A very strange things can still happen in Eve Universe. Once enemies till death, Curatores Veritas Alliance (CVA) happily accepted Against All Authorities (AAA) support in taking northern part of Catch from The Initiative. and their associates.

CVA conquered sofar the whole NNLX-K (Catch) constellation, which is right nest to their space in Providence. AAA makes a smart move by utilizing the space they really didnĀ“t need and building a buffer zone between them and Ev0ke., NCDOT and Not Found. coalition. CVA gets a strong ally that can help them to start reconquesting their lost territories.

The biggest problem is CVA lack of other allies and also their low active versus the size of the alliance. Housing many long time veterans, its maximum potential seem to be around 60-70 men fleets with several supercapitals. Despite this, CVA shows as one hell of resistant and consistent enemy, having the same goals and targeting the same region for years now. No moving goals or else.

Constellation location:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch/NNLX-K

Stations controlled by CVA in Catch:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch/IS-R7P
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/BR-N97
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/ERVK-P

KB links:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8766806

Seeing AAA and CVA supercapitals together would be impossible only few weeks ago. It proves, that there are no infinite enemies in Eve and that every alliance leader has to be quit flexible and pragmatical in his approach.

43 Comments

  1. Lorren Canada

    I suppose I shouldn't be surprised… but still, I am.

    February 5, 2011 at 3:45 pm Reply
  2. Gree

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

    February 5, 2011 at 3:49 pm Reply
  3. HardinSalvor

    Roleplayers except when it suits them not to be.

    February 5, 2011 at 4:12 pm Reply
    1. BobFromMarketing

      AAA doesn't house the failed Minmatar RP alliance anymore. There's no RP reason to fight them.

      February 5, 2011 at 4:25 pm Reply
      1. HardinSalvor

        I assumed that they would hold some kind of grudge.

        February 5, 2011 at 6:19 pm Reply
    2. Garreck

      There always seems to be some poorly concieved concept that realpolitik doesn't apply to roleplayers…

      February 6, 2011 at 3:06 am Reply
      1. HardinSalvor

        Well if roleplayers always play according to what's practical and logical, then it seems to me they are then just normal players who chuck "Amarr Victor" in local. I respect RP where people do things that is sub-optimal for their ease of play but they do it anyway because they are in character.

        But I'm not a roleplayer myself, so I'm probably barking up the wrong tree.

        February 6, 2011 at 10:42 am Reply
        1. ex provi resident

          Might be a good idea to have a think about what sort of thing the 'slaver lord' Amarrian race would not do. 'realpolitik' is very Amarrian. In general Amarrians aint as nice as the ones in CVA.

          February 6, 2011 at 12:41 pm Reply
  4. o_o

    I would really like to see Providence NRDS again in the near future.

    February 5, 2011 at 4:31 pm Reply
    1. Sentimental

      oh, yes yes yes. Plesae reactivate that big carebear land so we can harrase it again.

      February 5, 2011 at 8:53 pm Reply
  5. SomeGuy
    February 5, 2011 at 4:32 pm Reply
  6. Carlos

    CVA are a bunch of retards if you ask me. They get their asses kicked out of provi by AAA and now they kiss their ass. They have no self respct if you ask me.

    February 5, 2011 at 4:36 pm Reply
    1. Ray

      Bitter much little ITpet?

      February 5, 2011 at 5:01 pm Reply
      1. Carlos

        lol no i am no way related to IT.

        February 5, 2011 at 10:11 pm Reply
        1. Ray

          Right. Sorry. Totally forgot that you are just an IT fanboy who dwells in empire belts.

          February 6, 2011 at 9:22 am Reply
    2. sex`n`plex

      before making comments, learn to fly a chimera…and next time dont agress on station u little it pet

      February 5, 2011 at 6:31 pm Reply
  7. Will be making an official statement on these matters soon.

    February 5, 2011 at 4:42 pm Reply
  8. Rob Roy

    Look at history, CVA didn't pick a fight with AAA …. LFA did. AAA always offered CVA a truce in exchange for a promise that CVA would never backstab AAA.

    CVA did not take that offer. Maybe Aralis was a bit too cocky for his own good (nooo, that would never happen…)

    February 5, 2011 at 5:29 pm Reply
    1. CVA maneuvered LFA to initiate the first phase of expanding. Spearhead.

      AAA offered CVA a return to pre conflict conditions. Nothing more, nothing less.

      Aralis was caught between a rock and a hard place. CVA had to – in his view – start operating on the realpolitik level of other spaceholding alliances, in spite of its status and that of Providence up to that point. He made a plan, it failed. It happens.

      February 5, 2011 at 7:40 pm Reply
      1. this —> "they attacked coz of failed minimatar RP alliance that was housed by aaa"

        February 6, 2011 at 12:10 am Reply
    2. 0.0 pilot

      I don't know why this myth refuses to die. CVA have stated publicly numerous times they supported and okayed LFA to "spearhead" the invasion. The only thing open to debate is the timing.

      February 5, 2011 at 9:02 pm Reply
    3. Carlos

      This is actually not fully truth. AAA and CVA agreed to a truce half way into the war, but the next day AAA just continued its attack on POSs.

      February 5, 2011 at 10:15 pm Reply
      1. Ray

        Never stop bullshitting. You are good at it.

        February 6, 2011 at 4:28 pm Reply
  9. I wanna make isk

    Don't get it twisted. -A- just wants their old hunting ground back up and running. It's as simple as that

    February 5, 2011 at 5:34 pm Reply
  10. Rob Roy

    CVA will undoubtedly reset AAA once their old turf have been recovered, thats not a bad thing …

    February 5, 2011 at 5:48 pm Reply
    1. SomeGuy

      They've been losing turf for months. Even when you include CO2 giving them 4 stations/6 systems.

