Reply
      1. Aaron

        LMAO, you obviously have completley no idea who Atlas are. good luck to you.

        February 12, 2011 at 7:18 am Reply
        1. Sweden

          Yeah, they're the people with 9 supercaps + large support fleet who we chased away with 20 subcaps and 2 supers. Their the people who dropped SBUs only to have them stolen by SAS, they're the ones picking at the bones of other peoples work.

          February 12, 2011 at 7:48 am Reply
        2. SAS Rocks

          Your an idiot, I know wyo the previous Atlas were, I know who DiTron Heavy Industries are, I know what ran from us in E-V as I was in the fleet that foughtthem off, I know that it was -A- and not Atlas who stopped us in BX. As for the recent killboard, some of us who fought in E-V were not on for these recent fights, so when that happens it will be fun. Fially I wonder if ATLAS will risk their small Super Cap fleet with PL around? There is plenty mileage in this yet…

          February 12, 2011 at 10:17 am Reply
    2. Duh!

      why would they want to keep there space? far as i know, they've already moved out weeks ago, at this point there only pissing around.

      February 15, 2011 at 9:27 am Reply
  3. sour

    heh who cares about those fodders anyway xD

    February 9, 2011 at 9:56 am Reply
    1. Apparently YOU do, since you promoted those fucks from renter pubbies to full blown ally scrubs.

      And then they ditched you.

      Sour AND mad bro.

      February 9, 2011 at 11:02 am Reply
      1. trydon

        they didn't want that alliance, that tower, that system that outpost that region anyway!

        February 9, 2011 at 1:40 pm Reply
  4. I can state atleast 1 of SAS corp is in talks in joining my allaince, and I am not atlas. & co nor goons nc :)

    February 9, 2011 at 11:01 am Reply
    1. 27839 of 52356

      So you're in high sec?

      February 9, 2011 at 12:20 pm Reply
      1. Bitter not-so Vet

        It could be the DRF…

        February 9, 2011 at 2:45 pm Reply
        1. 27839 of 52356

          Who?

          February 9, 2011 at 8:22 pm Reply
      2. NO I am NOT in high-sec :)

        DRF is best guess so far :)

        February 10, 2011 at 2:51 pm Reply
  5. Goon Cloaky

    from what i can gather this is not so true, SAS have taken part in many CTAs with IT, I've seen them on the battle field a few times, but when it was obvious IT planned to do no fighting of their own, in the current situation, they said "F*** this" and pulled back to their outpost taking any other abandoned alliances with them.

    February 9, 2011 at 11:06 am Reply
    1. LOL EVENEWS24

      This ^^

      February 9, 2011 at 2:22 pm Reply
    2. PsycheAnalyzer

      Can you blame them? Hasn't IT always used their allies and pets as meat shields?

      February 9, 2011 at 7:48 pm Reply
  6. The dude

    lol sas

    February 9, 2011 at 2:11 pm Reply
  7. lunatic23

    lol time will tell

    February 9, 2011 at 2:20 pm Reply
  8. SAS Rocks

    Jay, that was a more reasoned reply, so I retract the stupid comment. I spend a fair amount of my time hunting cloakies and the like and have killed quite a few, the only frigate I remember was a cloaked up Condor sitting in Sanctums to stop them re-spawning, which was kinda meh, there was a frigate gang that came in not long ago, when we went after them they ran and kept running…

    February 9, 2011 at 3:19 pm Reply
    1. Jay

      lol shouldnt write replies before i have my morning cofee :)

      February 10, 2011 at 1:49 pm Reply
  9. Goon Cloaky

    fair's fair though, i've done my fare share of jamming your CAs. "Jay" i think you exagerate a little, I hear from one of my friends in ATLAS that an SAS fleet of up to 50 is holding their supercaps at bay and reinforcing ATLAS towers in the constelation.
    I'm not about to pull up stakes and go join SAS and fail with the rest of IT, but credit where it is due.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:22 pm Reply
    1. SAS Rocks

      ATLAS may be a bit surprised at the moment… 9 Super caps at one point, had fun popping loads of Fighter Bombers.

      February 9, 2011 at 4:38 pm Reply
      1. Sweden

        Goon Cloaky, it wasnt a fleet of 50 it was less than that, and it managed to force an Atlas Supercap fleet to withdraw. I might also add that Yesterday leading up to DT and for hours after DT, SAS put 2 Atlas towers into RF secured the Atlas blokade units before they could be onlined and the couple that could be secured were destroyed.
        So this pissy alliance that has been coping so much negativity in the comments fought off the wolves at the door and they did it with out IT or anyone else.

        February 10, 2011 at 2:50 am Reply
        1. Another Goon Alt

          For being such lame ducks they are putting up a bit of a fight.
          http://killboard.atlas-dot.net/?a=kill_related&am

          They may be the only IT Blues left in Delve/Querious, but they don't seem to be running like all the others and they're fighting back. They won't last long but they seem to be having fun while they are, I tip my hat.

