Goonsowarm Federation (GOONS+co) and their allies defeated IT Alliance and their allies (IT+co) in Fountain. THe system of PNQY-Y was captured after a long battle, which had from minute one only one side as victor. Goons+co flooded the system and forced IT on the defensive. IT decided not to use supercapitals (they had 10 titans and 25 motherships ready) and used armor hacs versus goon alpha battleships concept.

IT Erebus piloted by The Kan got probed in the system on safe after he was aggressed/logged and got shot to structure before he disappeared.

Lag was very heavy, guns weren´t cycling, but every minute more and more IT+co ships died and in the end the rest had to safe up in a tower, where many IT allies died as they haven´t got the forcefield password.

21:37:08 Notify The station PNQ Yoshimi Outpost has been captured by GoonWaffe corporation!
21:37:16 Notify An outpost formerly owned by Tin Foil has been captured by GoonWaffe

This represents first station changing hands in Fountain for several months and whats remarkable is that IT+co got beaten in their prime EURO timezone. Despite their best effort, IT was unable to have even a slight chance to win this encounter. As there are many more structures in Fountain to be taken down, they will have more opportunities to hit back.

Interesting Forums voices:
JimFromIT http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?6913-Fountain-surroundings&p=147304&viewfull=1#post147304

Meh – as far as i can see NC/Goons won because:
a) They have more pilots that care we do (no – we quite clearly did want that station but everyone was either ratting or thought everyone else would turn up to save it)
b) We thought an AHAC fleet (we are traditionally shit at) would be good vs alpha fleet
c) We didn’t go balls-to-the-walls with the supers
d) We either pissed off/let die/killed anyone who might have came to help us so we were heavily outnumbered (might be wrong with the numbers part but meh – you can tell me to go fuck myself)

Broadcast from The Mittani (GOON leader):

(10:32:42 PM) directorbot: GOONS: Molle is furious, and demanding that his euros stay awake for the next ~infinity~ to defeat us. The war is not over; the battle itself isn’t over, as even though we have the station, we must guard our onlining TCU to ensure our primacy; we must prepare a vigil – a vigil of z0r. If you’re just joining the party from US tz, fights will be happening all night in PNQY; Use the Eye to get to B-D/J5A and we will bring in reinforcement fleets (because J5A -> PNQY has gankers, don’t run it alone). We may have won a great victory, but we can still fuck this up and lose everything we worked for if we pat ourselves on the back and consider it ‘over’. We could particularly use more Scorpions, as we lost a fair chunk of those in the previous multi-hour slugfest.

Screenshots:

Battle overview:
IT+co:
IT Alliance 160
Initiative Mercenaries 18
The Initiative. 17
Blade. 83
Black Star Alliance 51
HUN Reloaded 34
Systematic-Chaos 43
Galactic Syndicate 8
Nulli Secunda 12
Talos Coalition 33

GOONS+co:
Wayfarer Stellar Initiative 33
Test Alliance Please Ignore 158
Goonswarm Federation 158
Tactical Narcotics Team 60
Fatal Ascension 54
Sev3rance 33
-Mostly Harmless- 87
Wildly Inappropriate. 127
Fidelas Constans 18
Controlled Chaos 9
Morsus Mihi 36
R.A.G.E 90
SpaceMonkey’s Alliance 3
Majesta Empire 5
RAZOR Alliance 13

Battle results:
from GOONS+co POV
for PNQY-Y, 2010-12-22 18:16 – 01:50

Kills: 377
Losses: 155
Damage done (ISK): 32.03B – 32025.44M
Damage received (ISK): 7.76B – 7763.4M
Efficiency: 80.49%

System location:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Fountain/PNQY-Y

KB links:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8346630
http://killboard.goonfleet.com/battles/1910
http://www.killboard.it/?a=kill_related&kll_id=234704
http://init.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8345011
http://kb.ctl-q.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=90472

118 Comments

  1. devhax

    I don’t know how that titan got out, it was aggressed and ewar’d to hell. Should have been a kill, it reached structure then POOF, safe!

    December 23, 2010 at 9:03 am Reply
    1. lol

      15 minutes bro that’s how it works. We were fighting the timer and the timer won.

      December 23, 2010 at 12:49 pm Reply
      1. James T Dirk

        They should change timer to 30min or that when tackled you Dont disappear at all. Turning the game of should NOT be a viable survival tactic.

        I could be wrong but wasn’t the timer introduced to support DC, not SuperCap survival???

        December 23, 2010 at 1:48 pm Reply
      2. -42- BFF

        Actually, the FC’s were timing it. Disappeared well before 15 minutes, but well after 1 minute.