      February 5, 2011 at 6:09 pm Reply
      1. No One Important

        What do you expect they face half of Eve day in and day out, they punch way above their weight, and stay focused on Providence. Dont hate cause you cant kill them, and make them go away.

        February 5, 2011 at 9:45 pm Reply
  11. Mr. Random

    Remember when CVA got hacked, and lost all it’s space? AAA stood by them and made damn sure that no one took away their favorite game preserve. As mentioned above, -A- even offered to let CVA hit the reset button AFTER the invasion. How often does THAT happen in EVE?

    Once UK left the picture, CVA and AAA had no reason to hate each other. Thus, they work together to reestablish the old status quo, or as close as they can get. Hardly a surprise for anyone who knows anything about either alliance.

    February 5, 2011 at 9:59 pm Reply
  12. Storm

    Provi is like Earth in the Movie Predator…Its a Game Preserve meant for goon hunting.

    In fact when AAA was the big boy in the South they could have killed CVA i na heartbeat instead they would send warning if peeps were gonna bust there Sov etc, While never Buddies they have a mutual silent agreement.

    February 6, 2011 at 12:00 am Reply
  13. Fenix

    Props for CVA and -A- for not failing like the other null alliances at least..

    February 6, 2011 at 1:12 am Reply
  14. i think it's good in a time like this to unite against a common enemy. But that said i wouldn't expect the sides to trust each other fully.

    February 6, 2011 at 2:39 am Reply
  15. holy thug

    allying with scum such as AAA is disheartening

    February 6, 2011 at 2:48 am Reply
    1. Ray

      Why so bitter? Did they gank your Raven in HED?

      February 6, 2011 at 9:25 am Reply
  16. AAA grunt

    "Maybe Aralis was a bit too cocky for his own good (nooo, that would never happen…) "

    On the other hand, at least we in AAA know that Aralis will stick to his guns and his group will not disband at the first sign of pressure. When a group loses its space and everything seems hopeless and its members still stick around, THAT is a reliable core.

    February 6, 2011 at 6:16 am Reply
  17. exCVA

    Aralis wasnt leading CVA at that time when the whole Catch invasion debacle happened. Lonewolfnight was the executor of the alliance and had been for close to half a year. He had a medal and lengthy posts fetish but leadership wise total zero.

    LFA was itching for more territory and had their leadership pursue the matter alot in private vt and other medium convoes with Lonewolfnight. Aralis that stubborn goat would never have agreed to that shit but Lonewolfnight was way more pliable. So when shit finally happened CVA had to stand behind their allies LFA because the holder agreement bound CVA aswell to protect it's "pets". From the pov of regular grunt this whole shit came as wtf out of the blue surprise.

    After the D-GTMI massacre Aralis wrestled control back from Lone with majority of corp leaders vote. It all got served to members as Lone had "real life" issues and other bullcrap. I never thought I would see a character assasination in such context or rather character suicide. So nowadays Lone is nothing more than an rarely seen ceo of a dead corp of alts and inactives and manages cva's web assets.

    There never has been much of a grudge or anything between CVA and AAA ever. Manny though had alot of bone to pick with CVA, no matter what he says, due to some embarrassments before he joined AAA.

    February 6, 2011 at 7:16 am Reply
  18. MyMomLetsMePlay

    manny also told us he plays WoW (lol!)

    February 6, 2011 at 9:42 am Reply
  19. -A-

    We had some planned catch the flag fights with CVA years back so there was never any "hate" between AAA and CVA.
    A respected enemy and one helluva roaming grounds in Provi back in the day.
    But it was utterly unthinkable to allow LFA expand into Catch and the "return to sanity" offer was made on several occasions, in secret to anyone in CVA leadership even after D-G.
    But Arails flat out denied it.

    February 6, 2011 at 11:01 am Reply
  20. CVA News

    This Arails person was the downfall of many of our good pilots and assets, in retrospect we see this and severe punishments will be handed out accordingly. For him, there will be no Amarr Victor.

    Also much praise to -A- as usual.

    February 6, 2011 at 5:18 pm Reply
  21. OhNoesNoobsInbound

    Awesome… CVA needed -A- to shot an undefended TCU?

    INIT. left catch/tenerifis/immensea couple of weeks ago when DRF first showed up in immensea. The space is literally abandoned and free for everyone.

    So, why is this so-called newsportal still reporting every single system that switched ownership? Who are you, Mr. van Hood? A carebear journalist, that is bored with doing L2 missions and making up stories from dotlan/verite maps? Go, get out for the interesting stories…

    And yes I'm somewhat related to Init. On the other hand, I'm right.

    February 6, 2011 at 5:43 pm Reply
  22. It's the people

    The main FCC in AAA today, Makalu, was the main FC of CVA back then. Maybe that could be the reason why they can trust each other? It all comes down to the people involved.

    February 6, 2011 at 7:45 pm Reply
    1. bitterprovivet

      Cough cough sputter sputter. Makalu was WHAT in CVA? He was at best a hot-headed FC that made for some interesting banzai fleets in HED.

      I can't ever recall him being main FC of anything. Well, not anything sane.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:12 am Reply
  23. Rhetorician

    Dear lord this was painful to read. Alliance news aside this post was barely legible. How on earth did you get a role as a writer? And who's your editor? Both of you should be strapped to a desk in an eighth grade English class until you've mastered the basics of grammar.

    February 7, 2011 at 4:14 pm Reply

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