          February 10, 2011 at 3:34 pm Reply
  10. Just Another Goon

    Just thought I'd clarify a few things:

    SAS has not cut ties with IT. Nor have IT cut ties with SAS. They are still in communication and both consider each other allies.

    Amusing how one alliance bully tactics end up showing up here as "omgwtfnoway SAS and IT hate each other!"

    *chuckles*

    February 9, 2011 at 3:38 pm Reply
  11. PsycheAnalyzer

    I was in SAS and in the C3N battle as well, but let's cut the crap and be honest here … the lag was so horrendous that it was impossible to target anything so even if you didn't come for the CSAA, it would have been a good fight anyway but I think IT, SAS, et al would have still kicked your ass. 😉

    I left SAS just before Fountain so if IT kicked "you all", whoever that is, then that's a shame. I have to wonder if some pilots were just being idiots and didn't set the password before warping to the IT POS.

    To the cloaky goons (You're the reason I left SAS) – jamming up the fukken CAs made it unprofitable for me to stay and pay the monthly corp fees. BTW, your propaganda in local is hilarious!

    Mad props to goons StainProtector, AdmiralAckbar, OMFGWTFBBQ (dude playing many toons at the same time) living in PR-8 … I am amazed IT hasn't been able to kick you out … a real show to your PVP skill – always a pain in the ass and a great fight.

    I don't think SAS would cut ties w/ IT like that. I think the article is simply rumor. Then again, maybe it is.

    February 9, 2011 at 7:42 pm Reply
    1. Jay

      5 and a half min module lag FTW

      February 10, 2011 at 2:41 pm Reply
      1. stuck in Uemon

        is that all? back in my day (yesterday) it took us 90 minutes just to jump into system, and another hour just to warp anywhere!

        February 16, 2011 at 12:47 am Reply
  12. Anonymous

    IT is already dead, or at least its dying quickly. SAS just finally jumped off the sinking ship.

    February 9, 2011 at 7:45 pm Reply
  13. Cobokk

    So in conclusion, IT is on its death bed and even ex IT fail corps are making the news.

    February 9, 2011 at 8:41 pm Reply
  14. Tao

    FYI, SAS was never an ex IT corp. They came from High Sec as renters and grew from that.

    February 10, 2011 at 1:00 am Reply
  15. PeanutButter Cookies

    Bahahahha, you people have nothing to report on apparently.

    February 10, 2011 at 4:38 am Reply
  16. cum

    cum

    February 10, 2011 at 9:27 am Reply
  17. Random Idiot

    Erm, forgive me if I'm being a random Idiot, but when did any one mention that SAS had ditched IT? I wasn't aware that they had ditched anyone? I'm not privvy to their internal dialogue, but I'm intrigued where this intel is coming from? Much as I enjoy a slag fest I prefer my reading to at least be factual. Well, unless I'm reading EvE 24 ofcourse…..

    /me sits back and waits for the trolls.

    February 10, 2011 at 4:13 pm Reply
  18. Aaron

    The SAS leadership is extremly poor which can be seen very clearly on their killboard as every week they lose more than they kill. They had a crap fleet admiral for a long time who refused to do any kind of training or strategic planning for the guys who wernt so pvp orientated.

    SAS leadership have no idea who they up against and seem oblivious to the fact they are fighting pvp veterans with some 5/6 years experience, an organised group of 40/50 pilots will have no problem putting an end to their stay in querious.

    If anyone is to blame for the poor pvp perfomance it is thier fleet admiral called Tribalist, he was only on for 5 minutes per day, and was stupidly given the role of Alliance FA. SAS will continue to use carriers in their sanctums and not pay any attention to intel channels.

    Now they are about to get into bed with the likes of AAA and Atlas and be charged extortionate rent. SAS are fail and always will be. LMAO.

    February 12, 2011 at 7:01 am Reply
    1. Sweden

      Last I heard you were in the land of milk and honey….. and fail CEOs

      February 12, 2011 at 7:16 am Reply
      1. Aaron's best friend

        Na and tbh UNPRE leaving just made them seem the most fail. You know what is funny since we have been attacked, we have lost 2 corps and gained 4-5. The 2 that left were scared of being on the losing side and the other was never in 0.0. So the fail ceo's are no longer here :)

        February 12, 2011 at 7:26 am Reply
        1. Aaron

          UNPRE had no idea what they were doing, I dont know what other corp left you but it was a good move for them to leave SAS as your leadership will never ever listen to logical reason.

          This coupled with the fact you guys are out of your league is the reason why you will lose sov.

          February 12, 2011 at 7:46 am Reply
          1. SAS Rocks

            Aaron, why do you bother, if you had the wit to look at the battle in E-V you will see who was involved in that, and then should be able to work out who was not.

            UNPRE decided to start roaming around and being very aggresive and then were butt hurt that they were taking the most losses, really silly that. Your point of view on PryMary is correct in that battle when he multi boxed, but after that he was a good FC and did well.