        December 23, 2010 at 6:22 pm Reply
  2. muaha

    Cool to see INIT show up in force to defend IT, oh wait 😀
    Go goons, go!

    December 23, 2010 at 9:05 am Reply
  3. EX - Atlas Guy

    damn. so is IT having lots of internal drama?

    December 23, 2010 at 9:05 am Reply
    1. Most Terrible Poster

      IT is not the IT that invaded Fountain. Simply from the numbers, 160 from IT?? That’s is *pathetic* for defense, in their prime. When IT invaded fountain, they were pulling 2 full fleets by themselves, in PL’s prime!

      500+ then vs. 150 now…

      Heck, maybe Dark Rising left IT because they knew they would have no home soon??

      December 23, 2010 at 7:19 pm Reply
  4. nig

    BoB should hire PL to take back Fountain. >.>

    December 23, 2010 at 9:13 am Reply
    1. IT - grunt

      We definitely need PL, but i doubt they will accept the call since we mocked them hard after blacking in Y2, and i doubt molle will pay 300-500bil to keep the empire together. Half of the ppl are ratting, half are afk on holidays, Init broskies didnt show up, NCdot is a joke, whoever hired them to help us is a tard.

      December 23, 2010 at 9:24 am Reply
      1. MST

        They were hired to take some pressure off the southern front, I believe, and they did that tonight (Stainwagon hotdropped THEM instead of Init :P).

        December 23, 2010 at 11:21 am Reply
      2. Jokers Wild ♠

        NCdot just wants space in provi mate they will take your isk thou and do nothing for it only +10 you so they dont kill you.

        This is smart. You get paid and dont have to PVP for it, fucken win!

        December 23, 2010 at 11:59 am Reply
  5. Junior SvK

    Hi,

    Czech , RAGE has there 90 man gang just fyi 😛 not 7 :))

    http://kb.ctl-q.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=90472

    December 23, 2010 at 9:32 am Reply
    1. BFF

      i love how 90 from way eastern NC brought more people than the Pure Blind residents lawlz

      BFF

      December 24, 2010 at 8:57 am Reply
  6. IT-grunt2

    tbh it was a nice fight , we killed about half their scorpions but we didn’t have the alpha to actually turn the sides in heavy lag.

    Goons maelstrom fleet was pretty effective in those conditions , but when you are outnumbering us almost 2-1 it’s hard not to.

    December 23, 2010 at 9:42 am Reply
    1. poastin toaster

      whaaaaaa whaaaa your blob was bigger!

      does that work for you?

      December 23, 2010 at 11:17 pm Reply
  7. SICKMAN

    Will IT Alliance siffer the rath othe GOONS/DC/NC??

    Russions had it hard just fighting the NC but won thru PL moon pewing hehe :)

    so next few Months will be very Intresting lets hope there will be Good news Reports not Spamming news:))

    December 23, 2010 at 10:09 am Reply
  8. A Clown

    Chill mates, its not over yet. Lol, not by a long shot.

    Merry Christmas, Ho,ho,ho..!

    December 23, 2010 at 10:13 am Reply
  9. lobster

    I am not sure where you guys are pulling those INIT/IM numbers(only IT kb?), but I am sure we were more then 30 :P.

    My fleet window showed around 75 in fleet whole night. We lost a lot of people duo to IT jump bridges being out of fuel and the long way we were traveling ..

    Once we came into PNQ, the lag struck and we spent next hour shooting down 5 scorpions .. Thats complete IM experience, right there!

    Whoever says it was a great fight is wrong, it was laggy shitty fight, the only great thing is victory for goons/test.

    gj CCP

    December 23, 2010 at 10:30 am Reply
    1. tow Bogdan

      Lag was way better than in Delve CSAA battle, and there you were so proud of your victory, and didn’t whine about lag… :)

      And seriosly, it was first battle of this scale when I’ve seen with people loading mostly without 5-10 minute black screen. Also for me gun/module lag was acceptable most of the battle. IT was in system first, it’s hard for me to believe your lag was wrse than ours.

      Also IT wanted us to not whine about lag “after we loose”… Well, I guess it’s too much to want the same from IT allies. :)

      December 23, 2010 at 1:30 pm Reply
      1. faill

        i don’t know how you get those numbers, but init had of fleet of 70+ arty abadons, and belive me doing 56 jumps in an abadon it’s a pain in the ass(faill fueled briges/standings);
        also we had pos password, we lost bout 3 ppl on the pos cose of the desync/faill typing/stupidity.
        also, this was one of the most laggy battles ever been, some sensation like e-7 in venal few years ago ;P, i only managed to shoot 4 rouns in my artybadon :-(
        funny thing, us chasing a rage bc/hac gang with abadons somhere few jumps before pnq

        December 23, 2010 at 7:03 pm Reply
  10. EX - Atlas Guy

    we will see the biggest thing is that it is vacation for alot of people. and that will change jan 3 or 4th. so we will see.

    December 23, 2010 at 10:45 am Reply
  11. Clowning Around

    Numbers where about 600 vs 950 approx. We bought the wrong fleet for a lag fight (wtf ahac???)
    “goon alpha battleships concept.” makes it sound like goons came up with this? pritty sure IT was trialing this concept before goons started, or I may just be reading the way you posted it wrong….
    At any rate, goon and co had the numbers on the day, we didnt, enjoy your victory

    December 23, 2010 at 11:04 am Reply
    1. Bobbles

      The Battleship Alpha was originally taken from a mix of Evoke and PL, not IT. The PL and Nazi fits though were fucking horrible. We thought they had randomly thrown salvage on their ships and went to war with that.

      So Goons fixed the failfits so they would actually work, and adjusted the fleet to work best with the current drake blob doctrine, and from that you get the Goon’s Battleship Alpha.

      In case you all didn’t understand that, think of it this way. You’ve got Cake. Cake is nice, but pretty plain, and then you’ve got German Chocolate cake. It’s still cake, they’re not claiming they invented the concept of cake, they just made cake 10x better.

      December 23, 2010 at 5:31 pm Reply
  12. Init Footsoldier

    I wasn’t there, but looking at the report I wouldn’t be surprised if the IT numbers were dramatically increased within a couple of days. They looked a little low to me. I think it might serve as a wake-up call. It seems there are usually a fair number of members of any alliance who “assume” “someone will take care of it” and then they don’t show up. Hopefully the Initiative numbers will be higher as well — as they should be — IT helped us out considerably.

    The Goons came to win and got the job done. Great job by them. But this is still the first shot if the goal is to take Fountain and threaten Delve. It’s going to be an interesting couple of months.

    December 23, 2010 at 11:17 am Reply
    1. Benny Hinn

      Your correct mate, but it works both ways. I wouldn’t be surprised if NC numbers dramatically increase within a couple of days.

      December 23, 2010 at 11:24 am Reply
      1. SICKMAN

        I the NC go in 100% In to this Take of IT Space there will be some hard times for the NC — INIT will be fighting SW/-A- so i dunno what IT Alliance will do some Intresting Months ahead:)

        December 23, 2010 at 11:29 am Reply
        1. SICKMAN

          If the NC go in 100% In to Take of IT Alliance Space there will be some hard times for IT Alliance — INIT will be fighting SW/-A- so i dunno what IT Alliance will do… some Intresting Months ahead:)

          Edit ReType:P

          December 23, 2010 at 11:31 am Reply
          1. Jokers Wild ♠

            Now is the time to hit IT from behind btw. Only thing is that IT pets in Catch are still a issue. However if someone does come in to hit the south IT space, you will start to see lots of IT/pets start to take their shinies out to empire.

            December 23, 2010 at 12:04 pm
          2. poastin toaster

            if someone would hit PB right now, sys-k would be knocked out. they really dont have the manpower to defend their own space. it will be interesting to see what happens with INIT/IM/IA.

            the only thing that is certain, is that there will be content for most of null sec in the coming months.

            merry xmas/happy new year!

            December 23, 2010 at 11:25 pm
      2. Question

        indeed NC numbers could increase as Rzr and MM did not have ops posted for pnqy

        December 23, 2010 at 11:49 am Reply
      3. Init Footsoldier

        I think you tend to get more pilots who will come out for the first big offensive than you do for a defensive in a region where the core of the alliance doesn’t really live. I think that’s just human nature and that alliances can sometimes get knocked around for a couple of battles before the numbers get bumped up on the defensive. Of course, if they never get bumped up we know what happens :-)

        December 24, 2010 at 3:27 am Reply
        1. MB

          However far an inconvenient part of home might be, it’s closer than an offensive, and with JB support. Your largest numbers are almost always on defense fleets unless your logistics support, discipline and planning are crazy-good, in which case you get about the same.

          In short, IT took a nap in prime-time. I expect that their alliance size will decrease in the coming months and their fleet sizes will increase as the previously complacent portion of the population divides between people with balls, and people without them.

          December 24, 2010 at 3:51 am Reply
  13. Init Footsoldier

    Regarding Czech’s use of “concept” I think it’s a matter of English being his second language. I think he just meant to convey that the alpha battleships was the Goons battle plan or fleet composition. Guys need to give him a break. He puts a lot into this thing and we can generally get the idea even if the verbiage isn’t always precise for English. Give the guy a break. Most native English speakers probably don’t speak a second language as well as he does English.