            But to say that as a 2003 character you know better is kinda meh and you should realise that. And to even think that we do not know who Atlas is amazes me, come to think of it, it just shows your blind arrogance…

            February 12, 2011 at 1:30 pm
      2. Aaron

        *shrugs* believe what u will :)

        February 12, 2011 at 7:47 am Reply
    2. Aaron's best friend

      Your just bitter for being booted for being a complete dick.

      February 12, 2011 at 7:18 am Reply
      1. Aaron

        Call me what u will, The fact still stands I am 2003 and I know the game. And I know precisley what needs to happen in a fleet battle. I need say nothing more, I will allow your killboard to do the talking :)

        February 12, 2011 at 7:42 am Reply
        1. Aaron's best friend

          Just because you have been playing from 03 doesn't mean you know everything and if you think you do (like you do) it just makes u arrogant not wise

          February 12, 2011 at 8:52 am Reply
        2. Aarons Mom

          Let me guess it starts with logistics and ebd with logistics aaron face it you have more enemys in this game then ccp has patchs 2003 toon you should know better then to think you know everything this game has changed to many times do the world a favour and go jump off a bridge befroe you lose another corp

          February 12, 2011 at 11:56 am Reply
          1. Aaron

            This is SAS's problem, I never said or implied that I knew everything. I said I know what needs to happen in a fleet battle as ive seen it thousands of times since 2003.

            It is infact SAS leadership that think they know everything, this is why they are not open to putting a PVP orientated player into the alliance fleet admiral position.

            Please, carry on, SAS knows best and we will all watch your killboard.

            February 12, 2011 at 3:58 pm
  19. Aaron

    SAS made some bad calls. One of thier fleet commanders called Prymary was a walking disater zone, he would do things like FC a battle while while triple boxing 3 accounts with 2 carriers and a battleship and was responsible for losses totalling 15 billion in a very short space of time.

    Suprisingly they still let this Prymary noob FC and lose most of their alliance assets.

    To add insult to injuy Prymary then turned against SAS and attacked them along with one of IT's enemies. LMAO.

    SAS will always be fail.

    February 12, 2011 at 7:09 am Reply
    1. Sweden

      LOL, is this the same Aaron who was the EFR CEO? the one who had his corp turn on him?

      February 12, 2011 at 7:13 am Reply
  20. Aaron

    How can SAS possibly insult Atlas alliance? thats crazy!!

    Just goes to show how poor SAS really are. Atlas deserve respect for their achievments in this game.

    February 12, 2011 at 7:53 am Reply
    1. Sweden

      says the man who has a hard time getting respect from his own corp.

      February 12, 2011 at 5:34 pm Reply
      1. Aaron

        This is part of the game my friend. Your only really reffering to 1 person who I feel doesnt have any scruples. I had taught this guy most of what he knows today and have assisted him in his endeavours for almost 2 years. We have parted company and will never work together again.

        I still have a strong corp with people I have worked with for years, they have aknowledged all the support I have given them and we are in a great position to move forward.

        I feel the problem with some hi-sec guys is that they do not understand how it goes in 0.0. It will be my mission to help the hi-sec guys that have morals and prepared to do the right thing.

        All I can really say is I wish SAS the best of luck, learn from your experiences and give respect where its due.

        February 12, 2011 at 7:44 pm Reply
    2. PeanutButter Cookies

      You mad bro?

      February 12, 2011 at 5:47 pm Reply
    3. Aarons Dad

      Sorry i have to apologize to everyone that has read Aaron's retarded posting, poor chaps mentally challenged he will state his terrible idea's over and over even after you prove them wrong.

      NEVER let him join your corp/alliance plus he has so many enemies they formed a fanclub.

      February 12, 2011 at 7:56 pm Reply
      1. Aaron

        LOL, next youll be saying its my fault the SAS leadership are fail. :)

        February 12, 2011 at 11:25 pm Reply
        1. Another Goon

          U mad bro? You have a real obsession with SAS they butt hurt you?

          February 12, 2011 at 11:55 pm Reply
      2. Aaron

        LOL, proving me wrong huh? It is evident you are not capable of reading and understanding your very own killboard.

        Implementing any idea would work out much better for SAS than your current ideas. :)

        February 12, 2011 at 11:34 pm Reply
  21. ltn hoost

    evil art rocks this is the truth

    February 12, 2011 at 6:13 pm Reply
  22. Aaron

    sorry about my rants on here, I know u SAS have worked hard for what uve got, and youve invested billions. sorry for being a dick, I was outta line for what I had said.

    Regards.

    February 13, 2011 at 12:42 pm Reply
  23. The Onion FTW

    an impression of Aaron as FC:

    pre-op: how many caps do we have?

    mid-op: uh uh er um ah… um target uuuuh… [this can go on for several minutes]

    post-op: it was somebody's fault who isnt me!

    February 16, 2011 at 10:30 pm Reply

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