    December 23, 2010 at 11:20 am Reply
    1. I-Merc Handset

      totally agree. basically id just say IF YOU DONT LIKE READING IT GTFO the Site. simple, no one paid u to read it so quit complaining

      December 23, 2010 at 12:18 pm Reply
    2. Pirokobo

      Aye; but even more…

      Goonswarm didn’t invent the arty Maelstrom setup, it’s not a hard one to think up because there’s only like three Maelstrom setups that even work.

      What Goonswarm DID that nobody else seems to have done, is give all their members a free Maelstrom for using their learning skillpoint reimbursement to get the necessary skills, and promised people that if we got fifty Maelstroms in a fleet that fleet can oneshot a carrier.

      We now have no problem getting a hundred and fifty Maelstroms in fleet.

      December 23, 2010 at 1:23 pm Reply
      1. Pirokobo

        This is in comparison to Blade, or Talos, or IT itself that showed up a couple times this week with shieldarmortanking Apocs.

        I don’t know what they expected to kill with double tanked sniper ships but they didn’t.

        December 23, 2010 at 1:33 pm Reply
        1. gofuckyourself

          sorry, idk where you got your info from but you’re pretty off with the apocs. the “shield fleets” we use are alpha maels > shield fit pulse apocs > scimi > drake fleets.

          each ship has its own specific role and all are shield tanked

          December 23, 2010 at 6:29 pm Reply
  14. Mascara

    Sir Molle has secretly contracted PL and very soon we’ll see GOONS/NC tears (actually NC misery is already there – they lost over 60 tech moons and several CSAA are scheduled for demolition in the next 24h)

    December 23, 2010 at 12:02 pm Reply
    1. wtffuuuuu

      Actually the orphanage secretly hired PL first to camp jita cause christmas is the only time of year orphans get taken on a trip to see santa.

      December 23, 2010 at 12:06 pm Reply
    2. Blue Man

      lol troll.

      Molle: PL I need your help, help me ill pay.
      PL: lolz you gonna pay dearly, half now and half after the job is done.
      Molle: ok how much
      PL: 800bil, half now half after contract done.
      Molle: Sent 400bil will send rest after contract done ok.
      PL: Remember Y-2 bitch. logoff.
      Molle: Hello? you still there? Hello?

      December 23, 2010 at 12:13 pm Reply
      1. norganor

        Epic 😀

        Future period will be very interesting.

        I am really curious to see will NC stick in fountain or they will return to defend geminate which is attacked by ruskies or retake venal since PL is still holding over 60 tech moons, thats already like 300-400 bil taken so far by PL.

        Will -a- vagon manage to win over Init-NCdot

        Will goons go alone after fountain against IT if their allies fail.

        Happy new interesting year \o

        December 23, 2010 at 12:23 pm Reply
        1. Gerard

          The “NC” isn’t invading fountain, just like Clusterfuck didn’t invade the Russians.

          December 23, 2010 at 4:36 pm Reply
  15. Hmmm

    This just goes to prove how bloated alliances are nowadays, and just full of carebears. Init/Mercs only managed to bring 35!! players is that a joke? its an embarrassment! out of nearly 5000!! IT only managed 160 out of nearly 6000 in prime time!! What the hell is going on. IT are not the old Bob and seems never will be. HUn reloaded brought more than bloody INIT. For that IT should let Init die, as they are and always have been useless. Molle should be angry cos thats just terrible participation, End of IT? possibly with that show up. You cant just rely on supers!

    December 23, 2010 at 12:39 pm Reply
    1. IM guy

      lmfao… Xmas is all I can say to that… Expect this to change :)

      December 23, 2010 at 1:34 pm Reply
      1. x-mas is all you could say to that? Correct me if i’m wrong but BoB/IT took Fountain last year ON christmas. Only difference now is Sir Molle pissed off -a- who was helping them win their space BACK this time last year..

        December 23, 2010 at 11:36 pm Reply
      2. Ray

        Because goons and NC don’t celebrate xmas.

        December 24, 2010 at 5:32 am Reply
      3. BobFromMarketing

        Heh. This is the first Christmas in 5 years we haven’t had a defensive operation scheduled because BoB attacked us when they knew timers would be out on Christmas. Historically they have always used Christmas and other holidays to their poopsocking advantage. Seeing their pilots use it as an excuse is kinda funny. You can say this isn’t BoB all you like and in some ways it isn’t. It’s the entire GBC rolled into one shitty alliance, but it’s still BoB at it’s self delusional heart.

        December 27, 2010 at 1:18 pm Reply
    2. teh

      LOL, INIT actually had 75 in fleet for this leaving from their space, but due to their laughably pathetic logistics, 45 of them got lost before they got there due to so many fuel problems.

      December 23, 2010 at 9:08 pm Reply
      1. poastin toaster

        yeah 75 leaving, only 35 showing up.

        now what where you saying about init in pnq?
        there where 35 there?

        thats what i thought.

        December 23, 2010 at 11:29 pm Reply
  16. sour

    lol poor IT. for all their shittiness i cant say they r not trying their best. too bad IT has chosen allies the likes of init and…err init :P. i mean…17 init and 18 im lol…if i call my lowsec pirate friends we ll be more than that rofl. also looking further into participations (provided the reported numbers r representative) i got to say that only blade apparently is up for a fight. talos seems ready to “depart for greener fields”. as for blast…well lol.

    December 23, 2010 at 12:53 pm Reply
    1. IT Alliance guy

      hahahahahhahahahahahahahha

      December 23, 2010 at 2:17 pm Reply
  17. Sir Molle's FAT wife

    Strange how CCP always show up when IT are losing, fucking fa99ots! IT will failscade now for sure!

    December 23, 2010 at 1:25 pm Reply
    1. gofuckyourself

      looking at the name you used i can tell you haven’t seen a pic of molle’s wife. shes a total milf.

      December 23, 2010 at 6:39 pm Reply
    2. The One Eyed Man

      why so personal?

      Is he that much of a figure in your life you need to make attacks on him and his family?

      Its a game, your leader has given you an idol to hate. You hate the idol because it gives you focus and is the reason your leader told you to hate it. Without the object to hate your coalition would quickly unravel and start to internally fight. You probably did not play the game when bob had horns and made lesser alliances hide in the shadows.

      IT is not bob, they are not in the same league.

      Still if your friends are hating its good for you to hate and if your having fun not really knowing why your hating it, cool bro go all Dixie. I could draw some sad parallel to Nazi propaganda but its only a game and I am not really that arsed.

      December 23, 2010 at 7:13 pm Reply
  18. Sys-k loyal

    Love how most people are talking like this is the end ot IT/Init and company. It one station out of many in the region. We haven’t even talked about trying to take fortress delve. which to date hasnt been done in bob/it possesion. *disbandment doesnt count.

    There are many long battles to be had. It is a good win by Goons, but lets face it they needed half of eve to do it before with the sov drop, what will it take with sov?

    December 23, 2010 at 1:35 pm Reply
    1. RPG

      Disband doesn’t count? What game are you playing?

      December 23, 2010 at 3:46 pm Reply
      1. SICKMAN

        Same goas for GoonSwarm no one could braek Delve with them there just shit happens and things get lost its eve it happens an dit happens alot in Delve:P

        December 23, 2010 at 6:26 pm Reply
    2. Fort Delve was pre-dominion. It will be interesting to say the least how POST-dominion will take it’s toll. It taught Goon a valuable lesson when they had Delve this time last year, I bet they won’t make that mistake twice. As for BoB/IT they’re stuck in their past, AHACS vs alpha fleet really? I’m just glad they got Init. as allies now and not -a-

      December 23, 2010 at 11:47 pm Reply
      1. sour

        “I’m just glad they got Init. as allies now and not -a-”

        lawl, and it worked so well for IT 😛

        December 24, 2010 at 12:22 pm Reply
  19. Bitter Vet

    I dont believe for one second this is the end of IT. I can understand the apathy of IT members when the pets whose space they are defending bring less than 3% of their members. Then theres Init !!! With friends like that, who needs enemies! Let Init burn, lets fountain be cleansed, and replace those useless pets with someone more useful… like a pet hamster, or even a chocolate tea pot.

    December 23, 2010 at 1:47 pm Reply
    1. LOLWUT

      its so wonderful when highsec macrominers are commenting shits they will understand, the only thing should get purged is EVENews…

      December 23, 2010 at 2:19 pm Reply
  20. TEST

    You forgot to mention the return of everyone’s favourite Ragnarok pilot.

    December 23, 2010 at 2:13 pm Reply
    1. TEST

      Also, sadly we couldn’t christen it with an Erebus kill :(

      December 23, 2010 at 2:23 pm Reply
    2. Infinimo

      TEST bros best bros <3

      December 23, 2010 at 5:07 pm Reply
  21. IT Alliance guy

    goons wont hold this system for long

    December 23, 2010 at 2:24 pm Reply
    1. bozo

      Most uf us werent there cos we work and arent schoolkids on christmas holidays.
      Heres to many good fights to come.

      December 23, 2010 at 2:54 pm Reply
      1. lol

        That is why you guys counter attacked last night, right? Cry more about getting beat. You guys made some poor calls/couldn’t get enough people and lost.

        December 23, 2010 at 5:41 pm Reply
        1. bozo

          no crying, I’m actually glad you have come.

          December 23, 2010 at 6:58 pm Reply
        2. The One Eyed Man

          Just resubbed my main and applied to an IT corp. If I get accepted (this is doubtful seeing as I have always fought against them previously) I really will be looking forward to legally abusing children on the battlefield in a nyx.

          December 23, 2010 at 9:19 pm Reply
          1. derrr

            Sounds like someone is still mad after getting recruitment scammed by a goon.

            December 24, 2010 at 2:21 am
          2. The One Eyed Man

            lol you should be on stage – can you bounce a ball on you nose?

            December 24, 2010 at 9:07 am
  22. Hun

    Next time know the right numbers.
    This numbers was when the battle started
    http://vidin.hu/eve/rax/?a=kill_related&kll_id=40600

    December 23, 2010 at 2:49 pm Reply
  23. monkey guy

    lag was ok with proper settings. took me maybe about 1 min to lock sth and maybe another one to get the guns start shooting. was way worse if you had bad overview settings and showed brackets and shit.

    December 23, 2010 at 2:55 pm Reply
  24. Profit

    TBH IT losing Fountain might be a blessing in disguise for them, they get to purge the cearbear pet alliances, and take the actual pvper’s for themselves. They lose a region fine, but they get to go back to delve, and reinforce the only region they truly care about. And when the dust settles they won’t have to go far for fights, ZXB – Y-2.

    So as much i as i have a distaste for IT, to say it’s the end for them is just ignorant.

    December 23, 2010 at 3:15 pm Reply
  25. Alooh

    Mord Fiddle has his posting up on the fight at http://fiddlersedge.blogspot.com/2010/12/pqny-when-legends-fall.html

    December 23, 2010 at 3:53 pm Reply
    1. Bugaga

      According to this source ‘the IT Alliance allies had not been provided the POS password and many lost their ships just outside the POS shields’.
      As far as I remember, it is not the first time, when allies were not allowed to go to the POS, or am I wrong?
      What a nice ally IT Alliance.

      December 23, 2010 at 4:59 pm Reply
      1. 1nsan1ty

        I can tell you straight away that all INIT/IM had passwords, and I am sure that people outside the pos died either to lag, or their own fault .. Other Fountain residents should ve had their own towers ?

        December 23, 2010 at 5:43 pm Reply
  26. Fountainer

    I have no doubt that GOONS and pets will take several systems in the next say 2 weeks.
    But nobody here seriously believes that after the holiday season etc. is over they will be able to hold that space/take all of fountain with angry IT and residents next door.

    December 23, 2010 at 4:46 pm Reply
    1. Sir Molle's FAT wife

      “But nobody here seriously believes that after the holiday season etc. is over they will be able to hold that space/take all of fountain with angry IT and residents next door.”

      Prepare to eat your words!

      December 23, 2010 at 5:50 pm Reply
      1. gofuckyourself

        im still waiting for mittens to eat his hat…

        December 23, 2010 at 6:46 pm Reply
    2. sour

      “[…] that space/take all of fountain with angry IT and residents next door.”

      yeah…lol…especially those angry fountain residents r totally gonna be “terror in the system” rofl

      December 23, 2010 at 6:22 pm Reply
    3. poastin toaster

      10 systems have already been taken. this theory of yours needs to be updated. have a link, it might help you out some with your intel.

      http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Fountain#sov

      December 24, 2010 at 12:56 am Reply
    4. Ray

      IT will defeat goons during US tz prime.
      Nice story.

      December 24, 2010 at 5:28 am Reply
  27. imaspy

    Banner should read NC/goons hit………… oh yea and the testies. Oh and the banner is not big enough. Needs to be more ostentatious and nob slobbering. I would have expected more from the propaganda wing.

    But they did their job. Collectively outnumbered IT and co. I don’t see it going as well, however, in the weeks ahead.

    Looking forward to the next banner that will be buried somewhere in the sports section when IT prevails.

    December 23, 2010 at 7:02 pm Reply
    1. Red5x5

      You sir do not know EVE. being outnumbered in this game really does not mean that much as people think it does. The main thing is IT brought the wrong ship for a lag fight. They did not drop any capital being scared to, with 200+ maelstroms they would of easily died. There was a point over com’s in which we started picking off all there FC’s and when a new one popped up he would be quickly die. The propaganda? Just a headline. Their are many alliance’s who out preform the general mindset that not having the numbers means you die out. I beg to difer. As much as PL did up in the north i give them a lot of props for doing what they do.

      December 23, 2010 at 8:46 pm Reply
  28. Ur235

    Thing is though Bob/IT have fought for everything they achieved, Goonies and co havent really fought for anything its all een given to them

    They werent given Wicked Creek and all those other regions it was given to them because RA toleratred them, they didnt fight for Delve it was given to them via exploitive mean, if they had not disbanded BoB they would prob still hold Delve even now.
    Deklien they havent fought for it its been given to them by the NC after TCF failed. All of the other members of the so called Deklien coalition havent fought for their space its all been given to them by NC after they lost their space in other areas. A coalition of loosers that has never fought for a damn thing has no chance against IT

    Now Bob/IT on the other hand, they fought for delve and kept it theres for many years no one else was involved, They fought for Fountain against PL and co it wasnt given to them, fare enough they didnt fight for Delve, Goonies cocked up but at least BoB/IT didnt exploit it

    December 23, 2010 at 7:15 pm Reply
    1. The cold hard penis of truth (TEST)

      cry more.

      December 23, 2010 at 8:05 pm Reply
    2. Ray

      IT got what they have now because of AAA/SW/ROL – who they now stabbed in the back.
      Learn your fucking history.

      December 24, 2010 at 5:27 am Reply
  29. IT Hung

    Here is the thing, we don’t care about fucking Fountian anymore it’s such a pain in the fucking ass trying to defend it forever and keep the damn good for nothing Renters safe. The sooner it’s abandoned by the better. But if Goons, TEST and pals think they are going to setup shop there they are dead wrong. To us it’s going to become a nice buffer zone, no man’s land. Many great fights will happen there in the future, but no one will own it.

    Sys Chaos is also going to have to start getting off fat asses or else…

    December 23, 2010 at 8:06 pm Reply
    1. teh

      didn’t want it anyway (TM)

      December 24, 2010 at 2:00 am Reply
  30. IT Soldier

    Goons stole our Shield Maelstrom Fit after we destroyed them with it in C3N. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar or an complete idiot or both.

    Now when will this site report of the many SBU’s and TCU’s we have killed in Fountain since PNQ was taken? 9-V SBU destoried, YVBE-E TCU gone, E-BWUU SBU also space dust. If Goons thinks one fight with most of our pilots on holiday is the end of this fight they are crazy. Most of our people are still moving back from Catch and so are our caps. Who ever is reporting that we had 10 Titans in systems is crazy. We had no were near that many, if we did we would of used them. Most of the Caps were Carriers from what I saw.

    December 23, 2010 at 8:16 pm Reply
    1. tow Bogdan

      The funny thing is, you retard, that we used Alphafleet in C3N battle too (both Goons and TEST).

      Also the sov structures you killed in Fountain so far had no strategical meaning. Your command didn’t have guts to even try taking PNQY back when our TCU was onlining. You killed a few undefended SBU’s/TCU’s – great victory!

      And in PNQY I’ve seen at least 7 titans in your POS’s and many supercarriers. You’re that stupid/have no clue what was going on or you just like talking bullshit in public?

      December 23, 2010 at 8:29 pm Reply
      1. IT Soldier

        http://www.killboard.it/?a=kill_related&kll_id=228677

        So I was mistaken, you did try to use the Mael fit but if you also look at the fight. We had more Carriers/Sups then you had Maelstroms. If you think the PNQ fight was anything close to what we can field if our members weren’t on holiday your crazy. You have until the New Year to take Fountain. Good luck with that.

        December 23, 2010 at 9:04 pm Reply
        1. tinny120

          Your right dude half of IT is on holliday / Moving to fountan i just cant wait for the fight when we take PNQ back in a week or 2

          December 23, 2010 at 10:32 pm Reply
          1. poastin toaster

            yes, i did not move my stuff (NO YOU CANT HAVE IT) from catch to delkin in one day after our suicide op and was in fountain the next.
            you, IT and pets, knew that PNQ was under attack for 2 reinforcement timers and knew when it was coming out. stop using the “people havent moved stuff yet” excuse. you really should start to look at your “online/offline” list in corp and start to kick all of your non attendees for “REDPEN OPS” since thats the way you roll.

            btw, i do have a full time job and attend classes at night. so i do have a life outside of eve. thats why my posting sucks.

            December 23, 2010 at 11:40 pm
          2. Ray

            Take PNQ back? Ahahahahahaha
            Dude seriously, are you new to this game or what? BoB was never able to beat goons in their prime. IT got defeated during EU prime and how the hell do you imagine taking anything from goons during US tz prime???

            Wake up Neo! Matrix has you.

            December 24, 2010 at 5:24 am
          3. NC ftw

            It’s funny that only IT are on Xmas holiday…the rest of the alliances are not celebrating Xmas… huh any better excuse u can come up with?

            December 25, 2010 at 3:22 pm
    2. NC ftw

      U mad bro?

      December 25, 2010 at 3:18 pm Reply
  31. humm

    in yo face IT scum!

    December 23, 2010 at 9:16 pm Reply
    1. The One Eyed Man

      would warm milk and cookies help?

      You seem a little preoccupied you can get cream for nappy rash you don’t have to suffer in silence.

      December 23, 2010 at 10:43 pm Reply
  32. Tactics

    Wow I couldnt believe after all IT has done for Init they sent 35 Guys.

    When I was on the field I thought there was less even.

    Isnt this Inits primetime?

    It reminds me of when Leonidas would get calls for help from Alli`s he would send 1 Solider :)

    December 23, 2010 at 11:03 pm Reply
    1. And just think, IT disowned -a- and helped Init. (along with a dozen other alliances) take their space for similar reasons: they felt -a- didn’t help enough getting BoB’s old space back. I bet Sir Molle is thinking, “at least -a- sent more then 30 ships to our aid…….” IT may not be done but Init. sealed their fate, good luck finding prime systems in empire space Init. :)

      December 24, 2010 at 12:16 am Reply
  33. found this a while ago.. IT is BOB right?

    December 23, 2010 at 11:39 pm Reply
    1. poastin toaster

      IT was Kenny which was BoB and they are still fail.

      December 23, 2010 at 11:42 pm Reply
    2. Red5x5
      December 23, 2010 at 11:46 pm Reply
  34. Ray

    5k men alliance fielded 150?
    rofl
    just
    rofl!

    December 24, 2010 at 12:04 am Reply
  35. notti

    LOL! IT fanboys!! What were you saying about being able to defend both fronts against hotile fleets? ::SMUG::

    Didn’t want that system anyway, did you?

    December 24, 2010 at 12:18 am Reply
  36. maxi

    Battle overview:
    IT+co:
    Initiative Mercenaries 18
    The Initiative. 17

    AHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHHAHHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHAAAHHHHHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHA

    Molle – after weeks of devotion to THE Innitiative thats what Sister Bliss sent you to help in their _PRIME EURO ZONE_ ????????

    AHAHHAahhahahahahahahhahhaaAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

    December 24, 2010 at 3:57 am Reply
    1. Ray

      Molle was always very wise at choosing allies.

      December 24, 2010 at 5:20 am Reply
    2. Deals are Big

      Since Init is still heavily involved in fighting Stainwagon I doubt IT’s that worried about their participation in Fountain, everyone has their task to focus on after all.

      December 27, 2010 at 8:53 pm Reply
  37. throbbing IT member

    I’m not sure but it grunt seems a bit mad thb. Yes many where with family as its Xmas . So what? We lost a huge battle so what? We’ll touch them in the naughty places after turke/duck/ salted lamb or sheeps head …whatever . Gf and happy holiday .

    December 24, 2010 at 6:53 am Reply
  38. BoBit teh butthurt

    So now it looks like aaa and company will take back catch which is rightfully their space as from what I have known of it aaa hc over the years once they stand firmly on their feet again who is to say they won’t have a bone to pick with BoBit….Cause we all know a/stainwagon will roll right thru init which is a useless alliance that leeched off BoBit hope you enjoy the loyality of them because BoBit has always treated those who stood in battle with them honourably amirite?

    December 24, 2010 at 8:51 am Reply
    1. IM Joe

      We are very scared you have done well for yourselves so far

      December 24, 2010 at 12:29 pm Reply
  39. Hey Goon, drop the south and go after PL at your doorstep. Molle can wait.

    December 24, 2010 at 5:25 pm Reply
  40. o/

    Old news but numbers where terrible cause no one bother to explain to the membership that we where redeployed, thus half of the alliance was still scrambling to get shit together in GE when this went down. So laughing about 150 members in 5000 man alliance is retarded when the active part of the alliance is still deployed elsewhere.

    anyway why are you guys blue balling us? seriously we had a fleet operating for 6 hours today, running into early USATZ and you guys didn’t show up.

    Give me kill mails damn fuckers.

    Merry X mass and i want to do you in the rear so stop squirming.

    December 29, 2010 at 3:06 am Reply
  41. In_the_field

    i dont know if any of you have ever actually done combat in a real 1000+ fleet fight but u wouldnt talk smack so easy if you had. the effect of the lag disconnects the client/server sync so bad that you can look like you are warping and arriving at your destination while, to the server, you havent even aligned yet. the idea that people might enter POS passwords that havent authenticated due to server response time.
    insult the leaders and big picture decisions all ya like but honor the soldier in the field dealing with all of this and just trying to survive.

    December 29, 2010 at 4:57 pm Reply
  42. group your guns noob

    pltitanslol

    December 31, 2010 at 1:47 am Reply

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